Euro 2016 - The Football Thread
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Kalinic goal set up by Perisc and Returned the favour for Perisic to win it.0
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England love to make it difficult for themselves.
Just one goal last night would've made all the difference.0 -
Croatia were available at 33-1 before tonight, now they are all the way down to 8-10
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The cherry on top of this tomorrow would be:
Sweden beating Belgium.
Ireland beating Italy.
Hungary beating Portugal.0 -
Basically Hodgson has fucked up massively. If he hadn't have dicked around with the side we would be in Wales position now.
Instead we will go out in the next round to Portugal (you just know that's who we will get).
This will define Hodgsons career.3 -
I'm glad we are in the tough half of the draw, if you wanna be the best you have to beat the best. Hodgson has been moaning about the 3 teams that played England all parked the bus for 90 minutes, well these lot wont so time to prove yourself Woy.0
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You are all aware we won't have to play ALL of those teams? After a likely meeting with France it's Spain, Italy OR Germany! Doesn't feel so bad knowing two of them will have been eliminated for us. If we beat Hungary/Iceland/Portugal then France. Or Northern Ireland, lol2
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I keep reading this, but what make you so sure the team that started vs Wales would've won yesterday?DamoNorthStand said:Basically Hodgson has fucked up massively. If he hadn't have dicked around with the side we would be in Wales position now.
Most of the players he brought in played no better or worse than then ones they replaced had done in the first two games. Everyone wanted Sturridge and Vardy after Wales. Clyne was good. Henderson and Bertrand weren't amazing, but Alli and Rose have hardly been tearing the tournament a new one. The only one was Wilshire was not nearly as good as Rooney had been.
Perversely, I think this draw helps England. Next game aside, teams will come at them more and allow us to play more on the counter attack. The worry is the defence won't be good enough when properly tested.
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The defence has looked surprisingly solid so far. If Cahill gets banned or injured though that's a different story.0
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I think we will get Hungary next round.0
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I think so too. I expect Portugal to beat them so they finish second.ValleyGary said:I think we will get Hungary next round.
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So to win the Euros for the first time we just need to beat Iceland then Northern Ireland, then Slovakia and Wales in the final? Right?2
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Well Roy did say he wanted hungry playersValleyGary said:I think we will get Hungary next round.
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Dedication's what you need.Nicholas said:I'm glad we are in the tough half of the draw, if you wanna be the best you have to beat the best. Hodgson has been moaning about the 3 teams that played England all parked the bus for 90 minutes, well these lot wont so time to prove yourself Woy.
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DamoNorthStand said:
Basically Hodgson has fucked up massively. If he hadn't have dicked around with the side we would be in Wales position now.
Instead we will go out in the next round to Portugal (you just know that's who we will get).
This will define Hodgsons career.
Not sure how he fucked up massively. To be honest Kane and Sterling were pretty poor in the first 2 games (Sterling was worse than poor), and pretty much everyone was crying out for Vardy and Sturridge to start. They did, and yet we still didn't score. I'd say Wilshere in for Rooney was his only mistake. However, there's nothing to suggest we'd have won if Hodgson hadn't made the 6 changes. Let's remember that side failed to beat an absolutely awful Russian team.
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Firstly - a massive well done to Northern Ireland. You have to feel for Italy. They have won their group and now face Italy, then probably Germany, then France or England before they can reach the final!
As for Hodgson. Everybody who was critical of his decision to make six changes before the match are perfectly entitled to be angry with him now! But we are still in it and we have to get behind a team that I believe is as good as any in this tournament. Let's deal with Hodgson after the tournament - He needs a semi final at least to avoid the flack but that is for another day!1 -
Wow Italy v Italty?! That will be a belter of a game.MuttleyCAFC said:Firstly - a massive well done to Northern Ireland. You have to feel for Italy. They have won their group and now face Italy, then probably Germany, then France or England before they can reach the final!
As for Hodgson. Everybody who was critical of his decision to make six changes before the match are perfectly entitled to be angry with him now! But we are still in it and we have to get behind a team that I believe is as good as any in this tournament. Let's deal with Hodgson after the tournament - He needs a semi final at least to avoid the flack but that is for another day!8 -
1986 (Mexico) was the sameCallumcafc said:As far as I'm aware this is how every 24 team tournament has been done since at least as far back as the World Cup in 1990.
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England will have to do something 3 times which they have NEVER achieved in their history...
Beat a top tier nation, on foreign soil, in the knockout rounds.
Still at least after street wise Russia, Wales and Slovakia all nearly put a stop to us we cam play naive, free-flowing Portugal, France etc.
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excuse my error - actually Italy v Italy would be a incredibly boring 0-00
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I need Iceland to beat Austria and Portugal v Hungary to end in a draw (or Portugal to win by a smaller margin than Iceland do). Got Iceland as group winners. Gutted that Hungary equalised against them.0
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I think they missed their chance with that equaliser, although they will get through with a draw and I hope they get it.0
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My worry is our defence has not been tested properly and I still see Smalling as not good enough against class opposition0
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Our defence is not the best, but all the teams have strengths and weaknesses.0
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Have you seen Portugal so far?Daddy_Pig said:England will have to do something 3 times which they have NEVER achieved in their history...
Beat a top tier nation, on foreign soil, in the knockout rounds.
Still at least after street wise Russia, Wales and Slovakia all nearly put a stop to us we cam play naive, free-flowing Portugal, France etc.0 -
Just out of curiosity what classes a Nation as "Top Tier"Daddy_Pig said:England will have to do something 3 times which they have NEVER achieved in their history...
Beat a top tier nation, on foreign soil, in the knockout rounds.
Still at least after street wise Russia, Wales and Slovakia all nearly put a stop to us we cam play naive, free-flowing Portugal, France etc.
Reason I ask is because only Germany / Spain / Portugal are above us in the World Rankings in our half of the draw.0 -
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Just out of curiosity what classes a Nation as "Top Tier"Daddy_Pig said:England will have to do something 3 times which they have NEVER achieved in their history...
Beat a top tier nation, on foreign soil, in the knockout rounds.
Still at least after street wise Russia, Wales and Slovakia all nearly put a stop to us we cam play naive, free-flowing Portugal, France etc.
Reason I ask is because only Germany / Spain / Portugal are above us in the World Rankings in our half of the draw.
And as we all know the rankings are an absolute farce.
Belgium the best team in Europe?
Portugal ranked 8th?
Austria 10th?
Holland better than France?
All of the above and Northern Ireland ranked better than Croatia?1 -
No clear definition just general consensus.ForeverAddickted said:
Just out of curiosity what classes a Nation as "Top Tier"Daddy_Pig said:England will have to do something 3 times which they have NEVER achieved in their history...
Beat a top tier nation, on foreign soil, in the knockout rounds.
Still at least after street wise Russia, Wales and Slovakia all nearly put a stop to us we cam play naive, free-flowing Portugal, France etc.
Reason I ask is because only Germany / Spain / Portugal are above us in the World Rankings in our half of the draw.
England have beaten Denmark (former Euro champs) and Belgium (highest ranked team in Europe) in knockouts but you wouldn't say either are top level and they certainly weren't when England beat them.
England have never gone to a tournament and beaten a team in the bracket that France, Italy, Spain and Germany would fill today.
Maybe this will be the year but likely having to come through 2 of those teams is a big ask.
In other words englands likely route to the final is...
vs massive underdogs
vs the hosts and 2006 world cup finalists
vs current world cup holders or
Double European cup holders and world cup 2010 winners or
The team that dumps both of those out and was 2006 world cup winners and 2012 finalists
The bigger sides in the other half of the draw just don't compare.
Croatia were 3rd in 98 and haven't made a semi final since.
Belgium have 1 world cup quarter final in 30 years (at least).
If the odds are correct then Portugal will be in that half and they have semi finals and 1 final on home turf.
If England make the final then noone can say they don't deserve it but England will need to find their finest form and just a bit more than the spirit of 66 to navigate this half.2 -
you think that is bad - have you seen our draw for the muddy puddle jumping championships?
Oink.3
