Cameron resigns
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Boris is such a slimy, two-faced opportunist.MuttleyCAFC said:Boris was one of the most pro europeans in the Conservative party until recently, I think people assume he will be leader but if the choice is between Brexiters, I think Gove may have a shout. Some people in the Conservative party will Love Johnson, some will not forgive him!
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Not if Corbyn is still in charge!Rizzo said:
If Gove gets the job he may just be even more unelectable than Milliband was!MuttleyCAFC said:Boris was one of the most pro europeans in the Conservative party until recently, I think people assume he will be leader but if the choice is between Brexiters, I think Gove may have a shout. Some people in the Conservative party will Love Johnson, some will not forgive him!
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Corbyn's problem is not that he's unelectable - he was elected leader of his party with a sizeable share of the vote (nearly 60% and more than 3 times the votes for his nearest rival). His problem is that the parliamentary party he's leader of does not reflect or support his values. Until that changes, Labour will just be Tories in red ties.MuttleyCAFC said:
Not if Corbyn is still in charge!Rizzo said:
If Gove gets the job he may just be even more unelectable than Milliband was!MuttleyCAFC said:Boris was one of the most pro europeans in the Conservative party until recently, I think people assume he will be leader but if the choice is between Brexiters, I think Gove may have a shout. Some people in the Conservative party will Love Johnson, some will not forgive him!
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So hopefully ozzy will be next
Cameron will go down as a failure
Still Blair has the report out soon and his arse will be toast
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Has Pinocchio resigned yet?0
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He had to go, it was his mistake in calling the referendum that has given him the wrong vote as he sees it.0
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Resigns? Didn't know he played for us in the first place....0
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You're not getting rid of him that easilyBedsaddick said:He was right to resign but so should Corbyn for his pathetic remain campaign. ( and I'm a labour supporter)
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Fingers crossedmistrollingin said:Has Pinocchio resigned yet?
Trouble is Dave was only a prime minister this lady ain't for turning
Oops wrong pm!0 -
time for a general election .. 4 out of 5 MPs of all parties were in favour of IN .. how can they be trusted to carry out the wish of the OUTERS ? .. also ..
Scotland was the region most in favour of Cameron's IN view, yet there are a miniscule number of tory voters in Scotland ..
the Welsh '1st minister' says what a disaster the OUT vote is, yet the Welsh voted OUT OUT OUT ..
and while we are at it, reform the house of snoring lazy old feckers, a k a the 'lords' and have a referendum on the basis that when the queen dies, the notion of 'monarchy and 'aristocracy' die along with her...
Bizarre times people, time for WHOLESALE changes while there is a mood for it2 - Sponsored links:
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About the only saving grace is that the referendum campaign has probably done for Osborne's chances.2
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I'm sure that's what you meant to say, you just type the wrong wordsSalad said:
Boris is such aMuttleyCAFC said:Boris was one of the most pro europeans in the Conservative party until recently, I think people assume he will be leader but if the choice is between Brexiters, I think Gove may have a shout. Some people in the Conservative party will Love Johnson, some will not forgive him!
slimy, two-faced opportunistshrewd politician.
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But what about Alan Johnson who was leading the 'Labour In' campaign - why no finger pointing at him...?Bedsaddick said:He was right to resign but so should Corbyn for his pathetic remain campaign. ( and I'm a labour supporter)
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Time for Allardyce to steady the ship...3
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He isn't the leader of The Labour Party last time I checked.micks1950 said:
But what about Alan Johnson who was leading the 'Labour In' campaign - why no finger pointing at him...?Bedsaddick said:He was right to resign but so should Corbyn for his pathetic remain campaign. ( and I'm a labour supporter)
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And of course he isn't - but it does raise the question of why there's been no spotlight on Johnson who supposedly led the 'Labour In' campaign....?Bedsaddick said:
He isn't the leader of The Labour Party last time I checked.micks1950 said:
But what about Alan Johnson who was leading the 'Labour In' campaign - why no finger pointing at him...?Bedsaddick said:He was right to resign but so should Corbyn for his pathetic remain campaign. ( and I'm a labour supporter)
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Farage defect to conservatives and him make a bid for prime minister. This is his vision remember and conservative are just about right wing enough to be able to handle him2
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Do you not need to be an elected member of parliament to become PM?Greenie Junior said:I wouldn't be surprised to see Farage defect to conservatives and him make a bid for prime minister. This is his vision remember and conservative are just about right wing enough to be able to handle him
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The Tories will call a general election in the autumn, in my opinion, reversing their own 2010 legislation to do it, and especially if Jeremy Corbyn is still Labour leader. Corbyn is not a leader and the party would get hammered, so whether or not the membership like it the parliamentary party have a duty to challenge him now. Labour needs to give the Tories pause for thought over calling an election by electing a different leader who can credibly say that he would take forward Brexit negotiations. It's a tall order, but not impossible. The country doesn't need or want a general election but the Tories will have one for party advantage if they can.12
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Margaret Hodge one of the two Labour MPs who have submitted a vote of no confidence in Corbyn - apparently for failing to convince voters to back Remain - would seem to have little sense of irony (or perhaps shame).
Hodge is the MP for Barking - part of the borough of Barking and Dagenham which voted 62.4% to Leave the EU......0 -
I thought they were elected by politicians.RedPanda said:
This rankles me. Leavers bleat on about unelected politicians – what about the House of Lords?Callumcafc said:0 -
Labour need to get rid of Corbyn now. They don't have too many with the right persona - Umanna definitely has it - he decided not to stand as leader originally, but his country needs him now.1
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I think this has demonstrated how out of touch the likes of Abbott and Corbyn are from the real labour support. The best thing they could do would be to reevaluate their values and really look at what their supporters want.. And that's not Corbyn.1
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So the answer to winning back disaffected Labour voters in the North-East, Midlands and Wales who voted 'Leave', is to replace Corbyn (who described his support for remaining in the EU as about "seven, or seven and a half" out of 10) with a London-based playboy (who famously complained about the lack of “decent” clubs in the capital as they were "full of trash and C-list wannabes") and would seem to support the EU '10 out of 10'......?MuttleyCAFC said:Labour need to get rid of Corbyn now. They don't have too many with the right persona - Umanna definitely has it - he decided not to stand as leader originally, but his country needs him now.
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Out of the frying pan, into the fire0
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I'm no labour supporter but they are becoming more and more irrelevant both as an opposition and as a potential party of power.
Good thing some of you may say but the vacuum leaves the Tories free reign to do what they like and in-fight why Rome burns.
Effective democracy needs effective opposition.
Alan Johnston or Dan Javis could attract popular support in the country (from traditional labour and non-traditional labour supporters) and maybe from MPs but not from the party membership hence why they have Corbyn instead.3 -
Bye, Dave. Thanks for all the good times.
Your friends at the Heythrop will look forward to seeing you again in the autumn. Tally Ho.0
