Botaka

cafcnick1992 said:

blackpool72 said:

On today's performance botoka over lookman I'm afraid.
And just to keep my old mate dick Lukes happy ,fox did ok

Not that you've taken a short term view or anything.

Jesus Christ

Explain

He needs to start. Either in a 4-2-3-1 with Holmes, Lookman and Botaka as the three, or on the right if we're sticking with the 4-4-2 with Holmes on the left and Lookman upfront with Magennis.

I also thought fox had a good game. Possibly allied to the fact he had Holmes in front of him rather than lookman.

I think lookman is best in the hole.

Makes the stick this fella got on here after his first appearance pretty embarrassing.

He's not as good as 'we' all think. Typical 'flair' winger. Will do the lob over the head trick like today, buy will also fuck up 10 times in comparison.
If we are pinning our hopes to him, we're in a worse stayed than I thought

Lookman is still our most threatening player by far, but is young and shouldn't be overplayed. He's played a lot of games recently (including England youth internationals), and looks like he could do with a rest. I'd be interested to see what Botaka can do if given a start.

I thought Lookman looked very lightweight; he offered very little going forward and seemed prone to losing the ball. Defensively, he didn't look reliable.
Botaka coming on was a breath of fresh air, as he looked so much more solid, like he wouldn't get bullied off the ball so easily. I don't think he's magnificent, but I think it was the right substitution for that game.

Haven't seen either of them play enough to say categorically where/if they should play.

I'd play both Botaka and Lookman. Lookman should be playing down teh middle feeding of Magennis. A no brainer really!

Maybe there an appearance clause which would cost a lost of money if we play him more than 20 minutes in a game?

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Gillis said:

Lookman is still our most threatening player by far, but is young and shouldn't be overplayed. He's played a lot of games recently (including England youth internationals), and looks like he could do with a rest. I'd be interested to see what Botaka can do if given a start.

Agree with this. If i was Slade i'd be giving Lookman the cup games with Scunthorpe and Colchester off and telling him to go and have a week to 10 days holiday somewhere. And when he comes back i'd tell him he's not taking corners any more.

I'd go the opposite way and use the Scunthorpe game as a free hit. Get Lookman playing is as far as an advanced role as possible. Although he probably won't play as we wouldn't want him cup tied.

Slade should be using this game to get the shackles off and play as expansively as possible without worrying about the result. Crofts is the bloke who needs to go on holiday and be replaced with one of the younger midfielders - @Clem_Snide was right on Saturday - take a punt on a kid in midfield.

ricky_otto said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Gillis said:

Lookman is still our most threatening player by far, but is young and shouldn't be overplayed. He's played a lot of games recently (including England youth internationals), and looks like he could do with a rest. I'd be interested to see what Botaka can do if given a start.

Agree with this. If i was Slade i'd be giving Lookman the cup games with Scunthorpe and Colchester off and telling him to go and have a week to 10 days holiday somewhere. And when he comes back i'd tell him he's not taking corners any more.

I'd go the opposite way and use the Scunthorpe game as a free hit. Get Lookman playing is as far as an advanced role as possible. Although he probably won't play as we wouldn't want him cup tied.

Slade should be using this game to get the shackles off and play as expansively as possible without worrying about the result. Crofts is the bloke who needs to go on holiday and be replaced with one of the younger midfielders - @Clem_Snide was right on Saturday - take a punt on a kid in midfield.

Not sure there is anybody who is ready to be honest. We need to hang on until January and get as many points as we can muster. The problem for me is that the club had a long time to sort out the midfield in the summer and didn't. Why should we expect them to in January, when it is generally harder?

cafcnick1992 said:

blackpool72 said:

On today's performance botoka over lookman I'm afraid.
And just to keep my old mate dick Lukes happy ,fox did ok

Not that you've taken a short term view or anything.

Jesus Christ

Couldnt help but read in this voice

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

ricky_otto said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Gillis said:

Lookman is still our most threatening player by far, but is young and shouldn't be overplayed. He's played a lot of games recently (including England youth internationals), and looks like he could do with a rest. I'd be interested to see what Botaka can do if given a start.

Agree with this. If i was Slade i'd be giving Lookman the cup games with Scunthorpe and Colchester off and telling him to go and have a week to 10 days holiday somewhere. And when he comes back i'd tell him he's not taking corners any more.

I'd go the opposite way and use the Scunthorpe game as a free hit. Get Lookman playing is as far as an advanced role as possible. Although he probably won't play as we wouldn't want him cup tied.

Slade should be using this game to get the shackles off and play as expansively as possible without worrying about the result. Crofts is the bloke who needs to go on holiday and be replaced with one of the younger midfielders - @Clem_Snide was right on Saturday - take a punt on a kid in midfield.

Not sure there is anybody who is ready to be honest. We need to hang on until January and get as many points as we can muster. The problem for me is that the club had a long time to sort out the midfield in the summer and didn't. Why should we expect them to in January, when it is generally harder?

If we're at least in with a shout of the play offs then surely it shouldn't be too hard to get a midfielder in on loan who's out of favour at a bottom 6 premier league side or top half championship side. It must be easier in Jan than August as in the summer players will always have hopes of forcing their way into the side. By Jan they'll know whether that is/isn't possible.

With this league, virtually every team has a chance of the playoffs...or relegation! We're 4 points off both, 2 of those 1-1 draws converted into wins and we'd be 5th

To me Lookman isn't comfortable playing wide in a 442. He naturally wants to cut inside, and doesn't give enough support to the full back.

Says a lot about Slade that Botaka hasn't started a game yet. Always looks a threat when he comes on.