The General Election - June 8th 2017

cafcnick1992 said:

Who does Labour represent?

As far as i can tell, it's champagne socialists who work in the city and students who have yet to have a job.

Nobody outside the cities vote for them.

"In 2015, 53.8 per cent of the UK population (around 35 million) lived in cities.

The four biggest cities (London, Birmingham, Manchester and Glasgow) accounted for almost a quarter of the total UK population (24.3 per cent) and 45 per cent of the total population living in cities.

London alone was home to 15.2 per cent of the UK population and accounted for 28.1 per cent of the population living in cities".

http://www.centreforcities.org/reader/cities-outlook-2017/city-monitor-latest-data/

That's an awful lot of "champagne socialists" and "students"?

Corbyn must be delighted with Blair's announcement today as reported on The World at One.

Although he has previously ruled out standing for Parliament again after an absence of 10 years, Mr Blair said:
"I look at the British political scene at the moment and I actually almost feel motivated to go right back into it," he added. "We're just allowing ourselves to be hijacked by what is actually quite a small group of people with a strong ideology."

Mr Blair stepped down from frontline politics in 2007 but has become more politically active in recent months, setting up a think tank in London to make the case for the centre ground and for continued EU membership.

He told the BBC that the opinion polls suggested Prime Minister Theresa May's Conservatives were on course for a landslide victory and he "wasn't totally sure" what Labour's position was on Brexit.

He described Theresa May as "very sensible" and "a perfectly decent person" but said her policy on leaving the EU was "not reasonable" and that it was driven by the right wing of her party.

What did he say...I cant see it on the website?

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

What's the score with Farron skirting round the gay sex issue then? Not very liberal, and with him wanting to re do the referendum, he don't seem very democratic either (In the words of David Wooding)

One of the strongest voting records on LGBT rights in parliament, so not much. Made a hash of it rather than anything else

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

aliwibble said:

cafcnick1992 said:

I never saw this response. What was it?

I am 25 years old now and i don't feel much affinity to any political party as such. I don't warm towards parties on the left because i see them as anti-aspiration.

I pay my taxes. If i work hard and climb the ladder, why should my efforts be massively penalised?

If i have a child, why can't i send them to a private school?

Why should bright children from poor backgrounds be denied access to a grammar school just to fit into the socialist agenda. A total waste of talent.

Anti aspiration.

what's aspirational about going to private school exactly?

No riff raff

Depends on your definition of riff-raff. There certainly was no shortage of little shits at the one my friend used to teach at.

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

What's the score with Farron skirting round the gay sex issue then? Not very liberal, and with him wanting to re do the referendum, he don't seem very democratic either (In the words of David Wooding)

That's religion. It makes otherwise nice people think nasty things.

A-R-T-H-U-R said:

mcgrandall said:

A-R-T-H-U-R said:

I'll guess he will vote for the party that best serves his interest.

Multi-millionaire, multi home owning (some say $37 million worth), powerful ex barrister businessman who considered knighting Syria's President Bashar al-Assad, public boarding schoolboy, brother of a high court judge, friend of media moguls Murdoch and Desmond
.
Let me see.......

Was it the Greens?

Not conforming to you stereotype then?

Something wrong with the post?
Nothing that bothers you about it?

He is everything the left wing claim to hate.
So many stereotypes are there to be challenged.

No, he is everything you claim the left to hate. You paint the beliefs of a few as the entirety of Corbyn's support. Most do not have a problem with success or him working hard to enter a tough profession twice. I've contemplated many stupid ideas over the years as certainly as you have, but ultimately it ended with him deciding not to give a knighthood to someone. Most people don't have a problem with people having a private education, nor having a family member that is a a member of the judiciary . Personally, I can even forgive cosying up to Murdock, who has tortured leaders before and since, especially when you talk about electability. I would suggest that most people, even those on the left, hate Blair for different reasons. I suppose that is how you form a straw man argument though.

You've not read much of this thread then, or chosen to ignore the more extreme posts perhaps, but I understand you are only expressing your opinion.

Sweeping use of 'most' by the way!

cafcnick1992 said:

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

What's the score with Farron skirting round the gay sex issue then? Not very liberal, and with him wanting to re do the referendum, he don't seem very democratic either (In the words of David Wooding)

That's religion. It makes otherwise nice people think nasty things.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/theresa-may-says-god-and-her-faith-is-guiding-brexit-decisions_uk_583bdcd7e4b0207d1918523c

seth plum said:

McBobbin said:

Does Blair genuinely not realise what a weeping polyp on the anus of this country he is?

Especially when looking at all the new schools built under his watch in Lewisham, Southwark and Greenwich.

He did so much good, especially at the start... And then so spectacularly trashed it. When you consider the crap prime ministers we had either side he should be a legend

SDAddick said:

A-R-T-H-U-R said:

Corbyn must be delighted with Blair's announcement today as reported on The World at One.

Although he has previously ruled out standing for Parliament again after an absence of 10 years, Mr Blair said:
"I look at the British political scene at the moment and I actually almost feel motivated to go right back into it," he added. "We're just allowing ourselves to be hijacked by what is actually quite a small group of people with a strong ideology."

Mr Blair stepped down from frontline politics in 2007 but has become more politically active in recent months, setting up a think tank in London to make the case for the centre ground and for continued EU membership.

He told the BBC that the opinion polls suggested Prime Minister Theresa May's Conservatives were on course for a landslide victory and he "wasn't totally sure" what Labour's position was on Brexit.

He described Theresa May as "very sensible" and "a perfectly decent person" but said her policy on leaving the EU was "not reasonable" and that it was driven by the right wing of her party.

Yeah so Hillary Clinton has started giving speeches again as well. And both have done some good things in their time in politics/the limelight, and some very bad things in their time in politics, namely the Iraq War (and suiciding people if you believe in certain things, RIP Vince Foster and Dr. David Kelly). But what they really seem to fail to understand is, nobody cares what you think right now. We don't need you. You're not moving the conversation forward. I know you must feel awkward when you're alone and not speaking to cameras or large crowds, but we really just need you to be alone right now. Cheers.

Maybe I'm wrong on this. Maybe enough time has passed with Blair. But given that time is linear, it sure feels like there isn't enough time for large swathes of the electorate to think to themselves once again "What would Tony Blair say about this?"

I just can't accept the use of 'suicide' as a verb. But having looked it up apparently some definitions allow it as a verb. Is 'suiciding' a commonly used word in the US?

Red_in_SE8 said:

SDAddick said:

A-R-T-H-U-R said:

Corbyn must be delighted with Blair's announcement today as reported on The World at One.

Although he has previously ruled out standing for Parliament again after an absence of 10 years, Mr Blair said:
"I look at the British political scene at the moment and I actually almost feel motivated to go right back into it," he added. "We're just allowing ourselves to be hijacked by what is actually quite a small group of people with a strong ideology."

Mr Blair stepped down from frontline politics in 2007 but has become more politically active in recent months, setting up a think tank in London to make the case for the centre ground and for continued EU membership.

He told the BBC that the opinion polls suggested Prime Minister Theresa May's Conservatives were on course for a landslide victory and he "wasn't totally sure" what Labour's position was on Brexit.

He described Theresa May as "very sensible" and "a perfectly decent person" but said her policy on leaving the EU was "not reasonable" and that it was driven by the right wing of her party.

Yeah so Hillary Clinton has started giving speeches again as well. And both have done some good things in their time in politics/the limelight, and some very bad things in their time in politics, namely the Iraq War (and suiciding people if you believe in certain things, RIP Vince Foster and Dr. David Kelly). But what they really seem to fail to understand is, nobody cares what you think right now. We don't need you. You're not moving the conversation forward. I know you must feel awkward when you're alone and not speaking to cameras or large crowds, but we really just need you to be alone right now. Cheers.

Maybe I'm wrong on this. Maybe enough time has passed with Blair. But given that time is linear, it sure feels like there isn't enough time for large swathes of the electorate to think to themselves once again "What would Tony Blair say about this?"

I just can't accept the use of 'suicide' as a verb. But having looked it up apparently some definitions allow it as a verb. Is 'suiciding' a commonly used word in the US?

No no it's very much exclusive to conspiracy theory circles, and I only use it sarcastically.