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England Cricket 2017

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  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Am I right in saying that SA has won the toss in every game so far ?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,989

    Am I right in saying that SA has won the toss in every game so far ?

    Yes.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    If Bairstow gets a big score today then Roy really will be under pressure especially if he draws a blank against Bangladesh.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    edited May 2017

    If Bairstow gets a big score today then Roy really will be under pressure especially if he draws a blank against Bangladesh.

    But if they drop him, who would open? ... Root ?
    Actually think we would be a better team with Bairstow in the side, I think he's come on leaps and bounds in the past season, and is a very talented bat.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767

    If Bairstow gets a big score today then Roy really will be under pressure especially if he draws a blank against Bangladesh.

    But if they drop him, who would open? ... Root ?
    Actually think we would be a better team with Bairstow in the side, I think he's come on leaps and bounds in the past season, and is a very talented bat.
    Bairstow would open - he scored 174 doing so this month in the Royal London against Durham.
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,960
    Totally ridiculous that Bairstow is not a regular starter and that's not said with the benefit of hindsight!
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Roy has now managed just 50 in his last 6 ODIs for England - Bairstow averages 72.33 in his last 6.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    92/7 Willey out for 26
  • Bilko
    Bilko Posts: 767
    Being that the 1st ICC game is at the Oval Roy might keep his place being that it his own ground.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    153 all out Roland Jones left 37no
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  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    From Cricinfo.....
    "Willey, Ball, de Kock and two slips in."
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,477
    Very very good toss to win......just knew we were bang in trouble from that moment on.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    A dead match, and England have rested players etc

    But this has been a seriously poor performance today, especially when you consider that the main run scorers Bairstow, Willey and TRJ aren't first choice or even in the Champions Trophy squad!
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    Just hope this can be shrugged off and not cause us to lose momentum
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    it wont be an issue, last match of series already won, win the toss, and win game - will have no bearing on performances - lets just hope that some of the matches aren't decided by the toss in the same way - however, the fact we have lost three on the trot might mean that one is due our way.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    tbh, I don't know why they aren't starting all games at 2pm - would stop all this advantage of winning the toss mullarkey- after all, all the venues now have floodlights.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    Conditions were surely not THAT different first things today? It's still cloudy and close now
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,477

    Conditions were surely not THAT different first things today? It's still cloudy and close now

    Disagree.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842

    Conditions were surely not THAT different first things today? It's still cloudy and close now

    Disagree.
    They were harder, but not 20-6 harder. If England had batted with more caution, conditions clearly would have been easier for the second half of the innings as can be seen by TRJ and the S African batsmen, and we could have at least posted some sort of challenging score
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    Good spell by Ball 2-43 off his 10 overs
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    S Africa made the total easily in the end, but conditions weren't easy for them either. If England had got past 250, things could have been interesting.

    Willey was by far the worst England bowler, he seems to have lost form at the moment
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,477

    Conditions were surely not THAT different first things today? It's still cloudy and close now

    Disagree.

    I agree.....and South Africa bowled very well, as well as us batting with way too much attacking flair for the conditions.

  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,805
    Willey plays better with Wood.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,651

    Willey plays better with Wood.

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842

    Willey plays better with Wood.

    Ball got de Kock out today

  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,949

    I am actually a big fan of Willey

    I know, I'm childish, but tee hee.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,989
    edited May 2017
    I'd put today down as a one off & in the main due to losing the toss, at Lords in late spring.

    Similar to the Nat West 50 over final (whatever it's called these days).
    Whoever bats first there in early September invariably loses, due to early wickets falling from the ball movement.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    edited May 2017
    Again, i dont understand why they dont have all the games starting at 2pm - i bet its all to do with tv audience in India, being that an 11am start is 4/5 pm in India whereas 2pm will be a 7/8 pm in India. Which is probably one of the reasons why you wont ever see a cricket world tournament in West Indies again.
    You only have to look at the posters on Cricinfo for games that dont even involve India to see where the powerhouse is.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,911

    I'd put today down as a one off & in the main due to losing the toss, at Lords in late spring.

    Similar to the Nat West 50 over final (whatever it's called these days).
    Whoever bats first there in early September invariably loses, due to early wickets falling from the ball movement.

    Which is why the Surrey decision to bat first in last year's final was particularly strange and the weather was bad first up too....
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Gloucestershire won batting first the previous year ;)