The 2017 Summer Transfer Rumours Thread (Deadline Day from page 264)
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Hmm... Not one loanee has returned for a second spell under Roland...Covered End said:Apologies for posting a rumour
https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/24986/charlton-working-deal-bring-chelsea-man-back-valley/0 -
Honestly do see both Dasilva and Mavididi coming back next season.ForeverAddickted said:
Hmm... Not one loanee has returned for a second spell under Roland...Covered End said:Apologies for posting a rumour
https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/24986/charlton-working-deal-bring-chelsea-man-back-valley/6 -
I wouldn't mind that... especially if RD F***s off too.Sage said:
Honestly do see both Dasilva and Mavididi coming back next season.ForeverAddickted said:
Hmm... Not one loanee has returned for a second spell under Roland...Covered End said:Apologies for posting a rumour
https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/24986/charlton-working-deal-bring-chelsea-man-back-valley/3 -
Think I'm firmly in the minority, but thought Mavididi was terrible, clearly very talented but very greedy and looked uninterested until he got the ball.Sage said:
Honestly do see both Dasilva and Mavididi coming back next season.ForeverAddickted said:
Hmm... Not one loanee has returned for a second spell under Roland...Covered End said:Apologies for posting a rumour
https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/24986/charlton-working-deal-bring-chelsea-man-back-valley/10 -
Raw i think but worth having for a full season with a pre season with us.Pelling1993 said:
Think I'm firmly in the minority, but thought Mavididi was terrible, clearly very talented but very greedy and looked uninterested until he got the ball.Sage said:
Honestly do see both Dasilva and Mavididi coming back next season.ForeverAddickted said:
Hmm... Not one loanee has returned for a second spell under Roland...Covered End said:Apologies for posting a rumour
https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/24986/charlton-working-deal-bring-chelsea-man-back-valley/6 -
My concern with Mavididi would be what impact has the injury had on him. Medical science heals hamstring injuries better than it once did, but so many pacy players have been badly effected by a bad hamstring injury over the years that I'd be hesitant to assume that he will be exactly the same player and tie him up on a season long loan without him proving he's made a full recovery first.0
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Put a clause in the loan that says if his hamstring goes we can return him to Arsenal, therefore not having to pay his wages if he is out injuredExiled_Addick said:My concern with Mavididi would be what impact has the injury had on him. Medical science heals hamstring injuries better than it once did, but so many pacy players have been badly effected by a bad hamstring injury over the years that I'd be hesitant to assume that he will be exactly the same player and tie him up on a season long loan without him proving he's made a full recovery first.
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And if Arsenal say "no"?blackpool72 said:
Put a clause in the loan that says if his hamstring goes we can return him to Arsenal, therefore not having to pay his wages if he is out injuredExiled_Addick said:My concern with Mavididi would be what impact has the injury had on him. Medical science heals hamstring injuries better than it once did, but so many pacy players have been badly effected by a bad hamstring injury over the years that I'd be hesitant to assume that he will be exactly the same player and tie him up on a season long loan without him proving he's made a full recovery first.
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Is it not standard for the player to return in the event of injury anyway?1
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Depends but that doesn't mean the loaning club stop paying the wages if that was the deal.cafc_harry said:Is it not standard for the player to return in the event of injury anyway?
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Then we don't loan him we go for someone else.Henry Irving said:
And if Arsenal say "no"?blackpool72 said:
Put a clause in the loan that says if his hamstring goes we can return him to Arsenal, therefore not having to pay his wages if he is out injuredExiled_Addick said:My concern with Mavididi would be what impact has the injury had on him. Medical science heals hamstring injuries better than it once did, but so many pacy players have been badly effected by a bad hamstring injury over the years that I'd be hesitant to assume that he will be exactly the same player and tie him up on a season long loan without him proving he's made a full recovery first.
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I imagine both parties will be well insured against it anyway, so probably a moot point.2
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Can't see Dasilva coming back, will have better options. No real opinion on Mavadidi, couple of times I saw him though he was cack.5
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Talking of Arsenal loan strikers, I think Sanogo has been released. Wouldn't break the bank although doubt we have any scouts or coaching staff still around from the distant history of about 14 months ago.0
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Its not so much that if his hamstring goes, any player can get injured at anytime, it's more has his hamstring injury affected his ability, specifically, is he still as quick as he was.blackpool72 said:
Put a clause in the loan that says if his hamstring goes we can return him to Arsenal, therefore not having to pay his wages if he is out injuredExiled_Addick said:My concern with Mavididi would be what impact has the injury had on him. Medical science heals hamstring injuries better than it once did, but so many pacy players have been badly effected by a bad hamstring injury over the years that I'd be hesitant to assume that he will be exactly the same player and tie him up on a season long loan without him proving he's made a full recovery first.
It's not always the case, but if quick players lose pace, it can often turn them form a very good player to an average or even poor one overnight. I'd prefer to see him play as a trialist in 2 or 3 pre season games and see if he looks like the same player we had before he got injured. Not saying we should just not sign him, just saying we shouldn't just assume he'll be a good signing based solely on last season.2 -
Michael Owen a case in point. Although Danny Haynes suffered for years but was still the quickest player I've seen in a Charlton shirt. Bournemouth away he was unplayable.2
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The quickest.harveys_gardener said:Michael Owen a case in point. Although Danny Haynes suffered for years but was still the quickest player I've seen in a Charlton shirt. Bournemouth away he was unplayable.
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Spanners release David Forde and Joe Martin. A goalkeeper and a left back. Two positions that we need this summer.1
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Yes and Pringle was quick but I stand by my Dan. Possibly Dennis suffered from the ball always played behind him so he had to make standing starts.blackpool72 said:
The quickest.harveys_gardener said:Michael Owen a case in point. Although Danny Haynes suffered for years but was still the quickest player I've seen in a Charlton shirt. Bournemouth away he was unplayable.
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Dennis was the fastest I've ever seen. Didn't he used to run 100m in 10seconds?0
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I'm sure someone more ITK can correct me but could Thursday be the first day of anything? I think some contracts start to expire then.0
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Yeah. I heard a rumour that Thursday is the first day of something too.cafc_harry said:I'm sure someone more ITK can correct me but could Thursday be the first day of anything? I think some contracts start to expire then.
June.
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I thought most players contracts end on June 30thcafc_harry said:I'm sure someone more ITK can correct me but could Thursday be the first day of anything? I think some contracts start to expire then.
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I think youth contracts end at the end of May and senior players contracts finish end of June.0
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He did. Before crossing into the crowd.sam3110 said:Dennis was the fastest I've ever seen. Didn't he used to run 100m in 10seconds?
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As of right now... is Dasilva still ours?
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No he's not ours, and way more than we could payNapaAddick said:As of right now... is Dasilva still ours?
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are you still hopeful ?roseandcrown said:
It is still only May only a handful of clubs have signed players at this stage. No need for panic just yet though!daveydanger said:
Quite a few. Sheffield Utd, Bury, Burton and Millwall to name some from the last few pages on this thread.roseandcrown said:
is it really though? How many other clubs have made signings yet?hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Quite incredible that we have currently failed to make a single signing.
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The club are waiting for the millions to be collected in the last few days of season ticket renewals2
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In two great books.. "Soccernomics" and "The Numbers Game" the authors laid out with enormous data research what works in the transfer market....
1. Buy players age 20-23. They are old enough to be formed but still cheap. They also have the best sell-on values and are the best bang for the buck with the best upside.
2. Don't let managers run the transfer budget. On average the managers last 1.3 seasons and thus it becomes a merry go round of short term transfers and re-loading. Get a Director of Football to run it and think long-term.
3. Sell players around age 28-30, even if they are popular. You get the best value and sell before everyone else figures out that statistically players peak at age 27. Old players on long contracts kill clubs.
4. Focus on defense more than forwards. Adding one goal in a match increases table points 1.1 per match. Stopping one goal adds 1.4. The conventional wisdom is wrong. Defense actually matters more than offense.
5. When you sell a good older player, take that money and buy a few good younger ones. Repeat. Over and over.
6. Bring up through the academy. Investing in the academy has returns much, much, much higher than incoming transfers. And academy players fit in culturally quicker.
This makes sense to me and I wish we would do it. Cousins, Pope, Lookman, Konsa... that would have been a great core for the future.8
