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The General Election - June 8th 2017
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Haha.MuttleyCAFC said:I know people don't want another election but we can't go on like this. It doesn't help the Conservatives, it is never popular when you just look like you are trying to hang on!
So were corbyn in May's position, struggling to strike up a deal to make up his own government, would you be suggesting another election? Would you fuck!
Liberal life in full flow today. Hilarious stuff chaps.
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I want them to hang on. It was the Tory party through Cameron who got us in to this shitstorm - I want them to attempt to get us out of it. I'm pretty confident they won't be able to and consequently they could be in opposition for a very long time.MuttleyCAFC said:I know people don't want another election but we can't go on like this. It doesn't help the Conservatives, it is never popular when you just look like you are trying to hang on!
This election was not the one to win - it's the next one in a year or two.12 -
Why wouldn't they? Happened before hasn't it.Bow_Addick said:
Haha.MuttleyCAFC said:I know people don't want another election but we can't go on like this. It doesn't help the Conservatives, it is never popular when you just look like you are trying to hang on!
So were corbyn in May's position, struggling to strike up a deal to make up his own government, would you be suggesting another election? Would you fuck!
Liberal life in full flow today. Hilarious stuff chaps.0 -
Not going to happen, I've a bet on next year or 2019 so it's a dead cert for then!MuttleyCAFC said:I know people don't want another election but we can't go on like this. It doesn't help the Conservatives, it is never popular when you just look like you are trying to hang on!
Last thing we need right now is another election, like Bob says, they'll probably sink or maybe swim and they'll be another one in the next 2 years anyway so sit tight.
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Jeremy Corbyn disrespects the Queen by respecting protocol and not bowing while May breaks protocol to bow.2 -
Always been anti-monarchy, no surprise at all. Non-story really.Callumcafc said:
Jeremy Corbyn disrespects the Queen by respecting protocol and not bowing while May breaks protocol to bow.0 -
She's getting her team to play with smiles on their faces. As they sharpen the knives behind her back #TheresaFraeye3
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All those TV debates she has been doing through May and June, I agree she must be creamed.cabbles said:
To be fair Norn Irish very kindly gave me a thorough history of the situation over there. I think it's very nuanced and not that I'm one to defend her, she's probably got a lot of competing interests etcDazzler21 said:If you can't even negotiate a deal with the DUP how are you expecting to do so with the EU?
Plus again not defending her, she's been battered from pillar to post recently. I imagine she's frazzled2 -
It suits Labour for her to hang on - you Tories are desperate and defensive.
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But more to the point, he did what was expected of him by protocol. Faux outrage from the Scum designed to whip up an anti-Corbyn frenzy.stonemuse said:
Always been anti-monarchy, no surprise at all. Non-story really.Callumcafc said:
Jeremy Corbyn disrespects the Queen by respecting protocol and not bowing while May breaks protocol to bow.6 -
The Queen so peed off with this nosnsense and having to miss some of Royal Ascot that she wore her EU outfut!12
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Dazzler21 said:
All those TV debates she has been doing through May and June, I agree she must be creamed.cabbles said:
To be fair Norn Irish very kindly gave me a thorough history of the situation over there. I think it's very nuanced and not that I'm one to defend her, she's probably got a lot of competing interests etcDazzler21 said:If you can't even negotiate a deal with the DUP how are you expecting to do so with the EU?
Plus again not defending her, she's been battered from pillar to post recently. I imagine she's frazzled
very good - but in all seriousness I do wonder what the stress must be doing to her based on the terrorist attacks, the election and Grenfell. I'm not defending her, but that is a lot to take in etc 1 -
Plus she has to know that there is no way the Tories are going to stick with her through another election. The first decent opportunity they get she is toast!0
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Well she could have easily avoided one of those - that would have also taken away trying to hatch a deal with a bunch of loonies.cabbles said:Dazzler21 said:
All those TV debates she has been doing through May and June, I agree she must be creamed.cabbles said:
To be fair Norn Irish very kindly gave me a thorough history of the situation over there. I think it's very nuanced and not that I'm one to defend her, she's probably got a lot of competing interests etcDazzler21 said:If you can't even negotiate a deal with the DUP how are you expecting to do so with the EU?
Plus again not defending her, she's been battered from pillar to post recently. I imagine she's frazzled very good - but in all seriousness I do wonder what the stress must be doing to her based on the terrorist attacks, the election and Grenfell. I'm not defending her, but that is a lot to take in etc
So, much of it self-inflicted.
If you aspire to high office then one of the basic requirements is the ability to deal with the pressure. She clearly can't.2 -
jeremy corbyn is so cool i wish he was pm
whatever about may/tories failings.
but how can someone that's winking in parliament/refusing to inkeep with traditions and appearing at glastonbury meant to lead a country.
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Pretty essential in the heat we're having.palarsehater said:jeremy corbyn is so cool i wish he was pm
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Like Diane Abbottbobmunro said:
Well she could have easily avoided one of those - that would have also taken away trying to hatch a deal with a bunch of loonies.cabbles said:Dazzler21 said:
All those TV debates she has been doing through May and June, I agree she must be creamed.cabbles said:
To be fair Norn Irish very kindly gave me a thorough history of the situation over there. I think it's very nuanced and not that I'm one to defend her, she's probably got a lot of competing interests etcDazzler21 said:If you can't even negotiate a deal with the DUP how are you expecting to do so with the EU?
Plus again not defending her, she's been battered from pillar to post recently. I imagine she's frazzled very good - but in all seriousness I do wonder what the stress must be doing to her based on the terrorist attacks, the election and Grenfell. I'm not defending her, but that is a lot to take in etc
So, much of it self-inflicted.
If you aspire to high office then one of the basic requirements is the ability to deal with the pressure. She clearly can't.0 -
Yep - and the vast majority of the 650 MP's in the house.Southbank said:
Like Diane Abbottbobmunro said:
Well she could have easily avoided one of those - that would have also taken away trying to hatch a deal with a bunch of loonies.cabbles said:Dazzler21 said:
All those TV debates she has been doing through May and June, I agree she must be creamed.cabbles said:
To be fair Norn Irish very kindly gave me a thorough history of the situation over there. I think it's very nuanced and not that I'm one to defend her, she's probably got a lot of competing interests etcDazzler21 said:If you can't even negotiate a deal with the DUP how are you expecting to do so with the EU?
Plus again not defending her, she's been battered from pillar to post recently. I imagine she's frazzled very good - but in all seriousness I do wonder what the stress must be doing to her based on the terrorist attacks, the election and Grenfell. I'm not defending her, but that is a lot to take in etc
So, much of it self-inflicted.
If you aspire to high office then one of the basic requirements is the ability to deal with the pressure. She clearly can't.6 -
Diane Abbott! Diane Abbott! Hey guys guess what, my favourite party the Tories are a fucking garbage spill but Diane Abbott! Diane Abbott! Diane Abbott!Southbank said:
Like Diane Abbottbobmunro said:
Well she could have easily avoided one of those - that would have also taken away trying to hatch a deal with a bunch of loonies.cabbles said:Dazzler21 said:
All those TV debates she has been doing through May and June, I agree she must be creamed.cabbles said:
To be fair Norn Irish very kindly gave me a thorough history of the situation over there. I think it's very nuanced and not that I'm one to defend her, she's probably got a lot of competing interests etcDazzler21 said:If you can't even negotiate a deal with the DUP how are you expecting to do so with the EU?
Plus again not defending her, she's been battered from pillar to post recently. I imagine she's frazzled very good - but in all seriousness I do wonder what the stress must be doing to her based on the terrorist attacks, the election and Grenfell. I'm not defending her, but that is a lot to take in etc
So, much of it self-inflicted.
If you aspire to high office then one of the basic requirements is the ability to deal with the pressure. She clearly can't.14 - Sponsored links:
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Diane Abbott!7
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bobmunro said:
Pretty essential in the heat we're having.palarsehater said:jeremy corbyn is so cool i wish he was pm
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Elections over mate. As the post below yours pointed out I wasn't claiming she was a safe pair of hands I was claiming she was being portrayed as one. Even when criticising the Conservatives some on here get upset that it isn't going far enough.Bournemouth Addick said:
Can I ask what was it about her running of the Home Office that led to you believing she was a safe pair of hands?Huskaris said:
I used to. The main problem she has is that her USP, if you like, was her ability to look almost like a headmistress, a safe, authoritive pair of hands, something she could portray herself as if she had won the landslide. Instead it's like all the naughty children have just thrown a party in her office and left an unwanted present on her desk.Friend Or Defoe said:Do any Tory voters actually like may?
Please answer without using the words Corbyn or Labour.
Now, it's got to the point where people are legitimately able to use her own slogans against her "coalition of chaos" etc.
She's gone from headmistress to headless chicken in the space of a few weeks...
Still though, I like her because she's not Corbyn or Labour.... ;-)
It's a political party not a religion. To quote my politics teacher when discussing how to formulate an argument in a politcs essay "Yes, but, So." Balance helps you grow intellectually, which might help you more than saying that we are a trillion pages in and no one has made a single good argument for The Conservatives. What you should say instead is that in your biased political view, no one has made an argument for the conservatives that you are willing to concede.
Student union politics in all its glory, and yes, I think the Conservatives did a shit job in the campaign and there is merit in some of what Corbyn says. something I would say if May won an increased majority.
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Ed Balls!Leuth said:Diane Abbott!
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Greatest way to increase your like count, come in this thread and write a diatribe about how evil the conservatives are and how great corbyn is.
Greatest way to increase your lol count, the reverse of the above.6 -
Well anyone who wants to hear an interview every bit as dismally incompetent as Abbott's need go only to this recording of today's PM on Radio 4, and the interview with Boris Johnson. Make sure you hear it from the start (about 30 mins in if I recall) and not the one minute clip they have of part of it.If you had never encountered him before you would think it was a satire. At one point, just like Abbott, he completely loses his thread. Unlike Abbott, he does not mess up figures, because he does not offer any. Under sustained but entirely reasonable questioning from Eddie Mair, he gives the impression that he is not familiar with the details in the Queen's Speech, on almost anything. Do try to listen.Leuth said:
Diane Abbott! Diane Abbott! Hey guys guess what, my favourite party the Tories are a fucking garbage spill but Diane Abbott! Diane Abbott! Diane Abbott!Southbank said:
Like Diane Abbottbobmunro said:
Well she could have easily avoided one of those - that would have also taken away trying to hatch a deal with a bunch of loonies.cabbles said:Dazzler21 said:
All those TV debates she has been doing through May and June, I agree she must be creamed.cabbles said:
To be fair Norn Irish very kindly gave me a thorough history of the situation over there. I think it's very nuanced and not that I'm one to defend her, she's probably got a lot of competing interests etcDazzler21 said:If you can't even negotiate a deal with the DUP how are you expecting to do so with the EU?
Plus again not defending her, she's been battered from pillar to post recently. I imagine she's frazzled very good - but in all seriousness I do wonder what the stress must be doing to her based on the terrorist attacks, the election and Grenfell. I'm not defending her, but that is a lot to take in etc
So, much of it self-inflicted.
If you aspire to high office then one of the basic requirements is the ability to deal with the pressure. She clearly can't.
Is there anyone at all left on this thread who is ready to support the idea that this man could take over from May as PM?
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If you mean anyone that thinks it might happen then yes there is at least one.PragueAddick said:
Well anyone who wants to hear an interview every bit as dismally incompetent as Abbott's need go only to this recording of today's PM on Radio 4, and the interview with Boris Johnson. Make sure you hear it from the start (about 30 mins in if I recall) and not the one minute clip they have of part of it.If you had never encountered him before you would think it was a satire. At one point, just like Abbott, he completely loses his thread. Unlike Abbott, he does not mess up figures, because he does not offer any. Under sustained but entirely reasonable questioning from Eddie Mair, he gives the impression that he is not familiar with the details in the Queen's Speech, on almost anything. Do try to listen.Leuth said:
Diane Abbott! Diane Abbott! Hey guys guess what, my favourite party the Tories are a fucking garbage spill but Diane Abbott! Diane Abbott! Diane Abbott!Southbank said:
Like Diane Abbottbobmunro said:
Well she could have easily avoided one of those - that would have also taken away trying to hatch a deal with a bunch of loonies.cabbles said:Dazzler21 said:
All those TV debates she has been doing through May and June, I agree she must be creamed.cabbles said:
To be fair Norn Irish very kindly gave me a thorough history of the situation over there. I think it's very nuanced and not that I'm one to defend her, she's probably got a lot of competing interests etcDazzler21 said:If you can't even negotiate a deal with the DUP how are you expecting to do so with the EU?
Plus again not defending her, she's been battered from pillar to post recently. I imagine she's frazzled very good - but in all seriousness I do wonder what the stress must be doing to her based on the terrorist attacks, the election and Grenfell. I'm not defending her, but that is a lot to take in etc
So, much of it self-inflicted.
If you aspire to high office then one of the basic requirements is the ability to deal with the pressure. She clearly can't.
Is there anyone at all left on this thread who is ready to support the idea that this man could take over from May as PM?
I can't see May lasting until 2022 and in the leadership election that will follow I'm convinced that Boris will put himself forward and I think that there is such a shortage of credible leaders that he might win.
The fact that he is, almost certainly, worse than May is irrelavent. He is still one of a small list that could follow her.1 -
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Rightio. So when you say it "...was her ability to look almost like a headmistress, a safe, authoritive pair of hands" what you mean is no one should disagree with or question ýour perception of this with examples where she's been anything but. Fair enough and thanks for the advice also.Huskaris said:
Elections over mate. As the post below yours pointed out I wasn't claiming she was a safe pair of hands I was claiming she was being portrayed as one. Even when criticising the Conservatives some on here get upset that it isn't going far enough.Bournemouth Addick said:
Can I ask what was it about her running of the Home Office that led to you believing she was a safe pair of hands?Huskaris said:
I used to. The main problem she has is that her USP, if you like, was her ability to look almost like a headmistress, a safe, authoritive pair of hands, something she could portray herself as if she had won the landslide. Instead it's like all the naughty children have just thrown a party in her office and left an unwanted present on her desk.Friend Or Defoe said:Do any Tory voters actually like may?
Please answer without using the words Corbyn or Labour.
Now, it's got to the point where people are legitimately able to use her own slogans against her "coalition of chaos" etc.
She's gone from headmistress to headless chicken in the space of a few weeks...
Still though, I like her because she's not Corbyn or Labour.... ;-)
It's a political party not a religion. To quote my politics teacher when discussing how to formulate an argument in a politcs essay "Yes, but, So." Balance helps you grow intellectually, which might help you more than saying that we are a trillion pages in and no one has made a single good argument for The Conservatives. What you should say instead is that in your biased political view, no one has made an argument for the conservatives that you are willing to concede.
Student union politics in all its glory, and yes, I think the Conservatives did a shit job in the campaign and there is merit in some of what Corbyn says. something I would say if May won an increased majority.2
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