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The 2017 Summer Transfer Rumours Thread (Deadline Day from page 264)

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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,624
    moutuakilla said:

    Hope Igor is permanent or we will be supplementing his wages I'd imagine

    If we are going to keep on paying his wages then he should be playing for us, if not then ship him out permanently. If his wages are too high for another club and so can't sell him then stop dicking about & play him. The pre-injury Igor was one of the best strikers we have had in the last 5 seasons & he must have recovered from that as he played last season on loan for 2 other clubs. Stupid to loan him out, pay most if not all of his wages & therefore meaning that we cant sign a replacement decent striker
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    edited June 2017
    Callumcafc said:

    Good signing for Rotherham.

    I know KR wants Reeves, but I can't help but think Ball would have been a better signing.

    Ball scores more, is an actual striker, is bigger and has more League One experience.


  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,360
    NapaAddick said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Good signing for Rotherham.

    I know KR wants Reeves, but I can't help but think Ball would have been a better signing.

    Ball scores more, is an actual striker, is bigger and has more League One experience.


    He isn't what KR is looking for, we want someone to sit behind the striker not an out and out and being shorter is usually better for that position. With Reeves likely much better technically than Ball.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    NapaAddick said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Good signing for Rotherham.

    I know KR wants Reeves, but I can't help but think Ball would have been a better signing.

    Ball scores more, is an actual striker, is bigger and has more League One experience.


    Yeah but Ball hasn't played for MK Dons.
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    edited June 2017
    cafc_harry said:

    NapaAddick said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Good signing for Rotherham.

    I know KR wants Reeves, but I can't help but think Ball would have been a better signing.

    Ball scores more, is an actual striker, is bigger and has more League One experience.


    He isn't what KR is looking for, we want someone to sit behind the striker not an out and out and being shorter is usually better for that position. With Reeves likely much better technically than Ball.
    Appreciate the reasoning. But are we really gonna get him? He was practicing at Dons' facility just yesterday. He does not seem in any hurry to sign here.

    Also, he averages just 5.5 goals per year in League One. And weighs just 67 kilo. Can he really handle any league other than League One, should we ever get promoted?

    Also, Ball is an actual striker, naturally, so there is some flexibility in how we could use him. I doubt Reeves could move up to that position, if needed, at his frail weight. By getting Ball we can unload Ajose and maybe someone else too.

    I am not too attached to what KR wants, as on average, managers stay here for 6 months at a time. Whoever we transfer-in needs to be utilized by the 3-4 managers I expect us to have over the next 2-3 years. I think Ball can do that.

    Finally, Reeves is injury prone. Missed a month last season to a hamstring injury and half the season to a calf injury in 15-16.

    I see Ball as better, more flexible in how we would use, a better scorer and more durable. Just my opinion.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,624
    NapaAddick said:

    cafc_harry said:

    NapaAddick said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Good signing for Rotherham.

    I know KR wants Reeves, but I can't help but think Ball would have been a better signing.

    Ball scores more, is an actual striker, is bigger and has more League One experience.


    He isn't what KR is looking for, we want someone to sit behind the striker not an out and out and being shorter is usually better for that position. With Reeves likely much better technically than Ball.
    Appreciate the reasoning. But are we really gonna get him? He was practicing at Dons' facility just yesterday. He does not seem in any hurry to sign here.

    Also, he averages just 5.5 goals per year in League One. And weighs just 67 kilo. Can he really handle any league other than League One, should we ever get promoted?

    Also, Ball is an actual striker, naturally, so there is some flexibility in how we could use him. I doubt Reeves could move up to that position, if needed, at his frail weight. By getting Ball we can unload Ajose and maybe someone else too.

    I am not too attached to what KR wants, as on average, managers stay here for 6 months at a time. Whoever we transfer-in needs to be utilized by the 3-4 managers I expect us to have over the next 2-3 years. I think Ball can do that.

    Finally, Reeves is injury prone. Missed a month last season to a hamstring injury and half the season to a calf injury in 15-16.

    I see Ball as better, more flexible in how we would use, a better scorer and more durable. Just my opinion.
    But Ball has just signed for Rotherham so what's the point of discussing him, irrespective of whether KF wanted him or if he is a better striker than someone else we haven't signed.
  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,360
    NapaAddick said:

    cafc_harry said:

    NapaAddick said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Good signing for Rotherham.

    I know KR wants Reeves, but I can't help but think Ball would have been a better signing.

    Ball scores more, is an actual striker, is bigger and has more League One experience.


    He isn't what KR is looking for, we want someone to sit behind the striker not an out and out and being shorter is usually better for that position. With Reeves likely much better technically than Ball.
    Appreciate the reasoning. But are we really gonna get him? He was practicing at Dons' facility just yesterday. He does not seem in any hurry to sign here.

    Also, he averages just 5.5 goals per year in League One. And weighs just 67 kilo. Can he really handle any league other than League One, should we ever get promoted?

    Also, Ball is an actual striker, naturally, so there is some flexibility in how we could use him. I doubt Reeves could move up to that position, if needed, at his frail weight. By getting Ball we can unload Ajose and maybe someone else too.

    I am not too attached to what KR wants, as on average, managers stay here for 6 months at a time. Whoever we transfer-in needs to be utilized by the 3-4 managers I expect us to have over the next 2-3 years. I think Ball can do that.

    Finally, Reeves is injury prone. Missed a month last season to a hamstring injury and half the season to a calf injury in 15-16.

    I see Ball as better, more flexible in how we would use, a better scorer and more durable. Just my opinion.
    Honest peace of advice here, stop using numbers as your centre of decisions, we saw how that went for old Tommy D. Reeves is one of the best players in the league in terms of his intricate play and technical ability and his goalscoring is fairly irrelevant, but if he can chip in with 6-10 from midfield and create a load more that's a great return. As for his size, Lorenzo Insigne is 59kg. I'd have him every day of the week 500 times over regardless, like Reeves, though not on the same level, he uses that to his advantage.
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    edited June 2017
    cafc_harry said:

    NapaAddick said:

    cafc_harry said:

    NapaAddick said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Good signing for Rotherham.

    I know KR wants Reeves, but I can't help but think Ball would have been a better signing.

    Ball scores more, is an actual striker, is bigger and has more League One experience.


    He isn't what KR is looking for, we want someone to sit behind the striker not an out and out and being shorter is usually better for that position. With Reeves likely much better technically than Ball.
    Appreciate the reasoning. But are we really gonna get him? He was practicing at Dons' facility just yesterday. He does not seem in any hurry to sign here.

    Also, he averages just 5.5 goals per year in League One. And weighs just 67 kilo. Can he really handle any league other than League One, should we ever get promoted?

    Also, Ball is an actual striker, naturally, so there is some flexibility in how we could use him. I doubt Reeves could move up to that position, if needed, at his frail weight. By getting Ball we can unload Ajose and maybe someone else too.

    I am not too attached to what KR wants, as on average, managers stay here for 6 months at a time. Whoever we transfer-in needs to be utilized by the 3-4 managers I expect us to have over the next 2-3 years. I think Ball can do that.

    Finally, Reeves is injury prone. Missed a month last season to a hamstring injury and half the season to a calf injury in 15-16.

    I see Ball as better, more flexible in how we would use, a better scorer and more durable. Just my opinion.
    Honest peace of advice here, stop using numbers as your centre of decisions, we saw how that went for old Tommy D. Reeves is one of the best players in the league in terms of his intricate play and technical ability and his goalscoring is fairly irrelevant, but if he can chip in with 6-10 from midfield and create a load more that's a great return. As for his size, Lorenzo Insigne is 59kg. I'd have him every day of the week 500 times over regardless, like Reeves, though not on the same level, he uses that to his advantage.
    I hope you are right! I also hope we get him, because there are no other transfer options on the horizon for that position. We've put all our eggs in that one basket.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    NapaAddick said:

    cafc_harry said:

    NapaAddick said:

    cafc_harry said:

    NapaAddick said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Good signing for Rotherham.

    I know KR wants Reeves, but I can't help but think Ball would have been a better signing.

    Ball scores more, is an actual striker, is bigger and has more League One experience.


    He isn't what KR is looking for, we want someone to sit behind the striker not an out and out and being shorter is usually better for that position. With Reeves likely much better technically than Ball.
    Appreciate the reasoning. But are we really gonna get him? He was practicing at Dons' facility just yesterday. He does not seem in any hurry to sign here.

    Also, he averages just 5.5 goals per year in League One. And weighs just 67 kilo. Can he really handle any league other than League One, should we ever get promoted?

    Also, Ball is an actual striker, naturally, so there is some flexibility in how we could use him. I doubt Reeves could move up to that position, if needed, at his frail weight. By getting Ball we can unload Ajose and maybe someone else too.

    I am not too attached to what KR wants, as on average, managers stay here for 6 months at a time. Whoever we transfer-in needs to be utilized by the 3-4 managers I expect us to have over the next 2-3 years. I think Ball can do that.

    Finally, Reeves is injury prone. Missed a month last season to a hamstring injury and half the season to a calf injury in 15-16.

    I see Ball as better, more flexible in how we would use, a better scorer and more durable. Just my opinion.
    Honest peace of advice here, stop using numbers as your centre of decisions, we saw how that went for old Tommy D. Reeves is one of the best players in the league in terms of his intricate play and technical ability and his goalscoring is fairly irrelevant, but if he can chip in with 6-10 from midfield and create a load more that's a great return. As for his size, Lorenzo Insigne is 59kg. I'd have him every day of the week 500 times over regardless, like Reeves, though not on the same level, he uses that to his advantage.
    I hope you are right! I also hope we get him, because there are no other transfer options on the horizon for that position. We've put all our eggs in that one basket.
    We don't know that. Given the way KR wants to play a "number 10" is important. I'd be surprised if he didn't have other options if Reeves goes elsewhere.

    Fosu's name didn't come up at all, not every player we're trying to sign will be linked with us.
  • dizzee
    dizzee Posts: 5,616
    We threw Igor away by not looking after him. He is easily Championship quality and we just let him continue playing whilst injured. We just chucked away our new Darren Bent (Scored goals from being right place right time) through mistreatment.
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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219

    ✍️ #ftfc are delighted to confirm the signing of attacker @CMcAleny on a three-year deal from @Everton! ➡️ https://t.co/bgC6xR458X pic.twitter.com/pCc0c4KQnM

    — Fleetwood Town FC (@ftfc) June 23, 2017
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    Henry Irving said:

    ✍️ #ftfc are delighted to confirm the signing of attacker @CMcAleny on a three-year deal from @Everton! ➡️ https://t.co/bgC6xR458X pic.twitter.com/pCc0c4KQnM

    — Fleetwood Town FC (@ftfc) June 23, 2017

    Wasn't sure what to make of him in his short time here.

    I do remember thinking he had a touch of the spongefoots though.
  • Redvalleyeast
    Redvalleyeast Posts: 4,689
    Henry Irving said:

    ✍️ #ftfc are delighted to confirm the signing of attacker @CMcAleny on a three-year deal from @Everton! ➡️ https://t.co/bgC6xR458X pic.twitter.com/pCc0c4KQnM

    — Fleetwood Town FC (@ftfc) June 23, 2017

    Looked good for Oxford against us last season
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    edited June 2017
    Redvalleyeast said:

    Henry Irving said:

    ✍️ #ftfc are delighted to confirm the signing of attacker @CMcAleny on a three-year deal from @Everton! ➡️ https://t.co/bgC6xR458X pic.twitter.com/pCc0c4KQnM

    — Fleetwood Town FC (@ftfc) June 23, 2017

    Looked good for Oxford against us last season
    Surprised Oxford didn't sign McAleny, as he did well for them. Fleetwood is certainly nearer to home though
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    killerandflash said:

    Redvalleyeast said:

    Henry Irving said:

    ✍️ #ftfc are delighted to confirm the signing of attacker @CMcAleny on a three-year deal from @Everton! ➡️ https://t.co/bgC6xR458X pic.twitter.com/pCc0c4KQnM

    — Fleetwood Town FC (@ftfc) June 23, 2017

    Looked good for Oxford against us last season
    Surprised Oxford didn't sign McAleny, as he did well for them. Fleetwood is certainly nearer to home though
    Oxford have also lost Appleton and a few other players. Might struggle this year.

    Fleetwood are ambitious and have kept hold of Rosler.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    killerandflash said:

    Redvalleyeast said:

    Henry Irving said:

    ✍️ #ftfc are delighted to confirm the signing of attacker @CMcAleny on a three-year deal from @Everton! ➡️ https://t.co/bgC6xR458X pic.twitter.com/pCc0c4KQnM

    — Fleetwood Town FC (@ftfc) June 23, 2017

    Looked good for Oxford against us last season
    Surprised Oxford didn't sign McAleny, as he did well for them. Fleetwood is certainly nearer to home though
    Apparently Oxford did put an Contract offer on the table for him.

    I guess the fact like you say that Fleetwood is closer to home and the fact that Oxford now dont have a Manager was a bit of a defining factor
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,477
    edited June 2017
    dizzee said:

    We threw Igor away by not looking after him. He is easily Championship quality and we just let him continue playing whilst injured. We just chucked away our new Darren Bent (Scored goals from being right place right time) through mistreatment.

    Whilst we all liked him, I think some of your assertions are a tad fanciful.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,254
    golfaddick said:

    moutuakilla said:

    Hope Igor is permanent or we will be supplementing his wages I'd imagine

    If we are going to keep on paying his wages then he should be playing for us, if not then ship him out permanently. If his wages are too high for another club and so can't sell him then stop dicking about & play him. The pre-injury Igor was one of the best strikers we have had in the last 5 seasons & he must have recovered from that as he played last season on loan for 2 other clubs. Stupid to loan him out, pay most if not all of his wages & therefore meaning that we cant sign a replacement decent striker
    This is pinnochio we're talking about !
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,668
    If Igor is fully recovered from his injuries I would rather keep him than Ajose.
    When fully fit he is by far the better of the two.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,624
    Henry Irving said:

    ✍️ #ftfc are delighted to confirm the signing of attacker @CMcAleny on a three-year deal from @Everton! ➡️ https://t.co/bgC6xR458X pic.twitter.com/pCc0c4KQnM

    — Fleetwood Town FC (@ftfc) June 23, 2017

    This should be on the "Other Clubs transfer rumours thread" and not the CAFC one. nothing to do with us. Moderator, 'ave a word.
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  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,699
    Redvalleyeast said:

    Henry Irving said:

    ✍️ #ftfc are delighted to confirm the signing of attacker @CMcAleny on a three-year deal from @Everton! ➡️ https://t.co/bgC6xR458X pic.twitter.com/pCc0c4KQnM

    — Fleetwood Town FC (@ftfc) June 23, 2017
    Looked good for Oxford against us last season

    A lot of people looked good against us last season! ha
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    New signing to be announced over the next couple of days. Straight from a complete nobody, but we will be impressed apparently.
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,725
    Dazzler21 said:

    New signing to be announced over the next couple of days. Straight from a complete nobody, but we will be impressed apparently.

    You are such a tease Dazzler, how am I supposed to get any work done this afternoon?!
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    I'm waiting for him to confirm who, I never believe a rumour until I have all the deets.
  • kings hill addick
    kings hill addick Posts: 5,781
    Henry Irving said:

    killerandflash said:

    Redvalleyeast said:

    Henry Irving said:

    ✍️ #ftfc are delighted to confirm the signing of attacker @CMcAleny on a three-year deal from @Everton! ➡️ https://t.co/bgC6xR458X pic.twitter.com/pCc0c4KQnM

    — Fleetwood Town FC (@ftfc) June 23, 2017

    Looked good for Oxford against us last season
    Surprised Oxford didn't sign McAleny, as he did well for them. Fleetwood is certainly nearer to home though
    Oxford have also lost Appleton and a few other players. Might struggle this year.

    Fleetwood are ambitious and have kept hold of Rosler.
    Well that's one, we just need find another three now!
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Dazzler21 said:

    I'm waiting for him to confirm who, I never believe a rumour until I have all the deets.

    Does it begin with M?

    does it end with arcus Maddison?

    #getswood
  • Gammon
    Gammon Posts: 338
    Not a rumour but Lafferty is a free agent. Decent striker and partners Magennis for country. Hearts look to get him but worth a punt?
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    I rate Lafferty as a player, but he never seems to score enough goals.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,983
    Is he a bit of a trouble maker?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    Gammon said:

    Not a rumour but Lafferty is a free agent. Decent striker and partners Magennis for country. Hearts look to get him but worth a punt?

    Great another failure from Palermo... Why cant we ever sign their more successful Strikers like Dybala?

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