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The 2017 Summer Transfer Rumours Thread (Deadline Day from page 264)
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No. I think that Edwards is better than Page, Djiksteel is better than Crofts by a country mile and will be a Prem star, KAG is better than Ajose based on off the ball runs. Barnes is good back-up for either full back. Laplsie is better than Crofts or Jackson.Covered End said:
You should know by now that harveys_gardener thinks most of our Academy players are better than they are.Scoham said:
So you're saying he'll become one of the best ever Premier League central midfielders?harveys_gardener said:
Djiksteel is the next Patrick Vierra. Trust me.Scoham said:
Done http://mobile.cafc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/charlton-anfernee-dijksteel-contract-extension-3545951.aspxharveys_gardener said:Fortunately Djiksteel is better than Konsa. We just need to tie him to a long deal.
Signed up until 2020.
Can you really be sure he's better until he's played for the first team? It's not just about ability it's consistency, how they cope with the extra pressure etc.1 -
So hasn't anybody herd anymore on reeves joining then ??1
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We don't have to sell our young players any more now that RD is in charge, I remember RM telling us5
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Agree with you that Edwards is better than page. It still annoys me that we let Chickson leave. If Page is 1st choice next season i won't be happyharveys_gardener said:
No. I think that Edwards is better than Page, Djiksteel is better than Crofts by a country mile and will be a Prem star, KAG is better than Ajose based on off the ball runs. Barnes is good back-up for either full back. Laplsie is better than Crofts or Jackson.Covered End said:
You should know by now that harveys_gardener thinks most of our Academy players are better than they are.Scoham said:
So you're saying he'll become one of the best ever Premier League central midfielders?harveys_gardener said:
Djiksteel is the next Patrick Vierra. Trust me.Scoham said:
Done http://mobile.cafc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/charlton-anfernee-dijksteel-contract-extension-3545951.aspxharveys_gardener said:Fortunately Djiksteel is better than Konsa. We just need to tie him to a long deal.
Signed up until 2020.
Can you really be sure he's better until he's played for the first team? It's not just about ability it's consistency, how they cope with the extra pressure etc.2 -
I doubt Edwards will be featuring at all for the first team.0
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And i think you're completely deludedharveys_gardener said:
No. I think that Edwards is better than Page, Djiksteel is better than Crofts by a country mile and will be a Prem star, KAG is better than Ajose based on off the ball runs. Barnes is good back-up for either full back. Laplsie is better than Crofts or Jackson.Covered End said:
You should know by now that harveys_gardener thinks most of our Academy players are better than they are.Scoham said:
So you're saying he'll become one of the best ever Premier League central midfielders?harveys_gardener said:
Djiksteel is the next Patrick Vierra. Trust me.Scoham said:
Done http://mobile.cafc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/charlton-anfernee-dijksteel-contract-extension-3545951.aspxharveys_gardener said:Fortunately Djiksteel is better than Konsa. We just need to tie him to a long deal.
Signed up until 2020.
Can you really be sure he's better until he's played for the first team? It's not just about ability it's consistency, how they cope with the extra pressure etc.3 -
Dick I respect that you know more about our youngsters than most of the staff at CAFC but Archie is coming up 20. He had a bad spell coming back from injury but was looking good again late season. If he doesn't get game time this year we may as well close our academy. He is a better player than Page by a country mile.dickplumb said:I doubt Edwards will be featuring at all for the first team.
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Re: Konsa
Imo, can only make comparisons to a similar player in Joe Gomez.
Gomez was physically stronger, technically better, more tactically aware, and mentally grounded. Not saying Ez won't get there, but at this moment in time, we'd do amazing if we got half of what we got for Joe. Ez needs a season playing, and firstly establish himself as a starter here.4 - Sponsored links:
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Joe was given away at a joke fee by people who had no appreciation of his talent._nam11 said:Re: Konsa
Imo, can only make comparisons to a similar player in Joe Gomez.
Gomez was physically stronger, technically better, more tactically aware, and mentally grounded. Not saying Ez won't get there, but at this moment in time, we'd do amazing if we got half of what we got for Joe. Ez needs a season playing, and firstly establish himself as a starter here.3 -
I rate him, but it seems that the previous coaches like Slade and the current one, Robinson don't rate him. I think his physical make up has something to do with it. He hasn't featured in any of the squads.harveys_gardener said:
Dick I respect that you know more about our youngsters than most of the staff at CAFC but Archie is coming up 20. He had a bad spell coming back from injury but was looking good again late season. If he doesn't get game time this year we may as well close our academy. He is a better player than Page by a country mile.dickplumb said:I doubt Edwards will be featuring at all for the first team.
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Wasn't there a clause in his contract? That may be false information, but it all depends on what you are comparing the fee too.harveys_gardener said:
Joe was given away at a joke fee by people who had no appreciation of his talent._nam11 said:Re: Konsa
Imo, can only make comparisons to a similar player in Joe Gomez.
Gomez was physically stronger, technically better, more tactically aware, and mentally grounded. Not saying Ez won't get there, but at this moment in time, we'd do amazing if we got half of what we got for Joe. Ez needs a season playing, and firstly establish himself as a starter here.
Gomez played 21 times, Konsa 32. If we got anywhere near 5mill, I'd be amazed. But ultimately I think it's in his interest to stay. Although Gomez started well at Liverpool before his injury, it could go the other way like Diego.
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This is a good point, and I am also surprised that Lapslie hasn't seemed to get Robinson going either.dickplumb said:
I rate him, but it seems that the previous coaches like Slade and the current one, Robinson don't rate him. I think his physical make up has something to do with it. He hasn't featured in any of the squads.harveys_gardener said:
Dick I respect that you know more about our youngsters than most of the staff at CAFC but Archie is coming up 20. He had a bad spell coming back from injury but was looking good again late season. If he doesn't get game time this year we may as well close our academy. He is a better player than Page by a country mile.dickplumb said:I doubt Edwards will be featuring at all for the first team.
If we let Lapslie slide away I can see him re-emerging much like Harry Arter has.1 -
The problem is Da Silva is no bigger than Edwards so it's not about size. I rate Edwards but he just doesn't seem to be in favourdickplumb said:
I rate him, but it seems that the previous coaches like Slade and the current one, Robinson don't rate him. I think his physical make up has something to do with it. He hasn't featured in any of the squads.harveys_gardener said:
Dick I respect that you know more about our youngsters than most of the staff at CAFC but Archie is coming up 20. He had a bad spell coming back from injury but was looking good again late season. If he doesn't get game time this year we may as well close our academy. He is a better player than Page by a country mile.dickplumb said:I doubt Edwards will be featuring at all for the first team.
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We sold him early in the window. Big European clubs had him on their radar. Simple to create a bidding war but we sold him virtually in secret._nam11 said:
Wasn't there a clause in his contract? That may be false information, but it all depends on what you are comparing the fee too.harveys_gardener said:
Joe was given away at a joke fee by people who had no appreciation of his talent._nam11 said:Re: Konsa
Imo, can only make comparisons to a similar player in Joe Gomez.
Gomez was physically stronger, technically better, more tactically aware, and mentally grounded. Not saying Ez won't get there, but at this moment in time, we'd do amazing if we got half of what we got for Joe. Ez needs a season playing, and firstly establish himself as a starter here.
Gomez played 21 times, Konsa 32. If we got anywhere near 5mill, I'd be amazed. But ultimately I think it's in his interest to stay. Although Gomez started well at Liverpool before his injury, it could go the other way like Diego.0 -
harveys_gardener said:
No. I think that Edwards is better than Page, Djiksteel is better than Crofts by a country mile and will be a Prem star, KAG is better than Ajose based on off the ball runs. Barnes is good back-up for either full back. Laplsie is better than Crofts or Jackson.Covered End said:
You should know by now that harveys_gardener thinks most of our Academy players are better than they are.Scoham said:
So you're saying he'll become one of the best ever Premier League central midfielders?harveys_gardener said:
Djiksteel is the next Patrick Vierra. Trust me.Scoham said:
Done http://mobile.cafc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/charlton-anfernee-dijksteel-contract-extension-3545951.aspxharveys_gardener said:Fortunately Djiksteel is better than Konsa. We just need to tie him to a long deal.
Signed up until 2020.
Can you really be sure he's better until he's played for the first team? It's not just about ability it's consistency, how they cope with the extra pressure etc.
Isn't that irrelevant if he had a clause in his contract? If the release fee is £3.5m it wouldn't have made a difference if one club wanted him or ten.harveys_gardener said:
We sold him early in the window. Big European clubs had him on their radar. Simple to create a bidding war but we sold him virtually in secret._nam11 said:
Wasn't there a clause in his contract? That may be false information, but it all depends on what you are comparing the fee too.harveys_gardener said:
Joe was given away at a joke fee by people who had no appreciation of his talent._nam11 said:Re: Konsa
Imo, can only make comparisons to a similar player in Joe Gomez.
Gomez was physically stronger, technically better, more tactically aware, and mentally grounded. Not saying Ez won't get there, but at this moment in time, we'd do amazing if we got half of what we got for Joe. Ez needs a season playing, and firstly establish himself as a starter here.
Gomez played 21 times, Konsa 32. If we got anywhere near 5mill, I'd be amazed. But ultimately I think it's in his interest to stay. Although Gomez started well at Liverpool before his injury, it could go the other way like Diego.0 -
Having seen them a couple of times I might just agree.harveys_gardener said:
No. I think that Edwards is better than Page, Djiksteel is better than Crofts by a country mile and will be a Prem star, KAG is better than Ajose based on off the ball runs. Barnes is good back-up for either full back. Laplsie is better than Crofts or Jackson.Covered End said:
You should know by now that harveys_gardener thinks most of our Academy players are better than they are.Scoham said:
So you're saying he'll become one of the best ever Premier League central midfielders?harveys_gardener said:
Djiksteel is the next Patrick Vierra. Trust me.Scoham said:
Done http://mobile.cafc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/charlton-anfernee-dijksteel-contract-extension-3545951.aspxharveys_gardener said:Fortunately Djiksteel is better than Konsa. We just need to tie him to a long deal.
Signed up until 2020.
Can you really be sure he's better until he's played for the first team? It's not just about ability it's consistency, how they cope with the extra pressure etc.
Personally, I wouldn't have Page, Crofts, Jackson and possibly Ajose in the first 11.1 -
Firstly I think the fee was 2.5 not 3.5. Secondly, regardless of a release fee if you get several clubs bidding the fee will go up but we sold him virtually in secret.Scoham said:harveys_gardener said:
No. I think that Edwards is better than Page, Djiksteel is better than Crofts by a country mile and will be a Prem star, KAG is better than Ajose based on off the ball runs. Barnes is good back-up for either full back. Laplsie is better than Crofts or Jackson.Covered End said:
You should know by now that harveys_gardener thinks most of our Academy players are better than they are.Scoham said:
So you're saying he'll become one of the best ever Premier League central midfielders?harveys_gardener said:
Djiksteel is the next Patrick Vierra. Trust me.Scoham said:
Done http://mobile.cafc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/charlton-anfernee-dijksteel-contract-extension-3545951.aspxharveys_gardener said:Fortunately Djiksteel is better than Konsa. We just need to tie him to a long deal.
Signed up until 2020.
Can you really be sure he's better until he's played for the first team? It's not just about ability it's consistency, how they cope with the extra pressure etc.
Isn't that irrelevant if he had a clause in his contract? If the release fee is £3.5m it wouldn't have made a difference if one club wanted him or ten.harveys_gardener said:
We sold him early in the window. Big European clubs had him on their radar. Simple to create a bidding war but we sold him virtually in secret._nam11 said:
Wasn't there a clause in his contract? That may be false information, but it all depends on what you are comparing the fee too.harveys_gardener said:
Joe was given away at a joke fee by people who had no appreciation of his talent._nam11 said:Re: Konsa
Imo, can only make comparisons to a similar player in Joe Gomez.
Gomez was physically stronger, technically better, more tactically aware, and mentally grounded. Not saying Ez won't get there, but at this moment in time, we'd do amazing if we got half of what we got for Joe. Ez needs a season playing, and firstly establish himself as a starter here.
Gomez played 21 times, Konsa 32. If we got anywhere near 5mill, I'd be amazed. But ultimately I think it's in his interest to stay. Although Gomez started well at Liverpool before his injury, it could go the other way like Diego.3 -
Don't be ridiculous, if he has a release fee he has a release fee. Clubs will bid that and activate it. Its then up to the player who he joins.harveys_gardener said:
Firstly I think the fee was 2.5 not 3.5. Secondly, regardless of a release fee if you get several clubs bidding the fee will go up but we sold him virtually in secret.Scoham said:harveys_gardener said:
No. I think that Edwards is better than Page, Djiksteel is better than Crofts by a country mile and will be a Prem star, KAG is better than Ajose based on off the ball runs. Barnes is good back-up for either full back. Laplsie is better than Crofts or Jackson.Covered End said:
You should know by now that harveys_gardener thinks most of our Academy players are better than they are.Scoham said:
So you're saying he'll become one of the best ever Premier League central midfielders?harveys_gardener said:
Djiksteel is the next Patrick Vierra. Trust me.Scoham said:
Done http://mobile.cafc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/charlton-anfernee-dijksteel-contract-extension-3545951.aspxharveys_gardener said:Fortunately Djiksteel is better than Konsa. We just need to tie him to a long deal.
Signed up until 2020.
Can you really be sure he's better until he's played for the first team? It's not just about ability it's consistency, how they cope with the extra pressure etc.
Isn't that irrelevant if he had a clause in his contract? If the release fee is £3.5m it wouldn't have made a difference if one club wanted him or ten.harveys_gardener said:
We sold him early in the window. Big European clubs had him on their radar. Simple to create a bidding war but we sold him virtually in secret._nam11 said:
Wasn't there a clause in his contract? That may be false information, but it all depends on what you are comparing the fee too.harveys_gardener said:
Joe was given away at a joke fee by people who had no appreciation of his talent._nam11 said:Re: Konsa
Imo, can only make comparisons to a similar player in Joe Gomez.
Gomez was physically stronger, technically better, more tactically aware, and mentally grounded. Not saying Ez won't get there, but at this moment in time, we'd do amazing if we got half of what we got for Joe. Ez needs a season playing, and firstly establish himself as a starter here.
Gomez played 21 times, Konsa 32. If we got anywhere near 5mill, I'd be amazed. But ultimately I think it's in his interest to stay. Although Gomez started well at Liverpool before his injury, it could go the other way like Diego.2 - Sponsored links:
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You wouldn't pay more than the release clause.
Everyone would bid the minimum. Then it's down to giving the player the most attractive remuneration. Chelsea and Real Madrid could have been there, they'd still offer 2.5m. It'll be down to Joe who he chooses once all confirmed clubs have matched the clause.0 -
Not necessarily. If the fee is fixed by a clause, then it wouldn't matter if Arsenal offered £10m and Liverpool £3.5m (the minimum), as the player could choose where to go toharveys_gardener said:
Firstly I think the fee was 2.5 not 3.5. Secondly, regardless of a release fee if you get several clubs bidding the fee will go up but we sold him virtually in secret.Scoham said:harveys_gardener said:
No. I think that Edwards is better than Page, Djiksteel is better than Crofts by a country mile and will be a Prem star, KAG is better than Ajose based on off the ball runs. Barnes is good back-up for either full back. Laplsie is better than Crofts or Jackson.Covered End said:
You should know by now that harveys_gardener thinks most of our Academy players are better than they are.Scoham said:
So you're saying he'll become one of the best ever Premier League central midfielders?harveys_gardener said:
Djiksteel is the next Patrick Vierra. Trust me.Scoham said:
Done http://mobile.cafc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/charlton-anfernee-dijksteel-contract-extension-3545951.aspxharveys_gardener said:Fortunately Djiksteel is better than Konsa. We just need to tie him to a long deal.
Signed up until 2020.
Can you really be sure he's better until he's played for the first team? It's not just about ability it's consistency, how they cope with the extra pressure etc.
Isn't that irrelevant if he had a clause in his contract? If the release fee is £3.5m it wouldn't have made a difference if one club wanted him or ten.harveys_gardener said:
We sold him early in the window. Big European clubs had him on their radar. Simple to create a bidding war but we sold him virtually in secret._nam11 said:
Wasn't there a clause in his contract? That may be false information, but it all depends on what you are comparing the fee too.harveys_gardener said:
Joe was given away at a joke fee by people who had no appreciation of his talent._nam11 said:Re: Konsa
Imo, can only make comparisons to a similar player in Joe Gomez.
Gomez was physically stronger, technically better, more tactically aware, and mentally grounded. Not saying Ez won't get there, but at this moment in time, we'd do amazing if we got half of what we got for Joe. Ez needs a season playing, and firstly establish himself as a starter here.
Gomez played 21 times, Konsa 32. If we got anywhere near 5mill, I'd be amazed. But ultimately I think it's in his interest to stay. Although Gomez started well at Liverpool before his injury, it could go the other way like Diego.
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Doesn't matter - the current regime is incapable of funding a promotion push - where's the Lookman money? Paying the salaries of Sarr, Vetokele, Cebalos, Texaira etc and repaying the debt from relegation, lower attendances and massive contract termination fees for umpteen useless players recruited over the last 3 seasons.Valley11 said:Here's a question for you;
Say we have to sell one player to fund the promotion push (even though you'd think the Ade money would pay for that).
Would you sell Konza or Ricky?
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Where did you see 2.5? If you look it up you'll find every site or article has said 3.5.harveys_gardener said:
Firstly I think the fee was 2.5 not 3.5. Secondly, regardless of a release fee if you get several clubs bidding the fee will go up but we sold him virtually in secret.Scoham said:harveys_gardener said:
No. I think that Edwards is better than Page, Djiksteel is better than Crofts by a country mile and will be a Prem star, KAG is better than Ajose based on off the ball runs. Barnes is good back-up for either full back. Laplsie is better than Crofts or Jackson.Covered End said:
You should know by now that harveys_gardener thinks most of our Academy players are better than they are.Scoham said:
So you're saying he'll become one of the best ever Premier League central midfielders?harveys_gardener said:
Djiksteel is the next Patrick Vierra. Trust me.Scoham said:
Done http://mobile.cafc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/charlton-anfernee-dijksteel-contract-extension-3545951.aspxharveys_gardener said:Fortunately Djiksteel is better than Konsa. We just need to tie him to a long deal.
Signed up until 2020.
Can you really be sure he's better until he's played for the first team? It's not just about ability it's consistency, how they cope with the extra pressure etc.
Isn't that irrelevant if he had a clause in his contract? If the release fee is £3.5m it wouldn't have made a difference if one club wanted him or ten.harveys_gardener said:
We sold him early in the window. Big European clubs had him on their radar. Simple to create a bidding war but we sold him virtually in secret._nam11 said:
Wasn't there a clause in his contract? That may be false information, but it all depends on what you are comparing the fee too.harveys_gardener said:
Joe was given away at a joke fee by people who had no appreciation of his talent._nam11 said:Re: Konsa
Imo, can only make comparisons to a similar player in Joe Gomez.
Gomez was physically stronger, technically better, more tactically aware, and mentally grounded. Not saying Ez won't get there, but at this moment in time, we'd do amazing if we got half of what we got for Joe. Ez needs a season playing, and firstly establish himself as a starter here.
Gomez played 21 times, Konsa 32. If we got anywhere near 5mill, I'd be amazed. But ultimately I think it's in his interest to stay. Although Gomez started well at Liverpool before his injury, it could go the other way like Diego.
On the second point others have explained why you wouldn't get a bidding war if a player has a release clause.1 -
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I think he is worth one year. Free, local, wages not going to be too high, he has the hunger, no ego as willing to drop to L2. Worth some friendly time2
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There was also a rumour that a Championship side (Norwich?) had bid more than Liverpool, so it seems that Gomez's £3.5m release clause was for Premier League teams only.Scoham said:
Where did you see 2.5? If you look it up you'll find every site or article has said 3.5.harveys_gardener said:
Firstly I think the fee was 2.5 not 3.5. Secondly, regardless of a release fee if you get several clubs bidding the fee will go up but we sold him virtually in secret.Scoham said:harveys_gardener said:
No. I think that Edwards is better than Page, Djiksteel is better than Crofts by a country mile and will be a Prem star, KAG is better than Ajose based on off the ball runs. Barnes is good back-up for either full back. Laplsie is better than Crofts or Jackson.Covered End said:
You should know by now that harveys_gardener thinks most of our Academy players are better than they are.Scoham said:
So you're saying he'll become one of the best ever Premier League central midfielders?harveys_gardener said:
Djiksteel is the next Patrick Vierra. Trust me.Scoham said:
Done http://mobile.cafc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/charlton-anfernee-dijksteel-contract-extension-3545951.aspxharveys_gardener said:Fortunately Djiksteel is better than Konsa. We just need to tie him to a long deal.
Signed up until 2020.
Can you really be sure he's better until he's played for the first team? It's not just about ability it's consistency, how they cope with the extra pressure etc.
Isn't that irrelevant if he had a clause in his contract? If the release fee is £3.5m it wouldn't have made a difference if one club wanted him or ten.harveys_gardener said:
We sold him early in the window. Big European clubs had him on their radar. Simple to create a bidding war but we sold him virtually in secret._nam11 said:
Wasn't there a clause in his contract? That may be false information, but it all depends on what you are comparing the fee too.harveys_gardener said:
Joe was given away at a joke fee by people who had no appreciation of his talent._nam11 said:Re: Konsa
Imo, can only make comparisons to a similar player in Joe Gomez.
Gomez was physically stronger, technically better, more tactically aware, and mentally grounded. Not saying Ez won't get there, but at this moment in time, we'd do amazing if we got half of what we got for Joe. Ez needs a season playing, and firstly establish himself as a starter here.
Gomez played 21 times, Konsa 32. If we got anywhere near 5mill, I'd be amazed. But ultimately I think it's in his interest to stay. Although Gomez started well at Liverpool before his injury, it could go the other way like Diego.
On the second point others have explained why you wouldn't get a bidding war if a player has a release clause.0 -
Or he didn't want to join Norwich.Ben18 said:
There was also a rumour that a Championship side (Norwich?) had bid more than Liverpool, so it seems that Gomez's £3.5m release clause was for Premier League teams only.Scoham said:
Where did you see 2.5? If you look it up you'll find every site or article has said 3.5.harveys_gardener said:
Firstly I think the fee was 2.5 not 3.5. Secondly, regardless of a release fee if you get several clubs bidding the fee will go up but we sold him virtually in secret.Scoham said:harveys_gardener said:
No. I think that Edwards is better than Page, Djiksteel is better than Crofts by a country mile and will be a Prem star, KAG is better than Ajose based on off the ball runs. Barnes is good back-up for either full back. Laplsie is better than Crofts or Jackson.Covered End said:
You should know by now that harveys_gardener thinks most of our Academy players are better than they are.Scoham said:
So you're saying he'll become one of the best ever Premier League central midfielders?harveys_gardener said:
Djiksteel is the next Patrick Vierra. Trust me.Scoham said:
Done http://mobile.cafc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/charlton-anfernee-dijksteel-contract-extension-3545951.aspxharveys_gardener said:Fortunately Djiksteel is better than Konsa. We just need to tie him to a long deal.
Signed up until 2020.
Can you really be sure he's better until he's played for the first team? It's not just about ability it's consistency, how they cope with the extra pressure etc.
Isn't that irrelevant if he had a clause in his contract? If the release fee is £3.5m it wouldn't have made a difference if one club wanted him or ten.harveys_gardener said:
We sold him early in the window. Big European clubs had him on their radar. Simple to create a bidding war but we sold him virtually in secret._nam11 said:
Wasn't there a clause in his contract? That may be false information, but it all depends on what you are comparing the fee too.harveys_gardener said:
Joe was given away at a joke fee by people who had no appreciation of his talent._nam11 said:Re: Konsa
Imo, can only make comparisons to a similar player in Joe Gomez.
Gomez was physically stronger, technically better, more tactically aware, and mentally grounded. Not saying Ez won't get there, but at this moment in time, we'd do amazing if we got half of what we got for Joe. Ez needs a season playing, and firstly establish himself as a starter here.
Gomez played 21 times, Konsa 32. If we got anywhere near 5mill, I'd be amazed. But ultimately I think it's in his interest to stay. Although Gomez started well at Liverpool before his injury, it could go the other way like Diego.
On the second point others have explained why you wouldn't get a bidding war if a player has a release clause.1 -
Have heard through a couple of things that Reeves could well be signed by this week Wednesday. Don't shoot me down if it doesn't happen, just passing on info.14
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Oh well good luck to him at Sheffield then.21
