Arsenal v Cologne
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and coincidentally only 5 arrests. Sounds like our finest were caught out here.letthegoodtimesroll said:
20,000 football fans don't travel from Cologne to London without anybody noticing. Sounds like the Met has fucked up big time.killerandflash said:I can't recollect German fans ever coming over in such numbers, and causing such problems before, I imagine everyone was caught out, both clubs and the police.
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Dogs, that would be German on German attack.Curb_It said:
A friend who's been an Arsenal steward for about 13 years I think - said she's never seen anything like it since being there. Sounded quite hairy from some of her comments on her FB page.
"Only just escaped! They smashed through a door from away to home fans and we had to hold it back using table legs through the door handles!"
Reckons the dogs should have been let off to deal with them the way they were acting towards them.1 -
Should I be?Big_Bad_World said:
Are you suggesting otherwise?Cordoban Addick said:
Are you a fan of balanced views?Big_Bad_World said:
I look forward to your balanced view the next time we hit the headlines if only 5 arrests are madePragueAddick said:
OK I take that point, but that wasn't what former Coveredender @Covered End (1StevieG said:Frothing at the mouth because a few thousand away fans managed to get into home areas is quite valid I think. Even though it went off fairly quietly with a few scuffles I doubt that folks with their kids found it any less scary.
) was frothing about. The question I am still not seeing answered in the media is how many of them got in without tickets, and how the hell that happened, if it did. If so, I would have expected a lot more than "five public order arrests". If they nearly all purchased tickets, then its Arsenal who have some questions to answer.
Somehow I think your approach will be very different.0 -
I'll be honest - this is the most disturbing image from last nightJohnBoyUK said:
Sorry Tarquin, do you mind awfully if I finish my Prosciutto & Rocket Artisan Flatbread before complain about the ambience?...Karim_myBagheri said:
thing is arsenal fans are a bit precious... meanwhile the bloke whos filming it is having a fit, crying out "this is the worst I've ever seen it" I expect the next line would of been "oh the humanity" before he faints.oohaahmortimer said:To me looking at some of the videos there was minimal agg for that many lads at an away ground and around town .
Yes there was agg but 20k of fans there's bound to be dicks amongst em but even when there was trouble to me it looked like a few were policing themselves to calm it down .
It didn't look like they were intent on trouble .
They managed to walk down the road without smacking car windows and mirrors off , which is a hard task to do if you're a divvy footy fan.
Where were the running clashes with police / rival fans and chairs being lobbed about that you usually se in town centres .
Contradiction time . Lobbing those barriers was dangerous and ridiculous but it looked from what I saw there was mainly good spirited Germans having a laugh .
Don't think any seasoned footy fan would have felt worried and I'm a proper wimp when it comes to aggro .
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Does Kansas have a lot of Gooners with season tickets?1
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uefa charges;
Cologne;
crowd disturbance
setting off fireworks
throwing objects
multiple acts of damage
Arsenal;
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Why do you ask?Cordoban Addick said:
Should I be?Big_Bad_World said:
Are you suggesting otherwise?Cordoban Addick said:
Are you a fan of balanced views?Big_Bad_World said:
I look forward to your balanced view the next time we hit the headlines if only 5 arrests are madePragueAddick said:
OK I take that point, but that wasn't what former Coveredender @Covered End (1StevieG said:Frothing at the mouth because a few thousand away fans managed to get into home areas is quite valid I think. Even though it went off fairly quietly with a few scuffles I doubt that folks with their kids found it any less scary.
) was frothing about. The question I am still not seeing answered in the media is how many of them got in without tickets, and how the hell that happened, if it did. If so, I would have expected a lot more than "five public order arrests". If they nearly all purchased tickets, then its Arsenal who have some questions to answer.
Somehow I think your approach will be very different.0 -
Just read through the thread. I really don't understand the "if it was us then the press would go nuts" comments. I don't know what they mean.
I've read about this on several news sites and it's been on 5 Live for much of the morning. There's been criticism of Arsenal, touts, Cologne and their fans... what exactly is the point some of you are trying to make here?6 -
Interested to know if you are a fan of balanced views, you don't have to tell me.Big_Bad_World said:
Why do you ask?Cordoban Addick said:
Should I be?Big_Bad_World said:
Are you suggesting otherwise?Cordoban Addick said:
Are you a fan of balanced views?Big_Bad_World said:
I look forward to your balanced view the next time we hit the headlines if only 5 arrests are madePragueAddick said:
OK I take that point, but that wasn't what former Coveredender @Covered End (1StevieG said:Frothing at the mouth because a few thousand away fans managed to get into home areas is quite valid I think. Even though it went off fairly quietly with a few scuffles I doubt that folks with their kids found it any less scary.
) was frothing about. The question I am still not seeing answered in the media is how many of them got in without tickets, and how the hell that happened, if it did. If so, I would have expected a lot more than "five public order arrests". If they nearly all purchased tickets, then its Arsenal who have some questions to answer.
Somehow I think your approach will be very different.0 -
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Probably because their resources are so thinly spread and they are prioritorising trying to stop tube trains getting blown up rather than having to fuck about worrying about grown tits acting up at football.man_at_milletts said:
and coincidentally only 5 arrests. Sounds like our finest were caught out here.letthegoodtimesroll said:
20,000 football fans don't travel from Cologne to London without anybody noticing. Sounds like the Met has fucked up big time.killerandflash said:I can't recollect German fans ever coming over in such numbers, and causing such problems before, I imagine everyone was caught out, both clubs and the police.
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if arsenal would of given a fair allocation 20% wouldn't of seen this bother, some of there fans clearly didn't care about the game.1
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Yes, yes I am. I now look forward to whatever it is you've been dying to dig out or the actual point you've been wanting to make.Cordoban Addick said:
Interested to know if you are a fan of balanced views, you don't have to tell me.Big_Bad_World said:
Why do you ask?Cordoban Addick said:
Should I be?Big_Bad_World said:
Are you suggesting otherwise?Cordoban Addick said:
Are you a fan of balanced views?Big_Bad_World said:
I look forward to your balanced view the next time we hit the headlines if only 5 arrests are madePragueAddick said:
OK I take that point, but that wasn't what former Coveredender @Covered End (1StevieG said:Frothing at the mouth because a few thousand away fans managed to get into home areas is quite valid I think. Even though it went off fairly quietly with a few scuffles I doubt that folks with their kids found it any less scary.
) was frothing about. The question I am still not seeing answered in the media is how many of them got in without tickets, and how the hell that happened, if it did. If so, I would have expected a lot more than "five public order arrests". If they nearly all purchased tickets, then its Arsenal who have some questions to answer.
Somehow I think your approach will be very different.
Fill your boots.0 -
They are only bound to give up 5% of their seating for visiting fans.palarsehater said:if arsenal would of given a fair allocation 20% wouldn't of seen this bother, some of there fans clearly didn't care about the game.
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Also, football clubs aren't too keen on spending their millions paying for the police to help them earn all that cash.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:..
Probably because their resources are so thinly spread and they are prioritorising trying to stop tube trains getting blown up rather than having to fuck about worrying about grown tits acting up at football.man_at_milletts said:
and coincidentally only 5 arrests. Sounds like our finest were caught out here.letthegoodtimesroll said:
20,000 football fans don't travel from Cologne to London without anybody noticing. Sounds like the Met has fucked up big time.killerandflash said:I can't recollect German fans ever coming over in such numbers, and causing such problems before, I imagine everyone was caught out, both clubs and the police.
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Havepalarsehater said:if arsenal would of given a fair allocation 20% wouldn't of seen this bother, some of there fans clearly didn't care about the game.
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I had wondered beforehand how many home fans would have been interested last night anyway, after 20 years in the Champions League, I can't imagine the Europa league being a big attraction,0
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Good to hear it. I will look forward to seeing balanced comments from you in the future then.Big_Bad_World said:
Yes, yes I am. I now look forward to whatever it is you've been dying to dig out or the actual point you've been wanting to make.Cordoban Addick said:
Interested to know if you are a fan of balanced views, you don't have to tell me.Big_Bad_World said:
Why do you ask?Cordoban Addick said:
Should I be?Big_Bad_World said:
Are you suggesting otherwise?Cordoban Addick said:
Are you a fan of balanced views?Big_Bad_World said:
I look forward to your balanced view the next time we hit the headlines if only 5 arrests are madePragueAddick said:
OK I take that point, but that wasn't what former Coveredender @Covered End (1StevieG said:Frothing at the mouth because a few thousand away fans managed to get into home areas is quite valid I think. Even though it went off fairly quietly with a few scuffles I doubt that folks with their kids found it any less scary.
) was frothing about. The question I am still not seeing answered in the media is how many of them got in without tickets, and how the hell that happened, if it did. If so, I would have expected a lot more than "five public order arrests". If they nearly all purchased tickets, then its Arsenal who have some questions to answer.
Somehow I think your approach will be very different.
Fill your boots.
We got there in the end, no need to fill my boots.0 -
So you're condoning throwing bottles around London and letting off flares ?PragueAddick said:From your BBC report @Covered End
"They did throw bottles and let off flares, but there was no significant disorder, police were on scene and there have been no arrests."
You do realise that apart from the flares, the Sint-Truiden police would have made an identical comment when we - you and I - were there in March?
You condone the assaults on the stewards ?
Unbelievable, you seem to often take the side of Europeans over the English.
If English fans were throwing bottles and letting off flares in Prague, you would be fine with that would you ?
NB Charlton fans in Sint-Truiden didn't throw bottles or let off flares.
My God you're insufferable at times.
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One mans balanced is another mans skewed.Cordoban Addick said:
Good to hear it. I will look forward to seeing balanced comments from you in the future then.Big_Bad_World said:
Yes, yes I am. I now look forward to whatever it is you've been dying to dig out or the actual point you've been wanting to make.Cordoban Addick said:
Interested to know if you are a fan of balanced views, you don't have to tell me.Big_Bad_World said:
Why do you ask?Cordoban Addick said:
Should I be?Big_Bad_World said:
Are you suggesting otherwise?Cordoban Addick said:
Are you a fan of balanced views?Big_Bad_World said:
I look forward to your balanced view the next time we hit the headlines if only 5 arrests are madePragueAddick said:
OK I take that point, but that wasn't what former Coveredender @Covered End (1StevieG said:Frothing at the mouth because a few thousand away fans managed to get into home areas is quite valid I think. Even though it went off fairly quietly with a few scuffles I doubt that folks with their kids found it any less scary.
) was frothing about. The question I am still not seeing answered in the media is how many of them got in without tickets, and how the hell that happened, if it did. If so, I would have expected a lot more than "five public order arrests". If they nearly all purchased tickets, then its Arsenal who have some questions to answer.
Somehow I think your approach will be very different.
Fill your boots.
We got there in the end, no need to fill my boots.
We'd have got there even sooner if you hadn't fannied about in saying what you really wanted to say.1 -
You're friend should stop frothing at the mouth and give those lovely Koln flans a nice big hug.Curb_It said:
A friend who's been an Arsenal steward for about 13 years I think - said she's never seen anything like it since being there. Sounded quite hairy from some of her comments on her FB page.
"Only just escaped! They smashed through a door from away to home fans and we had to hold it back using table legs through the door handles!"
Reckons the dogs should have been let off to deal with them the way they were acting towards them. 0 - Sponsored links:
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FYI - 15000 Koln fans applied for Belgrade away tickets. They've been given 2000.
I wouldn't be so worried about the fans over there, more so the police.
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She would have fitted in well with the other female German fans thenCurb_It said:
A friend who's been an Arsenal steward for about 13 years I think - said she's never seen anything like it since being there. Sounded quite hairy from some of her comments on her FB page 2 -
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Havepalarsehater said:if arsenal would of given a fair allocation 20% wouldn't of seen this bother, some of there fans clearly didn't care about the game.
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That's the problem with plastic fans. I support Charlton in the prem, champ, league 1 and whatever league we play in. Even the JPT for goodness sake!killerandflash said:I had wondered beforehand how many home fans would have been interested last night anyway, after 20 years in the Champions League, I can't imagine the Europa league being a big attraction,
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Exactly!! But she is aching too much today to do much frothing now. She's knackered at home resting.Covered End said:
You're friend should stop frothing at the mouth and give those lovely Koln flans a nice big hug.Curb_It said:
A friend who's been an Arsenal steward for about 13 years I think - said she's never seen anything like it since being there. Sounded quite hairy from some of her comments on her FB page.
"Only just escaped! They smashed through a door from away to home fans and we had to hold it back using table legs through the door handles!"
Reckons the dogs should have been let off to deal with them the way they were acting towards them.
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So not balanced then?Big_Bad_World said:
One mans balanced is another mans skewed.Cordoban Addick said:
Good to hear it. I will look forward to seeing balanced comments from you in the future then.Big_Bad_World said:
Yes, yes I am. I now look forward to whatever it is you've been dying to dig out or the actual point you've been wanting to make.Cordoban Addick said:
Interested to know if you are a fan of balanced views, you don't have to tell me.Big_Bad_World said:
Why do you ask?Cordoban Addick said:
Should I be?Big_Bad_World said:
Are you suggesting otherwise?Cordoban Addick said:
Are you a fan of balanced views?Big_Bad_World said:
I look forward to your balanced view the next time we hit the headlines if only 5 arrests are madePragueAddick said:
OK I take that point, but that wasn't what former Coveredender @Covered End (1StevieG said:Frothing at the mouth because a few thousand away fans managed to get into home areas is quite valid I think. Even though it went off fairly quietly with a few scuffles I doubt that folks with their kids found it any less scary.
) was frothing about. The question I am still not seeing answered in the media is how many of them got in without tickets, and how the hell that happened, if it did. If so, I would have expected a lot more than "five public order arrests". If they nearly all purchased tickets, then its Arsenal who have some questions to answer.
Somehow I think your approach will be very different.
Fill your boots.
We got there in the end, no need to fill my boots.
We'd have got there even sooner if you hadn't fannied about in saying what you really wanted to say.
I would have thought you would have enjoyed a pithy conversation, so why rush.0 -
Again, you 'thought' wrong. Becoming somewhat of a habit.Cordoban Addick said:
So not balanced then?Big_Bad_World said:
One mans balanced is another mans skewed.Cordoban Addick said:
Good to hear it. I will look forward to seeing balanced comments from you in the future then.Big_Bad_World said:
Yes, yes I am. I now look forward to whatever it is you've been dying to dig out or the actual point you've been wanting to make.Cordoban Addick said:
Interested to know if you are a fan of balanced views, you don't have to tell me.Big_Bad_World said:
Why do you ask?Cordoban Addick said:
Should I be?Big_Bad_World said:
Are you suggesting otherwise?Cordoban Addick said:
Are you a fan of balanced views?Big_Bad_World said:
I look forward to your balanced view the next time we hit the headlines if only 5 arrests are madePragueAddick said:
OK I take that point, but that wasn't what former Coveredender @Covered End (1StevieG said:Frothing at the mouth because a few thousand away fans managed to get into home areas is quite valid I think. Even though it went off fairly quietly with a few scuffles I doubt that folks with their kids found it any less scary.
) was frothing about. The question I am still not seeing answered in the media is how many of them got in without tickets, and how the hell that happened, if it did. If so, I would have expected a lot more than "five public order arrests". If they nearly all purchased tickets, then its Arsenal who have some questions to answer.
Somehow I think your approach will be very different.
Fill your boots.
We got there in the end, no need to fill my boots.
We'd have got there even sooner if you hadn't fannied about in saying what you really wanted to say.
I would have thought you would have enjoyed a pithy conversation, so why rush.0 -
So I can look forward to both balanced remarks and verbose comments from you in the future then?Big_Bad_World said:
Again, you 'thought' wrong. Becoming somewhat of a habit.Cordoban Addick said:
So not balanced then?Big_Bad_World said:
One mans balanced is another mans skewed.Cordoban Addick said:
Good to hear it. I will look forward to seeing balanced comments from you in the future then.Big_Bad_World said:
Yes, yes I am. I now look forward to whatever it is you've been dying to dig out or the actual point you've been wanting to make.Cordoban Addick said:
Interested to know if you are a fan of balanced views, you don't have to tell me.Big_Bad_World said:
Why do you ask?Cordoban Addick said:
Should I be?Big_Bad_World said:
Are you suggesting otherwise?Cordoban Addick said:
Are you a fan of balanced views?Big_Bad_World said:
I look forward to your balanced view the next time we hit the headlines if only 5 arrests are madePragueAddick said:
OK I take that point, but that wasn't what former Coveredender @Covered End (1StevieG said:Frothing at the mouth because a few thousand away fans managed to get into home areas is quite valid I think. Even though it went off fairly quietly with a few scuffles I doubt that folks with their kids found it any less scary.
) was frothing about. The question I am still not seeing answered in the media is how many of them got in without tickets, and how the hell that happened, if it did. If so, I would have expected a lot more than "five public order arrests". If they nearly all purchased tickets, then its Arsenal who have some questions to answer.
Somehow I think your approach will be very different.
Fill your boots.
We got there in the end, no need to fill my boots.
We'd have got there even sooner if you hadn't fannied about in saying what you really wanted to say.
I would have thought you would have enjoyed a pithy conversation, so why rush.0 -
Did my answer only leave you with the option suggested in your latest retort?Cordoban Addick said:
So I can look forward to both balanced remarks and verbose comments from you in the future then?Big_Bad_World said:
Again, you 'thought' wrong. Becoming somewhat of a habit.Cordoban Addick said:
So not balanced then?Big_Bad_World said:
One mans balanced is another mans skewed.Cordoban Addick said:
Good to hear it. I will look forward to seeing balanced comments from you in the future then.Big_Bad_World said:
Yes, yes I am. I now look forward to whatever it is you've been dying to dig out or the actual point you've been wanting to make.Cordoban Addick said:
Interested to know if you are a fan of balanced views, you don't have to tell me.Big_Bad_World said:
Why do you ask?Cordoban Addick said:
Should I be?Big_Bad_World said:
Are you suggesting otherwise?Cordoban Addick said:
Are you a fan of balanced views?Big_Bad_World said:
I look forward to your balanced view the next time we hit the headlines if only 5 arrests are madePragueAddick said:
OK I take that point, but that wasn't what former Coveredender @Covered End (1StevieG said:Frothing at the mouth because a few thousand away fans managed to get into home areas is quite valid I think. Even though it went off fairly quietly with a few scuffles I doubt that folks with their kids found it any less scary.
) was frothing about. The question I am still not seeing answered in the media is how many of them got in without tickets, and how the hell that happened, if it did. If so, I would have expected a lot more than "five public order arrests". If they nearly all purchased tickets, then its Arsenal who have some questions to answer.
Somehow I think your approach will be very different.
Fill your boots.
We got there in the end, no need to fill my boots.
We'd have got there even sooner if you hadn't fannied about in saying what you really wanted to say.
I would have thought you would have enjoyed a pithy conversation, so why rush.
If not then it seems a bit odd that you'd jump to a singular conclusion.0 -
Aren't Spurs having their own artisan cheese kitchen in their new stadium or something ?JohnBoyUK said:
Sorry Tarquin, do you mind awfully if I finish my Prosciutto & Rocket Artisan Flatbread before complain about the ambience?...Karim_myBagheri said:
thing is arsenal fans are a bit precious... meanwhile the bloke whos filming it is having a fit, crying out "this is the worst I've ever seen it" I expect the next line would of been "oh the humanity" before he faints.oohaahmortimer said:To me looking at some of the videos there was minimal agg for that many lads at an away ground and around town .
Yes there was agg but 20k of fans there's bound to be dicks amongst em but even when there was trouble to me it looked like a few were policing themselves to calm it down .
It didn't look like they were intent on trouble .
They managed to walk down the road without smacking car windows and mirrors off , which is a hard task to do if you're a divvy footy fan.
Where were the running clashes with police / rival fans and chairs being lobbed about that you usually se in town centres .
Contradiction time . Lobbing those barriers was dangerous and ridiculous but it looked from what I saw there was mainly good spirited Germans having a laugh .
Don't think any seasoned footy fan would have felt worried and I'm a proper wimp when it comes to aggro .2
