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Designs for new Valley Gates - Usual regime stuff: good idea ruined by lack of thought and planning

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  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948

    I assume these gates will be on one side of the club shop?

    The problem with gates there, is that on matchdays, they'll be fully open and nobody will see them anyway unless the message is over the top, and not on the opening section, as with the Shankly Gates

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    D. and E. are both like that I think mate.

    I'd choose E. meself
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    I would chose C, but hate the " my only desire" on all of them.

    D and E both have "welcome" which seems a bit incongruous on a locked 15' gate.

    I think painting them red was a good idea. Well done to who ever came up with that!
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,021
    Just looked at the webpage. They cannot even properly align the five letters A-E that label the diagrams. How can they be trusted to design a set of gates.
  • Amateur hour at the asylum
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Stig said:

    Just looked at the webpage. They cannot even properly align the five letters A-E that label the diagrams. How can they be trusted to design a set of gates.

    You ungrateful little shit. You have no comprehension as to what the club has gone through here. The gate maker said he could knock em up for about five grand and would draw up 5 designs for nuffin.

    The club have worked for hours scanning the designs from the back of his fag packet and have coloured them in really nicely. But are you grateful? Oh no, not you. You have to find something to criticise. Something so damm picky. Well thank you very much! This will be the very last time they will bother to consult us again and it's ALL YOUR FAULT!
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,021
    Just looked again. It's not the club's site, but my friends from CAST. Sorry guys.

    #awkward
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,350
    What about a bit of rusty corrugated iron? Served the old Valley well. Chuck a bit of ancient and lethal barbed wire into the equation and VOILA! we have a perfect representation of what these Belgian fucks have done to our football kloob.
  • HarryLime
    HarryLime Posts: 1,295
    To be fair to the club, apart from the fact that they can't assemble a balanced squad during a transfer window (to which I gave up on about 18 months ago) this is the first piece of idiocy I can recall this season, and it's already mid October.
    Anyone know who is "project managing" this, is it Tone?
  • thecat
    thecat Posts: 351
    Are they doing this to increase the gate by 2 (or 12 by their counting)?
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,967
    HarryLime said:

    To be fair to the club, apart from the fact that they can't assemble a balanced squad during a transfer window (to which I gave up on about 18 months ago) this is the first piece of idiocy I can recall this season, and it's already mid October.
    Anyone know who is "project managing" this, is it Tone?

    As Big T was behind the scoreboard fiasco I can only assume so
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  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,698
    Stig said:

    Just looked again. It's not the club's site, but my friends from CAST. Sorry guys.

    #awkward

    Confirms that the decision not to involve the trust in the gate design was the correct one ;)
  • 3G
    3G Posts: 729
    My only desire is that the club does not go ahead with any of these designs. At best, they are cringe and embarrassing
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559

    Call me crazy, but those gates are iconic as it is, they may not be glamorous but those were the ones that were first unlocked - don't take them away.

    agree. We need to chain ourselves to them so they can't take them away.
  • HarryLime
    HarryLime Posts: 1,295
    Charlie has replied to my email:

    Hi,

    Many thanks for your email, we really appreciate the feedback.

    We have had some really useful responses around the design and the wording which will be incorporated to create some final designs for consideration.

    On the request of fans, the process has now been extended with the deadline for feedback now October 20th. We agree that it is important to make sure the gates are right especially given they are to be a permanent feature to pay tribute to the club’s historic return to The Valley.

    Therefore, the designs will be adjusted based on the fan feedback and presented, for review, to a working group of fan representatives ahead of the AFC Wimbledon game on October 28th in a similar process to the kit consultations on this season’s and next season’s kit.

    Thanks again,
    Charlie
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,150
    edited October 2017
    She's replied to mine too:

    Dear Perry,

    Many thanks for your email, we really appreciate the feedback.

    We have had some really useful responses around the design and the wording which will be incorporated to create some final designs for consideration.

    On the request of fans, the process has now been extended with the deadline for feedback now October 20th. We agree that it is important to make sure the gates are right especially given they are to be a permanent feature to pay tribute to the club’s historic return to The Valley.

    Therefore, the designs will be adjusted based on the fan feedback and presented, for review, to a working group of fan representatives ahead of the AFC Wimbledon game on October 28th in a similar process to the kit consultations on this season’s and next season’s kit.

    Thanks again,
    Charlie

    Sounds familiar somehow? :wink:
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,220
    HarryLime said:

    Charlie has replied to my email:

    Hi,

    Many thanks for your email, we really appreciate the feedback.

    We have had some really useful responses around the design and the wording which will be incorporated to create some final designs for consideration.

    On the request of fans, the process has now been extended with the deadline for feedback now October 20th. We agree that it is important to make sure the gates are right especially given they are to be a permanent feature to pay tribute to the club’s historic return to The Valley.

    Therefore, the designs will be adjusted based on the fan feedback and presented, for review, to a working group of fan representatives ahead of the AFC Wimbledon game on October 28th in a similar process to the kit consultations on this season’s and next season’s kit.

    Thanks again,
    Charlie

    Was just about to post the same reply.

    Credit to Charlie (who has taken over as supporter liason now Lisa Squires has left) for replying and to whoever made the decision to have something resembling a proper consultation (see my post above about Hummel).

    It helps to listen.
  • Horsfield9
    Horsfield9 Posts: 3,082
    HarryLime said:

    Charlie has replied to my email:

    Hi,

    Many thanks for your email, we really appreciate the feedback.

    We have had some really useful responses around the design and the wording which will be incorporated to create some final designs for consideration.

    On the request of fans, the process has now been extended with the deadline for feedback now October 20th. We agree that it is important to make sure the gates are right especially given they are to be a permanent feature to pay tribute to the club’s historic return to The Valley.

    Therefore, the designs will be adjusted based on the fan feedback and presented, for review, to a working group of fan representatives ahead of the AFC Wimbledon game on October 28th in a similar process to the kit consultations on this season’s and next season’s kit.

    Thanks again,
    Charlie

    Never mind the gates, when does Charlie put his bins out and how big is his knob ???
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,220

    HarryLime said:

    Charlie has replied to my email:

    Hi,

    Many thanks for your email, we really appreciate the feedback.

    We have had some really useful responses around the design and the wording which will be incorporated to create some final designs for consideration.

    On the request of fans, the process has now been extended with the deadline for feedback now October 20th. We agree that it is important to make sure the gates are right especially given they are to be a permanent feature to pay tribute to the club’s historic return to The Valley.

    Therefore, the designs will be adjusted based on the fan feedback and presented, for review, to a working group of fan representatives ahead of the AFC Wimbledon game on October 28th in a similar process to the kit consultations on this season’s and next season’s kit.

    Thanks again,
    Charlie

    Never mind the gates, when does Charlie put his bins out and how big is his knob ???
    Charlie is a she.
  • HarryLime said:

    Charlie has replied to my email:

    Hi,

    Many thanks for your email, we really appreciate the feedback.

    We have had some really useful responses around the design and the wording which will be incorporated to create some final designs for consideration.

    On the request of fans, the process has now been extended with the deadline for feedback now October 20th. We agree that it is important to make sure the gates are right especially given they are to be a permanent feature to pay tribute to the club’s historic return to The Valley.

    Therefore, the designs will be adjusted based on the fan feedback and presented, for review, to a working group of fan representatives ahead of the AFC Wimbledon game on October 28th in a similar process to the kit consultations on this season’s and next season’s kit.

    Thanks again,
    Charlie

    Never mind the gates, when does Charlie put his bins out and how big is his knob ???
    Charlie is a she.
    in which case she has never put the bins out based on my experience.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,350

    HarryLime said:

    Charlie has replied to my email:

    Hi,

    Many thanks for your email, we really appreciate the feedback.

    We have had some really useful responses around the design and the wording which will be incorporated to create some final designs for consideration.

    On the request of fans, the process has now been extended with the deadline for feedback now October 20th. We agree that it is important to make sure the gates are right especially given they are to be a permanent feature to pay tribute to the club’s historic return to The Valley.

    Therefore, the designs will be adjusted based on the fan feedback and presented, for review, to a working group of fan representatives ahead of the AFC Wimbledon game on October 28th in a similar process to the kit consultations on this season’s and next season’s kit.

    Thanks again,
    Charlie

    Never mind the gates, when does Charlie put his bins out and how big is his knob ???
    Charlie is a she.
    You have to prepare for all eventualities in life. I remember a particular night in the back streets of Naples...
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  • IT_Andy
    IT_Andy Posts: 477
    Well done Henry for bringing this up. It's communication like this that the club are missing.
    At least it has now been accepted that consultation with the fans is a good way forward but ridiculous they didnt think about this in the first place.
    I guess the club will never learn with KM and Tone taking charge.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,220
    IT_Andy said:

    Well done Henry for bringing this up. It's communication like this that the club are missing.
    At least it has now been accepted that consultation with the fans is a good way forward but ridiculous they didnt think about this in the first place.
    I guess the club will never learn with KM and Tone taking charge.

    Credit to the Trust who out it on twitter where I saw it.
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    I wonder if they're thinking in the office "FFS some git has posted this on that Charlton Life website" after all these emails?
  • Hovi's Biscuit
    Hovi's Biscuit Posts: 1,717
    edited October 2017
    Someone told De Kloob that the gates were declining and this is the best they can manage??
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,220
    Now been invited to the consultation on 28/10 as no doubt have other fan groups.

    @nug I'm hoping that you can work up some better designs before 20/10

    Any other comments to forward via the inbox
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    THE VALLEY in the top arch and HOME OF CHARLTON ATHLETIC within the body of the gates.

  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    How about VALLEY FLOYD ROAD in the arch and 1905 on the gates?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,220
    edited October 2017
    Inbox please and better still email @fans@cafc.co.uk
  • With zero expectations I emailed a (somewhat) measured critique of the proffered designs and the quoted timescale. I am pleasantly surprised to report I got a reply thanking me for my contribution and stating that the consultation period has been extended, a bit. Feels like daisy's not got her hands on this one, which is a plus.
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,640
    Fiiish said:

    I wonder if they're thinking in the office "FFS some git has posted this on that Charlton Life website" after all these emails?

    Have a think about the emails Gents.