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  • Oggy Red said:



    And apparently a Charlton Reds and a Charlton United.





    And a Charlton Nil

  • HarryLime
    HarryLime Posts: 1,295
    Oggy Red said:


    Oggy Red said:


    I meant to say, has anybody any info on Charlton Albion?
    They were a CAFC also.

    I wonder if they played out if the Albion pub? Charlton / Woolwich dockyard on the lower road, the pub that’s there now (now closed I think) doesn’t seem old enough, was there a pub there beforehand?

    Good point.

    A lot of the 19th century building around the Woolwich Road suffered bomb damage or was demolished afterwards for slum clearance/road widening.

    Haven't got time to search for it right now - but a good possibility there was an earlier Albion pub there or close by.
    There was definitely and older version of The Albion down in that area although not in the precise location. I have some old maps at home and will look later.
  • Stig said:

    Ooh, it's exciting, this. It's like Fiona Bruce and Philip Mould only better.
    ...

    There's very little that's better than Fiona Bruce and a discussion of team photographs from over a hundred years ago isn't one of them. Well, depending on your point of view, but only one of those has an effect on my libido.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,045
    Red, is this what you're saying:

    Compare Pre War Photos v2

    I do think that's better.

    Oggy, good point about actually having the silverware to hand and your right about two teams rather than one. For the record, if they did have had any trophies it would have been for the previous season, in which case it's Lewisham D2 Winners and Woolwich D2 Winners.
  • I also think the player seated on the left of the front row in both photos is the same player.

    That's the most likely 'same person' out of all the ones proposed so far.
  • Don't know if these have been shown before, so apologies if they have. The training photo had a date of 1939; this sounds about right as my dad (Stan "Ticky" Armitage) is in it (third from front, next to railings, behind Don Welsh and another).

    That photo on the right is in a book I flicked through at W H Smiths a few weeks ago. Something like 'Football then and now', I think.
  • Red_in_SE8
    Red_in_SE8 Posts: 5,961
    Stig said:

    Red, is this what you're saying:

    Compare Pre War Photos v2

    I do think that's better.

    Oggy, good point about actually having the silverware to hand and your right about two teams rather than one. For the record, if they did have had any trophies it would have been for the previous season, in which case it's Lewisham D2 Winners and Woolwich D2 Winners.


    Yes.
  • The old Albion pub was still there in 1962 when I worked at AEI
  • robroy
    robroy Posts: 4,440
    Having looked at the photos, i don't think these are the same people. Most of the eye brows, ear positions (lobes), shoulders and nose bridges are all different.

    However, excellent photos and thank you for all of the added info people.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,811
    edited November 2017

    Stig said:

    Red, is this what you're saying:

    Compare Pre War Photos v2

    I do think that's better.

    Oggy, good point about actually having the silverware to hand and your right about two teams rather than one. For the record, if they did have had any trophies it would have been for the previous season, in which case it's Lewisham D2 Winners and Woolwich D2 Winners.


    Yes.
    I think the bottom pairing could be the same person and the one above that probably not but the other two most definitely not.

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  • In the training photo Bert Johnson is the fair haired guy about 4th from the left in the black top. Has a box ? down by his feet
  • There was also a Charlton Amateurs team that our Charlton regularly beat

    Charlton Amateurs, do you mean SMT?
  • @Red_in_SE8

    You should have gone to specsavers.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,487
    edited December 2017
    Amazing photo.....look at the dirty pile of frozen snow in front of the wall.
    All us little lads wore short trousers back then......freezing cold or not!
    That’s how we won the war!
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,045

    Amazing photo.....look at the dirty pile of frozen snow in front of the wall.
    All us little lads wore short trousers back then......freezing cold or not!
    That’s how we won the war!

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  • That really is an awesome photo,but just wondering how many Bournemouth supporters are in there too...;)
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,696
    I can clearly be seen dead centre of photo
  • I can clearly be seen dead centre of photo
    What are the chances of three very tall people all ending up in the same place?
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    There's one bloke in the pic not wearing a hat.

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  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,368

    There's one bloke in the pic not wearing a hat.

    I believe he got drummed out of the service pretty soon after!

    Great photo, my dad and uncle might be in that.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,958
    edited December 2017

    I can clearly be seen dead
    centre of photo
    That's how I read it at first.

    Glad to know you're still alive and kicking Blackpool!


  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,696
    Oggy Red said:



    I can clearly be seen dead
    centre of photo
    That's how I read it at first.

    Glad to know you're still alive and kicking Blackpool!


    Only just :neutral:
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,958

    Perhaps Elfsborg will give you the kiss of life, while you're waiting for him to buy you a drink?

  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,696
    Oggy Red said:


    Perhaps Elfsborg will give you the kiss of life, while you're waiting for him to buy you a drink?

    He's in Brazil at the moment.
    Looks like it's down to you Oggy mate :blush:
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,958

    I'll definitely buy you a drink the next time we meet up at Chesterfield.
    At Saltergate, I mean ...... on condition Ernie Moss plays for them and Killer Hales scores our winning goal.

    It'll still be quicker than waiting for Elfs. Allegedly.

    ;o)
  • 1939 Valley Training Photo - Think It's Eric Lancelotte third behind Bert Johnson
    Lancelotte was instrumental in Keith Peacock joining Charlton
  • Wow, that floodlight is where I took shelter (behind the concrete pyramid stanction) during the snow blizzard that stopped the game v Southampton in that same year I think?
    Seems like another lifetime. Was just a kid then. Now I'm just a bitter, sour anti-Regime vinegar pisser