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  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195
    edited November 2017
    iaitch said:

    I predict England will be in the Group of Death regardless of who else is in it.

    Because we're so awesome?
  • Start Draw link doesnt work for me. Maybe i have to do my usual IFollow routine, change browser 5 times, clear Cache 3 times on each browser, stand on my head, prah to allah,swear profusely lots of times,go out in the garden and do a rain dance - then do all the above again in the reverse order...and then........it still doesnt work.
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,568
    England, Brazil, Iceland, Morocco... No thank you!

    Remarkably, it has us reaching the quarter finals and going out to Tunisia after beating Poland in the round of 16
  • England, Brazil, Iceland, Morocco... No thank you!

    Remarkably, it has us reaching the quarter finals and going out to Tunisia after beating Poland in the round of 16
    I think Brazil would be the worst draw, as we could then get one of the European teams in pot 3 (and Brazil are better than Argentina!).
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    Belgium, Costa Rica & Japan
  • bellz2002
    bellz2002 Posts: 1,361
    Erm ok. Don't know what they are smoking but...!
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited November 2017
    That Guardian link gave me: Poland, England, Iran, Panama. YES PLEASE!

    Then it says we beat Costa Rica in the last 16 and get knocked out by Portugal in the quarter finals who are then knocked out in the semis by eventual winners France.

    Not sure how much to believe it given that it says:

    image
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited November 2017
    This is fun, the best I've got so far is England getting to the final and losing to Argentina, but with one of the luckiest draws in history.

    Poland, South Korea and Tunisia in the group. Senegal round of 16, Belgium quarter final and Iceland semi final.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467

    SDAddick said:

    Worst for England would probably be:
    Brazil
    England
    Sweden
    Serbia


    There are a lot of teams in pots 3 and 4 that would cause England problems. I'm going with Sweden because their performance against Italy the other night is exactly the type that England struggle against, and Serbia because I think they could be a real sleeper in pot 4.

    Best would probably be:
    Poland
    England
    Iran
    Panama

    Cant happen
    You're right sorry. Replace Sweden with

    That Guardian link gave me: Poland, England, Iran, Panama. YES PLEASE!

    Then it says we beat Costa Rica in the last 16 and get knocked out by Portugal in the quarter finals who are then knocked out in the semis by eventual winners France.

    Not sure how much to believe it given that it says:

    image

    Wouldn't getting knocked out by Portugal in a semi-final be the football tournament equivalent of putting on an old pair of sweatpants that fit just right? That sounds like progress right now.

    Costa Rica have arguably gone backward in the last four years, but they're exactly the type of team I think England would struggle against: physical enough not to be bullied, but prepared to defend deep for 90 minutes and try to hit England on the counter.
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  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    Portugal, Iran, Panama? Yes please. Portugal are underrated as slow starters to tournaments.

    Confused as to how they have Saudi Arabia getting out of a group with France (could easily see them imploding) AND Senegal. Or why they call a group with Brazil, Egypt, Serbia, and Croatia "weak."
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42124234

    "Racking up the miles

    England have a 54% chance of getting a draw that requires more travelling than the approximate 7,100km they covered in exiting the 2014 World Cup in Brazil.

    Thirteen of the 24 possible outcomes open to Gareth Southgate's side will see them clock up even more.

    The nightmare draw? That would be position C3.

    First game in Saransk, then way out east to Yekaterinburg, and finally to the most southerly venue, Sochi. That's a round trip - heading back to their base near St Petersburg after all the games - of around 9,850km.

    There are four other possibilities that all total over 9,000km:

    A4 - Yekaterinburg, Rostov, Samara (about 9,720km)
    F3 - Nizhniy Novgorod, Sochi, Yekaterinburg (about 9,440km)
    C2 - Kazan, Samara, Sochi (about 9,330km)
    H4 - Saransk, Yekaterinburg, Volgograd (about 9,100km)

    The golden ticket?

    Position B3 would see England travel about 3,110km - the least they can hope for.

    That would see them play a first game in St Petersburg (about 100km from where they are staying), followed by matches in Moscow (about an hour's flight) and Kaliningrad (about an hour and a half by plane).

    Only three other draws open to England total less than 5,000km in travelling:

    B4 - St Petersburg, Kazan, Saransk (about 4,860km)
    E3 - Samara, St Petersburg, Nizhniy Novgorod (about 4,910km)
    D4 - Kaliningrad, Volgograd, St Petersburg (about 4,930km)."
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited December 2017
    So avoid Group C... ideally aim for Group B. Even better if we got drawn there with a Poland or Belgium. Even better still if Group A is as weak as expected (it's Group A vs Group B in round of 16).
  • No such problems in Qatar in 2022. A 50p bus ride should get the team from one venue to the next.
  • Ross
    Ross Posts: 4,409

    So excited for the draw tomorrow. Like a little kid on Christmas Eve.

    Always love watching Football Draws... Even when doing them on Football Manager - Think its the suspense of who your team is going to face and the disappointment when you find its another shite side like AFC Wimbledon
    I don’t think they qualified for the World Cup this year....
  • Under Southgate we will be utter shit the group we end up in is irrelevant
  • Under Southgate we will be utter shit the group we end up in is irrelevant

    Standard D, we've under achieved in major tournamentsl finals for 20 years under whoever manage us really.

    98 we were unlucky but not the best team.
    02 we had the best team (IMO) but conditions against us.
    04 Rooney injury killed a massive opportunity
    06 Squad selection killed us

    Since then to put it frankly we have been utter shit at major tournaments.
    Hoping we can over achieve in the summer.
    Can't wait for the draw, roll on 4pm
  • You only get 20 world cups if your lucky mate I have 9 left it’s the hope that kills you

    On that bright note I wish all a merry Xmas
  • Does anyone know the exact time they will be pulling the balls?
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,168
    edited December 2017

    Does anyone know the exact time they will be pulling the balls?

    No, I tend to do it as the mood takes me really
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  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Brazil, England, Costa Rica, Japan
    No thanks
  • Cannot wait for the world cup draw.

    Ideally, I would like at least one derby (Argentina/Germany or Australia), and a Saturday match.

    I reckon we will get Egypt and have to listen to 6 months of everyone creaming over Mo Salah.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,308
    edited December 2017
    Argentina | Iceland (or Egypt) | Australia would be my favourite

    Russia | Costa Rica | Japan is what I reckon we'll get
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited December 2017

    Does anyone know the exact time they will be pulling the balls?

    lol

    5live coverage starts at 15:20 so you don't won't be missing anything if you tune in at 20 past.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbctwo#

    Here we go. Fingers crossed. :-)
  • Watching without sound @ work... everyone in their seats sound bored shitless listening to these two
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited December 2017
    Good point made on the BBC coverage.

    England should hope for a European top seed so they can avoid the likes of Denmark, Sweden or Serbia from the lower pots as there's a maximum of two Euro teams per group. Worst groups could/would involve drawing Argentina or Brazil.
  • Good point made on the BBC coverage.

    England should hope for a European top seed so they can avoid the likes of Denmark, Sweden or Serbia as there's a maximum of two Euro teams per group. Worst groups could/would involve drawing Argentina or Brazil.

    Dunno... Denmark and Sweden dont overly worry me...

    I know the latter beat Italy but they were awful at Euro 2016
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,485
    Forget the draw I wanna hear more about the travel.