KR calls out Roland
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KR's recent attempts to deflect blame for the recent poor form does his prospects for future employment as a football manager no good whatsoever.6
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Meire managed to get a job, football is just a merry-go-round.Red_in_SE8 said:KR's recent attempts to deflect blame for the recent poor form does his prospects for future employment as a football manager no good whatsoever.
Robinson will have no trouble getting another job in League 1. If Roland sacks him, then people just know he's been sacked from a job that nobody could succeed in. If new owners sack him then any prospective employers will know that is the way with a takeover.
None of us really know how the talk is affecting the players, but I do wish Robinson talked less and concentrated more on getting results, starting with a change in formation.4 -
"The owner was very, very good in what he said to me,” he says. “Katrien has been phenomenal in everything I’ve asked. All the things I’d heard about [before I came], haven’t been the case. I think if you asked them both they’d say maybe they underestimated how things worked in England and that’s where things fell down a little bit.”SDAddick said:This thread is a good example that no matter what Robinson does, he is going to be heavily criticized. He really is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
He lost me there & then.
All the things I heard about haven't been the case. FFS.
Don't care how much he spins & talks I hope he goes with the rest of them when the takeover occurs.
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All we’ll and good fans wanting Robinson out but who would you replace him with? In one breath we are moaning that we are sacking managers and the wrong appointments be it they are foreigners then we appoint an English manager with experience of the league and we want him out. Success is not gained overnight and you cannot keep chopping and changing we are a point from the play offs and the majority of the top ten to come to our place14
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I think we could be about to get a whoooooshsuperclive98 said:Oakster said:It's kind of weird - I feel sorry for Robinson as there was absolutely no way he would have known what he was walking into when he jumped at the chance to take the job.
There just weren't any warning signs at all that Duchatalatet & Meire were totally incompetent in terms of running a football club.
They say "Buyer Beware" but in this case how could KR have known what a clusterf*ck this club is?
Remember at the time he gleefully joined he told us...
"The owner was very, very good in what he said to me,” he says. “Katrien has been phenomenal in everything I’ve asked. All the things I’d heard about [before I came], haven’t been the case. I think if you asked them both they’d say maybe they underestimated how things worked in England and that’s where things fell down a little bit.”
Are you having a laugh? "Absolutely no way he would have known what he was walking into.....". What about the evidence of the previous 3 years???0 -
Yes, he knew what he was letting himself in for alright.cafcdave123 said:
Didn't he once comment that we were a basket case of a club whilst still at mkd?JamesSeed said:
Unfortunately he hasn’t spent the last three years on CL reading all about it.superclive98 said:
Are you having a laugh? "Absolutely no way he would have known what he was walking into.....". What about the evidence of the previous 3 years???Oakster said:It's kind of weird - I feel sorry for Robinson as there was absolutely no way he would have known what he was walking into when he jumped at the chance to take the job.
There just weren't any warning signs at all that Duchatalatet & Meire were totally incompetent in terms of running a football club.
They say "Buyer Beware" but in this case how could KR have known what a clusterf*ck this club is?
Remember at the time he gleefully joined he told us...
"The owner was very, very good in what he said to me,” he says. “Katrien has been phenomenal in everything I’ve asked. All the things I’d heard about [before I came], haven’t been the case. I think if you asked them both they’d say maybe they underestimated how things worked in England and that’s where things fell down a little bit.”1 -
Where's CLB74?blackpool72 said:ROLAND OUT
Robinson OUT
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Surprise surprise. Konsa to follow as well probably.AFKABartram said:
Ive now heard something on Holmes potentially going three times today from different anglescafc999 said:KR also said that he wouldn't be suprised if Holmes was sold.
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That takeover needs to happen right now2
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Although still our hardest working player today, I’m sure something has been up with him. Don’t know if it’s the previous injury or if he has been tapped up, but he hasn’t looked as positive.AFKABartram said:
Ive now heard something on Holmes potentially going three times today from different anglescafc999 said:KR also said that he wouldn't be suprised if Holmes was sold.
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AaaaaaaaghOakster said:
"The owner was very, very good in what he said to me,” he says. “Katrien has been phenomenal in everything I’ve asked. All the things I’d heard about [before I came], haven’t been the case. I think if you asked them both they’d say maybe they underestimated how things worked in England and that’s where things fell down a little bit.”SDAddick said:This thread is a good example that no matter what Robinson does, he is going to be heavily criticized. He really is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
He lost me there & then.
All the things I heard about haven't been the case. FFS.
Don't care how much he spins & talks I hope he goes with the rest of them when the takeover occurs.0 -
If you can’t buy players due to the takeover you won’t be selling either as they are assests of the club, and who is to say the new owners will sell them.ElfsborgAddick said:
Surprise surprise. Konsa to follow as well probably.AFKABartram said:
Ive now heard something on Holmes potentially going three times today from different anglescafc999 said:KR also said that he wouldn't be suprised if Holmes was sold.
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Holmes isn’t a Championship player. Well not a good one anyway. He’s not consistent enough. His passing isn’t good enough.22
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I'd imagine that's why some (Konsa, Holmes) look pissed off.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
If you can’t buy players due to the takeover you won’t be selling either as they are assests of the club, and who is to say the new owners will sell them.ElfsborgAddick said:
Surprise surprise. Konsa to follow as well probably.AFKABartram said:
Ive now heard something on Holmes potentially going three times today from different anglescafc999 said:KR also said that he wouldn't be suprised if Holmes was sold.
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Well if that’s the case then more fool them, get your head down keep doing the business and then when it happens then move on, play like a prat and spit your dummy out then you will lose the opportunity to move as and when the takeover happensWeegie Addick said:
I'd imagine that's why some (Konsa, Holmes) look pissed off.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
If you can’t buy players due to the takeover you won’t be selling either as they are assests of the club, and who is to say the new owners will sell them.ElfsborgAddick said:
Surprise surprise. Konsa to follow as well probably.AFKABartram said:
Ive now heard something on Holmes potentially going three times today from different anglescafc999 said:KR also said that he wouldn't be suprised if Holmes was sold.
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Rubbish. Plus Wilder who has been immensely successful seems to think he is.JamesSeed said:Holmes isn’t a Championship player. Well not a good one anyway. He’s not consistent enough. His passing isn’t good enough.
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Maybe he meant agents for himself, looking for a new job, LOL.MrLargo said:
If we're not trading at the moment then what an earth is the point in meeting 4 agents on a Friday evening?!NapaAddick said:
“You're coming in at 8am and not leaving until 9pm. I met four agents last night - it’s just relentless at the moment.
“Everyone who’s phoned me up, I’ve told them we’re not trading at the moment.”2 -
Why would he tell a fan in a car park?0
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To me it seems like we're now at a point where we're whinging when a club employee calls for Roland to leave (allegedly) to Roland's face.
I get that people pay a lot of money to go to matches and that for some people this club has been at the center of their lives for decades and they now can't go, and I don't want to belittle or lose sight of that.
I do think there on some on here for whom hating Roland and the regime and everyone (or almost everyone) who works for the club is a form of competition, and there's sometimes this feeling of one-upmanship over who can be angriest of most miserable.
That's it. I'm going to go back to ignoring football-related threads for 24 hours after games.
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Yeah Sheffield buying him for the quality of his corners.cafcnick1992 said:
Rubbish. Plus Wilder who has been immensely successful seems to think he is.JamesSeed said:Holmes isn’t a Championship player. Well not a good one anyway. He’s not consistent enough. His passing isn’t good enough.
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If Russell Slade can keep getting jobs then KR will have no problems. He will get a pay off from the new owners (if/when they ever take over), blame Roland for the failings here and stroll into another league one/two job pretty easily.Red_in_SE8 said:KR's recent attempts to deflect blame for the recent poor form does his prospects for future employment as a football manager no good whatsoever.
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You missed a bit.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:All we’ll and good fans wanting Robinson out but who would you replace him with? In one breath we are moaning that we are sacking managers and the wrong appointments be it they are foreigners then we appoint an English manager with experience of the league and we want him out. Success is not gained overnight and you cannot keep chopping and changing we are a point from the play offs and the majority of the top ten to come to our place and win
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Why do you think?AddickFC81 said:Why would he tell a fan in a car park?
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And it wasn’t just to one fan.....there were half a dozen or so evidently.JamesSeed said:
Why do you think?AddickFC81 said:Why would he tell a fan in a car park?
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Alex Ferguson was successful but he still bought players that couldn't cut it in the premier league despite doing it in other leagues.cafcnick1992 said:
Rubbish. Plus Wilder who has been immensely successful seems to think he is.JamesSeed said:Holmes isn’t a Championship player. Well not a good one anyway. He’s not consistent enough. His passing isn’t good enough.
If Holmes was a little younger then you could to try and improve his game but how he plays at Charlton is how he will play somewhere else and he's getting sussed out.2 -
Cause KR flashed his lights and he come over?AddickFC81 said:Why would he tell a fan in a car park?
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I heard about this conversation pretty soon after it happened and from the individuals involved and other information I’m confident it’s an accurate account.20
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How else would a new manager be towards his employer?seth plum said:Well if Robbo digs his heels in in some way or another, he at least is showing some gumption after being so fulsome towards the regime when he first arrived.
One not unimaginable scenario is Duchatelet remains, Robinson departs, and Jacko becomes manager.4 -
If I were the person taking over, I would be aware of the whole situation. I would know that for the previous year he had been broadly supportive of his employer, and that a situation had developed where the actions of that employer were making his job neigh on impossible. I would take it as a sign that he was not a fool, which would be something I would like to see in my employees.Garrymanilow said:Quite refreshing to see someone publicly talking shit about Roland, but it's not a great strategy if you want to keep your job under new ownership. 'What's this Karl Robinson like?' 'Well, he's spent the last month telling the fans that the owner is a wanker at every opportunity'. '...Ah.'
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Why would a regular and respected poster suddenly make a story up out of the blue (he's not Donald Trump)? Others have vouched for his integrity, others still have backed up the validity of the story as they heard the same from other sources.AddickFC81 said:Why would he tell a fan in a car park?
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