The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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I’ll discuss this with my financial advisor Napa and get back to you.Henry Irving said:
OK, tell you what. I'll add some debt from my credit card and that will add to the enterprise value for you, deal?ShootersHillGuru said:
I’m sick of being messed around and I’m walking. I’m not being sucked into a bidding war. £1:00 is a generous offer for a club worth 95 pence.JamesSeed said:
Does that include The Valley and SL?SWEnglandAddick said:
I’m willing to go to £3 but I need some backers in my consortium.JamesSeed said:
Sorry, but I can literally double your £1 bid. Bring the club back to the family at last.ShootersHillGuru said:So are we for sale for £1:00 or £55 million?
It’s important I know because I could get this done very quickly.
[cackle]
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I’ll add all my ethereum, but hurry as very soon it’ll be worth less than the £1.0
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Dear Mr Roland.
First let me introduce myself. My name is Will. I am 22 years old and I work as an analyst. I hear you are a big fan of young people that email you with advice and I'm told you value the views of your analysts above all else. So here is my view on what you should do.
I have had my team run complex scenario analysis and I'm afraid the outlook for you is not good. The below summary charts show the main message.
The first chart shows the money you will receive for de cloobe over time. The message is that the longer you hold on to de cloobe the less monies you will receive for it.
The second chart is based on some detailed analysis around running costs and showed that over time the money Mr Roland will be required to put into de cloobe over time will only increase.
Bringing together these two pieces of complex analysis I have created a forecast of the losses to be made by Mr Roland over time. These are shown in the third chart. I'm sorry to say Mr Roland that the story makes grim reading. If you are to sell the club today you will make a loss. However delaying the sale of the club will only increase your losses and these losses continue to grow exponentially over time.
Mr Roland our analysis concludes that the best course of action for you to take is to sell the club immediately in order to ensure losses do not escalate. There is no possible course of action that will allow you to escape without loss. No one will meet your asking price. The value is only going to fall and you will be forced to continue meeting losses. Mr Roland I urge you strongly to heed my advice. My team are well qualified and do not make mistakes.
A full detailed report will be winging its way to your inbox as we speak.
All figures critiqued and signed off by the CBR*
*Canters for Budgetary Responsibility
Yours hatefully,
Canters.58 -
Someone got a seat on the train this morning.68
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Incorrect. But a slow morning at work prompted me to make a point.SuedeAdidas said:Someone got a seat on the train this morning.
Does anyone have an email for Roland? I feel he needs to see this. Or shall I just sent it to everyone at the club in the hope that they pass the message on.0 -
r.duchatelet@melexix.be2
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Revised 'enterprise value' of the Club is now £770
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The only saving grace is RD can't live forever - maybe Roland Jnr won't be as bad?1
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Kim Jong Un followed Kim Jong Il Not sure that worked out any better, despite the son having a better education and having been socialised with more normal types.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:The only saving grace is RD can't live forever - maybe Roland Jnr won't be as bad?
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Okay maybe Roland Junior II will be better...Dazzler21 said:
Kim Jong Un followed Kim Jong Il Not sure that worked out any better, despite the son having a better education and having been socialised with more normal types.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:The only saving grace is RD can't live forever - maybe Roland Jnr won't be as bad?
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What time is KRs press conference today? Will RM accompany him and tell us what we want to hear?0
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And Robinson is still in the dark about the club’s future.
He added: “I still don’t know if the takeover’s going to happen in a week or five months. I heard there are people speaking to the owners but that’s all I know.
“We’re in the dark over that. I’ve been told that’s not my job, my job is to manage the team, and everything above me will take care of itself.
“I’d like to know more, obviously. But maybe with me knowing more, people know how honest I am, I’d just tell you, so that’s probably why they don't tell me!”
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??? ive never blamed anything on protestors - I was at the first few and was supportive of them to start withdaveydanger said:
Even now, as the club is a complete dumpster fire, rudderless and openly selling off our best players with absolutely no interest in making the team a success - some people still find room to apportion blame to protesters and those that oppose the regime.DOUCHER said:Btw - don't care whether RM remains at club or not after takeover - just hope somebody takes over soon with full control of all club assets because this long drawn out war of attrition might suit some but is going to be a disaster for the club
If you can’t see it now, as everything collapses in front of you, you never will.2 -
That much is definitely true!Bubble said:And Robinson is still in the dark about the club’s future.
He added: “I still don’t know if the takeover’s going to happen in a week or five months. I heard there are people speaking to the owners but that’s all I know.
“We’re in the dark over that. I’ve been told that’s not my job, my job is to manage the team, and everything above me will take care of itself.
“I’d like to know more, obviously. But maybe with me knowing more, people know how honest I am, I’d just tell you, so that’s probably why they don't tell me!”7 -
Really ?SoundAsa£ said:
Sorry Dave I have to wooosh you.....I believe Doucher was being somewhat ironic......erm I think!Davidsmith said:
Says who?DOUCHER said:
absolute twaddleDavidsmith said:Some facts to settle the minds.
He cannot keep Ground and Training Ground without writing a cheque for £7mn to buy back charges owned by RM and 6 other Ex Directors.
He doesn’t want to pay them off, therefore buyers are expected to.This is a blockage.
His asking price of £45 to £55mn is ridiculous.
Two buyers are in the open Aussie Group and Donald Muir/ McLeish group, one done DD 3 months ago , one doing it now?
No one will offer more than £25mn up front , so he has to take a deal on his remaining debt and sort out Ex Directors.
Those are all facts.
Unknowns
Is RM involved in both or either bid?
Is Donal Muir working for Roland or does he have a backer?
Are there really 2 or 3 others sniffing around.
What deal will he accept on the Balance of his money going forward?
Discuss.
What is incorrect? Ask your mate RM?
We know who you are and who you represent.
All will be revealed shortly and Roland has about 8 days and counting.0 -
In all seriousness, edit out the mickey taking 'de cloobe' stuff, email it to the mad old cnut inviting his observations and comments and see what happens. roly has form for (with all due respect) employing young chancers with absolutely no background in anything relevant and that's worked really well for him up to now:-cantersaddick said:
Incorrect. But a slow morning at work prompted me to make a point.SuedeAdidas said:Someone got a seat on the train this morning.
Does anyone have an email for Roland? I feel he needs to see this. Or shall I just sent it to everyone at the club in the hope that they pass the message on.
a young lawyer running a double digit millions loss making business in a sector she knows nothing about
a computer game playing youth as international head of scouting
plus himself as overarching coaching and management supremo
they've all worked brilliantly for him, he's clearly bang up for some advice which is rich in enthusiasm
One email and you could end up with a lucrative consultancy and a season ticket on the €urostar, you'll never be short of economical shoe repairs.
I'd do it myself but prolonged exposure to petfood manufacturing fumes near The Thames as a kid has left me with a violent tendency to eviscerate the oldest person in the room if I hear lies told in a low countries accent. I'm quite the medical mystery.17 -
Young chancer I can take. But how dare you suggest that I have no background in anything relevant!!StigThundercock said:
In all seriousness, edit out the mickey taking 'de cloobe' stuff, email it to the mad old cnut inviting his observations and comments and see what happens. roly has form for (with all due respect) employing young chancers with absolutely no background in anything relevant and that's worked really well for him up to now:-cantersaddick said:
Incorrect. But a slow morning at work prompted me to make a point.SuedeAdidas said:Someone got a seat on the train this morning.
Does anyone have an email for Roland? I feel he needs to see this. Or shall I just sent it to everyone at the club in the hope that they pass the message on.
a young lawyer running a double digit millions loss making business in a sector she knows nothing about
a computer game playing youth as international head of scouting
plus himself as overarching coaching and management supremo
they've all worked brilliantly for him, he's clearly bang up for some advice which is rich in enthusiasm
One email and you could end up with a lucrative consultancy and a season ticket on the €urostar, you'll never be short of economical shoe repairs.
I'd do it myself but prolonged exposure to petfood manufacturing fumes near The Thames as a kid has left me with a violent tendency to eviscerate the oldest person in the room if I hear lies told in a low countries accent. I'm quite the medical mystery.1 -
So according to the Mirror, Spurs are worth almost 200m more than Man Utd and not far off double the worth of Arsenal?!!JamesSeed said:According to TransferMarkt website
1 Manchester City £704.25m
2 Chelsea FC £636.08m
3 Manchester United £635.85m
4 Tottenham Hotspur £610.65m
5 Liverpool FC £527.40m
6 Arsenal FC £455.36m
7 Everton FC £301.73m
8 Leicester City £231.30m
9 Southampton FC £209.34m
10 West Ham United £198.00m
11 Crystal Palace £168.30m
12 Stoke City £153.45m
13 Watford FC £148.05m
14 West Bromwich Albion £135.54m
15 Swansea City £134.33m
16 Newcastle United £130.50m
17 AFC Bournemouth £114.30m
18 Burnley FC £109.89m
19 Brighton & Hove Albion £93.96m
20 Huddersfield Town £74.48m
According to the Mirror:
1 Manchester City 1.05bn
2 Tottenham 1.03bn
3 Chelsea 920m
4 Manchester United 810m
5 Liverpool 794m
6 Arsenal 587m
7 Leicester 368m
8 Everton 336m
9 Southampton 316m
10 West Ham 212m
11 Bournemouth 187m
12 Newcastle 174m
13 Crystal Palace 164m
14 Watford 159m
15 Swansea 148m
16 Burnley 140m
17 Stoke 134m
18 Brighton 132m
19 West Brom 121m
20 Huddersfield 111m3 -
Clock's ticking to get this done by the end of the day - anyone else starting to worry??5
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From the OS interview with Robinson today
Takeover talks ongoing
“I’m not sure of on goings regarding the takeover. I’ve seen people be shown round the training ground and the facilities but I’m but unsure on names of consortiums. I know just as much as you do.
“There are still going to be many different obstacles to try and overcome and it’s concerning that the takeover talk is happening in the middle of January, as we need to bring in more players.
“I still don’t know if the takeover is going to happen in a week or five months, we’re in the dark over that.
“My job is to manage the team and everything above me will take care of itself.”0 -
ethereum..... hmmmm.... is that another word I shouldn't google?buckshee said:I’ll add all my ethereum, but hurry as very soon it’ll be worth less than the £1.
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It’s one of those cables for hardwiring your computerArsenetatters said:
ethereum..... hmmmm.... is that another word I shouldn't google?buckshee said:I’ll add all my ethereum, but hurry as very soon it’ll be worth less than the £1.
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I think if I saw "people being shown round the training ground" that as Manager, I might want to introduce myself and find out who they are.Henry Irving said:From the OS interview with Robinson today
Takeover talks ongoing
“I’m not sure of on goings regarding the takeover. I’ve seen people be shown round the training ground and the facilities but I’m but unsure on names of consortiums. I know just as much as you do.
“There are still going to be many different obstacles to try and overcome and it’s concerning that the takeover talk is happening in the middle of January, as we need to bring in more players.
“I still don’t know if the takeover is going to happen in a week or five months, we’re in the dark over that.
“My job is to manage the team and everything above me will take care of itself.”
Not like KR to be shy at coming forward. Particularly as his job may be at risk.
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Sounds to me that he has been told by RM, TR or both to stop making comments on the takeover, and making assumptions to the gathered press.Addickted said:
I think if I saw "people being shown round the training ground" that as Manager, I might want to introduce myself and find out who they are.Henry Irving said:From the OS interview with Robinson today
Takeover talks ongoing
“I’m not sure of on goings regarding the takeover. I’ve seen people be shown round the training ground and the facilities but I’m but unsure on names of consortiums. I know just as much as you do.
“There are still going to be many different obstacles to try and overcome and it’s concerning that the takeover talk is happening in the middle of January, as we need to bring in more players.
“I still don’t know if the takeover is going to happen in a week or five months, we’re in the dark over that.
“My job is to manage the team and everything above me will take care of itself.”
Not like KR to be shy at coming forward. Particularly as his job may be at risk.1 -
Hahaha, I fucking love RobinsonBubble said:And Robinson is still in the dark about the club’s future.
He added: “I still don’t know if the takeover’s going to happen in a week or five months. I heard there are people speaking to the owners but that’s all I know.
“We’re in the dark over that. I’ve been told that’s not my job, my job is to manage the team, and everything above me will take care of itself.
“I’d like to know more, obviously. But maybe with me knowing more, people know how honest I am, I’d just tell you, so that’s probably why they don't tell me!”6 -
Tony Adams addressing the first team squad today.
New director of football so takeover must be close2 -
I believe him too.Pelling1993 said:
Hahaha, I fucking love RobinsonBubble said:And Robinson is still in the dark about the club’s future.
He added: “I still don’t know if the takeover’s going to happen in a week or five months. I heard there are people speaking to the owners but that’s all I know.
“We’re in the dark over that. I’ve been told that’s not my job, my job is to manage the team, and everything above me will take care of itself.
“I’d like to know more, obviously. But maybe with me knowing more, people know how honest I am, I’d just tell you, so that’s probably why they don't tell me!”1 -
Hopefully some more of this https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/605879/Arsenal-Tony-Adams-dad-dancing-Grenada-training-videoHenry Irving said:Tony Adams addressing the first team squad today.
New director of football so takeover must be close0