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  • JiMMy 85 said:

    Agree with Beds on Hostiles. I enjoyed it, I thought the acting was great... but if I wasn't in a screening, I probably would have taken a break and come back to it the next day!

    Also, for a film that wants to show it's characters on an arc of forgiveness and redemption (for being racist), it's remarkably simplistic when it comes to the native American depictions.

    Still, a really good western and well worth a watch.

    I've heard its very gory and that is worrying me about seeing it. How graphic is it?
    Not that gory at all. There is one scalping scene right at the beginning of the film that is a bit gory but that's about it.
    Yeah it’s gritty rather than gory. I don’t remember it being too bad at all, but then again I’ve seen Bone Tomahawk, and once you’ve sat through that, I suspect you can watch anything without your heartrate being much affected.
  • JiMMy 85 said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    Agree with Beds on Hostiles. I enjoyed it, I thought the acting was great... but if I wasn't in a screening, I probably would have taken a break and come back to it the next day!

    Also, for a film that wants to show it's characters on an arc of forgiveness and redemption (for being racist), it's remarkably simplistic when it comes to the native American depictions.

    Still, a really good western and well worth a watch.

    I've heard its very gory and that is worrying me about seeing it. How graphic is it?
    Not that gory at all. There is one scalping scene right at the beginning of the film that is a bit gory but that's about it.
    Yeah it’s gritty rather than gory. I don’t remember it being too bad at all, but then again I’ve seen Bone Tomahawk, and once you’ve sat through that, I suspect you can watch anything without your heartrate being much affected.
    Bone Tomahawk was within a whisker of being switched off - good film but way too much gore. Bits of it resembled a primitive autopsy.
  • Wind River

    Great film. I was attracted by the presence in the directors/writers área of a Hell or High wáter conexión. That was good enough reason to watch, and it was well worth it. as chilly as the Wyoming Winter it depitcs, it's a pólice thriller. High on tensio, well written, casted and acted. Having said that, it was also grim, and to be honest, I don't know if I would want to go through it again. But not bloody or messy - there was just the storyline which took you to places you may not really want to visit.

    8.5/10
  • Nadou said:

    stonemuse said:

    Watched the 1958 Dunkirk last night. Good film and interesting to see the number of scenes retained in the latest version. Obviously they are both based on the same event so there is a kind of inevitability to this.

    Well directed, not surprisingly, by Michael Balcon and a great addition to the excellent Ealing Films portfolio.

    It was directed by Leslie Norman.

    Watched " The Man with the Iron Heart" on netflix tonight.

    Very decent film & worth a watch although Mr F is convinced it's a remake.

    Is he thinking of Antrophoid (sp) which was based on the same story from memory.
    Think he was remembering "Operation Daybreak" although we both recalled the publicity around "Anthropoid".
  • Just back from 3 Billboards.

    Best film I've seen since Manchester by the Sea. Solid 9/10. A film that has just about everything, is unpredictable and totally absorbing.
  • edited January 2018
    Movies of 2017 for me:

    Death of Stalin
    Film Stars don't die in Liverpool
    Disaster Artist
    Battle of the Sexes

    Best family movie was the new Jumanji.

    Just saw Darkest Hour, and despite the historical inaccuracies, thought it was excellent.
  • Molly's Game 7/10 - found the start over long and indulgent but overall v enjoyable and remarkably true to the real story from reading up on it after.

    Three Billboards 9/10 - one of the best films I've seen for a long time - great performances and excellent story with perfect balance of laughter, tears and horror. Also a refreshing change to have straight line chronology!

    Agree about Three Billboards. At least 2 Oscars I would think.
  • Just sat through Kingsman 2.

    It's so badly plotted I am quite astonished. The Colin Firth stuff is such a pointless distraction. Julianne Moore's villain is woeful, she appears to have been on set for a couple of days and shot all her scenes in one location. She lacks any threat, cos when she does do bad things, it's in a pantomime villain way. Which is in keeping with the previous movie, but the bloodless violence makes it seem too childish.

    Quite why Halle Berry is in it I don't know, and one of the more interesting characters, Channing Tatum's Whiskey, disappears for a huge chunk of the film.

    The taxi fight was the best thing, and that happens at the start. You'll lose nothing if you press stop there!

    2/5
  • JiMMy 85 said:

    Just sat through Kingsman 2.

    It's so badly plotted I am quite astonished. The Colin Firth stuff is such a pointless distraction. Julianne Moore's villain is woeful, she appears to have been on set for a couple of days and shot all her scenes in one location. She lacks any threat, cos when she does do bad things, it's in a pantomime villain way. Which is in keeping with the previous movie, but the bloodless violence makes it seem too childish.

    Quite why Halle Berry is in it I don't know, and one of the more interesting characters, Channing Tatum's Whiskey, disappears for a huge chunk of the film.

    The taxi fight was the best thing, and that happens at the start. You'll lose nothing if you press stop there!

    2/5

    It is an entertaining stupid movie but yeah the villain was awful and as you point out the big problem was introducing Tatum's character who the trailers seemed to emphasise as a big main character and he is almost immediately put in a coma, to be replaced by the bloke from Game of Thrones.

    The final fight scene was pretty good I thought and Elton John was funny. But yeah definitely felt like a sequel botch job. Also Mark Strong's Country Roads was brilliant.
  • edited January 2018
    Fiiish said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    Just sat through Kingsman 2.

    It's so badly plotted I am quite astonished. The Colin Firth stuff is such a pointless distraction. Julianne Moore's villain is woeful, she appears to have been on set for a couple of days and shot all her scenes in one location. She lacks any threat, cos when she does do bad things, it's in a pantomime villain way. Which is in keeping with the previous movie, but the bloodless violence makes it seem too childish.

    Quite why Halle Berry is in it I don't know, and one of the more interesting characters, Channing Tatum's Whiskey, disappears for a huge chunk of the film.

    The taxi fight was the best thing, and that happens at the start. You'll lose nothing if you press stop there!

    2/5

    It is an entertaining stupid movie but yeah the villain was awful and as you point out the big problem was introducing Tatum's character who the trailers seemed to emphasise as a big main character and he is almost immediately put in a coma, to be replaced by the bloke from Game of Thrones.

    The final fight scene was pretty good I thought and Elton John was funny. But yeah definitely felt like a sequel botch job. Also Mark Strong's Country Roads was brilliant.
    Yeah Elton John, that was whacky and it worked really well. I know Pedro Pascal (who I love in Thrones and Narcos) doesn't naturally have a Spanish accent, but his Texan seemed ridiculous to me.

    I think I have a problem with this one because it had all the talent it needed to be a decent movie, apart from perhaps the writer (edit: just realised Vaughn wrote it with Jane Goldman again, so it's quite surprising they messed it up). It could so easily have been a solid continuation in the franchise. Instead, I wonder where the hell they can take it now without just repeating themselves over and over.
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  • Watched Darkest Hour last night. Gary Oldman is brillant and worth watching.
  • johnny73 said:

    Nadou said:

    stonemuse said:

    Watched the 1958 Dunkirk last night. Good film and interesting to see the number of scenes retained in the latest version. Obviously they are both based on the same event so there is a kind of inevitability to this.

    Well directed, not surprisingly, by Michael Balcon and a great addition to the excellent Ealing Films portfolio.

    It was directed by Leslie Norman.

    Watched " The Man with the Iron Heart" on netflix tonight.

    Very decent film & worth a watch although Mr F is convinced it's a remake.

    Is he thinking of Antrophoid (sp) which was based on the same story from memory.
    Anthropoid is told in a similar way to the mid seventies version called Operation Daybreak. Linear and just from the perspective of the allies. TMWTIH also provides backstory of Heydrich and his family. Both new films are good but not great.
    Years ago, well before Operation Daybreak came out, I read a book on the Heydrich operation. I can’t remember the title but it was very well written and superior to watching the film.
  • edited January 2018
    RWP

    Darkest Hour

    I thought this was excellent. Wasn't sure about Oldman for the first five minutes, but in the end thought his performance was superb.
    I'm aware that there are some factual inaccuracies (the tube journey for example), but this isn't a historical document, and it's not claiming to be definitive, so I wasn't too worried.
    Movie highlights how close we were to holding 'peace talks' (surrender).

    8/10
  • JamesSeed said:

    RWP

    Darkest Hour

    I thought this was excellent. Wasn't sure about Oldman for the first five minutes, but in the end thought his performance was superb.
    I'm aware that there are some factual inaccuracies (the tube journey for example), but this isn't a historical document, and it's not claiming to be definitive, so I wasn't too worried.
    Movie highlights how close we were to holding 'peace talks' (surrender).

    8/10

    Really enjoyed this and Gary Oldman was fantastic. But, for me, the tube journey scene was so pivotal that it did disappoint me to learn it wasn't true.

    But Hollywood dollars speak loudest. Just taints the authenticity somewhat.

  • JiMMy 85 said:

    Fiiish said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    Just sat through Kingsman 2.

    It's so badly plotted I am quite astonished. The Colin Firth stuff is such a pointless distraction. Julianne Moore's villain is woeful, she appears to have been on set for a couple of days and shot all her scenes in one location. She lacks any threat, cos when she does do bad things, it's in a pantomime villain way. Which is in keeping with the previous movie, but the bloodless violence makes it seem too childish.

    Quite why Halle Berry is in it I don't know, and one of the more interesting characters, Channing Tatum's Whiskey, disappears for a huge chunk of the film.

    The taxi fight was the best thing, and that happens at the start. You'll lose nothing if you press stop there!

    2/5

    It is an entertaining stupid movie but yeah the villain was awful and as you point out the big problem was introducing Tatum's character who the trailers seemed to emphasise as a big main character and he is almost immediately put in a coma, to be replaced by the bloke from Game of Thrones.

    The final fight scene was pretty good I thought and Elton John was funny. But yeah definitely felt like a sequel botch job. Also Mark Strong's Country Roads was brilliant.
    Yeah Elton John, that was whacky and it worked really well. I know Pedro Pascal (who I love in Thrones and Narcos) doesn't naturally have a Spanish accent, but his Texan seemed ridiculous to me.

    I think I have a problem with this one because it had all the talent it needed to be a decent movie, apart from perhaps the writer (edit: just realised Vaughn wrote it with Jane Goldman again, so it's quite surprising they messed it up). It could so easily have been a solid continuation in the franchise. Instead, I wonder where the hell they can take it now without just repeating themselves over and over.
    Was I being too kind by giving it a 7?

    Having had a few days my resentment has come out. I am annoyed they tainted the first film with this sequel. The first one was everything I want from an action film this one I can't help but feel let down by for all the reasons outlined by me, you and fish
  • TELTEL
    edited January 2018
    JiMMy 85 said:

    Just sat through Kingsman 2.

    It's so badly plotted I am quite astonished. The Colin Firth stuff is such a pointless distraction. Julianne Moore's villain is woeful, she appears to have been on set for a couple of days and shot all her scenes in one location. She lacks any threat, cos when she does do bad things, it's in a pantomime villain way. Which is in keeping with the previous movie, but the bloodless violence makes it seem too childish.

    Quite why Halle Berry is in it I don't know, and one of the more interesting characters, Channing Tatum's Whiskey, disappears for a huge chunk of the film.

    The taxi fight was the best thing, and that happens at the start. You'll lose nothing if you press stop there!

    2/5

    As I posted previously, totally agree, waste of space after the surprisingly excellent first episode.
  • Three Billboards. Odd film, being funny, sad and a bit tragic at times. Hard to watch in places, and personally, I didnt like the ending. Good acting pretty much throughout (Especially Woody's character) but I thought Abbie Cornish was miss casted....7/10
  • TEL said:

    Three Billboards. Odd film, being funny, sad and a bit tragic at times. Hard to watch in places, and personally, I didnt like the ending. Good acting pretty much throughout (Especially Woody's character) but I thought Abbie Cornish was miss casted....7/10

    Really enjoyed the film but have to agree Abbie Cornish seemed out of place. Sam Rockwell and Frances McDormand were outstanding.
    A very dark film full of dysfunctional characters and well worth watching. 8/10

    Also saw Molly's Game which was very entertaining and slick but it was hard to care about any of the characters. Jessica Chastain was good but no other performance really stood out for me. 6.5/10
  • Just saw Three Billboards - I thought it was great. Taking me a while to figure out what it was all about, but I think I get it. I think. Although I don't get the issue with Abbie Cornish, I don't know the woman and took the character to be perfectly well cast (I actually thought it was Melissa George at one point!).

    The ending is tricky, but I was expecting something like that, and I'm happy to let that sink in and figure it out. I guess it was about the journey, rather than the destination, in a couple of ways. Hard to say without getting spoilery. Either way, I look forward to someone explaining it to me!!
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  • Wind River


    Wind River is a film that seemed to pass everyone by when it got it's theatrical release back in September . I'm not sure if that's because it is a Weinstein film and Harvey had a little bit more on his plate than promoting it ?!
    It's also won awards for the most overlooked film of 2017 so I fully expect it to be talked about more now it has been released for home viewing.
    It's the story of a ranger who discovers the frozen body of a young Native American woman in an Indian Reservation. She turns out to be the best friend of his teenage daughter, who died a few years earlier under mysterious circumstances. Although the tribal authorities get involved in the investigation, the FBI also sends in rookie agent to investigate.

    This is the second film in a row I have watched that involves Native Americans dealing with death and the grief that comes with it ( the other was Hostiles ). This is the better film of the two in my opinion.
    It's very atmospheric and you really do feel the harshness of the environment these people have to deal with.
    This is probably Jeremy Renner's best performance to date as the dad who is still dealing with the death of his daughter but I was not totally convinced that Elizabeth Olsen was the best choice for an FBI agent.
    Overall I really liked this and I recommend it if you haven't seen it yet.


    8 out of 10





    https://youtu.be/s7WuKdVhrmA
  • Cheers @Bedsaddick. I had this on my watch list but it disappeared from my local Picturehouse in a flash.
    Will make sure I catch up with it on your recommendation.


  • Wind River


    Wind River is a film that seemed to pass everyone by when it got it's theatrical release back in September . I'm not sure if that's because it is a Weinstein film and Harvey had a little bit more on his plate than promoting it ?!
    It's also won awards for the most overlooked film of 2017 so I fully expect it to be talked about more now it has been released for home viewing.
    It's the story of a ranger who discovers the frozen body of a young Native American woman in an Indian Reservation. She turns out to be the best friend of his teenage daughter, who died a few years earlier under mysterious circumstances. Although the tribal authorities get involved in the investigation, the FBI also sends in rookie agent to investigate.

    This is the second film in a row I have watched that involves Native Americans dealing with death and the grief that comes with it ( the other was Hostiles ). This is the better film of the two in my opinion.
    It's very atmospheric and you really do feel the harshness of the environment these people have to deal with.
    This is probably Jeremy Renner's best performance to date as the dad who is still dealing with the death of his daughter but I was not totally convinced that Elizabeth Olsen was the best choice for an FBI agent.
    Overall I really liked this and I recommend it if you haven't seen it yet.


    8 out of 10





    https://youtu.be/s7WuKdVhrmA

    I really appreciate your film reviews. You and Jimmy85 seem to mostly view stuff the same as me and form similar opinions.

    As soon as I read about Wind River it ticked a couple of boxes in my head. I've been told it's got a similar feel to Hell or High water which I thought was brilliant. Once it appears on digital download if it hasn't already I will be watching this


  • Wind River


    Wind River is a film that seemed to pass everyone by when it got it's theatrical release back in September . I'm not sure if that's because it is a Weinstein film and Harvey had a little bit more on his plate than promoting it ?!
    It's also won awards for the most overlooked film of 2017 so I fully expect it to be talked about more now it has been released for home viewing.
    It's the story of a ranger who discovers the frozen body of a young Native American woman in an Indian Reservation. She turns out to be the best friend of his teenage daughter, who died a few years earlier under mysterious circumstances. Although the tribal authorities get involved in the investigation, the FBI also sends in rookie agent to investigate.

    This is the second film in a row I have watched that involves Native Americans dealing with death and the grief that comes with it ( the other was Hostiles ). This is the better film of the two in my opinion.
    It's very atmospheric and you really do feel the harshness of the environment these people have to deal with.
    This is probably Jeremy Renner's best performance to date as the dad who is still dealing with the death of his daughter but I was not totally convinced that Elizabeth Olsen was the best choice for an FBI agent.
    Overall I really liked this and I recommend it if you haven't seen it yet.


    8 out of 10





    https://youtu.be/s7WuKdVhrmA

    Saw this at the cinema - very well acted and definitely got over how harsh the environment is. A very troubling story so can understand why it had limited box office appeal.

    I thought Elisabeth Olsen suited the role of an agent who was out of her depth - it got over the point of how the FBI viewed the investigation.
  • Trafficked.
    Very powerful film about girls trafficked into the sex industry, found myself hating any of the male cast.

  • Tried to watch "The Serious Man" tonight - an old Coen brothers film. But gave up as it was really dull. Maybe funnier if you are more connected to Jewish culture? Should I have persevered?
  • T_C_E said:

    Trafficked.
    Very powerful film about girls trafficked into the sex industry, found myself hating any of the male cast.

    Will look out for this one.
  • T_C_E said:

    Trafficked.
    Very powerful film about girls trafficked into the sex industry, found myself hating any of the male cast.

    Where did you see this @T_C_E?
  • It's available on a foreign stream.
  • Saw Darkest Hour on Friday. Thought it was excellent, hope Oldman gets the Oscar for best actor. Two disappointments were the Tube scene, which was cringe inducing, and discovering the typist wasn't Gemma Arterton!
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