The influence of the EU on Britain.
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Really enjoy reading this thread to keep up to date with what's going on but people should remember that this person's purpose is to close it down and stop debate, so best to ignore. Hopefully the interesting Brexiters will start contributing again as they actually contribute a lot to it and at its best is what's great about this site: people with diverse opinions, lives and locations but with our club in common.
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You comment on my world when you don't know anything about me but post you do, expect the same.PragueAddick said:
?????Chippycafc said:
Mind... I could always be like the algarves of this world and contribute nothing but expect a say.Algarveaddick said:.
Unfortunately the Chippy's of this world are far more prevalent than the Stonemuses mate. I don't agree with all of it either, but the frustration he feels resonates.stonemuse said:
Bit too much of a rant and the below is incorrect, at least from my perspective.Algarveaddick said:
I have outlined previously that there are circumstances which would persuade me to change my mind. Plus I do care, very much so. He is the one who sounds intransigent.
The problem, I guess, is that there's no arguing with you. No convincing to be done. You've heard the arguments, and the competing facts, and you don't care anymore.
I don't agree that immigrants drive down wages either - greedy bosses do that...
He was a frigging Valley Party candidate, FFS
you and I would never have crossed paths if it wasn't for him and the other 59
Oh, hang on, that means you are all Algarve's fault....0 -
Well that's good going.Chippycafc said:
Don't tell lies... It was brought up here last year by the usual poster who posted a link to it, you never knew.... There will be no impact as there will be continue to be cross country co-operartion as there always will be, just like there will be in thermodynamic and laser technologies which as we are world leaders and the other european states feed and happily feed of our knowledge. As usual remoaner, no balanced view.seth plum said:
I knew that the agency was in charge of monitoring and approving the standards of medicines in order to be approved for EU wide use, then again according to what you write you knew I knew that. Anyway I didn't ask if agencies had moved about before, but what is going to be the impact of your decision to move the agency from London to Amsterdam, for medicines and new treatments as they emerge both in the UK and the rest of the EU.Chippycafc said:
No when did you find that out. You just googled it..... So have agencies never moved about before. They just started on june 24th last year. In the light of intelligent conversation, can you enlighten me when you knew about this agency before. We both know that answer...seth plum said:
I am flattered that you might think I have any mates at all, by contrast you are able to speak for the whole world as in 'nobody'.Chippycafc said:
If you never mention it again... Cos nobody cares. Btw even your mates here don't give a toss either.seth plum said:
How might the Ireland crap be entertaining for you?Chippycafc said:
After you but no more boring ireland crap please.seth plum said:
Go for it.Chippycafc said:
Mountain of evidence from the guardian...where's the intelligence based argument coming from. Like an old record going round and round.Red_in_SE8 said:
This seems to be the only tactic deployed by the Brexiteers over the last 6 months. Constantly whinge about being called nasty names! What about presenting intelligent fact based arguments to contest the mountain of evidence that has emerged since the referendum proving that Brexit will be a complete disaster for the UK for generations to come?Big_Bad_World said:
Don't forget racist, bigoted, uneducated, ill informed, xenophobic, fiscally challenged, little Englander, closed minded, selfish and youth future ruining arseholes.Red_in_SE8 said:
You are in for a frustrating eighteen months if you think people are going to stop pointing out the sheer moronic stupidity of the Brexit vote on this thread!Chippycafc said:
This was almost on page 3, shame someone has to raise their head and spoil it. Still nothing like a good old whinge.Algarveaddick said:
And me. And anyone else, whether they are quitter or remainer, who can read.Chippycafc said:
Whose we, you and fiish.Chizz said:
This is tautology, chippy mate. We already know you don't care about facts.Chippycafc said:
Don't care. 1 was enough. As you know.Chizz said:
A couple of million in an electorate of over 46 million would, indeed, be a scrape. But, of course, it was substantially less than that. As you know.Chippycafc said:
If a couple of million is a scrape, wouldn't mind having a scrape or two in my bank.Chizz said:
Yep. That's pretty much the level of debate that convinced sufficient people to scrape the initial referendum win.Chippycafc said:
Great news, they will then be able to turn back all those undesirables before they get to Calais as they will able to see them miles from that area. No doubt the French will only put in windows looking North. We can then get our £44million back.Chizz said:Meanwhile, a huge post-Brexit boost has been announced. Seven - yes, seven! - skyscrapers are planned. And this could mean big contracts for British construction firms.
Big post-Brexit boost: seven new skyscrapers planned.
Only one, slight snag...
This is a nice piece - fairly simplistic.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/howard-aiken/youre-not-hearing-what-im-saying/10160043548015691/
And why not?
You won the referendum vote, and whatever follows is completely down to you, so in that spirit, and in the spirit of what you call intelligence based argument, could you explain the impact of your decision to relocate the European Medicines Agency to Amsterdam (don't worry, Amsterdam is not in Ireland)?
When you explain your reasoning and the assumed impact, then we might be able to have an intelligence based argument that you seem to crave.
You call me a liar with no evidence to support you. I knew about the medicine issue because of direct correspondence with Heidi Alexander my local MP as she has made it one of her special concerns. Nothing to do with any poster posting last year, this year or the year before.
You are very quick to accuse me of telling lies, is that one of the side effects of being a winner?
How did you plan for cross country co-operation before you voted for brexit, did you plan to have the agency move away from London as part of the 'I know what I was voting for' scenario.
Let me ask you this about timing.
You have prepared for this particular body to move to Amsterdam and continue it's work post brexit on behalf of the EU. If the EU approve a medicine or treatment, or the myriad of other issues that come from it's work, what do you plan to be the time frame for accepting that EU work lock stock and barrel into the UK medicines system? How will you ensure the EU reaches the new UK standards that you will draw up?1 -
Here's a question that's aimed mainly at the Brexiters, but of course, everyone is welcome to express a view.
Do you expect negotiations to be complete by the end of March next year?
This seems to be the latest rift within Cabinet. Where Rees Mogg and others expect everything done and dusted by the March 2019 date and a short period to follow merely to prevent the cliff edge. Whereas others seem to assume that the negotiations will continue beyond March 2019, perhaps for years, while we hope to complete an advantageous set of negotiations. During this period, however, we will need to adhere to EU regulations, be subject to the European Court of Justice, be unable to influence laws, but be required to continue to make financial contributions.
So, Leave voters and others: when do you expect the negotiations to be complete? Before or after the end March date? Or, indeed, never?1 -
Yoda?Chippycafc said:
You comment on my world when you don't know anything about me but post you do, expect the same.PragueAddick said:
?????Chippycafc said:
Mind... I could always be like the algarves of this world and contribute nothing but expect a say.Algarveaddick said:.
Unfortunately the Chippy's of this world are far more prevalent than the Stonemuses mate. I don't agree with all of it either, but the frustration he feels resonates.stonemuse said:
Bit too much of a rant and the below is incorrect, at least from my perspective.Algarveaddick said:
I have outlined previously that there are circumstances which would persuade me to change my mind. Plus I do care, very much so. He is the one who sounds intransigent.
The problem, I guess, is that there's no arguing with you. No convincing to be done. You've heard the arguments, and the competing facts, and you don't care anymore.
I don't agree that immigrants drive down wages either - greedy bosses do that...
He was a frigging Valley Party candidate, FFS
you and I would never have crossed paths if it wasn't for him and the other 59
Oh, hang on, that means you are all Algarve's fault....
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No it isn't there are no balanced views, you have one poster posing as two even answering his own posts, another only posting links from remain papers. Two that only post about ireland and asking questions that are soCharltonMadrid said:Really enjoy reading this thread to keep up to date with what's going on but people should remember that this person's purpose is to close it down and stop debate, so best to ignore. Hopefully the interesting Brexiters will start contributing again as they actually contribute a lot to it and at its best is what's great about this site: people with diverse opinions, lives and locations but with our club in common.
You voted remain where do you think the new laser technology center should be... You did know about it didn't you. After all you voted remainseth plum said:
Well that's good going.Chippycafc said:
Don't tell lies... It was brought up here last year by the usual poster who posted a link to it, you never knew.... There will be no impact as there will be continue to be cross country co-operartion as there always will be, just like there will be in thermodynamic and laser technologies which as we are world leaders and the other european states feed and happily feed of our knowledge. As usual remoaner, no balanced view.seth plum said:
I knew that the agency was in charge of monitoring and approving the standards of medicines in order to be approved for EU wide use, then again according to what you write you knew I knew that. Anyway I didn't ask if agencies had moved about before, but what is going to be the impact of your decision to move the agency from London to Amsterdam, for medicines and new treatments as they emerge both in the UK and the rest of the EU.Chippycafc said:
No when did you find that out. You just googled it..... So have agencies never moved about before. They just started on june 24th last year. In the light of intelligent conversation, can you enlighten me when you knew about this agency before. We both know that answer...seth plum said:
I am flattered that you might think I have any mates at all, by contrast you are able to speak for the whole world as in 'nobody'.Chippycafc said:
If you never mention it again... Cos nobody cares. Btw even your mates here don't give a toss either.seth plum said:
How might the Ireland crap be entertaining for you?Chippycafc said:
After you but no more boring ireland crap please.seth plum said:
Go for it.Chippycafc said:
Mountain of evidence from the guardian...where's the intelligence based argument coming from. Like an old record going round and round.Red_in_SE8 said:
This seems to be the only tactic deployed by the Brexiteers over the last 6 months. Constantly whinge about being called nasty names! What about presenting intelligent fact based arguments to contest the mountain of evidence that has emerged since the referendum proving that Brexit will be a complete disaster for the UK for generations to come?Big_Bad_World said:
Don't forget racist, bigoted, uneducated, ill informed, xenophobic, fiscally challenged, little Englander, closed minded, selfish and youth future ruining arseholes.Red_in_SE8 said:
You are in for a frustrating eighteen months if you think people are going to stop pointing out the sheer moronic stupidity of the Brexit vote on this thread!Chippycafc said:
This was almost on page 3, shame someone has to raise their head and spoil it. Still nothing like a good old whinge.Algarveaddick said:
And me. And anyone else, whether they are quitter or remainer, who can read.Chippycafc said:
Whose we, you and fiish.Chizz said:
This is tautology, chippy mate. We already know you don't care about facts.Chippycafc said:
Don't care. 1 was enough. As you know.Chizz said:
A couple of million in an electorate of over 46 million would, indeed, be a scrape. But, of course, it was substantially less than that. As you know.Chippycafc said:
If a couple of million is a scrape, wouldn't mind having a scrape or two in my bank.Chizz said:
Yep. That's pretty much the level of debate that convinced sufficient people to scrape the initial referendum win.Chippycafc said:
Great news, they will then be able to turn back all those undesirables before they get to Calais as they will able to see them miles from that area. No doubt the French will only put in windows looking North. We can then get our £44million back.Chizz said:Meanwhile, a huge post-Brexit boost has been announced. Seven - yes, seven! - skyscrapers are planned. And this could mean big contracts for British construction firms.
Big post-Brexit boost: seven new skyscrapers planned.
Only one, slight snag...
This is a nice piece - fairly simplistic.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/howard-aiken/youre-not-hearing-what-im-saying/10160043548015691/
And why not?
You won the referendum vote, and whatever follows is completely down to you, so in that spirit, and in the spirit of what you call intelligence based argument, could you explain the impact of your decision to relocate the European Medicines Agency to Amsterdam (don't worry, Amsterdam is not in Ireland)?
When you explain your reasoning and the assumed impact, then we might be able to have an intelligence based argument that you seem to crave.
You call me a liar with no evidence to support you. I knew about the medicine issue because of direct correspondence with Heidi Alexander my local MP as she has made it one of her special concerns. Nothing to do with any poster posting last year, this year or the year before.
You are very quick to accuse me of telling lies, is that one of the side effects of being a winner?
How did you plan for cross country co-operation before you voted for brexit, did you plan to have the agency move away from London as part of the 'I know what I was voting for' scenario.
Let me ask you this about timing.
You have prepared for this particular body to move to Amsterdam and continue it's work post brexit on behalf of the EU. If the EU approve a medicine or treatment, or the myriad of other issues that come from it's work, what do you plan to be the time frame for accepting that EU work lock stock and barrel into the UK medicines system? How will you ensure the EU reaches the new UK standards that you will draw up?0 -
I know nothing about any laser technology centre, however before the brexit vote one of my many pleasures contemplating the EU was how much so many countries were cooperating with regard to technology, medicines, security, academia, languages, foreign aid and the like. I voted assuming that all of that cooperation would continue, with a general aspiration to make improvements based on shared experiences.Chippycafc said:
No it isn't there are no balanced views, you have one poster posing as two even answering his own posts, another only posting links from remain papers. Two that only post about ireland and asking questions that are soCharltonMadrid said:Really enjoy reading this thread to keep up to date with what's going on but people should remember that this person's purpose is to close it down and stop debate, so best to ignore. Hopefully the interesting Brexiters will start contributing again as they actually contribute a lot to it and at its best is what's great about this site: people with diverse opinions, lives and locations but with our club in common.
You voted remain where do you think the new laser technology center should be... You did know about it didn't you. After all you voted remainseth plum said:
Well that's good going.Chippycafc said:
Don't tell lies... It was brought up here last year by the usual poster who posted a link to it, you never knew.... There will be no impact as there will be continue to be cross country co-operartion as there always will be, just like there will be in thermodynamic and laser technologies which as we are world leaders and the other european states feed and happily feed of our knowledge. As usual remoaner, no balanced view.seth plum said:
then we might be able to have an intelligence based argument that you seem to crave.Chippycafc said:
No when did you find that out. You just googled it..... So have agencies never moved about before. They just started on june 24th last year. In the light of intelligent conversation, can you enlighten me when you knew about this agency before. We both know that answer...seth plum said:
I am flattered that you might think I have any mates at all, by contrast you are able to speak for the whole world as in 'nobody'.Chippycafc said:
If you never mention it again... Cos nobody cares. Btw even your mates here don't give a toss either.seth plum said:
How might the Ireland crap be entertaining for you?Chippycafc said:
After you but no more boring ireland crap please.seth plum said:
Go for it.Chippycafc said:
Mountain of evidence from the guardian...where's the intelligence based argument coming from. Like an old record going round and round.Red_in_SE8 said:
This seems to be the only tactic deployed by the Brexiteers over the last 6 months. Constantly whinge about being called nasty names! What come?Big_Bad_World said:
Don't forget racist, bigoted, uneducated, ill informed, xenophobic, fiscally challenged, little Englander, closed minded, selfish and youth future ruining arseholes.Red_in_SE8 said:
You are in for a frustrating eighteen months if you think people are going to stop pointing out the sheer moronic stupidity of the Brexit vote on this thread!Chippycafc said:
This was almost on page 3, shame someone has to raise their head and spoil it. Still nothing like a good old whinge.Algarveaddick said:
And me. And anyone else, whether they are quitter or remainer, who can read.Chippycafc said:
Whose we, you and fiish.Chizz said:
This is tautology, chippy mate. We already know you don't care about facts.Chippycafc said:
Don't care. 1 was enough. As you know.Chizz said:
A couple of million in an electorate of over 46 million would, indeed, be a scrape. But, of course, it was substantially less than that. As you know.Chippycafc said:
If a couple of million is a scrape, wouldn't mind having a scrape or two in my bank.Chizz said:
Yep. That's pretty much the level of debate that convinced sufficient people to scrape the initial referendum win.Chippycafc said:
Great news, they will then be able to turn back all those undesirables before they get to Calais as they will able to see them miles from that area. No doubt the French will only put in windows looking North. We can then get our £44million back.Chizz said:Meanwhile, a huge post-Brexit boost has been announced. Seven - yes, seven! - skyscrapers are planned. And this could mean big contracts for British construction firms.
Big post-Brexit boost: seven new skyscrapers planned.
Only one, slight snag...
This is a nice piece - fairly simplistic.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/howard-aiken/youre-not-hearing-what-im-saying/10160043548015691/
And why not?
You won the referendum vote, and whatever follows is completely down to you, so in that spirit, and in the spirit of what you call intelligence based argument, could you explain the impact of your decision to relocate the European Medicines Agency to Amsterdam (don't worry, Amsterdam is not in Ireland)?
You call me a liar with no evidence to support you. I knew about the medicine issue because of direct correspondence with Heidi Alexander my local MP as she has made it one of her special concerns. Nothing to do with any poster posting last year, this year or the year before.
You are very quick to accuse me of telling lies, is that one of the side effects of being a winner?
How did you plan for cross country co-operation before you voted for brexit, did you plan to have the agency move away from London as part of the 'I know what I was voting for' scenario.
Let me ask you this about timing.
You have prepared for this particular body to move to Amsterdam and continue it's work post brexit on behalf of the EU. If the EU approve a medicine or treatment, or the myriad of other issues that come from it's work, what do you plan to be the time frame for accepting that EU work lock stock and barrel into the UK medicines system? How will you ensure the EU reaches the new UK standards that you will draw up?
However since you voted the UK out, and knew fully well in advance what you were voting for, and you won so your planned changes can be implemented, I naturally assumed you would be able to provide an impact analysis regarding the European Medicines Agency, after all you, as a person eager for 'intelligent' discourse, wouldn't have voted without thinking all these things through.
You called me a liar above, do you want to take that back?
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Why the fuck anybody bothers playing @Chippycafc game anymore/ever I will never know.18
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I still want to know who you are referencing here Chippy?
On a general note I see it is simmering again
I think it’s pretty much only myself and @stig still monitoring and checking in on this thread and of course we want to keep it going, but please remember to show respect to one another and not get personal
These next few months are actually going to be very newsworthy with important developments, so let’s try and keep it civil and respectable5 -
Would this be a bad time to mention that I am "quite interested" (pronounced seriously worried) about the Irish border crap?5
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As long as you realise that nobody cares apart from you and me and nine million people on the island, and political negotiators in the UK, Eire, Northern Ireland, and the EU. Your mates don't care, and you're boring.NornIrishAddick said:Would this be a bad time to mention that I am "quite interested" (pronounced seriously worried) about the Irish border crap?
The only non boring people are the brexit winners, they are the will of the people doncha know.1 -
I wonder why people like Jacob Rees Mogg are so keen for us to crash out of the EU so soon?
On an unrelated matter, Jacob Rees Mogg set up Somerset Capital Management, which made £27,836,800 profit last year and is managed by subsidiaries in the Cayman Islands and Singapore.
Interestingly, the Cayman Islands and Singapore are tax havens.
Additionally, the EU Anti-Tax Avoidance Directive 2016/1164 must be brought into force by member states by 1 January 2019.
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How do you know Jo? Is she someone that you just happen to follow? I only ask as I've known her for quite some time.Chizz said:I wonder why people like Jacob Rees Mogg are so keen for us to crash out of the EU so soon?
On an unrelated matter, Jacob Rees Mogg set up Somerset Capital Management, which made £27,836,800 profit last year and is managed by subsidiaries in the Cayman Islands and Singapore.
Interestingly, the Cayman Islands and Singapore are tax havens.
Additionally, the EU Anti-Tax Directive 2016/1164 must be brought into force by member states by 1 January 2019.
Lovely lady.
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More of the usual tedious ad hominem distraction. Instead of shooting the messenger, why not address the content? Can you square the 'noble' aims of Brexit with the self-interest of its architects?Big_Bad_World said:
How do you know Jo? Is she someone that you just happen to follow? I only ask as I've known her for quite some time.Chizz said:I wonder why people like Jacob Rees Mogg are so keen for us to crash out of the EU so soon?
On an unrelated matter, Jacob Rees Mogg set up Somerset Capital Management, which made £27,836,800 profit last year and is managed by subsidiaries in the Cayman Islands and Singapore.
Interestingly, the Cayman Islands and Singapore are tax havens.
Additionally, the EU Anti-Tax Directive 2016/1164 must be brought into force by member states by 1 January 2019.
Lovely lady.0 -
Why do you assume it wasn't a genuine question from a fellow remain voter?Leuth said:
More of the usual tedious ad hominem distraction. Instead of shooting the messenger, why not address the content? Can you square the 'noble' aims of Brexit with the self-interest of its architects?Big_Bad_World said:
How do you know Jo? Is she someone that you just happen to follow? I only ask as I've known her for quite some time.Chizz said:I wonder why people like Jacob Rees Mogg are so keen for us to crash out of the EU so soon?
On an unrelated matter, Jacob Rees Mogg set up Somerset Capital Management, which made £27,836,800 profit last year and is managed by subsidiaries in the Cayman Islands and Singapore.
Interestingly, the Cayman Islands and Singapore are tax havens.
Additionally, the EU Anti-Tax Directive 2016/1164 must be brought into force by member states by 1 January 2019.
Lovely lady.0 -
Because I'm employing the ad hominem fallacy myself, obviously :PStu_of_Kunming said:
Why do you assume it wasn't a genuine question from a fellow remain voter?Leuth said:
More of the usual tedious ad hominem distraction. Instead of shooting the messenger, why not address the content? Can you square the 'noble' aims of Brexit with the self-interest of its architects?Big_Bad_World said:
How do you know Jo? Is she someone that you just happen to follow? I only ask as I've known her for quite some time.Chizz said:I wonder why people like Jacob Rees Mogg are so keen for us to crash out of the EU so soon?
On an unrelated matter, Jacob Rees Mogg set up Somerset Capital Management, which made £27,836,800 profit last year and is managed by subsidiaries in the Cayman Islands and Singapore.
Interestingly, the Cayman Islands and Singapore are tax havens.
Additionally, the EU Anti-Tax Directive 2016/1164 must be brought into force by member states by 1 January 2019.
Lovely lady.1 -
She 'Wall too? I'm prepared to believe anything now :-)Big_Bad_World said:
How do you know Jo? Is she someone that you just happen to follow? I only ask as I've known her for quite some time.Chizz said:I wonder why people like Jacob Rees Mogg are so keen for us to crash out of the EU so soon?
On an unrelated matter, Jacob Rees Mogg set up Somerset Capital Management, which made £27,836,800 profit last year and is managed by subsidiaries in the Cayman Islands and Singapore.
Interestingly, the Cayman Islands and Singapore are tax havens.
Additionally, the EU Anti-Tax Directive 2016/1164 must be brought into force by member states by 1 January 2019.
Lovely lady.
Good point @Chizz makes, no? I believe Aaron Banks has similar concerns as the Cartoon Aristocrat, at least when it comes to funds and tax havens. Nothing like a bit of a tax bill to guide people's high minded principles, is there?
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Actually, no. I genuinely know Jo personally. Met her many moons ago and have remained friends ever since.Leuth said:
More of the usual tedious ad hominem distraction. Instead of shooting the messenger, why not address the content? Can you square the 'noble' aims of Brexit with the self-interest of its architects?Big_Bad_World said:
How do you know Jo? Is she someone that you just happen to follow? I only ask as I've known her for quite some time.Chizz said:I wonder why people like Jacob Rees Mogg are so keen for us to crash out of the EU so soon?
On an unrelated matter, Jacob Rees Mogg set up Somerset Capital Management, which made £27,836,800 profit last year and is managed by subsidiaries in the Cayman Islands and Singapore.
Interestingly, the Cayman Islands and Singapore are tax havens.
Additionally, the EU Anti-Tax Directive 2016/1164 must be brought into force by member states by 1 January 2019.
Lovely lady.
I'll leave it there as it wasn't intended as anything other than a honest question around someone I consider a friend.0 -
I didn't even look at the content other than seeing Jo's name and wondering if myself and Chizz had a mutual friend.PragueAddick said:
She 'Wall too? I'm prepared to believe anything now :-)Big_Bad_World said:
How do you know Jo? Is she someone that you just happen to follow? I only ask as I've known her for quite some time.Chizz said:I wonder why people like Jacob Rees Mogg are so keen for us to crash out of the EU so soon?
On an unrelated matter, Jacob Rees Mogg set up Somerset Capital Management, which made £27,836,800 profit last year and is managed by subsidiaries in the Cayman Islands and Singapore.
Interestingly, the Cayman Islands and Singapore are tax havens.
Additionally, the EU Anti-Tax Directive 2016/1164 must be brought into force by member states by 1 January 2019.
Lovely lady.
Good point @Chizz makes, no? I believe Aaron Banks has similar concerns as the Cartoon Aristocrat, at least when it comes to funds and tax havens. Nothing like a bit of a tax bill to guide people's high minded principles, is there?0 -
Fair enough and my apologies. This thread is so snarky it can be hard to take anything at face value!1
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I see that Davis covered himself in glory again at the latest select committee meeting. Not sure if there has ever been a Cabinet Minister with such distain for our Parlimentary democracy. Even Mogg couldn’t believe it and they are supposed to be on the same side of the argument. I personally think it is his way of bluffing his way through the questions as he hasn’t got a clue what is going on.3
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To be fair, he's just playing the game, it's the toothless scrutiny that is the problem, and rebukes limited to a snide comment at the end of a session.Chaz Hill said:I see that Davis covered himself in glory again at the latest select committee meeting. Not sure if there has ever been a Cabinet Minister with such distain for our Parlimentary democracy. Even Mogg couldn’t believe it and they are supposed to be on the same side of the argument. I personally think it is his way of bluffing his way through the questions as he hasn’t got a clue what is going on.
And to think there are some people that still think remainers are sabotaging brexit...1 -
I think Davis confirmed yesterday that during the whole of the leave campaign and up until I think very recently that he didn’t have a fracking clue what Brexit meant or what constraints would would still be in place regarding trade deals until after March 2019.
The moron actually thought we could / would be able to negotiate a free trade deal with Germany. If it wasn’t so serious and with such dire consequence it would be hilarious. Proves that whatever deal is ultimately on the table it’s going to be catastrophic. Davis is without doubt so far out of his depth he needs a submarine.4 -
SHG this is his reply to you
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It certainly should be newsworthy, and there should be important development.cabbles said:I still want to know who you are referencing here Chippy?
On a general note I see it is simmering again
I think it’s pretty much only myself and @stig still monitoring and checking in on this thread and of course we want to keep it going, but please remember to show respect to one another and not get personal
These next few months are actually going to be very newsworthy with important developments, so let’s try and keep it civil and respectable
But, as I have said on numerous occasions, there is absolutely no point in leaving the EU if we stay within the Customs Union ... and this would appear to be the approach that May and Hammond now prefer.
A move that would mean we are unable to strike our own trade deals, but remain subject to EU structures with less of a voice than we have now.
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Especially now that nice President Trump has promised Mrs May a great trade dealstonemuse said:
It certainly should be newsworthy, and there should be important development.cabbles said:I still want to know who you are referencing here Chippy?
On a general note I see it is simmering again
I think it’s pretty much only myself and @stig still monitoring and checking in on this thread and of course we want to keep it going, but please remember to show respect to one another and not get personal
These next few months are actually going to be very newsworthy with important developments, so let’s try and keep it civil and respectable
But, as I have said on numerous occasions, there is absolutely no point in leaving the EU if we stay within the Customs Union ... and this would appear to be the approach that May and Hammond now prefer.
A move that would mean we are unable to strike our own trade deals, but remain subject to EU structures with less of a voice than we have now.
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I may have voted leave, but even I take that with a touch of cynicismChaz Hill said:
Especially now that nice President Trump has promised Mrs May a great trade dealstonemuse said:
It certainly should be newsworthy, and there should be important development.cabbles said:I still want to know who you are referencing here Chippy?
On a general note I see it is simmering again
I think it’s pretty much only myself and @stig still monitoring and checking in on this thread and of course we want to keep it going, but please remember to show respect to one another and not get personal
These next few months are actually going to be very newsworthy with important developments, so let’s try and keep it civil and respectable
But, as I have said on numerous occasions, there is absolutely no point in leaving the EU if we stay within the Customs Union ... and this would appear to be the approach that May and Hammond now prefer.
A move that would mean we are unable to strike our own trade deals, but remain subject to EU structures with less of a voice than we have now. 2 -
Allo, allo, what have we here? An opinion polll?
You could say that, officer. I might call it a straw in the wind....
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jan/26/britons-favour-second-referendum-brexit-icm-poll?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other2
