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The influence of the EU on Britain.
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I would like to nominate Chris Patten for Brexit quote of the Day award. And to make sure I win, I've got a hat-trick of them...
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And he's got a fourth! Chris Patten is on fire! Extraordinary, Jeff!
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Did you hear him on Today earlier @PragueAddick . Did his best to explain the practicalities of trying to negotiate a trade deal with a much bigger partner alone and as part of a huge trading block like...er...the one we are in already. His closing comment was that if you get into bed with an elephant you'll more than likely end up squashed. (Edit - just managed to open one of those tweets now quoting the same)PragueAddick said:I would like to nominate Chris Patten for Brexit quote of the Day award. And to make sure I win, I've got a hat-trick of them...
Not that he would know anything about doing deals with the Chinese government or anything.5 -
I spent a good deal of time around Chris Patten and the fragrant Lavendar, and I would imagine he would be the archetypal target of venom and hate from the left wedge on here.
They were an unfailingly lovely, considerate couple in the few months I knew them so it's great he is getting some positive comments.2 -
I'm left of centre, and obviously disagreed with his politics as a Conservative, but have always liked him and, more importantly have felt that he is a very able man. He has the ability to make the best of difficult situations and has a breadth of experience that is sadly lacking in UK politics at the moment.A-R-T-H-U-R said:I spent a good deal of time around Chris Patten and the fragrant Lavendar, and I would imagine he would be the archetypal target of venom and hate from the left wedge on here.
They were an unfailingly lovely, considerate couple in the few months I knew them so it's great he is getting some positive comments.
He made a significant contribution to improving matters in Northern Ireland and, it has to be said, anyone that I know over here that had dealings with him, have absolutely agreed with your interpretation of the man.9 -
Think supergob o'briens mouth certainly matched all of the above and apparently still at it.Bournemouth Addick said:
Have you priced up the value of all those front pages in the Mail, the Sun, the Telegraph, the Express, etc. now then? What about the endless opinion pieces by the likes of Littlejohn spouting nonsense about the EU for decades, how much was that promotion of Leave worth?Southbank said:
Because everybody knows the Remain campaign was massively more resourced than the Leave campaign, however dodgy their dealings may have been, so on balance nobody much cares except die hard Remainers.PragueAddick said:And now Carole is saying this about the "pro-Remain" BBC. WTF???
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They will be quoting Churchill next.A-R-T-H-U-R said:I spent a good deal of time around Chris Patten and the fragrant Lavendar, and I would imagine he would be the archetypal target of venom and hate from the left wedge on here.
They were an unfailingly lovely, considerate couple in the few months I knew them so it's great he is getting some positive comments.0 -
I never thought too much of him until I read ‘The Last Governor: Chris Patten and the Handover of Hong Kong’.NornIrishAddick said:
I'm left of centre, and obviously disagreed with his politics as a Conservative, but have always liked him and, more importantly have felt that he is a very able man. He has the ability to make the best of difficult situations and has a breadth of experience that is sadly lacking in UK politics at the moment.A-R-T-H-U-R said:I spent a good deal of time around Chris Patten and the fragrant Lavendar, and I would imagine he would be the archetypal target of venom and hate from the left wedge on here.
They were an unfailingly lovely, considerate couple in the few months I knew them so it's great he is getting some positive comments.
He made a significant contribution to improving matters in Northern Ireland and, it has to be said, anyone that I know over here that had dealings with him, have absolutely agreed with your interpretation of the man.
He did a very able job at a difficult time.4 -
Why? Has he slated your brexit poster boys too?Chippycafc said:
They will be quoting Churchill next.A-R-T-H-U-R said:I spent a good deal of time around Chris Patten and the fragrant Lavendar, and I would imagine he would be the archetypal target of venom and hate from the left wedge on here.
They were an unfailingly lovely, considerate couple in the few months I knew them so it's great he is getting some positive comments.3 -
He’s probably not even been consulted for his experience. The gung ho brexit politicians simply believe that because we’re Britain that’s enough. Very naive level of arroganceBournemouth Addick said:
Did you hear him on Today earlier @PragueAddick . Did his best to explain the practicalities of trying to negotiate a trade deal with a much bigger partner alone and as part of a huge trading block like...er...the one we are in already. His closing comment was that if you get into bed with an elephant you'll more than likely end up squashed. (Edit - just managed to open one of those tweets now quoting the same)PragueAddick said:I would like to nominate Chris Patten for Brexit quote of the Day award. And to make sure I win, I've got a hat-trick of them...
Not that he would know anything about doing deals with the Chinese government or anything.3 - Sponsored links:
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Digging out old has been useless tory MPs is though. Patten was about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.Super_Eddie_Youds said:
Why? Has he slated your brexit poster boys too?Chippycafc said:
They will be quoting Churchill next.A-R-T-H-U-R said:I spent a good deal of time around Chris Patten and the fragrant Lavendar, and I would imagine he would be the archetypal target of venom and hate from the left wedge on here.
They were an unfailingly lovely, considerate couple in the few months I knew them so it's great he is getting some positive comments.0 -
Yeah. Unlike Boris Johnson, who hasChippycafc said:
Digging out old has been useless tory MPs is though. Patten was about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.Super_Eddie_Youds said:
Why? Has he slated your brexit poster boys too?Chippycafc said:
They will be quoting Churchill next.A-R-T-H-U-R said:I spent a good deal of time around Chris Patten and the fragrant Lavendar, and I would imagine he would be the archetypal target of venom and hate from the left wedge on here.
They were an unfailingly lovely, considerate couple in the few months I knew them so it's great he is getting some positive comments.
- never done a proper job in his life, unless you think editing a tiny right wing weekly mag is such.
- Insulted individuals, ethnic groups and countries on a regular basis since he arrived in Parliament
- wasted millions of pounds of YOUR money on the Garden Bridge, those buses, and the Olympic Stadium
- in the case of the Stadium pushed through and signed off on a deal which threatens the commercial health of YOUR football club
I think I'd choose a chocolate fire guard, if using it ensured that Boris Johnson retired from politics and focused on TV game shows.
Next up, Dr Liam Fox....
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I'm unlikely to agree with a lot of the views held by politicians such as Chris Patten, Ken Clarke or Michael Hesseltine. Not all their views though, some I would probably share tbh, and certainly around the massive mistake that is leaving the EU. What they have in common though is they are serious politicians worthy of listening to even if I disagree. Even Dominic Lawson is worth considering the views of, if only to discount them!NornIrishAddick said:
I'm left of centre, and obviously disagreed with his politics as a Conservative, but have always liked him and, more importantly have felt that he is a very able man. He has the ability to make the best of difficult situations and has a breadth of experience that is sadly lacking in UK politics at the moment.A-R-T-H-U-R said:I spent a good deal of time around Chris Patten and the fragrant Lavendar, and I would imagine he would be the archetypal target of venom and hate from the left wedge on here.
They were an unfailingly lovely, considerate couple in the few months I knew them so it's great he is getting some positive comments.
He made a significant contribution to improving matters in Northern Ireland and, it has to be said, anyone that I know over here that had dealings with him, have absolutely agreed with your interpretation of the man.
Equally I'm unlikely to agree with every utterance of George Galloway, Dennis Skinner or Corbyn himself.
Apropos of not very much and well before he was anywhere near parliament but I once had a cuppa with Philip Hammond in my mum and dad's front room. Nice enough bloke, not much in common with me or my family and I've agreed with very little he's said since getting elected. But he's clearly aware of what a colossal feck up awaits us in the future.
The fact that I disagree with a lot of these politicians stance on some, probably most, things and agree on others, specifically Brexit in this case, is exactly as it should be in my book.3 -
Now now mate, you know boris isn't a friend of mine... Didn't patten get a cosy little job too after he lost his seat in 92. He would have been better off staying there. His views are irrelevant.PragueAddick said:
Yeah. Unlike Boris Johnson, who hasChippycafc said:
Digging out old has been useless tory MPs is though. Patten was about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.Super_Eddie_Youds said:
Why? Has he slated your brexit poster boys too?Chippycafc said:
They will be quoting Churchill next.A-R-T-H-U-R said:I spent a good deal of time around Chris Patten and the fragrant Lavendar, and I would imagine he would be the archetypal target of venom and hate from the left wedge on here.
They were an unfailingly lovely, considerate couple in the few months I knew them so it's great he is getting some positive comments.
- never done a proper job in his life, unless you think editing a tiny right wing weekly mag is such.
- Insulted individuals, ethnic groups and countries on a regular basis since he arrived in Parliament
- wasted millions of pounds of YOUR money on the Garden Bridge, those buses, and the Olympic Stadium
- in the case of the Stadium pushed through and signed off on a deal which threatens the commercial health of YOUR football club
I think I'd choose a chocolate fire guard, if using it ensured that Boris Johnson retired from politics and focused on TV game shows.
Next up, Dr Liam Fox....0 -
Well, as that particular cosy little job was Governor of Hong Kong, overseeing the handover to China, I'm not really certain that staying there was up to him, nor, necessarily whether it was either a cosy or, indeed, a little job.Chippycafc said:
Now now mate, you know boris isn't a friend of mine... Didn't patten get a cosy little job too after he lost his seat in 92. He would have been better off staying there. His views are irrelevant.PragueAddick said:
Yeah. Unlike Boris Johnson, who hasChippycafc said:
Digging out old has been useless tory MPs is though. Patten was about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.Super_Eddie_Youds said:
Why? Has he slated your brexit poster boys too?Chippycafc said:
They will be quoting Churchill next.A-R-T-H-U-R said:I spent a good deal of time around Chris Patten and the fragrant Lavendar, and I would imagine he would be the archetypal target of venom and hate from the left wedge on here.
They were an unfailingly lovely, considerate couple in the few months I knew them so it's great he is getting some positive comments.
- never done a proper job in his life, unless you think editing a tiny right wing weekly mag is such.
- Insulted individuals, ethnic groups and countries on a regular basis since he arrived in Parliament
- wasted millions of pounds of YOUR money on the Garden Bridge, those buses, and the Olympic Stadium
- in the case of the Stadium pushed through and signed off on a deal which threatens the commercial health of YOUR football club
I think I'd choose a chocolate fire guard, if using it ensured that Boris Johnson retired from politics and focused on TV game shows.
Next up, Dr Liam Fox....
I would have thought that his views are as relevant as anyone else's, and possibly more relevant than most, which is why, perhaps, the news media asked him for his opinion.
He is familiar with the issues in Northern Ireland, has experience of working in Westminster and Brussels, and has at least a passing knowledge (from when he was the UK's EU Commissioner, responsible for External Affairs) of how international negotiations work, and frequently don't....6 -
He had his day, and was in one of the most destructive evil governments and sat round the table that destroyed many lives. The thatcher years. He is irelevant now.NornIrishAddick said:
Well, as that particular cosy little job was Governor of Hong Kong, overseeing the handover to China, I'm not really certain that staying there was up to him, nor, necessarily whether it was either a cosy or, indeed, a little job.Chippycafc said:
Now now mate, you know boris isn't a friend of mine... Didn't patten get a cosy little job too after he lost his seat in 92. He would have been better off staying there. His views are irrelevant.PragueAddick said:
Yeah. Unlike Boris Johnson, who hasChippycafc said:
Digging out old has been useless tory MPs is though. Patten was about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.Super_Eddie_Youds said:
Why? Has he slated your brexit poster boys too?Chippycafc said:
They will be quoting Churchill next.A-R-T-H-U-R said:I spent a good deal of time around Chris Patten and the fragrant Lavendar, and I would imagine he would be the archetypal target of venom and hate from the left wedge on here.
They were an unfailingly lovely, considerate couple in the few months I knew them so it's great he is getting some positive comments.
- never done a proper job in his life, unless you think editing a tiny right wing weekly mag is such.
- Insulted individuals, ethnic groups and countries on a regular basis since he arrived in Parliament
- wasted millions of pounds of YOUR money on the Garden Bridge, those buses, and the Olympic Stadium
- in the case of the Stadium pushed through and signed off on a deal which threatens the commercial health of YOUR football club
I think I'd choose a chocolate fire guard, if using it ensured that Boris Johnson retired from politics and focused on TV game shows.
Next up, Dr Liam Fox....
I would have thought that his views are as relevant as anyone else's, and possibly more relevant than most, which is why, perhaps, the news media asked him for his opinion.
He is familiar with the issues in Northern Ireland, has experience of working in Westminster and Brussels, and has at least a passing knowledge (from when he was the UK's EU Commissioner, responsible for External Affairs) of how international negotiations work, and frequently don't....3 -
Also in that government were Norman Tebbitt, John Redwood, Liam Fox, IDS, Norman Lamont, Peter Lilley, Michael Howard, and Nigel Lawson, but you lapped up all of their Brexit shit.Chippycafc said:
He had his day, and was in one of the most destructive evil governments and sat round the table that destroyed many lives. The thatcher years. He is irelevant now.NornIrishAddick said:
Well, as that particular cosy little job was Governor of Hong Kong, overseeing the handover to China, I'm not really certain that staying there was up to him, nor, necessarily whether it was either a cosy or, indeed, a little job.Chippycafc said:
Now now mate, you know boris isn't a friend of mine... Didn't patten get a cosy little job too after he lost his seat in 92. He would have been better off staying there. His views are irrelevant.PragueAddick said:
Yeah. Unlike Boris Johnson, who hasChippycafc said:
Digging out old has been useless tory MPs is though. Patten was about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.Super_Eddie_Youds said:
Why? Has he slated your brexit poster boys too?Chippycafc said:
They will be quoting Churchill next.A-R-T-H-U-R said:I spent a good deal of time around Chris Patten and the fragrant Lavendar, and I would imagine he would be the archetypal target of venom and hate from the left wedge on here.
They were an unfailingly lovely, considerate couple in the few months I knew them so it's great he is getting some positive comments.
- never done a proper job in his life, unless you think editing a tiny right wing weekly mag is such.
- Insulted individuals, ethnic groups and countries on a regular basis since he arrived in Parliament
- wasted millions of pounds of YOUR money on the Garden Bridge, those buses, and the Olympic Stadium
- in the case of the Stadium pushed through and signed off on a deal which threatens the commercial health of YOUR football club
I think I'd choose a chocolate fire guard, if using it ensured that Boris Johnson retired from politics and focused on TV game shows.
Next up, Dr Liam Fox....
I would have thought that his views are as relevant as anyone else's, and possibly more relevant than most, which is why, perhaps, the news media asked him for his opinion.
He is familiar with the issues in Northern Ireland, has experience of working in Westminster and Brussels, and has at least a passing knowledge (from when he was the UK's EU Commissioner, responsible for External Affairs) of how international negotiations work, and frequently don't....
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And I do believe a certain N Farage was a Thatcher adoring Conservative during the period of that "destructive evil government".PragueAddick said:
Also in that government were Norman Tebbitt, John Redwood, Liam Fox, IDS, Norman Lamont, Peter Lilley, Michael Howard, and Nigel Lawson, but you lapped up all of their Brexit shit.Chippycafc said:
He had his day, and was in one of the most destructive evil governments and sat round the table that destroyed many lives. The thatcher years. He is irelevant now.NornIrishAddick said:
Well, as that particular cosy little job was Governor of Hong Kong, overseeing the handover to China, I'm not really certain that staying there was up to him, nor, necessarily whether it was either a cosy or, indeed, a little job.Chippycafc said:
Now now mate, you know boris isn't a friend of mine... Didn't patten get a cosy little job too after he lost his seat in 92. He would have been better off staying there. His views are irrelevant.PragueAddick said:
Yeah. Unlike Boris Johnson, who hasChippycafc said:
Digging out old has been useless tory MPs is though. Patten was about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.Super_Eddie_Youds said:
Why? Has he slated your brexit poster boys too?Chippycafc said:
They will be quoting Churchill next.A-R-T-H-U-R said:I spent a good deal of time around Chris Patten and the fragrant Lavendar, and I would imagine he would be the archetypal target of venom and hate from the left wedge on here.
They were an unfailingly lovely, considerate couple in the few months I knew them so it's great he is getting some positive comments.
- never done a proper job in his life, unless you think editing a tiny right wing weekly mag is such.
- Insulted individuals, ethnic groups and countries on a regular basis since he arrived in Parliament
- wasted millions of pounds of YOUR money on the Garden Bridge, those buses, and the Olympic Stadium
- in the case of the Stadium pushed through and signed off on a deal which threatens the commercial health of YOUR football club
I think I'd choose a chocolate fire guard, if using it ensured that Boris Johnson retired from politics and focused on TV game shows.
Next up, Dr Liam Fox....
I would have thought that his views are as relevant as anyone else's, and possibly more relevant than most, which is why, perhaps, the news media asked him for his opinion.
He is familiar with the issues in Northern Ireland, has experience of working in Westminster and Brussels, and has at least a passing knowledge (from when he was the UK's EU Commissioner, responsible for External Affairs) of how international negotiations work, and frequently don't....6 -
I didn't listen to them so couldn't, i despise them. I am just surprised people who are supposed to be on the left and labour supporters are sucking up to right wing tories.PragueAddick said:
Also in that government were Norman Tebbitt, John Redwood, Liam Fox, IDS, Norman Lamont, Peter Lilley, Michael Howard, and Nigel Lawson, but you lapped up all of their Brexit shit.Chippycafc said:
He had his day, and was in one of the most destructive evil governments and sat round the table that destroyed many lives. The thatcher years. He is irelevant now.NornIrishAddick said:
Well, as that particular cosy little job was Governor of Hong Kong, overseeing the handover to China, I'm not really certain that staying there was up to him, nor, necessarily whether it was either a cosy or, indeed, a little job.Chippycafc said:
Now now mate, you know boris isn't a friend of mine... Didn't patten get a cosy little job too after he lost his seat in 92. He would have been better off staying there. His views are irrelevant.PragueAddick said:
Yeah. Unlike Boris Johnson, who hasChippycafc said:
Digging out old has been useless tory MPs is though. Patten was about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.Super_Eddie_Youds said:
Why? Has he slated your brexit poster boys too?Chippycafc said:
They will be quoting Churchill next.A-R-T-H-U-R said:I spent a good deal of time around Chris Patten and the fragrant Lavendar, and I would imagine he would be the archetypal target of venom and hate from the left wedge on here.
They were an unfailingly lovely, considerate couple in the few months I knew them so it's great he is getting some positive comments.
- never done a proper job in his life, unless you think editing a tiny right wing weekly mag is such.
- Insulted individuals, ethnic groups and countries on a regular basis since he arrived in Parliament
- wasted millions of pounds of YOUR money on the Garden Bridge, those buses, and the Olympic Stadium
- in the case of the Stadium pushed through and signed off on a deal which threatens the commercial health of YOUR football club
I think I'd choose a chocolate fire guard, if using it ensured that Boris Johnson retired from politics and focused on TV game shows.
Next up, Dr Liam Fox....
I would have thought that his views are as relevant as anyone else's, and possibly more relevant than most, which is why, perhaps, the news media asked him for his opinion.
He is familiar with the issues in Northern Ireland, has experience of working in Westminster and Brussels, and has at least a passing knowledge (from when he was the UK's EU Commissioner, responsible for External Affairs) of how international negotiations work, and frequently don't....1 -
Good word WAS.Chaz Hill said:
And I do believe a certain N Farage was a Thatcher adoring Conservative during the period of that "destructive evil government".PragueAddick said:
Also in that government were Norman Tebbitt, John Redwood, Liam Fox, IDS, Norman Lamont, Peter Lilley, Michael Howard, and Nigel Lawson, but you lapped up all of their Brexit shit.Chippycafc said:
He had his day, and was in one of the most destructive evil governments and sat round the table that destroyed many lives. The thatcher years. He is irelevant now.NornIrishAddick said:
Well, as that particular cosy little job was Governor of Hong Kong, overseeing the handover to China, I'm not really certain that staying there was up to him, nor, necessarily whether it was either a cosy or, indeed, a little job.Chippycafc said:
Now now mate, you know boris isn't a friend of mine... Didn't patten get a cosy little job too after he lost his seat in 92. He would have been better off staying there. His views are irrelevant.PragueAddick said:
Yeah. Unlike Boris Johnson, who hasChippycafc said:
Digging out old has been useless tory MPs is though. Patten was about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.Super_Eddie_Youds said:
Why? Has he slated your brexit poster boys too?Chippycafc said:
They will be quoting Churchill next.A-R-T-H-U-R said:I spent a good deal of time around Chris Patten and the fragrant Lavendar, and I would imagine he would be the archetypal target of venom and hate from the left wedge on here.
They were an unfailingly lovely, considerate couple in the few months I knew them so it's great he is getting some positive comments.
- never done a proper job in his life, unless you think editing a tiny right wing weekly mag is such.
- Insulted individuals, ethnic groups and countries on a regular basis since he arrived in Parliament
- wasted millions of pounds of YOUR money on the Garden Bridge, those buses, and the Olympic Stadium
- in the case of the Stadium pushed through and signed off on a deal which threatens the commercial health of YOUR football club
I think I'd choose a chocolate fire guard, if using it ensured that Boris Johnson retired from politics and focused on TV game shows.
Next up, Dr Liam Fox....
I would have thought that his views are as relevant as anyone else's, and possibly more relevant than most, which is why, perhaps, the news media asked him for his opinion.
He is familiar with the issues in Northern Ireland, has experience of working in Westminster and Brussels, and has at least a passing knowledge (from when he was the UK's EU Commissioner, responsible for External Affairs) of how international negotiations work, and frequently don't....2 - Sponsored links:
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I despise him. I am just surprised people who are supposed to be on the left and Labour supporters are sucking up to right wing Thatcher supporters.Chippycafc said:
Good word WAS.Chaz Hill said:
And I do believe a certain N Farage was a Thatcher adoring Conservative during the period of that "destructive evil government".PragueAddick said:
Also in that government were Norman Tebbitt, John Redwood, Liam Fox, IDS, Norman Lamont, Peter Lilley, Michael Howard, and Nigel Lawson, but you lapped up all of their Brexit shit.Chippycafc said:
He had his day, and was in one of the most destructive evil governments and sat round the table that destroyed many lives. The thatcher years. He is irelevant now.NornIrishAddick said:
Well, as that particular cosy little job was Governor of Hong Kong, overseeing the handover to China, I'm not really certain that staying there was up to him, nor, necessarily whether it was either a cosy or, indeed, a little job.Chippycafc said:
Now now mate, you know boris isn't a friend of mine... Didn't patten get a cosy little job too after he lost his seat in 92. He would have been better off staying there. His views are irrelevant.PragueAddick said:
Yeah. Unlike Boris Johnson, who hasChippycafc said:
Digging out old has been useless tory MPs is though. Patten was about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.Super_Eddie_Youds said:
Why? Has he slated your brexit poster boys too?Chippycafc said:
They will be quoting Churchill next.A-R-T-H-U-R said:I spent a good deal of time around Chris Patten and the fragrant Lavendar, and I would imagine he would be the archetypal target of venom and hate from the left wedge on here.
They were an unfailingly lovely, considerate couple in the few months I knew them so it's great he is getting some positive comments.
- never done a proper job in his life, unless you think editing a tiny right wing weekly mag is such.
- Insulted individuals, ethnic groups and countries on a regular basis since he arrived in Parliament
- wasted millions of pounds of YOUR money on the Garden Bridge, those buses, and the Olympic Stadium
- in the case of the Stadium pushed through and signed off on a deal which threatens the commercial health of YOUR football club
I think I'd choose a chocolate fire guard, if using it ensured that Boris Johnson retired from politics and focused on TV game shows.
Next up, Dr Liam Fox....
I would have thought that his views are as relevant as anyone else's, and possibly more relevant than most, which is why, perhaps, the news media asked him for his opinion.
He is familiar with the issues in Northern Ireland, has experience of working in Westminster and Brussels, and has at least a passing knowledge (from when he was the UK's EU Commissioner, responsible for External Affairs) of how international negotiations work, and frequently don't....4 -
Good idea.Chippycafc said:
They will be quoting Churchill next.A-R-T-H-U-R said:I spent a good deal of time around Chris Patten and the fragrant Lavendar, and I would imagine he would be the archetypal target of venom and hate from the left wedge on here.
They were an unfailingly lovely, considerate couple in the few months I knew them so it's great he is getting some positive comments.
"If Europe were once united in the sharing of its common inheritance, there would be no limit to the happiness, to the prosperity and glory which its three or four hundred million people would enjoy". WSC, 1946
"What is this sovereign remedy? It is to re-create the European Family, or as much of it as we can, and provide it with a structure under which it can dwell in peace, in safety and in freedom. We must build a kind of United States of Europe". WSC, 1946
“We cannot aim at anything less than the Union of Europe as a whole, and we look forward with confidence to the day when that Union will be achieved.” WSC, 1948
"We genuinely wish to join a European free trade area – and if our continental friends wish to reach agreement, I am quite sure a way can be found and that reasonable adjustments can be made to meet the essential interests of all". WSC, 1957
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Read above WAS.Chizz said:
I despise him. I am just surprised people who are supposed to be on the left and Labour supporters are sucking up to right wing Thatcher supporters.Chippycafc said:
Good word WAS.Chaz Hill said:
And I do believe a certain N Farage was a Thatcher adoring Conservative during the period of that "destructive evil government".PragueAddick said:
Also in that government were Norman Tebbitt, John Redwood, Liam Fox, IDS, Norman Lamont, Peter Lilley, Michael Howard, and Nigel Lawson, but you lapped up all of their Brexit shit.Chippycafc said:
He had his day, and was in one of the most destructive evil governments and sat round the table that destroyed many lives. The thatcher years. He is irelevant now.NornIrishAddick said:
Well, as that particular cosy little job was Governor of Hong Kong, overseeing the handover to China, I'm not really certain that staying there was up to him, nor, necessarily whether it was either a cosy or, indeed, a little job.Chippycafc said:
Now now mate, you know boris isn't a friend of mine... Didn't patten get a cosy little job too after he lost his seat in 92. He would have been better off staying there. His views are irrelevant.PragueAddick said:
Yeah. Unlike Boris Johnson, who hasChippycafc said:
Digging out old has been useless tory MPs is though. Patten was about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.Super_Eddie_Youds said:
Why? Has he slated your brexit poster boys too?Chippycafc said:
They will be quoting Churchill next.A-R-T-H-U-R said:I spent a good deal of time around Chris Patten and the fragrant Lavendar, and I would imagine he would be the archetypal target of venom and hate from the left wedge on here.
They were an unfailingly lovely, considerate couple in the few months I knew them so it's great he is getting some positive comments.
- never done a proper job in his life, unless you think editing a tiny right wing weekly mag is such.
- Insulted individuals, ethnic groups and countries on a regular basis since he arrived in Parliament
- wasted millions of pounds of YOUR money on the Garden Bridge, those buses, and the Olympic Stadium
- in the case of the Stadium pushed through and signed off on a deal which threatens the commercial health of YOUR football club
I think I'd choose a chocolate fire guard, if using it ensured that Boris Johnson retired from politics and focused on TV game shows.
Next up, Dr Liam Fox....
I would have thought that his views are as relevant as anyone else's, and possibly more relevant than most, which is why, perhaps, the news media asked him for his opinion.
He is familiar with the issues in Northern Ireland, has experience of working in Westminster and Brussels, and has at least a passing knowledge (from when he was the UK's EU Commissioner, responsible for External Affairs) of how international negotiations work, and frequently don't....0 -
If you love Chris Patten so much plus as he knows about Irish issues, perhaps you can ask him to trundle down to Dublin and ask why they haven't removed any Russian diplomats yet. I mean they are our "friends" arnt they. Considering countries the other side of the world have done so.Chizz said:
I despise him. I am just surprised people who are supposed to be on the left and Labour supporters are sucking up to right wing Thatcher supporters.Chippycafc said:
Good word WAS.Chaz Hill said:
And I do believe a certain N Farage was a Thatcher adoring Conservative during the period of that "destructive evil government".PragueAddick said:
Also in that government were Norman Tebbitt, John Redwood, Liam Fox, IDS, Norman Lamont, Peter Lilley, Michael Howard, and Nigel Lawson, but you lapped up all of their Brexit shit.Chippycafc said:
He had his day, and was in one of the most destructive evil governments and sat round the table that destroyed many lives. The thatcher years. He is irelevant now.NornIrishAddick said:
Well, as that particular cosy little job was Governor of Hong Kong, overseeing the handover to China, I'm not really certain that staying there was up to him, nor, necessarily whether it was either a cosy or, indeed, a little job.Chippycafc said:
Now now mate, you know boris isn't a friend of mine... Didn't patten get a cosy little job too after he lost his seat in 92. He would have been better off staying there. His views are irrelevant.PragueAddick said:
Yeah. Unlike Boris Johnson, who hasChippycafc said:
Digging out old has been useless tory MPs is though. Patten was about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.Super_Eddie_Youds said:
Why? Has he slated your brexit poster boys too?Chippycafc said:
They will be quoting Churchill next.A-R-T-H-U-R said:I spent a good deal of time around Chris Patten and the fragrant Lavendar, and I would imagine he would be the archetypal target of venom and hate from the left wedge on here.
They were an unfailingly lovely, considerate couple in the few months I knew them so it's great he is getting some positive comments.
- never done a proper job in his life, unless you think editing a tiny right wing weekly mag is such.
- Insulted individuals, ethnic groups and countries on a regular basis since he arrived in Parliament
- wasted millions of pounds of YOUR money on the Garden Bridge, those buses, and the Olympic Stadium
- in the case of the Stadium pushed through and signed off on a deal which threatens the commercial health of YOUR football club
I think I'd choose a chocolate fire guard, if using it ensured that Boris Johnson retired from politics and focused on TV game shows.
Next up, Dr Liam Fox....
I would have thought that his views are as relevant as anyone else's, and possibly more relevant than most, which is why, perhaps, the news media asked him for his opinion.
He is familiar with the issues in Northern Ireland, has experience of working in Westminster and Brussels, and has at least a passing knowledge (from when he was the UK's EU Commissioner, responsible for External Affairs) of how international negotiations work, and frequently don't....2 -
Once again, chippy, it's no use just typing words. They have to be placed in the right order so as to make a fully comprehensible statement, question, exclamation or command, and consisting of a main clause and sometimes one or more subordinate clauses.1
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Ireland chucked out a Russian diplomat yesterday.Chippycafc said:
If you love Chris Patten so much plus as he knows about Irish issues, perhaps you can ask him to trundle down to Dublin and ask why they haven't removed any Russian diplomats yet. I mean they are our "friends" arnt they. Considering countries the other side of the world have done so.Chizz said:
I despise him. I am just surprised people who are supposed to be on the left and Labour supporters are sucking up to right wing Thatcher supporters.Chippycafc said:
Good word WAS.Chaz Hill said:
And I do believe a certain N Farage was a Thatcher adoring Conservative during the period of that "destructive evil government".PragueAddick said:
Also in that government were Norman Tebbitt, John Redwood, Liam Fox, IDS, Norman Lamont, Peter Lilley, Michael Howard, and Nigel Lawson, but you lapped up all of their Brexit shit.Chippycafc said:
He had his day, and was in one of the most destructive evil governments and sat round the table that destroyed many lives. The thatcher years. He is irelevant now.NornIrishAddick said:
Well, as that particular cosy little job was Governor of Hong Kong, overseeing the handover to China, I'm not really certain that staying there was up to him, nor, necessarily whether it was either a cosy or, indeed, a little job.Chippycafc said:
Now now mate, you know boris isn't a friend of mine... Didn't patten get a cosy little job too after he lost his seat in 92. He would have been better off staying there. His views are irrelevant.PragueAddick said:
Yeah. Unlike Boris Johnson, who hasChippycafc said:
Digging out old has been useless tory MPs is though. Patten was about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.Super_Eddie_Youds said:
Why? Has he slated your brexit poster boys too?Chippycafc said:
They will be quoting Churchill next.A-R-T-H-U-R said:I spent a good deal of time around Chris Patten and the fragrant Lavendar, and I would imagine he would be the archetypal target of venom and hate from the left wedge on here.
They were an unfailingly lovely, considerate couple in the few months I knew them so it's great he is getting some positive comments.
- never done a proper job in his life, unless you think editing a tiny right wing weekly mag is such.
- Insulted individuals, ethnic groups and countries on a regular basis since he arrived in Parliament
- wasted millions of pounds of YOUR money on the Garden Bridge, those buses, and the Olympic Stadium
- in the case of the Stadium pushed through and signed off on a deal which threatens the commercial health of YOUR football club
I think I'd choose a chocolate fire guard, if using it ensured that Boris Johnson retired from politics and focused on TV game shows.
Next up, Dr Liam Fox....
I would have thought that his views are as relevant as anyone else's, and possibly more relevant than most, which is why, perhaps, the news media asked him for his opinion.
He is familiar with the issues in Northern Ireland, has experience of working in Westminster and Brussels, and has at least a passing knowledge (from when he was the UK's EU Commissioner, responsible for External Affairs) of how international negotiations work, and frequently don't....7 -
DittoChizz said:Once again, chippy, it's no use just typing words. They have to be placed in the right order so as to make a fully comprehensible statement, question, exclamation or command, and consisting of a main clause and sometimes one or more subordinate clauses.
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Wow at last..should have been first not after nearly everyone else had done it.seth plum said:
Ireland chucked out a Russian diplomat yesterday.Chippycafc said:
If you love Chris Patten so much plus as he knows about Irish issues, perhaps you can ask him to trundle down to Dublin and ask why they haven't removed any Russian diplomats yet. I mean they are our "friends" arnt they. Considering countries the other side of the world have done so.Chizz said:
I despise him. I am just surprised people who are supposed to be on the left and Labour supporters are sucking up to right wing Thatcher supporters.Chippycafc said:
Good word WAS.Chaz Hill said:
And I do believe a certain N Farage was a Thatcher adoring Conservative during the period of that "destructive evil government".PragueAddick said:
Also in that government were Norman Tebbitt, John Redwood, Liam Fox, IDS, Norman Lamont, Peter Lilley, Michael Howard, and Nigel Lawson, but you lapped up all of their Brexit shit.Chippycafc said:
He had his day, and was in one of the most destructive evil governments and sat round the table that destroyed many lives. The thatcher years. He is irelevant now.NornIrishAddick said:
Well, as that particular cosy little job was Governor of Hong Kong, overseeing the handover to China, I'm not really certain that staying there was up to him, nor, necessarily whether it was either a cosy or, indeed, a little job.Chippycafc said:
Now now mate, you know boris isn't a friend of mine... Didn't patten get a cosy little job too after he lost his seat in 92. He would have been better off staying there. His views are irrelevant.PragueAddick said:
Yeah. Unlike Boris Johnson, who hasChippycafc said:
Digging out old has been useless tory MPs is though. Patten was about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.Super_Eddie_Youds said:
Why? Has he slated your brexit poster boys too?Chippycafc said:
They will be quoting Churchill next.A-R-T-H-U-R said:I spent a good deal of time around Chris Patten and the fragrant Lavendar, and I would imagine he would be the archetypal target of venom and hate from the left wedge on here.
They were an unfailingly lovely, considerate couple in the few months I knew them so it's great he is getting some positive comments.
- never done a proper job in his life, unless you think editing a tiny right wing weekly mag is such.
- Insulted individuals, ethnic groups and countries on a regular basis since he arrived in Parliament
- wasted millions of pounds of YOUR money on the Garden Bridge, those buses, and the Olympic Stadium
- in the case of the Stadium pushed through and signed off on a deal which threatens the commercial health of YOUR football club
I think I'd choose a chocolate fire guard, if using it ensured that Boris Johnson retired from politics and focused on TV game shows.
Next up, Dr Liam Fox....
I would have thought that his views are as relevant as anyone else's, and possibly more relevant than most, which is why, perhaps, the news media asked him for his opinion.
He is familiar with the issues in Northern Ireland, has experience of working in Westminster and Brussels, and has at least a passing knowledge (from when he was the UK's EU Commissioner, responsible for External Affairs) of how international negotiations work, and frequently don't....0
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