Post match views: AFC Wimbledon vs Charlton
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Yes during the warm up at Bristol I believe.Siv_in_Norfolk said:I know Sarr ranges from sublime to ridiculous and in most games I wouldn’t want to risk him, but last night seemed like an ideal time to throw him into the fray
I see he wasn’t on the bench. Injured?
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katrien knackered himSiv_in_Norfolk said:I know Sarr ranges from sublime to ridiculous and in most games I wouldn’t want to risk him, but last night seemed like an ideal time to throw him into the fray
I see he wasn’t on the bench. Injured?2 -
Oddly enough, I bumped into Eddie in a pub in Bromley the day after the Plymouth game. He'd been to the match and stated he was still a Charlton fan, spent a great ten-fifteen minutes chatting to him.The_President said:
The last time I can remember is Youds and Mills giving it 'some'addick05 said:
Not the first one to make the point - to get out of this league you have to be physically strong and have a bit of nastiness too - just look at Wigan, they have good players but I watched them bully us off the park early in the season and came away convinced they were going up. To be fair we have occasionally got stuck in (Plymouth being an example) but I'm afraid all too often we just don't cut it physically.Valley11 said:
Yeah. They roughed our lot up and we didn’t like it.AFKABartram said:Only got to watch a couple of mins early in the second half but unless my eyes deceived me, Zyro did one of the worst bottle job pull out of a tackle that I’ve ever seen.
Did anyone else see that?
But as others have said, home game Next is ideal. Win them all and we’re play offs. I’d question if we’re good enough but hey ho
Two final thoughts...
We can’t play like this at Pompey
We badly miss Fosu
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Yeah me too, it all makes sense, unlike listening to Robinson which was mostly absolute waffling ear torture.0
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Ardley showed his experience there. Still a learning curve for Bow, but I’m sure he will get there.Scoham said:
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None mate! That's a selfie!!Mendonca In Asdas said:
I dread to think what websites you’ve been on to find that!bazjonster said:
So do we mate!!iainment said:I blame Robinson and Duchatelet and the weather and the date and the pants I chose today.
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Bring in Mick McCarthy now, instead of in the summer, now that he has left Ipswich2
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Jeezpalarsehater said:
katrien knackered himSiv_in_Norfolk said:I know Sarr ranges from sublime to ridiculous and in most games I wouldn’t want to risk him, but last night seemed like an ideal time to throw him into the fray
I see he wasn’t on the bench. Injured?0 -
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The football might be awful but I reckon he'd get us out of the division.ross1 said:Bring in Mick McCarthy now, instead of in the summer, now that he has left Ipswich
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It happens every week....ross1 said:1 -
Lives in Bromley.ross1 said:Bring in Mick McCarthy now, instead of in the summer, now that he has left Ipswich
Often watches games at the valley.
Very experienced
And available.
Give him a two year contract and let Bowyer and Jackson develop under him.
Works for me.6 -
would be a fantastic manager and doesn't take any bs, last night was brilliant " my name is mick mcarthy not merlin the magician"hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
The football might be awful but I reckon he'd get us out of the division.ross1 said:Bring in Mick McCarthy now, instead of in the summer, now that he has left Ipswich
the juggernauts of football ipswich don't know how lucky they are, keeps them there every season on a shoestring budget, they done the same with roy keane, the arsenal of suffolk2 -
Won't happen while Roland hangs around like a bad smell.blackpool72 said:
Lives in Bromley.ross1 said:Bring in Mick McCarthy now, instead of in the summer, now that he has left Ipswich
Often watches games at the valley.
Very experienced
And available.
Give him a two year contract and let Bowyer and Jackson develop under him.
Works for me.0 -
Totally agree.Callumcafc said:
Won't happen while Roland hangs around like a bad smell.blackpool72 said:
Lives in Bromley.ross1 said:Bring in Mick McCarthy now, instead of in the summer, now that he has left Ipswich
Often watches games at the valley.
Very experienced
And available.
Give him a two year contract and let Bowyer and Jackson develop under him.
Works for me.
Let's hope the takeover happens soon and McCarthy is still available..
He would be a much better fit for us than say Kewell.1 -
So, are we saying we now don't like the diamond formation?
Why not just make it your last visit......just don't go there again. It's a shite experience and not worth it (even if we ever were to play well there). Some grounds these days just aren't worth bothering with.redlanered said:Lack of guts & fight is always more frustrating than slips and comedy errors. Bauer had one nightmare moment, versus 94 minutes of nothing from Zyro, Aribo. And yet again subs make no impact whatsoever - Marshall's cameo was an embarrassment.
I really hoped tonight would be my last visit to that horrible dump...but on tonight's evidence it won't be0 -
Away from home I totally agree with you. Fosu is the one player who can do it regularly away. At home, he's been far less effective, albeit ok. 8 goals away and only 1 goal at home?GreenhitheRed said:One man team......no Fosu no chance!
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If Robinson had stayed he might have got us out of this division.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
The football might be awful but I reckon he'd get us out of the division.ross1 said:Bring in Mick McCarthy now, instead of in the summer, now that he has left Ipswich
Fourth Division football would have been a real eye-opener ...2 -
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I can see this being a potential 'winner takes all' match.The_President said:
Yep, to see if Rochdale survive or not.Henry Irving said:Said all season it would be decided at Rochdale.
Rochdale need a win to stay up we need a win for 6th.
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Quick work out on Fosu, Home/Away
Charlton @ home - averaged 1.71 points per game
with Fosu its 1.87 ppg
without Fosu its 1.33 ppg
Charlton away - averaged 1.30 points per game
with Fosu - 1.50 ppg
without Fosu - 1.00
So we are above average with him both home and away, and below average without him.
Mostly meaningless as it doesn't take into account other factors such as form, team and opposition but it kept me busy for 5 minutes8 -
OK yes it seems when we lose FOSU we go off the Boil, but you must show Bowyer and the Team a bit more faith or support.
KR has won nothing since he left, and we have won 3, against good sides, and drawn one against a tough team Bristol at home.
Last nights performance was very poor, but if our POST was a goal, i think we still would have got a point.
no excuse, we were poor, and when we need 3 points against a horrible team of bashers, we dont get then.
a win saturday win sort things out.!!
you should all show more faith !!0 -
This. And those who come out with this "season over" nonsense every time we don't win a game will hopefully stay away if we do get into the Playoffs.cafcnick1992 said:Ridiculous scenes here. 2 weeks ago we were nowhere. We thrash three teams, conceeding only 1 goal.
We lose 1 game and you guessed it, a bunch of adults who haven't discovered fire, yet can operate a computer declare that the playoffs are gone. This is their conclusion despite the fact we're actually in the playoffs and are about to play all the teams around us.
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season was over before it began really no one hand of heart can say with our squad on paper should be scraping into 6th place, start of the season i genuinely believed we would be battling for autos.cafctom said:
This. And those who come out with this "season over" nonsense every time we don't win a game will hopefully stay away if we do get into the Playoffs.cafcnick1992 said:Ridiculous scenes here. 2 weeks ago we were nowhere. We thrash three teams, conceeding only 1 goal.
We lose 1 game and you guessed it, a bunch of adults who haven't discovered fire, yet can operate a computer declare that the playoffs are gone. This is their conclusion despite the fact we're actually in the playoffs and are about to play all the teams around us.1 -
It must be nice to be so rational - you talk like a couple of patronising schoolteachers addressing a bunch of five year olds. It's fairly obvious why people are pissed off - we haven't turned up in a pressure game against a mediocre side. It's quite normal for people for fans to be disappointed after a display like that.cafctom said:
This. And those who come out with this "season over" nonsense every time we don't win a game will hopefully stay away if we do get into the Playoffs.cafcnick1992 said:Ridiculous scenes here. 2 weeks ago we were nowhere. We thrash three teams, conceeding only 1 goal.
We lose 1 game and you guessed it, a bunch of adults who haven't discovered fire, yet can operate a computer declare that the playoffs are gone. This is their conclusion despite the fact we're actually in the playoffs and are about to play all the teams around us.
If we lower our expectations enough then we can all be completely rational and just be grateful the team have worked jolly hard. Some of our supporters would happily sit there and lap up any old shit.
I'm hacked off that we've lost and played badly as well in a key game against the mighty Wimbledon. If we'd lost 5-4 in a thrilling game in the Champions League I might feel a bit different.3 -
fair point but it's the closest ground to where I live, so in other respects perverse to avoid it.Simonsen said:So, are we saying we now don't like the diamond formation?
Why not just make it your last visit......just don't go there again. It's a shite experience and not worth it (even if we ever were to play well there). Some grounds these days just aren't worth bothering with.redlanered said:Lack of guts & fight is always more frustrating than slips and comedy errors. Bauer had one nightmare moment, versus 94 minutes of nothing from Zyro, Aribo. And yet again subs make no impact whatsoever - Marshall's cameo was an embarrassment.
I really hoped tonight would be my last visit to that horrible dump...but on tonight's evidence it won't be0 -
Well some people told me things had changed under Bowyer and with wins against Plymouth and Rotherham
it appeared so. LAST NIGHT wimbledon same old result but played to a different system.
Until we have a team of Charlton players and we do not have to call on loan players all four of them played poorly last night things are not going to get any better.
Have nothing against Bowyer it is at this moment the only step forward we have taken this season.
ROLAND JUST SELL THE CLUB THIS WEEK.
Just got home after seeing this match ,lack of sleep and 600mile round trip.0 -
Konsa has been deemed not a good enough centre back to displace Pearce and is presently not good enough as a regular right back. He's got his heart set on a big move but its maybe dawning on him that sometimes life ain't that simple.TalBHAndreBA said:
I can't be the only one who thinks Konsa hasn't lived up to expectations this season. I think its because he really doesn't look happy playing for us anymore.JamesSeed said:Just about all the criticisms of the team under Robinson from January to March could be made about the team, and the squad, yesterday:
Lack of balls, lack of physicality, an unbalanced squad. I have a horrible feeling the three wins under Bowyer were a blip.
But whereas Robinson didn't seem to learn from his mistakes, perhaps Bowyer will.
Konsa isn't a right back - although I'm sure Dijksteel (also not an RB but better than Konsa going forward) was being rested.
Zyro has been overused, but Bowyer knows it at least.
Kaikai isn't as good as we might have expected from a Prem loan.
442 is fine, but it's not the only formation. Let's not become predictable again.
But bottom line is we have plenty a fancy ball players, but lack the battlers to take on the Wimbledons of this world on poor pitches. Doesn't matter why, it's what we're going to do about it over the next five matches that count. A convincing win against Scunthorpe would be a massive boost. Lose, and I think it would be game over.
He's very raw and can't seem to eradicate his habit of putting hands in the back of forwards and not coming through to clean out the header (he'd rather turn his back into the attacker and let the the ball over his head hoping for iit to go back to the keeper or out of play).
At Premier League level he'd get away with a certain amount in a three man centre back line up but would need to be playing alongside an ultra aggressive, John Terry type in a pair....or by playing in a massively superior team (which is unlikely because at the moment he doesn't look good enough).
He has many plus points; he's young, stays fit, his discipline record is good, he's quick and good on the balll. But for me he needs to add aggression, bravery and higher levels of concentration to his game if he's going to be up there with the best English defenders.2 -
Totally disagree. This was exactly the reason they won. They were physical, hard working and out battled us and we threw the towel in .charlton_carl said:They were not physical or hard working, we just didn't show up. That is the thing that annoyed me so much
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