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Charlton v Scunthorpe 14/4/2018 post-match views

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  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    Dire, dismal dreary disastrous, disinterested dogshite & any other words beginning with D that mean pathetic. I also thought their goal was offside but they deserved the 3pts. though. Could have been much worse if it wasn't Amos who made a couple of great saves.
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,621
    edited April 2018

    Simple, the only team won.

    Corrected it for you
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,227
    Deserved win for Scunthorpe.

    Pressed us high and when they won the ball back switched it wide quickly.

    We were slow, couldn't pass it beyond the press and lacked movement.

    Zyro and KaiKai poor but no one other than Amos comes out of that with much credit.

    Back to pre-Bowyer style performance.

    Still in the play-off race but where is the team I saw v Plymouth, Northampton and Rotherham?

    Going to go to the wire with us needing a result at revived Rochdale.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,679
    No passion
    No idea
    No organisation
    No clue

    No chance of the playoffs.
    Utter dog shit performance from the whole team apart from Amos
  • Hovi's Biscuit
    Hovi's Biscuit Posts: 1,717

    We can keep saying Fuck off to Roland but he’s not going anywhere anytime soon.

    Saying it is enjoyable, on the other hand
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,127
    I think Kaikai has really brought a lot to the team.



    A lot of shit
  • Manicmania
    Manicmania Posts: 1,594
    Play-off not in our own hands anymore - the only hope I can cling to is maybe that will take some pressure off since the expectation has gone now.

    Time for Fosu to earn himself the player of the year award in the last 4?

    That's about as positive as I can be.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    Season over, sell the club.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    No excuses... That was poor.
  • Couldn't understand why Bauer let Toney have so much space for the goal. Anyone got a video? He knew the cross was coming, he knew Toney was behind him, but still gave him 2 yards space to connect to the cross.

    Very un-enjoyable game overall. Hate the diving and time wasting tactics teams use these days. Zero entertainment to it. I know Charlton would have done exactly the same if in Scunthorpe's shoes, but it is a load of crap to watch. This whole "60 minute" game Allardyce supposedly invented is killing football.

    Oh well, hopefully have a trip to Sunderland next season.
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  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,156
    Sat at the bar with a fan of each of the following: Aberdeen, Watford, Norwich and Brighton. Not the cheeriest place in Albufeira this afternoon as you might imagine... At least there were four happy Smoggies over the other side of the room...
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    Won’t lay too much of the blame at Bowyer as he’s inherited the squad from KR and he obviously showed a bit of nouse to get good wins against Plymouth and Rotherham. The last 2 performances have been more KResque though and reminiscent of the woeful Blackpool away game. To a man I thought we were shit today.

    What I couldn’t get was this constant playing out the back? Neither Pearce nor Bauer look comfortable on the ball. To put so much faith in them playing it out is odd. We’re a league one team ffs. Only top top teams can do that. Not Pearce & Bauer

    As others have said, the cancer and the disease that is our ownership is forever going to hold us back. That little green shoot that materialised after Bowyer’s first win has as other little green shot’s under RD’s reign, been stamped all over and we are in slow, but perpetual decline as long as he stays.

    Take whatever money is on the table and leave
  • jdsd42
    jdsd42 Posts: 1,498
    Minute he started tinkering and made team changes .. say no more keep a winning team - simple
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280

    How can a performance level change so much from Bowyers first games to the recent three?

    I honestly believe that it was the long range effort from Page that buoyed us, and gave us that extra 10 per cent very early.
    From i Follow was the goal on or offside then?
    Which is another observation - we are a very passive side, we dont get in the oppositions face, or even in the refs ear. Its all accepted, and walk back.
    The ref ain't gonna change his mind.
    Its not about him changing his mind - its about having some desire and attitude- we just accept things, it just shows the mental attitude of the team.
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,410
    We are back playing all that pass-back / centre circle / across the middle nonsense again.
    We will win nothing with those negative tactics.

    1-0 down at home, fighting for a play-off place and I can't remember the Scunny keeper making a save in the second half.

    It was the same against Wimbledon - no keeper saves in second half..
  • cabbles said:

    Won’t lay too much of the blame at Bowyer as he’s inherited the squad from KR and he obviously showed a bit of nouse to get good wins against Plymouth and Rotherham. The last 2 performances have been more KResque though and reminiscent of the woeful Blackpool away game. To a man I thought we were shit today.

    What I couldn’t get was this constant playing out the back? Neither Pearce nor Bauer look comfortable on the ball. To put so much faith in them playing it out is odd. We’re a league one team ffs. Only top top teams can do that. Not Pearce & Bauer

    As others have said, the cancer and the disease that is our ownership is forever going to hold us back. That little green shoot that materialised after Bowyer’s first win has as other little green shot’s under RD’s reign, been stamped all over and we are in slow, but perpetual decline as long as he stays.

    Take whatever money is on the table and leave

    It's not the playing out the back that gets me, it's just the obviousness of where the ball is going.

    Pearce to Silva, back to Pearce, and then to Bauer, maybe to Amos, but then to Pearce, to de Silva, to Forster Caskey and then to the opposition. Rinse and repeat.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280

    We are back playing all that pass-back / centre circle / across the middle nonsense again.
    We will win nothing with those negative tactics.

    1-0 down at home, fighting for a play-off place and I can't remember the Scunny keeper making a save in the second half.

    It was the same against Wimbledon - no keeper saves in second half..

    There was one - Reeves shot on about 92 mins. Apart from that nothing - didnt even get in their box.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,522
    Maybe Roland spoke to Bowyer to confirm his contract to end of season. That stuffed it.

    #wewantrolandout
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280

    cabbles said:

    Won’t lay too much of the blame at Bowyer as he’s inherited the squad from KR and he obviously showed a bit of nouse to get good wins against Plymouth and Rotherham. The last 2 performances have been more KResque though and reminiscent of the woeful Blackpool away game. To a man I thought we were shit today.

    What I couldn’t get was this constant playing out the back? Neither Pearce nor Bauer look comfortable on the ball. To put so much faith in them playing it out is odd. We’re a league one team ffs. Only top top teams can do that. Not Pearce & Bauer

    As others have said, the cancer and the disease that is our ownership is forever going to hold us back. That little green shoot that materialised after Bowyer’s first win has as other little green shot’s under RD’s reign, been stamped all over and we are in slow, but perpetual decline as long as he stays.

    Take whatever money is on the table and leave

    It's not the playing out the back that gets me, it's just the obviousness of where the ball is going.

    Pearce to Silva, back to Pearce, and then to Bauer, maybe to Amos, but then to Pearce, to de Silva, to Forster Caskey and then to the opposition. Rinse and repeat.
    Millwall would have had it in the net by the time we had made the second pass to DaSIlva.
  • Genuinely can't understand how we can be so bad and ineffectual. Two key games against Wimbledon and Scunthorpe and we've been utterly shit.

    Players looked disorganised and made mistake after mistake. Scunthorpe closed us down and we barely created anything. The players are now playing as badly under Bowyer as they did under KR - is it down to the manager or have we just got a really shit group of players. I'm starting to question if any of these players are any good?

    Scunthorpe were pretty basic but they were organised and we looked like a very basic non-league side. I'm still stunned at how bad we were!
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  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    What a nightmare. Those saying it was purely down to Robbo (especially @Henry Irving ;-)) maybe owe him an apology. Our problems run deeper, and can’t be pinned on anyone other than the strange Belgian fella.
  • Missed It
    Missed It Posts: 2,734
    I suppose being warm and miserable is a marginal improvement on being cold and miserable.

    See you all in League One next season folks.
  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,699
    What really summed it up for me was we are 1 down, last few minutes effectively playing 4 up front and Amos rolls it out so we can play it across the back.

    Our players are as thick as shit.
  • rananegra
    rananegra Posts: 3,689
    Went on the walk, enjoyed that. Had a beer with SE7toSG3 and CharltonNick. Enjoyed that.
    Then normal service was resumed. I was hoping that the last couple of games were a blip, but no, it was the 3 wins that were the blip.
  • up_the_valley
    up_the_valley Posts: 4,186
    Think it all boils down to Fosu. He needs to be fit and In the side. He got injured just when we needed him, and had he stayed fit, I believe the good performances would have continued.
  • Eric_Dales
    Eric_Dales Posts: 411
    Can only play when it doesn't really matter. Soon as a game counts for something and you need some balls they fail to turn up. Spineless.
  • 1StevieG
    1StevieG Posts: 10,964
    edited April 2018
    Thought the ref got most decisions right today. Anyone that wants to blame him for that pile of shite we just witnessed needs to go to spec savers. I am still seething after that ( only because I rushed from work to watch that ) and you have to admit that we are nowhere near ready for promotion even if we snatch a play off place and win the thing. Yes, we had a little spurt after Robinson left and Bowyer and JJ are not to blame for the current form these last 2 games, it’s a culmination of 4 years of this shite ownership that is to blame. We are unfit to compete in a higher league and who knows how long it will take to return to the heady heights of a stable championship club. Thanks Roland, now **** off.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,851
    I'm generally a fairly moderate voice here when it comes to praise and criticism, but that was rubbish. There was no energy, drive and movement from the start, and we've regressed back to the style of play we had before KR left, of endless passing the ball around the back, no movement and ponderous attacking. Scunthorpe were well organised today, but are a limited team really

    Amos is a fine keeper, but his distribution leaves a lot to be desired. Endless roll outs to Pearce (who was virtually next to him anyway, followed by the ball being returned to him, or some very strange passes to Djiksteel when he was tightly marked. Surely he must realise it isn't working. He's not a kid, he's 28 now so needs to take responsibility for this.

    Where was Marshall today? He's not our greatest player, but at least he's a genuine wide player, someone who can stretch the play as all our attacking midfielders want to cut inside all the time. None of out strikers player well today, but their service was very poor, where were the balls to attack?
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,236
    Inspiring. Skilful. Passionate. A credit to the supporters. That was the Upbeats.

    Charlton were utter utter shit. Unbelievably shit. Something must have happened behind the scenes as I cannot believe the difference in a fortnight. Inexplicably bad.
  • Awful performance awful ref another season in this dog shit league