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Nice interview with Curbs

Scandalous the way football has treated him since he stood up to his employer. Had a lot more to offer.

Still, I appreciate there are worse fates than becoming a football pundit.

https://thesetpieces.com/interviews/alan-curbishley/
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  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070
    Shows how much football management has changed when he is still in the Top 10 managers with most amount of games managed in the Premier League.

    Little bit sad that article but at least he seems to have accepted the situation. Would have him back in a heartbeat in an advisory capacity.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,948
    I'm in that pic of him in front of the West stand.

    Well a younger version of me.
  • Vincenzo said:

    Scandalous the way football has treated him since he stood up to his employer. Had a lot more to offer.

    Still, I appreciate there are worse fates than becoming a football pundit.

    https://thesetpieces.com/interviews/alan-curbishley/

    Why? He clearly states he had plenty of job offers and opportunities, but for whatever reason he chose not to take them.

    Perhaps some stubbornness on his part as he says a lot were championship clubs. It's highly possible that if he'd taken one and got them promoted, he'd still be working in management today.
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491

    I'm in that pic of him in front of the West stand.

    Well a younger version of me.

    did you play for Southampton?
  • Vincenzo said:

    Scandalous the way football has treated him since he stood up to his employer. Had a lot more to offer.

    Still, I appreciate there are worse fates than becoming a football pundit.

    https://thesetpieces.com/interviews/alan-curbishley/

    I miss him.
  • Vincenzo said:

    Scandalous the way football has treated him since he stood up to his employer. Had a lot more to offer.

    Still, I appreciate there are worse fates than becoming a football pundit.

    https://thesetpieces.com/interviews/alan-curbishley/

    Why? He clearly states he had plenty of job offers and opportunities, but for whatever reason he chose not to take them.

    Perhaps some stubbornness on his part as he says a lot were championship clubs. It's highly possible that if he'd taken one and got them promoted, he'd still be working in management today.
    Said it before... His attitude not to take any old job is whats saved his reputation.

    Would much prefer a Manager coming into Charlton with that attitude to roles because they actually feel they can make a difference rather than us getting an Alan Pardew type figure who just sees it as another pay out when things eventually go wrong
  • Come home Alan.

    Our Club needs rebuilding from top to bottom. Inside and out and I can’t think of a person better qualified to do it.

  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,891
    Interesting that in the mentor relationships mentioned in the article, 3 of the individuals (Jones, Hart and Lennie) have Charlton connections.

  • addick05
    addick05 Posts: 2,348
    Man is a legend for me, would love to see him come back in some kind of role if and when Roland finally pisses of.
  • buckshee
    buckshee Posts: 7,868
    Him as director of football leaving Bowyer to do the coaching?

    Yes please.

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  • mistrollingin
    mistrollingin Posts: 3,868

    I'm in that pic of him in front of the West stand.

    Well a younger version of me.

    Were the trains on time that day then? :smile:
  • Vincenzo said:

    Scandalous the way football has treated him since he stood up to his employer. Had a lot more to offer.

    Still, I appreciate there are worse fates than becoming a football pundit.

    https://thesetpieces.com/interviews/alan-curbishley/

    Why? He clearly states he had plenty of job offers and opportunities, but for whatever reason he chose not to take them.

    Perhaps some stubbornness on his part as he says a lot were championship clubs. It's highly possible that if he'd taken one and got them promoted, he'd still be working in management today.
    Said it before... His attitude not to take any old job is whats saved his reputation.

    Would much prefer a Manager coming into Charlton with that attitude to roles because they actually feel they can make a difference rather than us getting an Alan Pardew type figure who just sees it as another pay out when things eventually go wrong
    But his attitude to not take any old job is why he isn't working in management any more.

    Can't argue with your point about Pardew type managers, but at the same time i can't believe that every job Curbs was offered after west ham was beneath him. Plenty of decent managers are working in the championship. Wolves' manager was in charge at Valencia and Porto before coming to the championship, so if that's not beneath him, then it shouldn't have been for Curbs either.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,948

    I'm in that pic of him in front of the West stand.

    Well a younger version of me.

    Were the trains on time that day then? :smile:
    Doubt it.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    buckshee said:

    Him as director of football leaving Bowyer to do the coaching?

    Yes please.

    If we are still in this division I could see this happening.

    If we were to clinch promotion I could see new owners wanting someone with more experience taking over. i.e Mick McCarthy type.
  • charltonkeston
    charltonkeston Posts: 7,369
    I always thought England missed a trick with him when they choose the wally with the brolley instead.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,891

    I always thought England missed a trick with him when they choose the wally with the brolley instead.

    In retrospect, but at the time it made complete sense. The guy had already worked as an assistant to the England team, so it was the natural next step for him. After all Joachim Löw took over as Germany manager, also in 2006, after 2 years as assistant, and that didn't work out too badly...
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,129

    I always thought England missed a trick with him when they choose the wally with the brolley instead.

    In retrospect, but at the time it made complete sense. The guy had already worked as an assistant to the England team, so it was the natural next step for him. After all Joachim Löw took over as Germany manager, also in 2006, after 2 years as assistant, and that didn't work out too badly...
    Difference being that Germany actually care about their youth infrastructure.
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,871
    I can't imagine curbs joining the manager merry go round.

  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,957

    Vincenzo said:

    Scandalous the way football has treated him since he stood up to his employer. Had a lot more to offer.

    Still, I appreciate there are worse fates than becoming a football pundit.

    https://thesetpieces.com/interviews/alan-curbishley/

    Why? He clearly states he had plenty of job offers and opportunities, but for whatever reason he chose not to take them.

    Perhaps some stubbornness on his part as he says a lot were championship clubs. It's highly possible that if he'd taken one and got them promoted, he'd still be working in management today.
    Said it before... His attitude not to take any old job is whats saved his reputation.

    Would much prefer a Manager coming into Charlton with that attitude to roles because they actually feel they can make a difference rather than us getting an Alan Pardew type figure who just sees it as another pay out when things eventually go wrong
    Curbs says he's the sort of manager who wants to build something, bit by bit - at Charlton, it was about progressing the team to the Prem and staying there, plus gradually expanding the stadium.

    What he doesn't seem to want to do is just come in on a temporary basis as a fire fighter - you know, like Neil Warnock is very good at doing.
    Curbs wants to build something worthwhile, long term.

    But at his age and with his experience, he's already said that mentoring a raw young manager appeals to him.
    That way he get's to help build something. But he'll have to go below the Prem to do that.

    They say you should never go back. But as somebody has already said, mentoring Lee Bowyer here at Charlton could be ideal.
    Just get out Roland, now! - and perhaps let it happen :smile:


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  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,964
    I think Murray got it right when he told us that in his opinion Parky was a better manager than Curbs.






    :).
  • addick05
    addick05 Posts: 2,348

    I think Murray got it right when he told us that in his opinion Parky was a better manager than Curbs.

    Always had a lot of time for Parky - but better than Curbs? Seven year's in the Premier League.
    Don't think so.






    :).

  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,957

    I think Murray got it right when he told us that in his opinion Parky was a better manager than Curbs.






    :).

    Haha ..... and there was me thinking Murray wasn't really telling the truth :smile:
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,179
    I'm not saying anything revolutionary when I suggest that him working above Bowyer and Jacko in and advisory roll could really pay dividends for us, but it's definitely something I'd be very happy to see us try.

    I know he gets a bit of stick for being a little too dull and pragmatic at times, his football certainly could be when he didn't think we had a team with which to go and impose ourselves on the opposition (his record suggests he was right to take that approach most of the time though), but he will always be one of my biggest Charlton heroes. So many great days under his management.

    It's really poor the way he has been a little bit ostracised for making a stand against West Ham, but it only puts him higher in my estimation. He's a man of principal, which sometimes seems a very rare thing in football, and the sense of custodianship and commitment he carried with his management of our club was even rarer and so starkly in contrast to many of the jokers we have had manning the dugout since he left. His West Ham roots are well known, but he'll always be proper Charlton in my book.
  • The players were always the most important thing to Curbs.

    He worked really hard in scouting and assessing skills and personalities before bringing players in and forming a team. His endeavour certainly paid off for Charlton. When West Ham took recruitment and retention decisions away from him it was like chopping his right arm off.

    Curbs was every inch a manager (as opposed to head coach). I'm not sure how many old fashioned manager jobs still exist at the top level of football, but I think Curbs would find it difficult to merely train and prepare players who were selected for him.

    A rather amusing thought would be Curbs reaction to the waifs and strays sent to the Valley by Duchatelet Meire and Driesen. Can you just imagine?
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,738
    If I was the new owner of Charlton, I would give Curbs a role supporting somebody like Bowyer or JJ. Not through sentiment, but through logic.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,891
    Sean Dyche at Burnley or Eddie Howe at Bournemouth are the nearest we have to a modern day Curbs, as both have been there for a while, have strong team spirit within their squads and you get the feeling that both (especially Dyche) are interested in the long term development of the clubs, rather than just using all the PL money on big signings

    For example, when he first took Burnley up, a lot of the PL "windfall" was used to rebuild the training ground rather than the squad
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,871
    Alan pardew is someone that should really be struggling to get back into the game....(since 2008)

    Curbishleys phone stopped ringing....

    A lot of people are stupid
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    The Red Robin Posts: 26,129
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