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England Cricket - Summer of 2018

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  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    Root is batting at three Malan four, it has got it on The BBC website. I am a bit sad that Ballance wasn't called up. I like other posters have not seen much of Bess.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    I saw some of Bess watching the Lions stream. He has a very nice action and gives it a tweak. Most importantly, he can bat ;)

    Wood is not much quicker than the others these days tbh
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Quite surprised that Sam Curran hasn't been called up - especially after the grilling he gave Root at the Oval over the weekend, and a ten-fer.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Wood is the quickest bowler we have.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    Not any more. Stone of Warks and J Overton when fit are quicker these days
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    Also, Saqib Mahmood
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    I like Stone, but he is injury prone.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,652
    The_President said:

    Quite surprised that Sam Curran hasn't been called up - especially after the grilling he gave Root at the Oval over the weekend, and a ten-fer.

    He'll get a chance when his form dips. It's the England way :-)
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,914
    England need to leave our 4 or 5 exceptional 19/20 year olds alone for a year. Let them develop and play a bit more cricket firat then come calling.

    Sam is maybe the exception to that as he is in this 3rd season.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    edited May 2018
    cantersaddick said:

    England need to leave our 4 or 5 exceptional 19/20 year olds alone for a year. Let them develop and play a bit more cricket firat then come calling.

    Sam is maybe the exception to that as he is in this 3rd season.

    Yeah agree with that, however, next year is the Ashes - so imo its either this year or the year after next- personally i think Sam is ready - he has the personality and nous to deal with Test cricket, and once he gets in, he will be there for a long time.
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    The_President said:

    Quite surprised that Sam Curran hasn't been called up - especially after the grilling he gave Root at the Oval over the weekend, and a ten-fer.

    Ed Smith (Kent and Middlesex) is adopting an "anyone but Surrey" approach

    He would have dropped Stoneman as well, but didn't want to be rumbled too soon
  • Ormiston_Addick
    Ormiston_Addick Posts: 8,810
    Interesting one with Buttler, he batted beautifully in some of the ODIs over here in the Aussie summer, the Aussie bowlers didn't know where to bowl at him.

    He is never going to bat all day at seven for a 60 not out, his job will be to go out there and seize the initiative against a tiring attack and turn 150-5 into 300 + by playing his shots and putting the bowlers onto the back foot.

    He does have a touch of the Gilchrist's about him and a player like that at number seven could be a game-changer.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Ormiston Addick said:

    Interesting one with Buttler, he batted beautifully in some of the ODIs over here in the Aussie summer, the Aussie bowlers didn't know where to bowl at him.

    He is never going to bat all day at seven for a 60 not out, his job will be to go out there and seize the initiative against a tiring attack and turn 150-5 into 300 + by playing his shots and putting the bowlers onto the back foot.

    He does have a touch of the Gilchrist's about him and a player like that at number seven could be a game-changer.

    If he keeps wicket.
    As i said, he isnt going to be batting at 7 if they have brought him in at a batter.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,783
    The_President said:

    Ormiston Addick said:

    Interesting one with Buttler, he batted beautifully in some of the ODIs over here in the Aussie summer, the Aussie bowlers didn't know where to bowl at him.

    He is never going to bat all day at seven for a 60 not out, his job will be to go out there and seize the initiative against a tiring attack and turn 150-5 into 300 + by playing his shots and putting the bowlers onto the back foot.

    He does have a touch of the Gilchrist's about him and a player like that at number seven could be a game-changer.

    If he keeps wicket.
    As i said, he isnt going to be batting at 7 if they have brought him in at a batter.
    I think Buttler isn't going to be keeping and will still bat at 7 simply because Bairstow doesn't want to give the gloves up and England want him to bat at 5.
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    The_President said:

    Ormiston Addick said:

    Interesting one with Buttler, he batted beautifully in some of the ODIs over here in the Aussie summer, the Aussie bowlers didn't know where to bowl at him.

    He is never going to bat all day at seven for a 60 not out, his job will be to go out there and seize the initiative against a tiring attack and turn 150-5 into 300 + by playing his shots and putting the bowlers onto the back foot.

    He does have a touch of the Gilchrist's about him and a player like that at number seven could be a game-changer.

    If he keeps wicket.
    As i said, he isnt going to be batting at 7 if they have brought him in at a batter.
    He is batting at seven and he has been brought in as a batter. Source Ed Smith.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    The_President said:

    Ormiston Addick said:

    Interesting one with Buttler, he batted beautifully in some of the ODIs over here in the Aussie summer, the Aussie bowlers didn't know where to bowl at him.

    He is never going to bat all day at seven for a 60 not out, his job will be to go out there and seize the initiative against a tiring attack and turn 150-5 into 300 + by playing his shots and putting the bowlers onto the back foot.

    He does have a touch of the Gilchrist's about him and a player like that at number seven could be a game-changer.

    If he keeps wicket.
    As i said, he isnt going to be batting at 7 if they have brought him in at a batter.
    Buttler simply can't bat above 7 at test match level. Bairstow might well bat 6 with Stokes at 5, but I think it will be the other way round
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    If that is the case, then Buttler himself should question it - because you could very well have the scenario that Bairstow found himself in many times in that he will be 20 something no having to bat with the tail. Makes no sense.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Just read that Bess has taken one championship wicket this season.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    He can bat though, and Virdi can't

    In all seriousness, he's played in lots of seam-heavy games this season. His overall record isn't bad
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    The_President said:

    Just read that Bess has taken one championship wicket this season.

    overall average of under 23 is impressive though.
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  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    So, it seems its
    Cook
    Stoneman
    Root
    Malan
    Bairstow
    Stokes
    Buttler
    Woakes or Wood
    Bess
    Jimmy
    Broad

    Is that right?
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,783
    That is how I see it.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,783
    It is quite bizarre but any young spinner is likely to learn more about his craft in one season playing for England than probably half a decade playing for his county - wickets with overhead conditions that favour the likes of Stevens, Masters etc mean very little chance of playing let alone bowling. Kent aren't even playing a front line spinner at the moment and before we know it we will have played half the CC matches.
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,960
    The_President said:

    So, it seems its
    Cook
    Stoneman
    Root
    Malan
    Bairstow
    Stokes
    Buttler
    Woakes or Wood
    Bess
    Jimmy
    Broad

    Is that right?

    Stokes ahead of Bairstow
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    The_President said:

    So, it seems its
    Cook
    Stoneman
    Root
    Malan
    Bairstow
    Stokes
    Buttler
    Woakes or Wood
    Bess
    Jimmy
    Broad

    Is that right?

    You got there in the end.
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,900
    my team would have been

    cook
    stoneman
    root
    malan
    bairstow
    stokes
    foakes
    woakes or s curran
    bess or another spin option
    anderson
    broad

    Buttlers technique gets found out at test level in my opinion also think wood has a fundamental fault ..short run up means he has to put too much into his delivery resulting in injury ..think the original selection looks too much like a 50 over team
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    "In the first of our exclusive extracts from his autobiography 'Cut Short', former England batsman James Taylor relives the day in April 2016 a routine pre-season match at Cambridge University ended his career - and left him fighting for his life."

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2018/05/18/james-taylor-could-see-heart-stretching-skin-thought-going-die/

    In the second of our extracts from James Taylor’s new autobiography, the former England batsman recalls his turbulent relationship with Kevin Pietersen - and how his Test debut in 2012 turned horribly sour.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2018/05/18/james-taylor-lost-respect-kevin-pietersen/
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Very insightful stuff above re: KP and I had no idea he was so close to death either.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    If possible Callum can you put the KP JT link up again can’t find it on google or your link , cheers
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,914
    Anyone who has an account with the telegraph wanna post the entire articles?

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