The influence of the EU on Britain.
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Some progress, we are all on board that UK government fucked this up and that it's nothing to do with the EUImissthepeanutman said:
A practice carried out by labour and tories alike depending on how you define rich.Red_in_SE8 said:
Or maybe when we had oil we should have invested in a sovereign fund rather than squandering the benefits on tax cuts for the rich.Imissthepeanutman said:Just back from a little Fjordland jolly in Norway.
Clever people the Norwegians their Sovereign Fund from oil revenues now accounts to 1.5m euros per Norwegian and used on infrastructure such as tunnels and road improvements and retained for when reserve in oil run out.
So I think what's good for the Norwegians is fine by me.
Also our tour guides were Belgian Dutch and Italian. All the local Norwegians are making a bundle out of hydro electric power. Yes they have water too in abundance.
We should have let them rape and pillage a little more.
One could argue it was "squandered on benefits" as well.
But the point is the Uk has lacked central ground consensus politics. It drifts from one extreme to the other and looks set to do so in the near future. No blame attached to the EU on this one.
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Can't blame the EU for everything. If we leave the EU who will we blame then?ThreadKiller said:
Some progress, we are all on board that UK government fucked this up and that it's nothing to do with the EUImissthepeanutman said:
A practice carried out by labour and tories alike depending on how you define rich.Red_in_SE8 said:
Or maybe when we had oil we should have invested in a sovereign fund rather than squandering the benefits on tax cuts for the rich.Imissthepeanutman said:Just back from a little Fjordland jolly in Norway.
Clever people the Norwegians their Sovereign Fund from oil revenues now accounts to 1.5m euros per Norwegian and used on infrastructure such as tunnels and road improvements and retained for when reserve in oil run out.
So I think what's good for the Norwegians is fine by me.
Also our tour guides were Belgian Dutch and Italian. All the local Norwegians are making a bundle out of hydro electric power. Yes they have water too in abundance.
We should have let them rape and pillage a little more.
One could argue it was "squandered on benefits" as well.
But the point is the Uk has lacked central ground consensus politics. It drifts from one extreme to the other and looks set to do so in the near future. No blame attached to the EU on this one.0 -
NATO possibly?hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Can't blame the EU for everything. If we leave the EU who will we blame then?ThreadKiller said:
Some progress, we are all on board that UK government fucked this up and that it's nothing to do with the EUImissthepeanutman said:
A practice carried out by labour and tories alike depending on how you define rich.Red_in_SE8 said:
Or maybe when we had oil we should have invested in a sovereign fund rather than squandering the benefits on tax cuts for the rich.Imissthepeanutman said:Just back from a little Fjordland jolly in Norway.
Clever people the Norwegians their Sovereign Fund from oil revenues now accounts to 1.5m euros per Norwegian and used on infrastructure such as tunnels and road improvements and retained for when reserve in oil run out.
So I think what's good for the Norwegians is fine by me.
Also our tour guides were Belgian Dutch and Italian. All the local Norwegians are making a bundle out of hydro electric power. Yes they have water too in abundance.
We should have let them rape and pillage a little more.
One could argue it was "squandered on benefits" as well.
But the point is the Uk has lacked central ground consensus politics. It drifts from one extreme to the other and looks set to do so in the near future. No blame attached to the EU on this one.1 -
Does this mean a possible short of Pot Noodles?seth plum said:So part of this is making plans for a no deal brexit.
Stockpiling food.
Why is it a secret plan.
Seriously, why a secret? Is there anybody in the known universe that can explain why stockpiling processed food in preparation for a no deal brexit would need to be a 'secret'?
And.
Presumably stockpiling medicines.
A huge security presence on the land border in Ireland.
Manston airport and the M20/M2 being sorted for the tailbacks.
New air routes being created to avoid the airspace of the countries we have separated from without a deal.
No sharing of security information.
The forced repatriation of UK and EU citizens all over the gaff.....and so on.
This is not project fear, it is project prepare.
No deal is better than a bad deal brexiters say.
Then look at the practical realities of your no deal in the face and explain how it is going to work out.
Brexit won, and brexit voters knew what they were voting for.
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Is this for real or what ? If it is are those who ridiculed the warnings as project fear going to apologise?3
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I'll say it again about this shower.
No government is better than a bad government.4 -
Just hope that some of you hysterical girls don't live in town houses and forget what floor you are on come 9 o clock.0
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But then again your likely to be happy should England lose.-3
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What the actual fuck?!?!?!?Chippycafc said:But then again your likely to be happy should England lose.
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Indeed that's what i say, there your mates sadly. If we make it and play france... Job done.Stig said:
What the actual fuck?!?!?!?Chippycafc said:But then again your likely to be happy should England lose.
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Speaking from my own perspective, I've got France in the office sweep, so....0
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Again, wtaf?Chippycafc said:
Indeed that's what i say, there your mates sadly. If we make it and play france... Job done.Stig said:
What the actual fuck?!?!?!?Chippycafc said:But then again your likely to be happy should England lose.
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Me too. I'll be very happy with the runners up prize!NornIrishAddick said:Speaking from my own perspective, I've got France in the office sweep, so....
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Lol i have England.... But course always back my homeland anyway... Patriot.NornIrishAddick said:Speaking from my own perspective, I've got France in the office sweep, so....
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#tryingtoohard
Let's just all have a break and get behind the team for a couple of hours eh?
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Agreed... And lets get behind the country.Bournemouth Addick said:#tryingtoohard
Let's just all have a break and get behind the team for a couple of hours eh?0 -
Surely Teresa and her cabinet have longer than that?Bournemouth Addick said:#tryingtoohard
Let's just all have a break and get behind the team for a couple of hours eh?1 -
And in English ?Chippycafc said:
Indeed that's what i say, there your mates sadly. If we make it and play france... Job done.Stig said:
What the actual fuck?!?!?!?Chippycafc said:But then again your likely to be happy should England lose.
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This thread is gonna get reeeeal good for the next day or two3
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I think this watered down proposal by May has hit you quite hard chippy. You’re talking even more bollocks than usualChippycafc said:
Indeed that's what i say, there your mates sadly. If we make it and play france... Job done.Stig said:
What the actual fuck?!?!?!?Chippycafc said:But then again your likely to be happy should England lose.
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Ditto me old china...cabbles said:
I think this watered down proposal by May has hit you quite hard chippy. You’re talking even more bollocks than usualChippycafc said:
Indeed that's what i say, there your mates sadly. If we make it and play france... Job done.Stig said:
What the actual fuck?!?!?!?Chippycafc said:But then again your likely to be happy should England lose.
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It’s not a problem but are you retarded ?Chippycafc said:
Lol i have England.... But course always back my homeland anyway... Patriot.NornIrishAddick said:Speaking from my own perspective, I've got France in the office sweep, so....
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If I was a Brexiter - even a hard Brexiter I would be happy for a softer Brexit now. It would be a position to build on - why everything has to be done so quickly bemuses me. Speed is often the enemy of doing things properly. Anyway, If I was a Brexiter I would be looking at it in steps.
The demands for a Hard Brexit where there is absolutely no evidence that is what the majority of the public want will only make Brexit less likely.0 -
There may be a case for a hard no deal of any kind brexit immediately, so we have a mega chite storm right now rather than suffer with the runs for years.
I would love to see Rees Mogg handing out the rationed baked beans, dragging an 87 year old Greek Grandmother on to a repatriation plane, or manning a machine gun nest on the Irish Border.0 -
If I wasn't British I'd love to see Farage, Moggy and Bojo taking Britain through Brexit so they could demonstrate what wonderful politicians they are. I'm sure it would be a fantastic success...seth plum said:There may be a case for a hard no deal of any kind brexit immediately, so we have a mega chite storm right now rather than suffer with the runs for years.
I would love to see Rees Mogg handing out the rationed baked beans, dragging an 87 year old Greek Grandmother on to a repatriation plane, or manning a machine gun nest on the Irish Border.
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EU tax evasion regulations come in to force next year?MuttleyCAFC said:If I was a Brexiter - even a hard Brexiter I would be happy for a softer Brexit now. It would be a position to build on - why everything has to be done so quickly bemuses me. Speed is often the enemy of doing things properly. Anyway, If I was a Brexiter I would be looking at it in steps.
The demands for a Hard Brexit where there is absolutely no evidence that is what the majority of the public want will only make Brexit less likely.3 -
As I mentioned many many pages ago, Rees-Mogg will personally trouser £23+million if we're out of the EU before those regulations come in, hence his push for a no-deal (and therefore quick) exit. As always, follow the money, none of them are pushing a no-deal Brexit on ideological grounds.ThreadKiller said:
EU tax evasion regulations come in to force next year?MuttleyCAFC said:If I was a Brexiter - even a hard Brexiter I would be happy for a softer Brexit now. It would be a position to build on - why everything has to be done so quickly bemuses me. Speed is often the enemy of doing things properly. Anyway, If I was a Brexiter I would be looking at it in steps.
The demands for a Hard Brexit where there is absolutely no evidence that is what the majority of the public want will only make Brexit less likely.10 -
Even more shocking that he is admired by working class Brexit voters for 'saying it like it is'. All just a big con.8
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Something like the Dunning-Kruger effect, maybeCharltonMadrid said:Even more shocking that he is admired by working class Brexit voters for 'saying it like it is'. All just a big con.
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It's worse than a con, he's running the biggest short in UK history. He's basically shorting the entire UK economy. His investment firm has been betting (and advising it's clients to bet) on the UK economy going down, whilst he has been ensuring it happens. Idiots like Chippy call remainers traitors, whilst support a 100% genuine traitor, deliberately pursuing the course that causes maximum damage to the UK in order to maximise his companies profits at all our expense.CharltonMadrid said:Even more shocking that he is admired by working class Brexit voters for 'saying it like it is'. All just a big con.
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