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Updated First team Squad - 17th July

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,234
    edited July 2018
    Darren Pratley to be added.

    Otherwise seems fine

  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,740

    Darren Prattley to be added.

    Otherwise seems fine

    Erm, I'd amend that spelling if you want Darren to guest at Bromley Addicks, Henners.....
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,468
    Arguably the worst squad we've had under Roland, with maybe the one from two summers ago to rival it. At the risk of stating the obvious, things are not good. You could probably cobble together a decent first XI from that, but when the injuries start to hit, as they already have, we look desperately lacking.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,957
    SDAddick said:

    Arguably the worst squad we've had under Roland, with maybe the one from two summers ago to rival it. At the risk of stating the obvious, things are not good. You could probably cobble together a decent first XI from that, but when the injuries start to hit, as they already have, we look desperately lacking.

    Patience, SD.

    Didn't Russell Slade teach you anything?

  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,468
    Oggy Red said:

    SDAddick said:

    Arguably the worst squad we've had under Roland, with maybe the one from two summers ago to rival it. At the risk of stating the obvious, things are not good. You could probably cobble together a decent first XI from that, but when the injuries start to hit, as they already have, we look desperately lacking.

    Patience, SD.

    Didn't Russell Slade teach you anything?

    Thank you, I needed a good laugh today.

    Now where's Louis, I feel the need to yell at him coming on.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,001
    That is very worrying. Threadbare and as others have said, a lot of players in the last year of deals so with one eye on the future.
    Don’t rely on them to dig us out of a cold Tuesday night in Burton.
    I hate this owner. He’s almost destroyed that all pulling in the same direction spirit of our club.
    Come on Aussies ffs
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,003
    edited July 2018
    Roll on October, hopefully we will have 3 new players, Igor, Reeves and Clarke :smiley:
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,957
    ross1 said:

    Roll on October, hopefully we will have 3 new players, Igor, Reeves and Clarke :smiley:

    Except it will take them until April to get match fit.
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,128
    Oggy Red said:

    ross1 said:

    Roll on October, hopefully we will have 3 new players, Igor, Reeves and Clarke :smiley:

    Except it will take them until April to get match fit.
    That’s nowhere near long enough for Reeves...
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,830
    sam3110 said:

    Every time you post this we sign or sell a player :wink:

    You can thank me if you like, I won’t fight it :-)
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,437
    For anyone wondering... Seems Mascoll has been out injured for six months
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,597
    It's impressive I have to admit.

    You could almost fill a senior management team with that squad.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,807
    With the depth of our squad you've got to consider yourself pretty unlucky not to make the first team. Even JJ must be regretting hanging his boots up and Bowyer must be considering coming out of retirement.

    The first League game is two weeks away. Experience has shown that most new players coming in take at least a couple of months to get to full fitness - and that assumes that he doesn't pick up an injury along the way!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,875
    In terms of squad building the delayed takeover must have caused Bowyer and Gallen massive problems

    I imagine they expected it to be done by say the end of May, giving them 2 months to build a squad and a reasonable budget to do so.

    On the other hand, if they knew that Roland wasn't selling, they might have got in early with some of the bargain basement players signed by other L1 clubs in June to at least bulk the squad up (and sold a couple of high earners to pay for it)
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,807

    With the depth of our squad you've got to consider yourself pretty unlucky not to make the first team. Even JJ must be regretting hanging his boots up and Bowyer must be considering coming out of retirement.

    The first League game is two weeks away. Experience has shown that most new players coming in take at least a couple of months to get to full fitness - and that assumes that he doesn't pick up an injury along the way!

    Dijksteel, Reeves, Clarke and Igor now all missing through injury and illness. And Pratley and any other additions won't be fit enough for the start.

    So is that a maximum squad of 15 now including just one keeper and only four midfielders and no cover at full back either?
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    edited July 2018

    With the depth of our squad you've got to consider yourself pretty unlucky not to make the first team. Even JJ must be regretting hanging his boots up and Bowyer must be considering coming out of retirement.

    The first League game is two weeks away. Experience has shown that most new players coming in take at least a couple of months to get to full fitness - and that assumes that he doesn't pick up an injury along the way!

    Dijksteel, Reeves, Clarke and Igor now all missing through injury and illness. And Pratley and any other additions won't be fit enough for the start.

    So is that a maximum squad of 15 now including just one keeper and only four midfielders and no cover at full back either?
    Which also includes the 2 Ibiza boys
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,234
    Pratley can't play as not been added to the list in the OP
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,047
    edited July 2018
    So with the news about Pratley and Djiksteel I make that 15 senior players available for Sunderland.

    Unless a wave of transfers are completed in the next fortnight I’m guessing it will be:

    Phillips

    Solly Bauer Pearce Page

    Marshall Aribo JFC Fosu

    Magennis Taylor

    Subs:

    Ajose
    Grant
    RHF
    You
    Me
    My mum
    My gran
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384
    edited July 2018
    Reeves who is injured? What about Aribo?
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,047
    Scoham said:

    Reeves who is injured? What about Aribo?

    Sorry - should be Aribo in the middle instead of Reeves
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  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,830
    As of today....

    First Team Squad

    Goalkeepers


    Dillon Philips 2019

    Right Backs

    Chris Solly 2020
    Anfernee Dijksteel 2020 - Pneumonia

    Centre Backs

    Patrick Bauer 2019
    Jason Pearce 2020
    Naby Sarr 2020

    Left Backs


    Lewis Page 2019

    Central Midfielders

    Joe Aribo 2019
    Jake Forster-Caskey 2019
    Darren Pratley - new signing - not fit


    Attacking Midfielders/Wingers

    Mark Marshall 2019
    Tariqe Fosu 2019
    Ben Reeves 2019 - Injured for 3 months
    Billy Clarke 2019 - Injured for 3 months

    Strikers

    Josh Magennis 2019
    Lyle Taylor 2020 - new signing
    Nicky Ajose 2019
    Karlan Grant 2019
    Igor Vetokele 2019 - Injured for 3 months
    Reeco Hackett-Fairchild 2019 - ummm, not sure
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,807
    Not just us (although we do have only one player who has played a hundred games for the Club) but how times have changed from a former era when we were in the same tier of English football:

    From Killer, Flash, Pee Wee, Paddy, Ship Ship Shipperley, Bobby C, Phil W, King Arthur, Les B, Tutty to.................

    "Who's your favourite Charlton player son?"
    "Don't know"
    "Don't know? You must have a favourite player?"
    "No I mean I don't know who plays for them!"
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,047
    edited July 2018

    Not just us (although we do have only one player who has played a hundred games for the Club) but how times have changed from a former era when we were in the same tier of English football:

    From Killer, Flash, Pee Wee, Paddy, Ship Ship Shipperley, Bobby C, Phil W, King Arthur, Les B, Tutty to.................

    "Who's your favourite Charlton player son?"
    "Don't know"
    "Don't know? You must have a favourite player?"
    "No I mean I don't know who plays for them!"

    To be fair the quality since the time we won the league under Powell is so much lower top. That season the top strikers in the division were Jordan Rhodes, BWP, Madine & Ched Evans!
  • Vincenzo
    Vincenzo Posts: 2,911
    I suppose Josh Umerah is U23s too. Seems to have been here forever without breaking through. Must be now or never.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,047
    Vincenzo said:

    I suppose Josh Umerah is U23s too. Seems to have been here forever without breaking through. Must be now or never.

    Umerah must be about 32 by now!
  • smudge7946
    smudge7946 Posts: 4,131
    se9addick said:

    So with the news about Pratley and Djiksteel I make that 15 senior players available for Sunderland.

    Unless a wave of transfers are completed in the next fortnight I’m guessing it will be:

    Phillips

    Solly Bauer Pearce Page

    Marshall Aribo JFC Fosu

    Magennis Taylor

    Subs:

    Ajose
    Grant
    RHF
    You
    Me
    My mum
    My gran

    Uncle Tom Cobleigh
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,807
    The Racing Post have an article in today's pre season assessment in which they look at the outgoings and incomings for all 92 Clubs. They calculate the number of minutes that the players who have left played last season and then work out how many minutes our new recruits would have to play to compensate for that loss.

    Well guess what? We finish 24th of 24 in the division. And each of our new players will have to average 8,047 minutes to compensate for the loss of those that have left. Or, in real terms, each one would have to play almost 90 matches!

    Not something we weren't aware of. But rather sobering nevertheless especially when we're told that at least one of them won't be match fit and we have others from the existing squad injured too.
  • uie2
    uie2 Posts: 4,596
    Cross off Magennis
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384

    The Racing Post have an article in today's pre season assessment in which they look at the outgoings and incomings for all 92 Clubs. They calculate the number of minutes that the players who have left played last season and then work out how many minutes our new recruits would have to play to compensate for that loss.

    Well guess what? We finish 24th of 24 in the division. And each of our new players will have to average 8,047 minutes to compensate for the loss of those that have left. Or, in real terms, each one would have to play almost 90 matches!

    Not something we weren't aware of. But rather sobering nevertheless especially when we're told that at least one of them won't be match fit and we have others from the existing squad injured too.

    With Vetokele and KAG back Bowyer has actually has four extra players available to him, therefore they only need to complete around 45 matches each, i.e. pretty much full league season.

    Clearly we don't need any more signings...
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    As of today....

    First Team Squad

    Goalkeepers


    Dillon Philips 2019

    Right Backs

    Chris Solly 2020
    Anfernee Dijksteel 2020 - Pneumonia

    Centre Backs

    Patrick Bauer 2019
    Jason Pearce 2020
    Naby Sarr 2020

    Left Backs


    Lewis Page 2019

    Central Midfielders

    Joe Aribo 2019
    Jake Forster-Caskey 2019
    Darren Pratley - new signing - not fit


    Attacking Midfielders/Wingers

    Mark Marshall 2019
    Tariqe Fosu 2019
    Ben Reeves 2019 - Injured for 3 months
    Billy Clarke 2019 - Injured for 3 months

    Strikers

    Josh Magennis 2019
    Lyle Taylor 2020 - new signing
    Nicky Ajose 2019
    Karlan Grant 2019
    Igor Vetokele 2019 - Injured for 3 months
    Reeco Hackett-Fairchild 2019 - ummm, not sure