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Bowyer: Pratley won’t be fit for start of season

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  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172
    Our team is so full of raspberries, we should be called Charlton Unathletic.
  • Has Bowyer made it clear what season he will be fit for? 2019 maybe.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,745

    so we've bought a player who cant remember how to kick a football around?

    We’ve bought a player who won’t have played a competitive game for a couple of months and who hasn’t been kicking a ball around with his new teammates
    None of the players has played in a competitive game for a couple of months.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,051

    so we've bought a player who cant remember how to kick a football around?

    We’ve bought a player who won’t have played a competitive game for a couple of months and who hasn’t been kicking a ball around with his new teammates
    Right - but we aren’t playing Sunderland today, there are about four friendlies before we get to that point for him to kick a ball around with his new teammates.

    It’s a bit of a weird statement from Bowyer, unless the player is carrying a bit of an injury that we don’t want to disclose?
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,987
    Its just a weird thing for him to even say. Why not just wait until the season opener and then decide if he's match ready or not. If he has the fitness and then turns in 2 MoM performances against Brighton and Norwich, is he just gonna leave him out because he wants to keep to his word from 2.5 weeks ago.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    This just gets better and better.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,957

    the more I read Bowyer's quotes the less I understand.

    What I read is Bowyer being protective of a player that he's expecting to be a key member of the team this season.
    This is no doubt why Bowyer signed him:

    "A player like Pratley offered another dynamic to other midfielders in Wanderers’ squad.
    His return just proved how much he wanted to play. It really showed how much he was willing to fight for the club.

    Last season was arguably Darren Pratley’s most consistent, both in terms of playing time and quality of performance."

    (Quoted from a Bolton fan's blog recently: https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2018/6/10/17441086/o-captain-my-captain-bolton-wanderers-darren-pratley)

    Pratley is 33 years old and has suffered a broken leg twice in the past couple of years. But he came back to play a vital part in Bolton's relegation escape.
    Bowyer is looking at the big picture. He needs Pratley as a cornerstone of the team. He's not going to be risked uneccessarily.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,051
    Oggy Red said:

    the more I read Bowyer's quotes the less I understand.

    What I read is Bowyer being protective of a player that he's expecting to be a key member of the team this season.
    This is no doubt why Bowyer signed him:

    "A player like Pratley offered another dynamic to other midfielders in Wanderers’ squad.
    His return just proved how much he wanted to play. It really showed how much he was willing to fight for the club.

    Last season was arguably Darren Pratley’s most consistent, both in terms of playing time and quality of performance."

    (Quoted from a Bolton fan's blog recently: https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2018/6/10/17441086/o-captain-my-captain-bolton-wanderers-darren-pratley)

    Pratley is 33 years old and has suffered a broken leg twice in the past couple of years. But he came back to play a vital part in Bolton's relegation escape.
    Bowyer is looking at the big picture. He needs Pratley as a cornerstone of the team. He's not going to be risked uneccessarily.
    But why is it a “risk” for him to play football, that is surely the question?
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,786
    edited July 2018

    Its just a weird thing for him to even say. Why not just wait until the season opener and then decide if he's match ready or not. If he has the fitness and then turns in 2 MoM performances against Brighton and Norwich, is he just gonna leave him out because he wants to keep to his word from 2.5 weeks ago.

    Lack of coaching experience showing perhaps.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,957
    se9addick said:

    Oggy Red said:

    the more I read Bowyer's quotes the less I understand.

    What I read is Bowyer being protective of a player that he's expecting to be a key member of the team this season.
    This is no doubt why Bowyer signed him:

    "A player like Pratley offered another dynamic to other midfielders in Wanderers’ squad.
    His return just proved how much he wanted to play. It really showed how much he was willing to fight for the club.

    Last season was arguably Darren Pratley’s most consistent, both in terms of playing time and quality of performance."

    (Quoted from a Bolton fan's blog recently: https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2018/6/10/17441086/o-captain-my-captain-bolton-wanderers-darren-pratley)

    Pratley is 33 years old and has suffered a broken leg twice in the past couple of years. But he came back to play a vital part in Bolton's relegation escape.
    Bowyer is looking at the big picture. He needs Pratley as a cornerstone of the team. He's not going to be risked uneccessarily.
    But why is it a “risk” for him to play football, that is surely the question?
    Because he's 3 weeks behind Charlton's pre-season training programme, perhaps?


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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,051
    Oggy Red said:

    se9addick said:

    Oggy Red said:

    the more I read Bowyer's quotes the less I understand.

    What I read is Bowyer being protective of a player that he's expecting to be a key member of the team this season.
    This is no doubt why Bowyer signed him:

    "A player like Pratley offered another dynamic to other midfielders in Wanderers’ squad.
    His return just proved how much he wanted to play. It really showed how much he was willing to fight for the club.

    Last season was arguably Darren Pratley’s most consistent, both in terms of playing time and quality of performance."

    (Quoted from a Bolton fan's blog recently: https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2018/6/10/17441086/o-captain-my-captain-bolton-wanderers-darren-pratley)

    Pratley is 33 years old and has suffered a broken leg twice in the past couple of years. But he came back to play a vital part in Bolton's relegation escape.
    Bowyer is looking at the big picture. He needs Pratley as a cornerstone of the team. He's not going to be risked uneccessarily.
    But why is it a “risk” for him to play football, that is surely the question?
    Because he's 3 weeks behind Charlton's pre-season training programme, perhaps?

    But he’s one of the fittest players in the squad, apparently, and has another three or four friendlies to get any required match fitness back.

    It’s very odd for Bowyer to rule him out of the first match of the season a couple of weeks in advance given the above.
  • addick05
    addick05 Posts: 2,348

    If he's 33 and came second in the team running test, then how the fuck can he not be ready to play a football match in two and a half weeks time? We have 3 more friendlies to get him ready.

    Also doesn't say much for our squad if they're getting beaten by an unfit 33 year old.

    However looking at the bigger picture, rushing him to play in a game when he isn't ready is pointless, i'd rather he took the extra week and was ready for Shrewsbury.

    this all day long, how the fuck with over 2 weeks to go, can he not be fit enough
    Bow isn't saying he won't be 'fit' (if you mean being able to simply run around for 90 ,minutes)-if I read his statement correctly- just that he has not done enough ball work - especially with the team.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,957
    se9addick said:

    Oggy Red said:

    se9addick said:

    Oggy Red said:

    the more I read Bowyer's quotes the less I understand.

    What I read is Bowyer being protective of a player that he's expecting to be a key member of the team this season.
    This is no doubt why Bowyer signed him:

    "A player like Pratley offered another dynamic to other midfielders in Wanderers’ squad.
    His return just proved how much he wanted to play. It really showed how much he was willing to fight for the club.

    Last season was arguably Darren Pratley’s most consistent, both in terms of playing time and quality of performance."

    (Quoted from a Bolton fan's blog recently: https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2018/6/10/17441086/o-captain-my-captain-bolton-wanderers-darren-pratley)

    Pratley is 33 years old and has suffered a broken leg twice in the past couple of years. But he came back to play a vital part in Bolton's relegation escape.
    Bowyer is looking at the big picture. He needs Pratley as a cornerstone of the team. He's not going to be risked uneccessarily.
    But why is it a “risk” for him to play football, that is surely the question?
    Because he's 3 weeks behind Charlton's pre-season training programme, perhaps?

    But he’s one of the fittest players in the squad, apparently, and has another three or four friendlies to get any required match fitness back.

    It’s very odd for Bowyer to rule him out of the first match of the season a couple of weeks in advance given the above.
    Bowyer must have his reasons; he's hardly going to make these decisions on some random whim.

  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,051
    Oggy Red said:

    se9addick said:

    Oggy Red said:

    se9addick said:

    Oggy Red said:

    the more I read Bowyer's quotes the less I understand.

    What I read is Bowyer being protective of a player that he's expecting to be a key member of the team this season.
    This is no doubt why Bowyer signed him:

    "A player like Pratley offered another dynamic to other midfielders in Wanderers’ squad.
    His return just proved how much he wanted to play. It really showed how much he was willing to fight for the club.

    Last season was arguably Darren Pratley’s most consistent, both in terms of playing time and quality of performance."

    (Quoted from a Bolton fan's blog recently: https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2018/6/10/17441086/o-captain-my-captain-bolton-wanderers-darren-pratley)

    Pratley is 33 years old and has suffered a broken leg twice in the past couple of years. But he came back to play a vital part in Bolton's relegation escape.
    Bowyer is looking at the big picture. He needs Pratley as a cornerstone of the team. He's not going to be risked uneccessarily.
    But why is it a “risk” for him to play football, that is surely the question?
    Because he's 3 weeks behind Charlton's pre-season training programme, perhaps?

    But he’s one of the fittest players in the squad, apparently, and has another three or four friendlies to get any required match fitness back.

    It’s very odd for Bowyer to rule him out of the first match of the season a couple of weeks in advance given the above.
    Bowyer must have his reasons; he's hardly going to make these decisions on some random whim.

    Agreed, I’m just curious as to what those reasons are.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,593
    if Rohan Ince signs you can add him to the list of won't be ready for the start of the season
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    It's a quote/statement that the Liverpool Lip would have used if still here.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited July 2018
    Is it 'Prately' that rhymes with plate-ly?
    Or 'Prately' that rhymes with flatly?

    (Asking for a friend)
  • uie2
    uie2 Posts: 4,596

    “Darren is in good shape. It’s just the football, he’s going to be rusty with the ball, so he won’t be playing against Sunderland. He’s got to catch up and get himself ready.

    “There’s no point chucking him in the deep end and getting him injured at Sunderland. He won’t start against Sunderland but we will try to get him as many minutes as possible during pre-season.

    “I want to chuck him in and amongst the lads as soon as possible. Saturday is probably too soon but he might get some minutes on Tuesday.”

    I’m not sure everything adds up here, it’s all very contradictory. He’s in good shape, he’s 2nd in the fitness tests but he’s not kicked a ball and needs minutes. But he’s not being played in the friendlies against non league teams which would give those minutes.

    He’s been kicking a ball for nearly 30 years. What’s he missed out on, a month? It’s not like he missed all of last season and needs to slowly build.

    Strange one

    He'd still be better an the rest ;)
  • uie2
    uie2 Posts: 4,596

    if Rohan Ince signs you can add him to the list of won't be ready for the start of the season

    And Dawkins? Or not !?
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,468
    I mean it's not surprising given when he signed. But it's still frustrating.

    I think Maloney looks a very promising player. I do not think he's ready to start regularly in this league.

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  • uie2 said:

    if Rohan Ince signs you can add him to the list of won't be ready for the start of the season

    And Dawkins? Or not !?
    Dawkins should definitely be ready as he's been playing in the pre season games.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,628
    Oggy Red said:

    se9addick said:

    Oggy Red said:

    se9addick said:

    Oggy Red said:

    the more I read Bowyer's quotes the less I understand.

    What I read is Bowyer being protective of a player that he's expecting to be a key member of the team this season.
    This is no doubt why Bowyer signed him:

    "A player like Pratley offered another dynamic to other midfielders in Wanderers’ squad.
    His return just proved how much he wanted to play. It really showed how much he was willing to fight for the club.

    Last season was arguably Darren Pratley’s most consistent, both in terms of playing time and quality of performance."

    (Quoted from a Bolton fan's blog recently: https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2018/6/10/17441086/o-captain-my-captain-bolton-wanderers-darren-pratley)

    Pratley is 33 years old and has suffered a broken leg twice in the past couple of years. But he came back to play a vital part in Bolton's relegation escape.
    Bowyer is looking at the big picture. He needs Pratley as a cornerstone of the team. He's not going to be risked uneccessarily.
    But why is it a “risk” for him to play football, that is surely the question?
    Because he's 3 weeks behind Charlton's pre-season training programme, perhaps?

    But he’s one of the fittest players in the squad, apparently, and has another three or four friendlies to get any required match fitness back.

    It’s very odd for Bowyer to rule him out of the first match of the season a couple of weeks in advance given the above.
    Bowyer must have his reasons; he's hardly going to make these decisions on some random whim.

    We don’t want to risk him getting injured before we sell him.

  • Horsfield9
    Horsfield9 Posts: 3,082
    JamesSeed said:

    Is it 'Prately' that rhymes with plate-ly?
    Or 'Prately' that rhymes with flatly?

    (Asking for a friend)

    No, it's Pratley that rhymes with Forster-Caskey !
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    We all know when he finally does start that he will get injured in his first or second game and be out for most of the season!
  • smudge7946
    smudge7946 Posts: 4,131
    Oggy Red said:

    the more I read Bowyer's quotes the less I understand.

    What I read is Bowyer being protective of a player that he's expecting to be a key member of the team this season.
    This is no doubt why Bowyer signed him:

    "A player like Pratley offered another dynamic to other midfielders in Wanderers’ squad.
    His return just proved how much he wanted to play. It really showed how much he was willing to fight for the club.

    Last season was arguably Darren Pratley’s most consistent, both in terms of playing time and quality of performance."

    (Quoted from a Bolton fan's blog recently: https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2018/6/10/17441086/o-captain-my-captain-bolton-wanderers-darren-pratley)

    Pratley is 33 years old and has suffered a broken leg twice in the past couple of years. But he came back to play a vital part in Bolton's relegation escape.
    Bowyer is looking at the big picture. He needs Pratley as a cornerstone of the team. He's not going to be risked uneccessarily.
    I think what bowyer is trying to say is.
    "Oh heck. Ive signed a lemon.'
  • RaplhMilne
    RaplhMilne Posts: 4,603

    On the plus side I heard Cory Gibbs is almost ready to return to training...

    Gary Rowett could be back soon as well !

  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    utter bollox of a season already -----we ain't even the pot that others piss in
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380

    utter bollox of a season already -----we ain't even the pot that others piss in

    And a very good morning to you too GH!