The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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You never know, they may surprise us all.ross1 said:Good luck with that CASTrust, but don't hold your breath for an informative reply
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agree with others, well done - however I suspect we could all have a go at typing the sort of bulk standard response you will receive and not be too far from the truth.0
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Every little helpsDavidsmith said:
It is very hard to see how there can ever be a takeover unless Roland drops his price.seth plum said:After 5pm today (or is it 7pm?) There is little point of urgency in having any kind of takeover.
There has been endless speculation, and also what I take to be deliberate misinformation from the club (take a bow comms team) which will now be followed by more deliberate misinformation as we stagger on.
In terms of reputation, if not in terms of his job, Lee Bowyer is the safest manager in football. ' It is what it is' could also be translated into 'I'm all right Jack whatever happens' (although the thin squad of players have upped their effort under Bowyer).
When Keohane or some other supplicant is established to make a smaller club whilst they drive a bigger car, that will be that.
Even if Bowyer is a miracle worker (he will have to be in order to magic decent players out of thin air) it is now half a second to midnight to have a chance to make the season have any potential.
As fans we have been royally played. Two people, Richard Murray and Roland Duchatelet, are responsible for this. When they next hold forth (probably via their underlings) it is worth putting everything through your bullshit filter, but don't be surprised when you find it is still bullshit coming out the other side.
As we have seen, at least 4 buyers have now walked away as unable to get to his offer level or agree terms.
He is stuck with a huge amount of Debt ,no security and limited assets left to sell, all the potential buyers know this and if they are smart will sit back and await price reduction.
That is bad for all of us CAFC lovers, but for buyers with no love for the Club ,who see an investment opportunity at the right price,their best bet is to wait.
He cannot asset strip beyond the squad as others control the assets , stopping water and lights etc will save him pennies, eventually as we sit mid table and he has run up another 5 or 6mn of debt the penny will drop.
He has little room to negotiate as his cards are poor, writing to EFL as Card have done will do little, what can they do all the time he is funding the Club.
It is a waiting game, and all the buyers are saving money by standing watching on the sidelines.3 -
My commiserations to the groom. Take the wedding gift from Uncle Roly back now.RedChaser said:
Wouldn't be his 'niece' getting married by any chance would it Henners?Henry Irving said:
He has a family wedding coming up so I'd guess all the recruitment will be done there.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
He'll likely recruit via Gumtree and postcards in newsagents' windows for our executiveScoham said:
No vacancies on the OS at the moment...oldbloke said:Are the roles being advertised as 1 month rolling contracts?
https://www.cafc.co.uk/hr
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Lets hope so, but what can they do?Nug said:
Every little helpsDavidsmith said:
It is very hard to see how there can ever be a takeover unless Roland drops his price.seth plum said:After 5pm today (or is it 7pm?) There is little point of urgency in having any kind of takeover.
There has been endless speculation, and also what I take to be deliberate misinformation from the club (take a bow comms team) which will now be followed by more deliberate misinformation as we stagger on.
In terms of reputation, if not in terms of his job, Lee Bowyer is the safest manager in football. ' It is what it is' could also be translated into 'I'm all right Jack whatever happens' (although the thin squad of players have upped their effort under Bowyer).
When Keohane or some other supplicant is established to make a smaller club whilst they drive a bigger car, that will be that.
Even if Bowyer is a miracle worker (he will have to be in order to magic decent players out of thin air) it is now half a second to midnight to have a chance to make the season have any potential.
As fans we have been royally played. Two people, Richard Murray and Roland Duchatelet, are responsible for this. When they next hold forth (probably via their underlings) it is worth putting everything through your bullshit filter, but don't be surprised when you find it is still bullshit coming out the other side.
As we have seen, at least 4 buyers have now walked away as unable to get to his offer level or agree terms.
He is stuck with a huge amount of Debt ,no security and limited assets left to sell, all the potential buyers know this and if they are smart will sit back and await price reduction.
That is bad for all of us CAFC lovers, but for buyers with no love for the Club ,who see an investment opportunity at the right price,their best bet is to wait.
He cannot asset strip beyond the squad as others control the assets , stopping water and lights etc will save him pennies, eventually as we sit mid table and he has run up another 5 or 6mn of debt the penny will drop.
He has little room to negotiate as his cards are poor, writing to EFL as Card have done will do little, what can they do all the time he is funding the Club.
It is a waiting game, and all the buyers are saving money by standing watching on the sidelines.0 -
We're still crazy after all these years.raytreacy69 said:How about -Keep the customer satisfied
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I don’t know but it’s better than doing nothing surely?Davidsmith said:
Lets hope so, but what can they do?Nug said:
Every little helpsDavidsmith said:
It is very hard to see how there can ever be a takeover unless Roland drops his price.seth plum said:After 5pm today (or is it 7pm?) There is little point of urgency in having any kind of takeover.
There has been endless speculation, and also what I take to be deliberate misinformation from the club (take a bow comms team) which will now be followed by more deliberate misinformation as we stagger on.
In terms of reputation, if not in terms of his job, Lee Bowyer is the safest manager in football. ' It is what it is' could also be translated into 'I'm all right Jack whatever happens' (although the thin squad of players have upped their effort under Bowyer).
When Keohane or some other supplicant is established to make a smaller club whilst they drive a bigger car, that will be that.
Even if Bowyer is a miracle worker (he will have to be in order to magic decent players out of thin air) it is now half a second to midnight to have a chance to make the season have any potential.
As fans we have been royally played. Two people, Richard Murray and Roland Duchatelet, are responsible for this. When they next hold forth (probably via their underlings) it is worth putting everything through your bullshit filter, but don't be surprised when you find it is still bullshit coming out the other side.
As we have seen, at least 4 buyers have now walked away as unable to get to his offer level or agree terms.
He is stuck with a huge amount of Debt ,no security and limited assets left to sell, all the potential buyers know this and if they are smart will sit back and await price reduction.
That is bad for all of us CAFC lovers, but for buyers with no love for the Club ,who see an investment opportunity at the right price,their best bet is to wait.
He cannot asset strip beyond the squad as others control the assets , stopping water and lights etc will save him pennies, eventually as we sit mid table and he has run up another 5 or 6mn of debt the penny will drop.
He has little room to negotiate as his cards are poor, writing to EFL as Card have done will do little, what can they do all the time he is funding the Club.
It is a waiting game, and all the buyers are saving money by standing watching on the sidelines.5 -
Think about what the fuck they should do in the future by changing their MO and rewriting the rule book.Davidsmith said:
Lets hope so, but what can they do?Nug said:
Every little helpsDavidsmith said:
It is very hard to see how there can ever be a takeover unless Roland drops his price.seth plum said:After 5pm today (or is it 7pm?) There is little point of urgency in having any kind of takeover.
There has been endless speculation, and also what I take to be deliberate misinformation from the club (take a bow comms team) which will now be followed by more deliberate misinformation as we stagger on.
In terms of reputation, if not in terms of his job, Lee Bowyer is the safest manager in football. ' It is what it is' could also be translated into 'I'm all right Jack whatever happens' (although the thin squad of players have upped their effort under Bowyer).
When Keohane or some other supplicant is established to make a smaller club whilst they drive a bigger car, that will be that.
Even if Bowyer is a miracle worker (he will have to be in order to magic decent players out of thin air) it is now half a second to midnight to have a chance to make the season have any potential.
As fans we have been royally played. Two people, Richard Murray and Roland Duchatelet, are responsible for this. When they next hold forth (probably via their underlings) it is worth putting everything through your bullshit filter, but don't be surprised when you find it is still bullshit coming out the other side.
As we have seen, at least 4 buyers have now walked away as unable to get to his offer level or agree terms.
He is stuck with a huge amount of Debt ,no security and limited assets left to sell, all the potential buyers know this and if they are smart will sit back and await price reduction.
That is bad for all of us CAFC lovers, but for buyers with no love for the Club ,who see an investment opportunity at the right price,their best bet is to wait.
He cannot asset strip beyond the squad as others control the assets , stopping water and lights etc will save him pennies, eventually as we sit mid table and he has run up another 5 or 6mn of debt the penny will drop.
He has little room to negotiate as his cards are poor, writing to EFL as Card have done will do little, what can they do all the time he is funding the Club.
It is a waiting game, and all the buyers are saving money by standing watching on the sidelines.
Yes.....too late for us but they need naming and shaming as far as I’m concerned.
Not so much as a squeak from them or the merest hint of sympathy for our plight.
They shamefully fiddle while Rome burns!
Where are they when we most need them.......answer with their heads in the sand.....that’s where.5 -
Yes but I do declare I took some comfort there.sm said:
We're still crazy after all these years.raytreacy69 said:How about -Keep the customer satisfied
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Good letter from CAST but I think it could have gone further in questioning how RD is deemed a suitable owner given the debt, current squad, caretaker manager since March, youth players not being fed or watered and the lack of any SMT.5
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Am I naive in thinking that they could write something to Roland, a polite wtf or invite him to a meeting, they wouldn’t need to acknowledge the cast letter but if it leaked out that the EFL was questioning him about being crap as well he might consider that a tad embarrassing...?Davidsmith said:
Lets hope so, but what can they do?Nug said:
Every little helpsDavidsmith said:
It is very hard to see how there can ever be a takeover unless Roland drops his price.seth plum said:After 5pm today (or is it 7pm?) There is little point of urgency in having any kind of takeover.
There has been endless speculation, and also what I take to be deliberate misinformation from the club (take a bow comms team) which will now be followed by more deliberate misinformation as we stagger on.
In terms of reputation, if not in terms of his job, Lee Bowyer is the safest manager in football. ' It is what it is' could also be translated into 'I'm all right Jack whatever happens' (although the thin squad of players have upped their effort under Bowyer).
When Keohane or some other supplicant is established to make a smaller club whilst they drive a bigger car, that will be that.
Even if Bowyer is a miracle worker (he will have to be in order to magic decent players out of thin air) it is now half a second to midnight to have a chance to make the season have any potential.
As fans we have been royally played. Two people, Richard Murray and Roland Duchatelet, are responsible for this. When they next hold forth (probably via their underlings) it is worth putting everything through your bullshit filter, but don't be surprised when you find it is still bullshit coming out the other side.
As we have seen, at least 4 buyers have now walked away as unable to get to his offer level or agree terms.
He is stuck with a huge amount of Debt ,no security and limited assets left to sell, all the potential buyers know this and if they are smart will sit back and await price reduction.
That is bad for all of us CAFC lovers, but for buyers with no love for the Club ,who see an investment opportunity at the right price,their best bet is to wait.
He cannot asset strip beyond the squad as others control the assets , stopping water and lights etc will save him pennies, eventually as we sit mid table and he has run up another 5 or 6mn of debt the penny will drop.
He has little room to negotiate as his cards are poor, writing to EFL as Card have done will do little, what can they do all the time he is funding the Club.
It is a waiting game, and all the buyers are saving money by standing watching on the sidelines.0 -
The Supporters Trust are damned, rightly IMO, if they are seen doing nothing so they should, IMO, be praised for being seen to do something.
I doubt the EFL will say "by jove, this Duchatelet chap is a bounder, we shall blackball him" but I doubt CAST expect that response.
As I said about three years ago we fans have no single knock out punch so we have to keep jabbing away, keep the story in the news, keep annoying the authorities, keeping upsetting Duchatelet (and I was told by his friend in St Truiden that it annoys him a lot).
Keep punching. Keep ringing the EFL.29 -
Firstly it's not in the remit of EFL to question the quality or otherwise of existing owners and so they will make no comment on how bad Rd is. The letter to them reflects this and at least the first two questions should be answered without hiding behind confidentiality.
Secondly I think it is mistaken to think that the closing of the Transfer Window means that an early takeover would not be welcome and in fact is less likely. It might now suit both parties. RD knows that he will get no money on the sale of Pope or Lookman but that he will have to carry on losing money. The anger of some fans could boil over into almost any action now and he (yes even he) will be aware of this.
As for the buyers, if there are in fact genuine and viable buyers there (and this has always been a big if) they would not now have any pressure from fans to bring in new players and could concentrate on stabilising the club and redressing some of RD's idiocies. Fans would not expect miracles on the field but would be grateful for a change of direction as to how the club is run7 -
Football is not just passing us by - football and CAFC are heading in opposite directions.
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Bexleyboy message.....
Still on ... RD and Aussies waiting on third party to finish there checks and investigation
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That's a reliefRedJohn said:Bexleyboy message.....
Still on ... RD and Aussies waiting on third party to finish there checks and investigation6 -
Which is exactly where we've been for ages.1
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This is all getting very exciting - it's not long now.
RolandOut!2 -
...like the whores on seventh avenue where I took some comfort there...la la la la....2
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Tbf this might well be true. RD said he’d start appointing people at the start of the season if it hadn’t go through and he still hasn’t so I’mRedJohn said:Bexleyboy message.....
Still on ... RD and Aussies waiting on third party to finish there checks and investigation
Guessing they’re close, but we’ve been there x26258 times before4 -
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Fuck standards....lets just go wild and revel in optimism.12
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If this happens I'm getting Colin's face tattooed on my arse.7
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Uboat said:
If this happens I'm getting Colin's arse tattooed on my face.
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Beat me to it.1
