The Paul Hunter Classic is currently ongoing in Germany the last 2 days have been the amateur rounds, the pros entered today but in the early rounds there are so many matches I will be here all day typing, so just going to do any shocks or any ametuers beating pros for now.
I will look at doing full updates from round 4 or round 5
The Paul Hunter Classic is currently ongoing in Germany the last 2 days have been the amateur rounds, the pros entered today but in the early rounds there are so many matches I will be here all day typing, so just going to do any shocks or any ametuers beating pros for now.
I will look at doing full updates from round 4 or round 5
The Paul Hunter Classic is currently ongoing in Germany the last 2 days have been the amateur rounds, the pros entered today but in the early rounds there are so many matches I will be here all day typing, so just going to do any shocks or any ametuers beating pros for now.
I will look at doing full updates from round 4 or round 5
So a quick update Its been hard to keep up because the format is shit, half the draw played 3 matches on Friday, other half played 3 matches yesterday.
Anyway we are down to the final 16 players, so he is a quick update on shock results or surprising results.
Harvey Chandler 4-1 Alexander Ursenbacher Harvey Chandler 4-0 Mark Joyce Great day on Friday for Harvey with 2 good wins dropping 1 frame
Jackson Page 4-0 Zhou Yuelong Jackson Page 4-1 Ian Burns Jackson Page 4-3 Sam Baird 17 year old Amateur Welshman, with 3 big wins on Friday
Thats it for players have great runs, there was the odd shock result like Murphy losing to O'Brien.
But moving on today starts the final rounds and with no protests i can keep more upto date myself.
Zhang Anda (101) v Harvey Chandler (94) Mark Davis (42) v Peter Lines (75) Peter Ebdon (55) v Thepchaiya Un-Nooh (63) Jack Lisowski (21) v Jimmy Robertson (36) Jackson Page(A) v Scott Donaldson (54) Lee Walker (99) v Chris Wakelin (46) Daniel Wells (62) v Billy Joe Castle (88) Kyren Wilson (9) v Hammad Miah (117)
Zhang Anda 4-0 Harvey Chandler Peter Lines 4-2 Mark Davis Peter Ebdon 4-0 Thepchaiya Un-Nooh Jack Lisowski 4-0 Jimmy Robertson Scott Donaldson 4-2 Jackson Page Lee Walker 4-2 Chris Wakelin Daniel Wells 4-2 Billy Joe Castle Kyren Wilson 4-1 Hammad Miah
Thought I would put this on here as we are a few tournaments in now. Average shot time of the 128 tour players
1 Thepchaiya Un-Nooh-16.18 2 Judd Trump-16.67 3 Jack Lisowski-17.27 4 Zhao Xintong-17.33 5 Ding Junhui-18.04 6 Mark Allen-18.13 7 Robbie Williams-18.44 8 Robert Milkins-18.53 9 Mark Williams-18.61 10 Joe Perry-19.09 11 Graeme Dott-19.18 12 Luca Brecel-19.39 13 Michael White-19.73 14 Ryan Day-20.01 15 Hammad Miah-20.13 16 Andrew Higginson-20.16 17 Jimmy White-20.46 18 Hossein Vafaei-20.52 19 Alfie Burden-20.57 20 Soheil Vahedi-20.61 21 Shaun Murphy-20.62 22 Matthew Stevens-20.65 23 John Higgins-20.68 24 Tom Ford-20.71 25 Mike Dunn-20.75 26 Billy Castle-20.87 27 Gary Wilson-20.90 28 Michael Georgiou-20.92 29 Jamie Jones-20.95 30 Ben Woollaston-20.97 31 Jimmy Robertson-21.14 32 Ken Doherty-21.51 33 James Wattana-21.59 34 Zhang Jiankang-21.61 35 Rhys Clark-21.72 36 Martin Gould-21.82 37 Marco Fu-21.88 38 Oliver Lines-21.92 39 Ali Carter-21.98 40 Neil Robertson-22.08 41 Mark King-22.08 42 Kurt Maflin-22.08 43 Ian Burns-22.14 44 Stephen Maguire-22.24 45 Gerard Greene-22.30 46 Liam Highfield-22.51 47 Barry Hawkins-22.63 48 Xiao Guodong-22.71 49 Eden Sharav-22.76 50 Joe Swail-22.87 51 Yuan SiJun-22.96 52 Hamza Akbar-22.98 53 Yan Bingtao-22.99 54 Peter Lines-23.23 55 Lyu Haotian-23.24 56 Chris Wakelin-23.31 57 Dominic Dale-23.38 58 Harvey Chandler-23.45 59 Allan Taylor-23.47 60 Ricky Walden-23.56 61 Luo Honghao-23.63 62 Sanderson Lam-23.72 63 Alexander Ursenbacher-23.76 64 Mark Davis-23.89 65 Craig Steadman-23.90 66 Zhang Yong-23.91 67 Daniel Wells-23.92 68 Kyren Wilson-23.94 69 Sam Baird-23.97 70 Mark Selby-23.99 71 David Gilbert-24.00 72 Matthew Selt-24.14 73 Liang Wenbo-24.34 74 Niu Zhuang-24.62 75 Li Hang-24.63 76 Stuart Bingham-24.68 77 Michael Holt-24.96 78 Jamie Clarke-25.02 79 Kishan Hirani-25.14 80 Jordan Brown-25.20 81 Thor Chuan Leong-25.51 82 Fan Zhengyi-25.52 83 Zhou Yuelong-25.54 84 Elliot Slessor-25.63 85 Duane Jones-25.66 86 Robin Hull-25.82 87 Stuart Carrington-26.23 88 Simon Lichtenberg-26.28 89 Anthony McGill-26.32 90 Tian Pengfei-26.36 91 Scott Donaldson-26.38 92 Sean O'Sullivan-26.62 93 Sunny Akani-26.87 94 Basem Eltahhan-26.96 95 Mark Joyce-26.98 96 Noppon Saengkham-27.05 97 John Astley-27.07 98 Alan McManus-27.23 99 Ross Muir-27.34 100 Zhang Anda-27.56 101 Chen Zifan-27.66 102 Nigel Bond-27.88 103 Fergal O'Brien-27.91 104 Ashley Carty-27.96 105 Joe O'Connor-28.01 106 Li Yuan-28.08 107 Lu Ning-28.27 108 Rory McLeod-28.43 109 Andy Lee-28.49 110 Ashley Hugill-28.69 111 Anthony Hamilton-28.78 112 Sam Craigie-28.99 113 Xu Si-29.06 114 Peter Ebdon-29.08 115 Adam Stefanow-29.10 116 Jak Jones-29.27 117 Mei Xiwen-29.46 118 Paul Davison-29.71 119 Chen Feilong-29.81 120 Chris Totten-30.00 121 Martin O'Donnell-30.03 122 Lukas Kleckers-31.16 123 Lee Walker-31.45 124 Rod Lawler-33.43 125 Yu DeLu-n/a 126 Mohamed Ibrahim-n/a 127 Ronnie O'Sullivan n/a 128 Cao Yupeng-n/a
Not at all surprised by the top 3, other than Ronnie they would be the quickest player on tour Thepchaiya could finish ahead of Ronnie come the end lf the season a very quick player.
Thirty seconds average shot time is a disgrace and there are a lot of players around that mark. When breakbuilding players should know what shot to play, most of the time, without even thinking.
This is where I disagree, Some players are naturally slow, if they headed into 35 to 40 seconds I would agree but 30 seconds IMO is fine especially if there is alot of safety play in these frames.
I should point out the AST as from this season is being looked at by Barry Hearn and I am not sure how often I think its quarterly but anyone over 30 seconds will get a letter regarding playing to slow.
Barry has done alot for the game but IMO this could be bad, as someone who loves snooker for me its not just about big breaks and watching a frame be over in 10 minutes, I love watching safety frames that last 30/45 minutes.
As I said before some players natural game is a bit slower, not everyone can see the shot as quickly as others and forcing them to speed up could cost them there match and earnings.
Would Peter Ebdon have won the World Championship if he was forced to speed up.
Thirty seconds average shot time is a disgrace and there are a lot of players around that mark. When breakbuilding players should know what shot to play, most of the time, without even thinking.
I agree , i get it in pool alot people taking 2 minutes a shot sometimes longer. Even worse when its a straight forward shot and your playing people who are supposed to be good players.
Yes, some people naturally will play slow. But its negative playing too slow, 30 seconds is ok but anymore is too much other than one offs or where they have a tricky decision.
Thirty seconds average shot time is a disgrace and there are a lot of players around that mark. When breakbuilding players should know what shot to play, most of the time, without even thinking.
I agree , i get it in pool alot people taking 2 minutes a shot sometimes longer. Even worse when its a straight forward shot and your playing people who are supposed to be good players.
Yes, some people naturally will play slow. But its negative playing too slow, 30 seconds is ok but anymore is too much other than one offs or where they have a tricky decision.
I have played pool at national team event in Yarmouth and they use the clock. It's 60 seconds or it's a foul and they call out at 30 seconds. I have hardly ever not played my shot before the 30 second call - it's a lot longer than it sounds. Not everyone can play as quick as O'Sullivan but some players deliberately play slowly to put the opponent off. What annoys is me when it's obvious what shot to play and they look at every other possibility but end up playing the obvious shot.
Thirty seconds average shot time is a disgrace and there are a lot of players around that mark. When breakbuilding players should know what shot to play, most of the time, without even thinking.
I agree , i get it in pool alot people taking 2 minutes a shot sometimes longer. Even worse when its a straight forward shot and your playing people who are supposed to be good players.
Yes, some people naturally will play slow. But its negative playing too slow, 30 seconds is ok but anymore is too much other than one offs or where they have a tricky decision.
I have played pool at national team event in Yarmouth and they use the clock. It's 60 seconds or it's a foul and they call out at 30 seconds. I have hardly ever not played my shot before the 30 second call - it's a lot longer than it sounds. Not everyone can play as quick as O'Sullivan but some players deliberately play slowly to put the opponent off. What annoys is me when it's obvious what shot to play and they look at every other possibility but end up playing the obvious shot.
Exactly, we have a rule that we can implement in our local league where 2 minutes per shot. Although that is far too long, as you say 30 seconds is plenty, there are a couple of pros who struggle with a 30 seconds clock (Liam Dunster specifically if you follow pool much) 1 time out per frame is normally good as your 1st visit after the break will take a bit longer to map out.
Do you still play pool? We have Central London Sunday , first season county for Kent Blackball so our team is a mixed bag. I played a couple of World rules comps Friday/ Saturday in Chatham only £5/£10, had a couple of pros/england level, dont really like world rules but will play odd one.
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Jak Jones 4-2 Graeme Dott
Ross Muir 4-2 Ricky Walden
Gary Wilson 4-3 Shaun Murphy
Michael gets the 140th 147 in snooker history and his 1st.
I will look at doing full updates from round 4 or round 5
Reggie Edwards(A) 4-3 Andy Lee (101)
Brian Cini(A)4-0 Sean O'Sullivan (98)
Jackson Page(A) 4-0 Zhou Yuelong (32)
Allan Taylor(78) 4-0 Rory McLeod(61)
Jamie has made the 141st 147 and his 1st
10k each now
Unless a 3rd person gets 1
Its been hard to keep up because the format is shit, half the draw played 3 matches on Friday, other half played 3 matches yesterday.
Anyway we are down to the final 16 players, so he is a quick update on shock results or surprising results.
Harvey Chandler 4-1 Alexander Ursenbacher
Harvey Chandler 4-0 Mark Joyce
Great day on Friday for Harvey with 2 good wins dropping 1 frame
Jackson Page 4-0 Zhou Yuelong
Jackson Page 4-1 Ian Burns
Jackson Page 4-3 Sam Baird
17 year old Amateur Welshman, with 3 big wins on Friday
Thats it for players have great runs, there was the odd shock result like Murphy losing to O'Brien.
But moving on today starts the final rounds and with no protests i can keep more upto date myself.
Zhang Anda (101) v Harvey Chandler (94)
Mark Davis (42) v Peter Lines (75)
Peter Ebdon (55) v Thepchaiya Un-Nooh (63)
Jack Lisowski (21) v Jimmy Robertson (36)
Jackson Page(A) v Scott Donaldson (54)
Lee Walker (99) v Chris Wakelin (46)
Daniel Wells (62) v Billy Joe Castle (88)
Kyren Wilson (9) v Hammad Miah (117)
Results
Zhang Anda 4-0 Harvey Chandler
Peter Lines 4-2 Mark Davis
Peter Ebdon 4-0 Thepchaiya Un-Nooh
Jack Lisowski 4-0 Jimmy Robertson
Scott Donaldson 4-2 Jackson Page
Lee Walker 4-2 Chris Wakelin
Daniel Wells 4-2 Billy Joe Castle
Kyren Wilson 4-1 Hammad Miah
Quarter Final Matches
Zhang Anda (101) v Scott Donaldson (54)
Peter Ebdon (55) v Lee Walker (99)
Kyren Wilson (9) v Daniel Wells (62)
Jack Lisowski (21) v Peter Lines (75)
Quarter Final
Results
Scott Donaldson 4-3 Zhang Anda
Peter Ebdon 4-1 Lee Walker
Kyren Wilson 4-3 Daniel Wells
Peter Lines 4-3 Jack Lisowski
Semi Finals
Scott Donaldson (54) v Peter Ebdon (55)
Kyren Wilson (9) v Peter Lines (75)
Semi Final
Peter Ebdon 4-1 Scott Donaldson
Kyren Wilson 4-3 Peter Lines
Final
Peter Ebdon (55) v Kyren Wilson (9)
Kyren Wilson 4-2 Peter Ebdon
Kyren wins his 2nd ranking event
His 1st coming back i 2015
Average shot time of the 128 tour players
1 Thepchaiya Un-Nooh-16.18
2 Judd Trump-16.67
3 Jack Lisowski-17.27
4 Zhao Xintong-17.33
5 Ding Junhui-18.04
6 Mark Allen-18.13
7 Robbie Williams-18.44
8 Robert Milkins-18.53
9 Mark Williams-18.61
10 Joe Perry-19.09
11 Graeme Dott-19.18
12 Luca Brecel-19.39
13 Michael White-19.73
14 Ryan Day-20.01
15 Hammad Miah-20.13
16 Andrew Higginson-20.16
17 Jimmy White-20.46
18 Hossein Vafaei-20.52
19 Alfie Burden-20.57
20 Soheil Vahedi-20.61
21 Shaun Murphy-20.62
22 Matthew Stevens-20.65
23 John Higgins-20.68
24 Tom Ford-20.71
25 Mike Dunn-20.75
26 Billy Castle-20.87
27 Gary Wilson-20.90
28 Michael Georgiou-20.92
29 Jamie Jones-20.95
30 Ben Woollaston-20.97
31 Jimmy Robertson-21.14
32 Ken Doherty-21.51
33 James Wattana-21.59
34 Zhang Jiankang-21.61
35 Rhys Clark-21.72
36 Martin Gould-21.82
37 Marco Fu-21.88
38 Oliver Lines-21.92
39 Ali Carter-21.98
40 Neil Robertson-22.08
41 Mark King-22.08
42 Kurt Maflin-22.08
43 Ian Burns-22.14
44 Stephen Maguire-22.24
45 Gerard Greene-22.30
46 Liam Highfield-22.51
47 Barry Hawkins-22.63
48 Xiao Guodong-22.71
49 Eden Sharav-22.76
50 Joe Swail-22.87
51 Yuan SiJun-22.96
52 Hamza Akbar-22.98
53 Yan Bingtao-22.99
54 Peter Lines-23.23
55 Lyu Haotian-23.24
56 Chris Wakelin-23.31
57 Dominic Dale-23.38
58 Harvey Chandler-23.45
59 Allan Taylor-23.47
60 Ricky Walden-23.56
61 Luo Honghao-23.63
62 Sanderson Lam-23.72
63 Alexander Ursenbacher-23.76
64 Mark Davis-23.89
65 Craig Steadman-23.90
66 Zhang Yong-23.91
67 Daniel Wells-23.92
68 Kyren Wilson-23.94
69 Sam Baird-23.97
70 Mark Selby-23.99
71 David Gilbert-24.00
72 Matthew Selt-24.14
73 Liang Wenbo-24.34
74 Niu Zhuang-24.62
75 Li Hang-24.63
76 Stuart Bingham-24.68
77 Michael Holt-24.96
78 Jamie Clarke-25.02
79 Kishan Hirani-25.14
80 Jordan Brown-25.20
81 Thor Chuan Leong-25.51
82 Fan Zhengyi-25.52
83 Zhou Yuelong-25.54
84 Elliot Slessor-25.63
85 Duane Jones-25.66
86 Robin Hull-25.82
87 Stuart Carrington-26.23
88 Simon Lichtenberg-26.28
89 Anthony McGill-26.32
90 Tian Pengfei-26.36
91 Scott Donaldson-26.38
92 Sean O'Sullivan-26.62
93 Sunny Akani-26.87
94 Basem Eltahhan-26.96
95 Mark Joyce-26.98
96 Noppon Saengkham-27.05
97 John Astley-27.07
98 Alan McManus-27.23
99 Ross Muir-27.34
100 Zhang Anda-27.56
101 Chen Zifan-27.66
102 Nigel Bond-27.88
103 Fergal O'Brien-27.91
104 Ashley Carty-27.96
105 Joe O'Connor-28.01
106 Li Yuan-28.08
107 Lu Ning-28.27
108 Rory McLeod-28.43
109 Andy Lee-28.49
110 Ashley Hugill-28.69
111 Anthony Hamilton-28.78
112 Sam Craigie-28.99
113 Xu Si-29.06
114 Peter Ebdon-29.08
115 Adam Stefanow-29.10
116 Jak Jones-29.27
117 Mei Xiwen-29.46
118 Paul Davison-29.71
119 Chen Feilong-29.81
120 Chris Totten-30.00
121 Martin O'Donnell-30.03
122 Lukas Kleckers-31.16
123 Lee Walker-31.45
124 Rod Lawler-33.43
125 Yu DeLu-n/a
126 Mohamed Ibrahim-n/a
127 Ronnie O'Sullivan n/a
128 Cao Yupeng-n/a
Not at all surprised by the top 3, other than Ronnie they would be the quickest player on tour Thepchaiya could finish ahead of Ronnie come the end lf the season a very quick player.
Some players are naturally slow, if they headed into 35 to 40 seconds I would agree but 30 seconds IMO is fine especially if there is alot of safety play in these frames.
I should point out the AST as from this season is being looked at by Barry Hearn and I am not sure how often I think its quarterly but anyone over 30 seconds will get a letter regarding playing to slow.
Barry has done alot for the game but IMO this could be bad, as someone who loves snooker for me its not just about big breaks and watching a frame be over in 10 minutes, I love watching safety frames that last 30/45 minutes.
As I said before some players natural game is a bit slower, not everyone can see the shot as quickly as others and forcing them to speed up could cost them there match and earnings.
Would Peter Ebdon have won the World Championship if he was forced to speed up.
Yes, some people naturally will play slow. But its negative playing too slow, 30 seconds is ok but anymore is too much other than one offs or where they have a tricky decision.
Not everyone can play as quick as O'Sullivan but some players deliberately play slowly to put the opponent off.
What annoys is me when it's obvious what shot to play and they look at every other possibility but end up playing the obvious shot.
Do you still play pool? We have Central London Sunday , first season county for Kent Blackball so our team is a mixed bag. I played a couple of World rules comps Friday/ Saturday in Chatham only £5/£10, had a couple of pros/england level, dont really like world rules but will play odd one.