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A Fracking Mess!

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  • TEL
    TEL Posts: 10,100
    So where exactly does anyone think that the highly contaminated water goes after its used for Fracking?
  • charltonkeston
    charltonkeston Posts: 7,367
    TEL said:

    So where exactly does anyone think that the highly contaminated water goes after its used for Fracking?

    I suppose the plan is to use northerners as filters.
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,743
    Stu_of_Kunming said:

    I watched a documentary a while ago about fracking, it showed Americans being able to literally light the water coming out of their taps as a result of fracking. I can't remember the name but I'll try and search it out.

    This is something that should NOT be happening.

    SuedeAdidas said:

    I assume you’ve all seen Gasland?

  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,118
    So yeah, watch Gasland!
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    blackpool72 said:

    I'm all in favour of fracking within a 30 mile radius of where I live.

    As long as it's done under Croydon and Thornton Heath.

    I LOL's that and I live 6 miles from the town centre.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,355
    edited October 2018
    I could fart and register higher on the Richter Scale. The polution aspect is another thing of course, although i let fly this morning and fucking hell...
  • EveshamAddick
    EveshamAddick Posts: 7,015
    Another earthquake now!!
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,638
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,355
    edited October 2018
    coal mining went on for hundreds of years .. I don't think there have been many, reported earthquakes or cave-ins as a result .. there have of course been landslides (Aberfan disaster for example) and serious diseases as a consequence of historical lack of health and safety in the coal mining industry ..
    I can understand the apprehension on the part of people who live in the areas where fracking is happening. However, as stated above, the potential benefits to the UK energy sector could be massive
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,625
    Lincsaddick said:

    coal mining went on for hundreds of years .. I don't think there have been many, reported earthquakes or cave-ins as a result .. there have of course been landslides (Aberfan disaster for example) and serious diseases as a consequence of historical lack of health and safety in the coal mining industry ..
    I can understand the apprehension on the part of people who live in the areas where fracking is happening. However, as stated above, the potential benefits to the UK energy sector could be massive

    Comparing coal mining with fracking won’t work I’m afraid. It’s not just about getting stuff out of the ground. It’s how you achieve it.

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  • N01R4M
    N01R4M Posts: 2,577
    Lincsaddick said:

    coal mining went on for hundreds of years .. I don't think there have been many, reported earthquakes or cave-ins as a result .. there have of course been landslides (Aberfan disaster for example) and serious diseases as a consequence of historical lack of health and safety in the coal mining industry ..
    I can understand the apprehension on the part of people who live in the areas where fracking is happening. However, as stated above, the potential benefits to the UK energy sector could be massive

    Severe settlement cracks in buildings ARE a feature in mining areas, from the coalfields of Durham to the tin mines of Cornwall. It affects the house insurance you can get in many places.

    But there is a difference between the very local effects of the collapse of old tunnels and shafts, and pumping a lubricant under high pressure into rocks which contain ancient faults that may reactivate when lubricated and cause damage over a wide area.

    We can surely learn from the mistakes made by our forebears who left us with dangerous spoil heaps and waterways polluted by the run-off emerging from mine adits. They could perhaps plead ignorance, but we can't.

    We have evidence of the harm that can result from fracking, and have no right to bequeath the unpredictable downsides of fracking to future generations for our short-term convenience.
  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,881
    edited October 2018
    Fracking has many environmental consequences, not just earthquakes but air pollution, creation of greenhouse gases, & the pollution of the water table. The exact ingredients of the crap liquid fracking companies pump into the ground is not known. Where is it going ? Into the water table. It is the state / tax payers that pick up the tab for the impacts of pollution - on people via the NHS & any future clean up of water. These future costs are conveniently ignored by the fracking companies & the gov pushing this crap technology.

    Renewables are becoming more efficient very quickly & it would make much more sense to be a world leader & invest & develop this technology.
  • Chaz Hill
    Chaz Hill Posts: 5,217
    1.1 tremor now. All going well then!
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,630
    Chaz Hill said:

    1.1 tremor now. All going well then!

    Its got the hallmarks of a disaster movie. When Michael Caine turns up watch out !
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    Time to stop it! But we won't!
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,638
    edited October 2018
    How many tremor since it started? Each one slightly bigger than the last.
    It's a bit like playing pontoon, they should stick, but they keep on twisting until they burst.
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    This is like The Towering Inferno. Is Richard Chamberlain involved? Needs to be stopped now as Steve McQueen and Paul Newman are dead.
  • MountsfieldPark
    MountsfieldPark Posts: 2,074
    This is with just one well operational for a few days...
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Surely they’ve not hired Keohane to help on the project management side?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,323
    Quite bad I've only just realised the title says Mess! and not Messi
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  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    Would love to know how much money the fracking industry is putting into lobbying.
  • N01R4M
    N01R4M Posts: 2,577
    Chunes said:

    Would love to know how much money the fracking industry is putting into lobbying.

    However much it is, I bet it's only a tiny "fracKtion" of the wonga they expect to walk away with if allowed to pursue their plans.

    And don't think they only have eyes on the far north of these isles... see map https://frack-off.org.uk/locations/ or scroll down this article for a more detailed map of the prospective south east sites https://www.greenpeace.org.uk/acid-drilling-national-parks/
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,210
    None in London so it’s all okay :blush:
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,638
    Solidgone said:

    None in London so it’s all okay :blush:

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/fracking-could-begin-in-london-after-multimillion-natural-gas-find-a3584726.html
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,196
    edited October 2018
    Lincsaddick said:

    coal mining went on for hundreds of years .. I don't think there have been many, reported earthquakes or cave-ins as a result .. there have of course been landslides (Aberfan disaster for example) and serious diseases as a consequence of historical lack of health and safety in the coal mining industry ..
    I can understand the apprehension on the part of people who live in the areas where fracking is happening. However, as stated above, the potential benefits to the UK energy sector could be massive

    And that's why this world will be much, much better off when we're gone.
  • johnny73
    johnny73 Posts: 4,567
    The fracking site is about a 15 minute drive from me. Most of the local people seem to be apathetic about the whole thing. They are more infuriated by the delay in traffic caused by protesters as the site is on the only main route out of the Fylde. Lancashire County Council rejected the fracking proposals but were overruled by central government. All level of Councils seem to be currently keeping a low profile on the issue. This is a strong Conservative area.
  • MountsfieldPark
    MountsfieldPark Posts: 2,074
    edited October 2018
    "Why does fracking have such a stigma when 90% of people don't know what it is?" (quote by fracker in the ES article)

    Well, well, so the frackers are calling green liberal-lefties ignorant? No irony intended in that quote, obviously. Unbiased surveys of people opposed to and in favour of fracking show that the opponents are very well informed and have read up on the subject, while the people who say "why not just get on with it?" are the ones who don't have a Scooby what it entails.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,625
    edited October 2018
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    MountsfieldPark said:

    "Why does fracking have such a stigma when 90% of people don't know what it is?" (quote by fracker in the ES article)

    Well, well, so the frackers are calling green liberal-lefties ignorant? No irony intended in that quote, obviously. Unbiased surveys of people opposed to and in favour of fracking Brexit show that the opponents are very well informed and have read up on the subject, while the people who say "why not just get on with it?" are the ones who don't have a Scooby what it entails.

    Fixed that for you ;0)

  • MountsfieldPark
    MountsfieldPark Posts: 2,074
    edited October 2018
    ShootersHillGuru said:

    I

    MountsfieldPark said:

    "Why does fracking have such a stigma when 90% of people don't know what it is?" (quote by fracker in the ES article)

    Well, well, so the frackers are calling green liberal-lefties ignorant? No irony intended in that quote, obviously. Unbiased surveys of people opposed to and in favour of fracking Brexit show that the opponents are very well informed and have read up on the subject, while the people who say "why not just get on with it?" are the ones who don't have a Scooby what it entails.

    Fixed that for you ;0)

    The merest smidgen of a such a thought had never so much as fleetingly crossed what passes for a mind in my case. I obviously just stigmatise without cause.
  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325
    Footage of the OB dealing with a 79yo woman who made cups of tea on the anti-fracking frontline at a site about nine miles from my house. Exploration of that site has stopped for the foreseeable.

    https://youtu.be/HpCE8kZh63o

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