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The influence of the EU on Britain.
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Not really.Fiiish said:
Voted Tory. Not a Tory. Big difference.Henry Irving said:Wasn't there another poster on here call Fiish who was a Tory at the election before last?
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Our Turbot, Monkfish, Megrim and Brill are mailnly sold abroad. We import most of our cod - which is the most popular British fish,0
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Bizarre comment.Greenie said:
Not really.Fiiish said:
Voted Tory. Not a Tory. Big difference.Henry Irving said:Wasn't there another poster on here call Fiish who was a Tory at the election before last?
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If you say so, but its not is it. If you voted Tory it makes you a Tory, and by voting Tory, it makes you partly responsible for the mess this country is in, as it does every other person who voted for them.Fiiish said:
Bizarre comment.Greenie said:
Not really.Fiiish said:
Voted Tory. Not a Tory. Big difference.Henry Irving said:Wasn't there another poster on here call Fiish who was a Tory at the election before last?
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Not worth it. Greenie will start claiming you literally advocated genocide or something else crazy, then when proved wrong he’ll huff and go “we both know what you meant mate”.Fiiish said:
Bizarre comment.Greenie said:
Not really.Fiiish said:
Voted Tory. Not a Tory. Big difference.Henry Irving said:Wasn't there another poster on here call Fiish who was a Tory at the election before last?
Tl;dr don’t feed the trolls.2 -
Wanker alert!kentaddick said:
Not worth it. Greenie will start claiming you literally advocated genocide or something else crazy, then when proved wrong he’ll huff and go “we both know what you meant mate”.Fiiish said:
Bizarre comment.Greenie said:
Not really.Fiiish said:
Voted Tory. Not a Tory. Big difference.Henry Irving said:Wasn't there another poster on here call Fiish who was a Tory at the election before last?
Tl;dr don’t feed the trolls.
You really cant leave it can you, despite numerous requests to stop following me around on here.
Actually, you've done quite well really, for a couple of weeks at least, I guess your medication as run out.
Look I can send you a photo of me if you want, and you can sit at home, look at it and pull yourself of if it helps you get through the day without typing your boring snipes at me.6 -
U wot m8Greenie said:
Wanker alert!kentaddick said:
Not worth it. Greenie will start claiming you literally advocated genocide or something else crazy, then when proved wrong he’ll huff and go “we both know what you meant mate”.Fiiish said:
Bizarre comment.Greenie said:
Not really.Fiiish said:
Voted Tory. Not a Tory. Big difference.Henry Irving said:Wasn't there another poster on here call Fiish who was a Tory at the election before last?
Tl;dr don’t feed the trolls.
You really cant leave it can you, despite numerous requests to stop following me around on here.
Actually, you've done quite well really, for a couple of weeks at least, I guess your medication as run out.
Look I can send you a photo of me if you want, and you can sit at home, look at it and pull yourself of if it helps you get through the day without typing your boring snipes at me.0 -
I voted Brexit, but I'm a Remainer.5
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Can I have a copy? (It’s for a friend)Greenie said:
Wanker alert!kentaddick said:
Not worth it. Greenie will start claiming you literally advocated genocide or something else crazy, then when proved wrong he’ll huff and go “we both know what you meant mate”.Fiiish said:
Bizarre comment.Greenie said:
Not really.Fiiish said:
Voted Tory. Not a Tory. Big difference.Henry Irving said:Wasn't there another poster on here call Fiish who was a Tory at the election before last?
Tl;dr don’t feed the trolls.
You really cant leave it can you, despite numerous requests to stop following me around on here.
Actually, you've done quite well really, for a couple of weeks at least, I guess your medication as run out.
Look I can send you a photo of me if you want, and you can sit at home, look at it and pull yourself of if it helps you get through the day without typing your boring snipes at me.10 -
DaveMehmet said:
Can I have a copy? (It’s for a friend)Greenie said:
Wanker alert!kentaddick said:
Not worth it. Greenie will start claiming you literally advocated genocide or something else crazy, then when proved wrong he’ll huff and go “we both know what you meant mate”.Fiiish said:
Bizarre comment.Greenie said:
Not really.Fiiish said:
Voted Tory. Not a Tory. Big difference.Henry Irving said:Wasn't there another poster on here call Fiish who was a Tory at the election before last?
Tl;dr don’t feed the trolls.
You really cant leave it can you, despite numerous requests to stop following me around on here.
Actually, you've done quite well really, for a couple of weeks at least, I guess your medication as run out.
Look I can send you a photo of me if you want, and you can sit at home, look at it and pull yourself of if it helps you get through the day without typing your boring snipes at me.
He still hasn’t sent me it. Will pm it to you once I get it don’t worry.0 -
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@Jensenwasclass, here's a link to a paper that explains both the types of fish caught in UK waters (and details what is imported and exported) and also references the, relatively low fish consumption in the UK, particularly if visits to the chippy are excluded: http://seafish.org/research-economics/uk-seafood-industry-overview.
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I voted Labour at the last election. So am I Labour or Tory? Maybe I'm just a voter. Because unless you're a paid up member of a political party you're not actually a Tory, or Lib Dem, or Labour etc.1
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May is under relentless pressure in Parliament over the backstop arrangement in her latest document.
The Irish issue remains central to this whole brexit thing.0 -
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From the above framework:seth plum said:May is under relentless pressure in Parliament over the backstop arrangement in her latest document.
The Irish issue remains central to this whole brexit thing.
139. Both Parties affirm that the achievements, benefits and commitments of the peace process in Northern Ireland will remain of paramount importance to peace, stability and reconciliation. They agree that the Good Friday or Belfast Agreement reached on 10 April 1998 by the United Kingdom Government, the Irish Government and the other participants in the multi-party negotiations (the “1998 Agreement”) must be protected in all its parts, and that this extends to the practical application of the 1998 Agreement on the island of Ireland and to the totality of the relationships set out in the 1998 Agreement.0 -
That was before they elected an anti-Semite and friend of terrorists as leader.Leuth said:That's odd, you've chosen the same username as a chap who liked Labour back then
And while I've voted labour in the past I've never been a big fan.
But I've never lived "near" a council estate either or faced the ultimate hardship of being a lefty at one of the country's top public schools so I'll never really understand the workers struggle.
I thought love was only true in fairy tales but now I'm a believerCovered End said:I voted Brexit, but I'm a Remainer.
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Well quite.stonemuse said:
From the above framework:seth plum said:May is under relentless pressure in Parliament over the backstop arrangement in her latest document.
The Irish issue remains central to this whole brexit thing.
139. Both Parties affirm that the achievements, benefits and commitments of the peace process in Northern Ireland will remain of paramount importance to peace, stability and reconciliation. They agree that the Good Friday or Belfast Agreement reached on 10 April 1998 by the United Kingdom Government, the Irish Government and the other participants in the multi-party negotiations (the “1998 Agreement”) must be protected in all its parts, and that this extends to the practical application of the 1998 Agreement on the island of Ireland and to the totality of the relationships set out in the 1998 Agreement.
The 1998 agreement is at odds with the existence of a border, which is what brexit demands.
The backstop dance, and indeed the maxfax aspiration are details that cloud the fundamental reality.
The Belfast Agreement goes, or Brexit goes. The two can't coexist. To suggest they can is to promise that cats and dogs can mate and produce offspring.0 -
I wouldn’t worry ,, Brexit won’t happen anyway so it’s a moot point.seth plum said:
Well quite.stonemuse said:
From the above framework:seth plum said:May is under relentless pressure in Parliament over the backstop arrangement in her latest document.
The Irish issue remains central to this whole brexit thing.
139. Both Parties affirm that the achievements, benefits and commitments of the peace process in Northern Ireland will remain of paramount importance to peace, stability and reconciliation. They agree that the Good Friday or Belfast Agreement reached on 10 April 1998 by the United Kingdom Government, the Irish Government and the other participants in the multi-party negotiations (the “1998 Agreement”) must be protected in all its parts, and that this extends to the practical application of the 1998 Agreement on the island of Ireland and to the totality of the relationships set out in the 1998 Agreement.
The 1998 agreement is at odds with the existence of a border, which is what brexit demands.
The backstop dance, and indeed the maxfax aspiration are details that cloud the fundamental reality.
The Belfast Agreement goes, or Brexit goes. The two can't coexist. To suggest they can is to promise that cats and dogs can mate and produce offspring.0 -
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“The challenge of satisfying the needs of 27 sovereign nations, each with their own agenda, is an extremely simple one if only we take an aggressive stance.”Callumcafc said:
Dear oh dear ... what is this oaf doing in Parliament ... he doesnt have a clue what ‘negotiation’ is all about .. not that May is any better.4 -
Having looked at this, I have to admit that Corbyn got it right today. This should have been written two years ago.stonemuse said:
It’s full of good aspirations on both sides ... but it’s a vision not a fact.
Should have been done BEFORE putting Article 50 into force.1 -
In May's speech today she made a thing about looking towards a technological solution on the land border in Ireland eventually. She praised Ian Duncan Smith and another MP for their work and suggestions on this matter.
What I take from that is at some recent point she must've said to critics 'well what would you do then? Where are your blimmin' suggestions?'
She was referencing their half baked ideas in order to appease and soften and try to get some arch brexiters on board. Trying to please as many as she can as she calculates the numbers.
In the questions that followed her statement, both Duncan Smith and his fellow maxfax championing MP gave Theresa May a broadside.
So she tried to throw them a bone of recognition but it didn't really work.
Over the last couple of weeks May has put in a monumental shift trying to resolve all this nightmare, but it looks like coming to nothing. May can probably say she tried the best she could, and it is probably true that no bugger could do any better, but the best the UK can come up with is disliked by the UK as it were.
No other person could probably do any better, but as said above, comparing May's deal to either no deal or remain it seems obvious that remain is the best option of the three.2 -
There was absolutely nothing stopping HMG drafting it's view of what the future relationship would look like in advance, except, at that stage, they still acted as if they believed that the EU27 would alter its founding principles to suit a non-member.stonemuse said:
Having looked at this, I have to admit that Corbyn got it right today. This should have been written two years ago.stonemuse said:
It’s full of good aspirations on both sides ... but it’s a vision not a fact.
Should have been done BEFORE putting Article 50 into force.
To be honest though, I do wonder why it's taken so long to get to where we are now. Well, I would, if David Davis had not been in post...
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Yet the anti-Semitic friend of terrorists called for Article 50 to be triggered straight awaystonemuse said:
Having looked at this, I have to admit that Corbyn got it right today. This should have been written two years ago.stonemuse said:
It’s full of good aspirations on both sides ... but it’s a vision not a fact.
Should have been done BEFORE putting Article 50 into force.2 -
I think he ran over his cat!Henry Irving said:
Yet the anti-Semitic friend of terrorists called for Article 50 to be triggered straight awaystonemuse said:
Having looked at this, I have to admit that Corbyn got it right today. This should have been written two years ago.stonemuse said:
It’s full of good aspirations on both sides ... but it’s a vision not a fact.
Should have been done BEFORE putting Article 50 into force.0 -
But muh Corbyn is a remainerHenry Irving said:
Yet the anti-Semitic friend of terrorists called for Article 50 to be triggered straight awaystonemuse said:
Having looked at this, I have to admit that Corbyn got it right today. This should have been written two years ago.stonemuse said:
It’s full of good aspirations on both sides ... but it’s a vision not a fact.
Should have been done BEFORE putting Article 50 into force.0 -
I thought the Corbyn response today was good.1
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But he hasn't run over your cat Seth!seth plum said:I thought the Corbyn response today was good.
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