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The influence of the EU on Britain.

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  • shirty5 said:

    117 is huge. Awful for May

    Same as the number of players under Roland, good to see two well run organisations coming together.
  • I think he is a decent bloke and like his policies. I accept others don't. I didn't not so long ago. I just changed my mind. I don't think you can accuse me of being part of a cult for doing that - mind you I do chant 'Oh Jeremy Corbyn' repeatedly for 20 minutes each evening whilst burning scented candles. But I think I would need to do that for at least an hour before it becomes cult like behaviour.
    No one who denies a genocide could ever be rated as “a decent bloke”
  • If it helps, I read a book once that claimed if you run into a wall at Kings Cross station you get a free education at a dead posh private school.

    You didn’t think of giving it a go then?

  • Why was the threshold she needed to survive 158 votes when there were a total of 317 cast?

    She could have lost 158-159 and technically 'won'?
  • @Missed It

    As for people being rude to each other about Brexit, I agree, it's tiresome in the extreme. Anybody who foolishly pops in here to post anything counter to the Remainer group-think has their posts forensically dissected and, if they're lucky, get away without any personal insults. Brexit is already harming the economy. People waste 40 minutes at a time googling stuff to rebut any anti-EU statement they come across when they should be getting on with their job!


    I am sure that bit was irony, right?
  • Why was the threshold she needed to survive 158 votes when there were a total of 317 cast?

    She could have lost 158-159 and technically 'won'?

    Maybe they assumed she would vote for herself and ignored her in the numbers?
  • Anybody think she has any chance of getting her plan through?
  • An interesting observation! May wins the right to continue uninterrupted by the ERG for another 12 months.

    However, this ups the stakes as now the only way to change the leadership of the country is a no confidence in the government / defection by the Tory remainers who hold the balance of power.

    The angles are extremely complex so perhaps let the journos, analysts and markets give their feedback.

    It's still unclear how the WA will become law or what alternative might prevail. Meanwhile my pint of Guiness in a Dublin bar has just been charged at £5.33 (on €5.70) on my card - ouch!
    And that in a nutshell is what, for the majority, is how all of this affects us...

    The future and pounds in our pockets, whoever has the helm will not be able to give clarity and guarantees on.

    It’s Clear as mud...

    Cannot lay all this blame at Mays doorstep,
    David Davies negotiated, spat his dummy and left. Johnson’s - same.

    Most are for their own political advancement and career (especially Boris) not the Country.

  • No one who denies a genocide could ever be rated as “a decent bloke”
    Are you saying that Corbyn denied the Holocaust even took place, that he denied that the Nazi's murdered millions of people?
  • Why was the threshold she needed to survive 158 votes when there were a total of 317 cast?

    She could have lost 158-159 and technically 'won'?

    It changed to 159 earlier when the whip was given back to Andrew Griffiths today. Good timing eh?
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  • No one who denies a genocide could ever be rated as “a decent bloke”
    When did he do that exactly? That's a pretty big claim.
  • bobmunro said:

    It changed to 159 earlier when the whip was given back to Andrew Griffiths today. Good timing eh?
    Ah ok cheers.

  • So we have 117 MPs who have no confidence in the leader of the government but would vote that they have confidence in the government to save their jobs. What does that say about them?
  • No one who denies a genocide could ever be rated as “a decent bloke”
    Corbyn didn't deny the genocide, he said the evidence had been fabricated and it had. The initial false report of 100000 killed was later reduced to 3000. As a pacifist he suggested not going to war, you might not agree with that stance but don't try to distort it.
  • Corbyn didn't deny the genocide, he said the evidence had been fabricated and it had. The initial false report of 100000 killed was later reduced to 3000. As a pacifist he suggested not going to war, you might not agree with that stance but don't try to distort it.
    This would seem to be what Kentaddick believes justifies his inflammatory remark:

    https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/26919
  • micks1950 said:

    This would seem to be what Kentaddick believes justifies his inflammatory remark:

    https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/26919
    He we go again, Corbyn, Corbyn, Corbyn.
  • Anybody think she has any chance of getting her plan through?

    I think she might.
    Despite what they say, the Eurocrats could offer a bit of leverage on the NI situation.
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  • He we go again, Corbyn, Corbyn, Corbyn.
    I thought people might want to know what Kentaddick's extraordinary remark was about - so they can make their own minds up?

    I would have thought it was more like information, information, information.....
  • Can someone put me right on the Backstop as I really haven't been paying attention?

    From the BBC:
    The backstop is a position of last resort, to maintain an open border on the island of Ireland in the event that the UK leaves the EU without securing an all-encompassing deal.

    But if the UK accept the Backstop then that would secure an all encompassing deal wouldn't it?
    So no need for a last resort Backstop?
  • Can someone put me right on the Backstop as I really haven't been paying attention?

    From the BBC:
    The backstop is a position of last resort, to maintain an open border on the island of Ireland in the event that the UK leaves the EU without securing an all-encompassing deal.

    But if the UK accept the Backstop then that would secure an all encompassing deal wouldn't it?
    So no need for a last resort Backstop?

    While the backstop is only insurance it will never fly with the very people who ensure the government's majority because it legally guarantees the possibility of separating the sovereignty of Northern Ireland.
  • While the backstop is only insurance it will never fly with the very people who ensure the government's majority because it legally guarantees the possibility of separating the sovereignty of Northern Ireland.
    Not sure I understand this, but ithe backstop also contradicts the Good Friday Agreement which stopped the greatest domestic bloodshed in my lifetime.
  • Watch when Labour call for a vote of no confidence they will have the backing of some hard Brexiteers.
  • se9addick said:

    All of Muttley’s predictions have come true - let’s see if that trend continues!
    @MuttleyCAFC did labour put in that no confidence vote that you predicted?
  • Laddick01 said:

    Rees-Mogg, good speaker. Massive twat.

    I am 50% behind you on this.
  • Did I hear Liam Fox correctly earlier ?? Discussing TM's deal & the (very hopefull) changes /clarifications that she is seeking.....I thought he said if the deal came back with no changes then Cabinet MIGHT agree to not put it to the HOC for a vote.Can they do that ?? And if so, what happens next .....exit with no deal ??
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