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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Rothko said:

    So does that mean if they own Atlassian, the clubs going to be run on sprints, have daily stand-ups and post-it notes everywhere?

    But think of the storys. It’s going to be an epic.
    I sense a Lord of the Rings style trilogy when Spielberg gets the rights...
  • stockportugaladdick
    stockportugaladdick Posts: 1,135
    edited January 2019

    Good match to be in the posh seats tomorrow at then

    I was in the posh bit on new years day (centre circle) and began to think I'd been mistaken for a stinking rich potential buyer and was the cause of all this latest takeover frenzy. It's about as close as I'll ever get to being stinking rich
  • I was down the Valley earlier and I saw the first signing of the new regime down there. Shouldn't really be posting this but...

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    Hate to burst your fake bubble, but next time can you make it factually correct.

    We already have a number 11 in Fosu, so its impossible Neymar would get the 11 shirt, unless it was sanctioned by the Football League to change Fosus number
    Oh dear lord
  • I was down the Valley earlier and I saw the first signing of the new regime down there. Shouldn't really be posting this but...

    image

    Hate to burst your fake bubble, but next time can you make it factually correct.

    We already have a number 11 in Fosu, so its impossible Neymar would get the 11 shirt, unless it was sanctioned by the Football League to change Fosus number
    Sorry Paulie :pensive:
  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,921

    And if anyone iflrl

    bobmunro said:

    bobmunro said:

    shirty5 said:

    Ex Directors agreed a deal then? @Davidsmith

    They have not been contacted I am told.
    Which would indicate that The Valley is part of the deal and the charges rollover.
    Would also indicate buyer is an idiot and is happy to pay £20-£30mn for the Club with no control of it's most valuable assets, as charges are over all assets of the Club.
    Which also means buyer cannot raise any finance against said assets without permission or enter into any Leases on assets.
    Worry if new buyer keeps charges outstanding as this is their best bargaining tool with Roland to get price down.
    Maybe they don't need to raise finance against the assets, and are happy to let the non-interest bearing loans sit there knowing that should they get to the promised land the first £7m of the £100m+ Prem dividend is used to clear the charges.

    We also don't have details of exactly how much they might have paid, and this could have been negotiated down to reflect the outstanding loans.
    Which is what I said months & months ago. The ex-director loans are a drop in the ocean if/when we get to the Pram
    They are only paid back then. No interest due either. Could be in 3 years.....could be in 30 years.

    If any owner need a to start taking loans secured on the club/ground then they are not the owner you want.
    When the north end wrap around was built for £9M with a £6M bank loan, wasn't that secured against The Valley?
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,738
    Ferryman said:

    And if anyone iflrl

    bobmunro said:

    bobmunro said:

    shirty5 said:

    Ex Directors agreed a deal then? @Davidsmith

    They have not been contacted I am told.
    Which would indicate that The Valley is part of the deal and the charges rollover.
    Would also indicate buyer is an idiot and is happy to pay £20-£30mn for the Club with no control of it's most valuable assets, as charges are over all assets of the Club.
    Which also means buyer cannot raise any finance against said assets without permission or enter into any Leases on assets.
    Worry if new buyer keeps charges outstanding as this is their best bargaining tool with Roland to get price down.
    Maybe they don't need to raise finance against the assets, and are happy to let the non-interest bearing loans sit there knowing that should they get to the promised land the first £7m of the £100m+ Prem dividend is used to clear the charges.

    We also don't have details of exactly how much they might have paid, and this could have been negotiated down to reflect the outstanding loans.
    Which is what I said months & months ago. The ex-director loans are a drop in the ocean if/when we get to the Pram
    They are only paid back then. No interest due either. Could be in 3 years.....could be in 30 years.

    If any owner need a to start taking loans secured on the club/ground then they are not the owner you want.
    When the north end wrap around was built for £9M with a £6M bank loan, wasn't that secured against The Valley?
    The north stand loan has been paid off.
  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,921

    Ferryman said:

    And if anyone iflrl

    bobmunro said:

    bobmunro said:

    shirty5 said:

    Ex Directors agreed a deal then? @Davidsmith

    They have not been contacted I am told.
    Which would indicate that The Valley is part of the deal and the charges rollover.
    Would also indicate buyer is an idiot and is happy to pay £20-£30mn for the Club with no control of it's most valuable assets, as charges are over all assets of the Club.
    Which also means buyer cannot raise any finance against said assets without permission or enter into any Leases on assets.
    Worry if new buyer keeps charges outstanding as this is their best bargaining tool with Roland to get price down.
    Maybe they don't need to raise finance against the assets, and are happy to let the non-interest bearing loans sit there knowing that should they get to the promised land the first £7m of the £100m+ Prem dividend is used to clear the charges.

    We also don't have details of exactly how much they might have paid, and this could have been negotiated down to reflect the outstanding loans.
    Which is what I said months & months ago. The ex-director loans are a drop in the ocean if/when we get to the Pram
    They are only paid back then. No interest due either. Could be in 3 years.....could be in 30 years.

    If any owner need a to start taking loans secured on the club/ground then they are not the owner you want.
    When the north end wrap around was built for £9M with a £6M bank loan, wasn't that secured against The Valley?
    The north stand loan has been paid off.
    I know but it was a regime borrowing against the assets.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    1-4-0-7 it's coming soon.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344

    I was down the Valley earlier and I saw the first signing of the new regime down there. Shouldn't really be posting this but...

    image

    Hate to burst your fake bubble, but next time can you make it factually correct.

    We already have a number 11 in Fosu, so its impossible Neymar would get the 11 shirt, unless it was sanctioned by the Football League to change Fosus number
    Oh dear lord
    Whats this mean @CharltonByBlood

    It was clearly a joke based on @Rufus_Ambition original joke.

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  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600

    I was down the Valley earlier and I saw the first signing of the new regime down there. Shouldn't really be posting this but...

    image

    Hate to burst your fake bubble, but next time can you make it factually correct.

    We already have a number 11 in Fosu, so its impossible Neymar would get the 11 shirt, unless it was sanctioned by the Football League to change Fosus number
    So he hasn’t signed then?
  • superclive
    superclive Posts: 1,809

    Good match to be in the posh seats tomorrow at then

    I was in the posh bit on new years day (centre circle) and began to think I'd been mistaken for a stinking rich potential buyer and was the cause of all this latest takeover frenzy. It's about as close as I'll ever get to being stinking rich
    we're you in the Jonny Williams picture?
  • superclive
    superclive Posts: 1,809
    so who might the backer be. all links mid 30s. the only likely one seems that joel McDonald. who else could it be
  • Good match to be in the posh seats tomorrow at then

    I was in the posh bit on new years day (centre circle) and began to think I'd been mistaken for a stinking rich potential buyer and was the cause of all this latest takeover frenzy. It's about as close as I'll ever get to being stinking rich
    we're you in the Jonny Williams picture?
    No, thankfully I was sat just a bit further back. Never been one for the limelight!
  • Nug
    Nug Posts: 4,623
    edited January 2019
    Too soon?

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  • N01R4M
    N01R4M Posts: 2,577
    Don't tempt fate!
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,071
    Thanks for reminding me of Karel Fraeyes reign. Baffling how he got the job
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,323
    edited January 2019
    This is the sole reason why I didnt boycott - After five years of having something else to do with my Saturday afternoon I probably wouldnt so didnt want to run the risk.
  • This is the sole reason why I didnt boycott - After five years of having something else to do I probably wouldnt so didnt want to run the risk
    Never understand it and never will, you support the club through thick and thin regardless. How a billionaire will lose sleep over someone’s 250 quid escapes me.Lets be honest he dug his heels in for five years
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,314
    edited January 2019

    so who might the backer be. all links mid 30s. the only likely one seems that joel McDonald. who else could it be

    My monies on him, not the richest mind you
  • This is the sole reason why I didnt boycott - After five years of having something else to do I probably wouldnt so didnt want to run the risk
    Never understand it and never will, you support the club through thick and thin regardless. How a billionaire will lose sleep over someone’s 250 quid escapes me.Lets be honest he dug his heels in for five years
    True but they've equally stood by something they believe in and you could argue that by boycotting they've helped speed up the sale - Roland is so rich that £250 dont matter if he receives it or not but he's gotten rich by making every penny he can so will always appreciate every penny he gets!!
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    If you see an owner who you believe is destroying the club you love, it is hard to put money in his pocket. Yes, he may not lose any sleep over your money, but it does have a collective power in reminding him what a failure he is amongst other things. And this may or may not help him decide it isn't worth it in the end.
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,037

    This is the sole reason why I didnt boycott - After five years of having something else to do I probably wouldnt so didnt want to run the risk
    Never understand it and never will, you support the club through thick and thin regardless. How a billionaire will lose sleep over someone’s 250 quid escapes me.Lets be honest he dug his heels in for five years
    Protests and boycotts can be personal, too. It might be the principle of not giving money to a figure you don't support, rather than necessarily directly looking to hurt RD. Perhaps swing voting is a serviceable analogy - vote for what you stand for et al.
  • This is the sole reason why I didnt boycott - After five years of having something else to do I probably wouldnt so didnt want to run the risk
    Never understand it and never will, you support the club through thick and thin regardless. How a billionaire will lose sleep over someone’s 250 quid escapes me.Lets be honest he dug his heels in for five years
    True but they've equally stood by something they believe in and you could argue that by boycotting they've helped speed up the sale - Roland is so rich that £250 dont matter if he receives it or not but he's gotten rich by making every penny he can so will always appreciate every penny he gets!!
    But can you get moments back in life by being stubborn. ? He must have done something right life to get the wealth he has,let’s be honest people were doing cartwheels when he bought us and found out his wealth.
  • AddickFC81
    AddickFC81 Posts: 4,053
    Nug said:

    Too soon?

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    Would Richard Murray sell his stake to the Aussies as well then?
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,566

    Nug said:

    Too soon?

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    Would Richard Murray sell his stake to the Aussies as well then?
    He hasn’t got a stake.

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