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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Yes and making juvenile comments about typo’s and “What plant are you on” when someone has an opinion different to him with over 20 likes thus far.superclive98 said:
Of course he would and be making excuses for the Oystons.Airman Brown said:
Would you be going to Blackpool home matches if you were a Blackpool fan?WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
That I understand, but there has been clubs ie Newcastle hated Shepherd, who did they get Ashley, bottom line is you support the team threw thick and thin, owners are players and managers they come and go, so are shit some are great others defy believe, but more importantly you stick by the team and club.Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
There Is no defence for what he has done. As a boycotter I have no regrets about that decision, nor would I criticise anyone that continues to go, but trying to rationalise the behaviour of that cu@t ... !!??WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
He never about us before he bought us, got a weekly or monthly report as all owners would from the CEO or MD. Looks at the bottom line every six months not the attendances. At least he has openly put his hands up in open forum and admitted mistakes were made, and I am sure even those who hate him the most he has bank rolled the club and has taken nothing out just kept it afloat as any owner of a football club would have done.MuttleyCAFC said:If you see an owner who you believe is destroying the club you love, it is hard to put money in his pocket. Yes, he may not lose any sleep over your money, but it does have a collective power in reminding him what a failure he is amongst other things. And this may or may not help him decide it isn't worth it in the end.
He has had a long affair with CAFC as have myself and my family but his blinkered views are not too relevant to the future generations, ie. my 12 year old boy, who has attended since he was 4 and very nearly gave up on CAFC due to the last 4 years. We really do need these children for the future.
It is his opinion and his viewpoints which he is entitled to...
But imo, no flex and narrow minded.
Hey ho, that’s what makes forum’s what they are.4 -
Pretty obvious the majority of Blackpool fans have decided not to go without any advice from me.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
There is a word there fan.....in which case would answer your question. Stop being militant and trying to change the world, it’s boring. Let people support who they want regardless of your opinion on their Chairman.Airman Brown said:
Would you be going to Blackpool home matches if you were a Blackpool fan?WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
That I understand, but there has been clubs ie Newcastle hated Shepherd, who did they get Ashley, bottom line is you support the team threw thick and thin, owners are players and managers they come and go, so are shit some are great others defy believe, but more importantly you stick by the team and club.Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
There Is no defence for what he has done. As a boycotter I have no regrets about that decision, nor would I criticise anyone that continues to go, but trying to rationalise the behaviour of that cu@t ... !!??WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
He never about us before he bought us, got a weekly or monthly report as all owners would from the CEO or MD. Looks at the bottom line every six months not the attendances. At least he has openly put his hands up in open forum and admitted mistakes were made, and I am sure even those who hate him the most he has bank rolled the club and has taken nothing out just kept it afloat as any owner of a football club would have done.MuttleyCAFC said:If you see an owner who you believe is destroying the club you love, it is hard to put money in his pocket. Yes, he may not lose any sleep over your money, but it does have a collective power in reminding him what a failure he is amongst other things. And this may or may not help him decide it isn't worth it in the end.
Fan doesn’t mean suck up any old nonsense that an owner hands out, as most Charlton supporters recognise, on here and in poll after poll.
You choose to believe it’s an ordinary situation because it suits you but you are in a tiny minority, as the reaction you get here shows.47 -
Spot on.MrLargo said:
It's the England international that won us League 1 with a record number of points, got is to 9th in the Championship after the previous lot ran out of cash and got is to an FA Cup quarter final. I think you'll find Roland stuck his oar into footballing affairs again for the quarter final itself, hence it went pear-shapedWhenIwasLittleBoy said:
Is that the England international that fucked up tatics at Bramell Lane that would have got us to the semi finals of the FA Cup. According to some he never put anything into the club but in your own admissions you have stated he has. He has lost millions, his own fault yes, as all other football chairmen, however if you look back at my point how many will return, I put it a very small percentage.MrLargo said:
Jesus Christ, what planet are you on? He's bank rolled the club because it would go into administration if he didn't continue to keep us afloat and then he'd lose everything he'd put into it.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
He never about us before he bought us, got a weekly or monthly report as all owners would from the CEO or MD. Looks at the bottom line every six months not the attendances. At least he has openly put his hands up in open forum and admitted mistakes were made, and I am sure even those who hate him the most he has bank rolled the club and has taken nothing out just kept it afloat as any owner of a football club would have done.MuttleyCAFC said:If you see an owner who you believe is destroying the club you love, it is hard to put money in his pocket. Yes, he may not lose any sleep over your money, but it does have a collective power in reminding him what a failure he is amongst other things. And this may or may not help him decide it isn't worth it in the end.
As for admitting mistakes, I've read that he acknowledges he shouldn't have got involved in football, still waiting for him to admit that emailing tactical advice to a former England international was a bad idea, as were virtually all of his signings, his choice of CEO, his chief scout, his managers, etc, etc, etc. Still waiting for the apology for damaging, perhaps irreparably, a 100 plus year old football club. Definitely wasn't aware that an "open forum" had taken place - I'd have been there like a shot of I'd known about it.
5 years of failure and destruction and there's still people excusing him, unbelievable.
If you want to give him credit for doing the business equivalent of keeping up the minimum repayments on a credit card then that's up to you.
Obviously everyone's entitled to their own opinion and you're therefore perfectly entitled to slate Chris Powell and send a thank you card to Roland. In my opinion, you need your head examining.5 -
Or they have no need to raise finance against the assets.Davidsmith said:
Would also indicate buyer is an idiot and is happy to pay £20-£30mn for the Club with no control of it's most valuable assets, as charges are over all assets of the Club.bobmunro said:
Which would indicate that The Valley is part of the deal and the charges rollover.Davidsmith said:
Which also means buyer cannot raise any finance against said assets without permission or enter into any Leases on assets.
Worry if new buyer keeps charges outstanding as this is their best bargaining tool with Roland to get price down.
Lol you mug. Have you even got eyes?WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
Is that the England international that fucked up tatics at Bramell Lane that would have got us to the semi finals of the FA Cup. According to some he never put anything into the club but in your own admissions you have stated he has. He has lost millions, his own fault yes, as all other football chairmen, however if you look back at my point how many will return, I put it a very small percentage.MrLargo said:
Jesus Christ, what planet are you on? He's bank rolled the club because it would go into administration if he didn't continue to keep us afloat and then he'd lose everything he'd put into it.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
He never about us before he bought us, got a weekly or monthly report as all owners would from the CEO or MD. Looks at the bottom line every six months not the attendances. At least he has openly put his hands up in open forum and admitted mistakes were made, and I am sure even those who hate him the most he has bank rolled the club and has taken nothing out just kept it afloat as any owner of a football club would have done.MuttleyCAFC said:If you see an owner who you believe is destroying the club you love, it is hard to put money in his pocket. Yes, he may not lose any sleep over your money, but it does have a collective power in reminding him what a failure he is amongst other things. And this may or may not help him decide it isn't worth it in the end.
As for admitting mistakes, I've read that he acknowledges he shouldn't have got involved in football, still waiting for him to admit that emailing tactical advice to a former England international was a bad idea, as were virtually all of his signings, his choice of CEO, his chief scout, his managers, etc, etc, etc. Still waiting for the apology for damaging, perhaps irreparably, a 100 plus year old football club. Definitely wasn't aware that an "open forum" had taken place - I'd have been there like a shot of I'd known about it.
5 years of failure and destruction and there's still people excusing him, unbelievable.
What could Powell have done better at Bramell lane? Hed had the rug completely pulled from under him, his best players sold, was being pressured from above to play the network imports, the players knew what was going on, he knew it was all over and he had been told he was getting sacked if he didn't play the likes of Thuram and Koc.
I'd say he did as well as anyone could have in the circumstances.43 -
Anyway WIwLB, we need to move on.
We all love Charlton so let's all pull in the same direction.
You want the club to grow again and it won't be so easily achieved by trying to bring up all the old issues again and again.12 -
All,about opinions, no one is defending anyone, merely stating support the club and team, bad ownership will soon become apparent. If things are out of your control no point cutting your nose off spite your face. Believe you me they are worse things in life that can fuck you off so in the meantime enjoy your passion in life and not turn it into a poison.superclive98 said:
Of course he would and be making excuses for the Oystons.Airman Brown said:
Would you be going to Blackpool home matches if you were a Blackpool fan?WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
That I understand, but there has been clubs ie Newcastle hated Shepherd, who did they get Ashley, bottom line is you support the team threw thick and thin, owners are players and managers they come and go, so are shit some are great others defy believe, but more importantly you stick by the team and club.Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
There Is no defence for what he has done. As a boycotter I have no regrets about that decision, nor would I criticise anyone that continues to go, but trying to rationalise the behaviour of that cu@t ... !!??WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
He never about us before he bought us, got a weekly or monthly report as all owners would from the CEO or MD. Looks at the bottom line every six months not the attendances. At least he has openly put his hands up in open forum and admitted mistakes were made, and I am sure even those who hate him the most he has bank rolled the club and has taken nothing out just kept it afloat as any owner of a football club would have done.MuttleyCAFC said:If you see an owner who you believe is destroying the club you love, it is hard to put money in his pocket. Yes, he may not lose any sleep over your money, but it does have a collective power in reminding him what a failure he is amongst other things. And this may or may not help him decide it isn't worth it in the end.
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Blinkered is exactly the word that I had in mind.BR3red said:
Yes and making juvenile comments about typo’s and “What plant are you on” when someone has an opinion different to him with over 20 likes thus far.superclive98 said:
Of course he would and be making excuses for the Oystons.Airman Brown said:
Would you be going to Blackpool home matches if you were a Blackpool fan?WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
That I understand, but there has been clubs ie Newcastle hated Shepherd, who did they get Ashley, bottom line is you support the team threw thick and thin, owners are players and managers they come and go, so are shit some are great others defy believe, but more importantly you stick by the team and club.Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
There Is no defence for what he has done. As a boycotter I have no regrets about that decision, nor would I criticise anyone that continues to go, but trying to rationalise the behaviour of that cu@t ... !!??WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
He never about us before he bought us, got a weekly or monthly report as all owners would from the CEO or MD. Looks at the bottom line every six months not the attendances. At least he has openly put his hands up in open forum and admitted mistakes were made, and I am sure even those who hate him the most he has bank rolled the club and has taken nothing out just kept it afloat as any owner of a football club would have done.MuttleyCAFC said:If you see an owner who you believe is destroying the club you love, it is hard to put money in his pocket. Yes, he may not lose any sleep over your money, but it does have a collective power in reminding him what a failure he is amongst other things. And this may or may not help him decide it isn't worth it in the end.
He has had a long affair with CAFC as have myself and my family but his blinkered views are not too relevant to the future generations, ie. my 12 year old boy, who has attended since he was 4 and very nearly gave up on CAFC due to the last 4 years. We really do need these children for the future.
It is his opinion and his viewpoints which he is entitled to...
But imo, no flex and narrow minded.
Hey ho, that’s what makes forum’s what they are.
I really haven't enjoyed my boycott, especially as my son had finally twigged that he should be a Charlton supporter instead of a Barcelona supporter.
Fortunately he still considers himself a Charlton fan and, despite being only 15 now, he understands why we are not attending.1 -
Or you could look at Blackpool. Different fan bases have different opinions and circumstances.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
That I understand, but there has been clubs ie Newcastle hated Shepherd, who did they get Ashley, bottom line is you support the team threw thick and thin, owners are players and managers they come and go, so are shit some are great others defy believe, but more importantly you stick by the team and club.Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
There Is no defence for what he has done. As a boycotter I have no regrets about that decision, nor would I criticise anyone that continues to go, but trying to rationalise the behaviour of that cu@t ... !!??WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
He never about us before he bought us, got a weekly or monthly report as all owners would from the CEO or MD. Looks at the bottom line every six months not the attendances. At least he has openly put his hands up in open forum and admitted mistakes were made, and I am sure even those who hate him the most he has bank rolled the club and has taken nothing out just kept it afloat as any owner of a football club would have done.MuttleyCAFC said:If you see an owner who you believe is destroying the club you love, it is hard to put money in his pocket. Yes, he may not lose any sleep over your money, but it does have a collective power in reminding him what a failure he is amongst other things. And this may or may not help him decide it isn't worth it in the end.
I get the view that you watch your team no matter what - but when there are bad owners ruining clubs (not just us) not everyone feels that way. They think it's more important to do whatever they can that might help move their owner closer to selling.
Having different opinions isn't a bad thing. If everyone just got behind the team he may have stayed on and continued doing things his way. Without pressure from the fan base it's likely it would have taken longer for him to appoint more suitable managers and stop sacking them every few months.
And yet if everyone boycotted the budget would likely have been lower and we'd have a weaker squad.
Everyone needs do what they feel is right for them. Having a different opinion on attending/boycotting/protesting doesn't make someone any more or less of a fan - for some being a fan isn't only about supporting the team on the pitch.
Despite some saying they don't want the boycotters back, if things move in the right direction I think the majority will prefer seeing bigger crowds and a better atmosphere.
Hopefully we can soon move on from RD, can start rebuilding the club and repairing the split fan base.5 -
You was the one that brought up Blackpool not me, all I did was give an honest answer. Funny thing polls, because someone doesn’t agree with what you believe don’t make them wrong or your opinion doesn’t matter. I am sure there are many fans that aren’t happy with the way there clubs are run. But can I change it ?No, can I still go and watch the team and club that I have done for over 40 years? Yes. You say I am in a tiny minority but let’s be perfectly honest every is anti RD and rightly so but do I let it take my life over and ruin my life as we don’t know what will happen tomorrow then no. So if that puts me in a tiny minority then fantastic because one thing Charlton fans have never been is sheep and have always had a mind of their own. No doubt the reason we are not as fashionable as some London clubs.Airman Brown said:
Pretty obvious the majority of Blackpool fans have decided not to go without any advice from me.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
There is a word there fan.....in which case would answer your question. Stop being militant and trying to change the world, it’s boring. Let people support who they want regardless of your opinion on their Chairman.Airman Brown said:
Would you be going to Blackpool home matches if you were a Blackpool fan?WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
That I understand, but there has been clubs ie Newcastle hated Shepherd, who did they get Ashley, bottom line is you support the team threw thick and thin, owners are players and managers they come and go, so are shit some are great others defy believe, but more importantly you stick by the team and club.Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
There Is no defence for what he has done. As a boycotter I have no regrets about that decision, nor would I criticise anyone that continues to go, but trying to rationalise the behaviour of that cu@t ... !!??WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
He never about us before he bought us, got a weekly or monthly report as all owners would from the CEO or MD. Looks at the bottom line every six months not the attendances. At least he has openly put his hands up in open forum and admitted mistakes were made, and I am sure even those who hate him the most he has bank rolled the club and has taken nothing out just kept it afloat as any owner of a football club would have done.MuttleyCAFC said:If you see an owner who you believe is destroying the club you love, it is hard to put money in his pocket. Yes, he may not lose any sleep over your money, but it does have a collective power in reminding him what a failure he is amongst other things. And this may or may not help him decide it isn't worth it in the end.
Fan doesn’t mean suck up any old nonsense that an owner hands out, as most Charlton supporters recognise, on here and in poll after poll.
You choose to believe it’s an ordinary situation because it suits you but you are in a tiny minority, as the reaction you get here shows.0 -
I ain’t bringing up old issues it’s was a question of will those that have boycotted return, I haven’t dug anyone out it appears that people don’t like another opinion of you can’t deal with it not my problem.Covered End said:Anyway WIwLB, we need to move on.
We all love Charlton so let's all pull in the same direction.
You want the club to grow again and it won't be so easily achieved by trying to bring up all the old issues again and again.3 - Sponsored links:
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Er....WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
I ain’t bringing up old issues it’s was a question of will those that have boycotted return, I haven’t dug anyone out it appears that people don’t like another opinion of you can’t deal with it not my problem.Covered End said:Anyway WIwLB, we need to move on.
We all love Charlton so let's all pull in the same direction.
You want the club to grow again and it won't be so easily achieved by trying to bring up all the old issues again and again.
Move on6 -
Brilliant, we all agree so can we now all try and move forward ?WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
Let’s be perfectly honest everyone is anti RD and rightly so.Airman Brown said:
Pretty obvious the majority of Blackpool fans have decided not to go without any advice from me.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
There is a word there fan.....in which case would answer your question. Stop being militant and trying to change the world, it’s boring. Let people support who they want regardless of your opinion on their Chairman.Airman Brown said:
Would you be going to Blackpool home matches if you were a Blackpool fan?WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
That I understand, but there has been clubs ie Newcastle hated Shepherd, who did they get Ashley, bottom line is you support the team threw thick and thin, owners are players and managers they come and go, so are shit some are great others defy believe, but more importantly you stick by the team and club.Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
There Is no defence for what he has done. As a boycotter I have no regrets about that decision, nor would I criticise anyone that continues to go, but trying to rationalise the behaviour of that cu@t ... !!??WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
He never about us before he bought us, got a weekly or monthly report as all owners would from the CEO or MD. Looks at the bottom line every six months not the attendances. At least he has openly put his hands up in open forum and admitted mistakes were made, and I am sure even those who hate him the most he has bank rolled the club and has taken nothing out just kept it afloat as any owner of a football club would have done.MuttleyCAFC said:If you see an owner who you believe is destroying the club you love, it is hard to put money in his pocket. Yes, he may not lose any sleep over your money, but it does have a collective power in reminding him what a failure he is amongst other things. And this may or may not help him decide it isn't worth it in the end.
Fan doesn’t mean suck up any old nonsense that an owner hands out, as most Charlton supporters recognise, on here and in poll after poll.
You choose to believe it’s an ordinary situation because it suits you but you are in a tiny minority, as the reaction you get here shows.
Unless you don't want Charlton to grow, but prefer the empty stands and the all time record low crowd this season ?0 -
For the vast majority of the nearly 50 years that I have supported Charlton we haven't had great owners. We have had plenty of bad times and some good.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
All,about opinions, no one is defending anyone, merely stating support the club and team, bad ownership will soon become apparent. If things are out of your control no point cutting your nose off spite your face. Believe you me they are worse things in life that can fuck you off so in the meantime enjoy your passion in life and not turn it into a poison.superclive98 said:
Of course he would and be making excuses for the Oystons.Airman Brown said:
Would you be going to Blackpool home matches if you were a Blackpool fan?WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
That I understand, but there has been clubs ie Newcastle hated Shepherd, who did they get Ashley, bottom line is you support the team threw thick and thin, owners are players and managers they come and go, so are shit some are great others defy believe, but more importantly you stick by the team and club.Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
There Is no defence for what he has done. As a boycotter I have no regrets about that decision, nor would I criticise anyone that continues to go, but trying to rationalise the behaviour of that cu@t ... !!??WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
He never about us before he bought us, got a weekly or monthly report as all owners would from the CEO or MD. Looks at the bottom line every six months not the attendances. At least he has openly put his hands up in open forum and admitted mistakes were made, and I am sure even those who hate him the most he has bank rolled the club and has taken nothing out just kept it afloat as any owner of a football club would have done.MuttleyCAFC said:If you see an owner who you believe is destroying the club you love, it is hard to put money in his pocket. Yes, he may not lose any sleep over your money, but it does have a collective power in reminding him what a failure he is amongst other things. And this may or may not help him decide it isn't worth it in the end.
I've supported the team through relegation to the second and third tier and not thought twice about not continuing my support. We've left The Valley and played at Shitehurst and Upton Park and I was there.
What this owner has done, however, went to another level and I could not be seen to support that by paying my ticket money and turning up every other week like I had done for so many years. The only way that I could show my displeasure (other than the protests) was to refrain from attending matches.
I honestly believe that if many more had done the same then Roland may have been looking to sell sooner (I'm sure that plenty disagree with that, but that's okay).
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I wouldn’t worry about the last couple of years, ask them pieces of shit how many times they have won the FA Cup, they have been in our shadow most of our lives and always looked up to us over the last 113 years and not couple, I will take that.
What a load of old bollox to spout,think we all know (or most do) of our history,but that really doesn't mean a lot to my 8yr old littleun (at this point) or the other young supporters we are trying to keep interested in little ole CAFC...this battle with the c£&t in charge is right now in the present...& right at this time we are & it fucking hurts to say...we are in their shadow...& in them littleun's eyes that is the facts right here,right now...
Just hurry up a flog us u old decrepit tosspot...!!!5 -
We got to all move on , plenty were behind the regime for far too long and it’s not their fault they wouldn’t listen to me but next time they’ll know better .
Anyway we are play off bound so enjoy the rest of the season !3 -
Mug? Classy, you are genuinely telling me that the starting 11 that day were worse than Sheffield United. If the fans had to get up and leave at silly o’clock that day, and he wasn’t able to tactically work with the team and motivate them to get into the semi final of the FA Cup then yea maybe I am mug. BTW how many games did Koc play for us?cantersaddick said:
Or they have no need to raise finance against the assets.Davidsmith said:
Would also indicate buyer is an idiot and is happy to pay £20-£30mn for the Club with no control of it's most valuable assets, as charges are over all assets of the Club.bobmunro said:
Which would indicate that The Valley is part of the deal and the charges rollover.Davidsmith said:
Which also means buyer cannot raise any finance against said assets without permission or enter into any Leases on assets.
Worry if new buyer keeps charges outstanding as this is their best bargaining tool with Roland to get price down.
Lol you mug. Have you even got eyes?WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
Is that the England international that fucked up tatics at Bramell Lane that would have got us to the semi finals of the FA Cup. According to some he never put anything into the club but in your own admissions you have stated he has. He has lost millions, his own fault yes, as all other football chairmen, however if you look back at my point how many will return, I put it a very small percentage.MrLargo said:
Jesus Christ, what planet are you on? He's bank rolled the club because it would go into administration if he didn't continue to keep us afloat and then he'd lose everything he'd put into it.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
He never about us before he bought us, got a weekly or monthly report as all owners would from the CEO or MD. Looks at the bottom line every six months not the attendances. At least he has openly put his hands up in open forum and admitted mistakes were made, and I am sure even those who hate him the most he has bank rolled the club and has taken nothing out just kept it afloat as any owner of a football club would have done.MuttleyCAFC said:If you see an owner who you believe is destroying the club you love, it is hard to put money in his pocket. Yes, he may not lose any sleep over your money, but it does have a collective power in reminding him what a failure he is amongst other things. And this may or may not help him decide it isn't worth it in the end.
As for admitting mistakes, I've read that he acknowledges he shouldn't have got involved in football, still waiting for him to admit that emailing tactical advice to a former England international was a bad idea, as were virtually all of his signings, his choice of CEO, his chief scout, his managers, etc, etc, etc. Still waiting for the apology for damaging, perhaps irreparably, a 100 plus year old football club. Definitely wasn't aware that an "open forum" had taken place - I'd have been there like a shot of I'd known about it.
5 years of failure and destruction and there's still people excusing him, unbelievable.
What could Powell have done better at Bramell lane? Hed had the rug completely pulled from under him, his best players sold, was being pressured from above to play the network imports, the players knew what was going on, he knew it was all over and he had been told he was getting sacked if he didn't play the likes of Thuram and Koc.
I'd say he did as well as anyone could have in the circumstances.0 -
Well, if the issue is will the boycotters return ?WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
I ain’t bringing up old issues it’s was a question of will those that have boycotted return, I haven’t dug anyone out it appears that people don’t like another opinion of you can’t deal with it not my problem.Covered End said:Anyway WIwLB, we need to move on.
We all love Charlton so let's all pull in the same direction.
You want the club to grow again and it won't be so easily achieved by trying to bring up all the old issues again and again.
The answer is let's wait and see how many turn up tomorrow and then the acid test will be the first game after the announcement, as an initial indicator.
I'm confident that the announced attendance tomorrow, will be in excess of 15,000.
12,000 or so Charlton fans attending.
I'm hoping it will be more, to get behind the lads.
Sunderland will have 3,000 Mackems roaring them on.0 -
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None, which is one of the reasons why Roland was never going to keep Powell on.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
Mug? Classy, you are genuinely telling me that the starting 11 that day were worse than Sheffield United. If the fans had to get up and leave at silly o’clock that day, and he wasn’t able to tactically work with the team and motivate them to get into the semi final of the FA Cup then yea maybe I am mug. BTW how many games did Koc play for us?cantersaddick said:
Or they have no need to raise finance against the assets.Davidsmith said:
Would also indicate buyer is an idiot and is happy to pay £20-£30mn for the Club with no control of it's most valuable assets, as charges are over all assets of the Club.bobmunro said:
Which would indicate that The Valley is part of the deal and the charges rollover.Davidsmith said:
Which also means buyer cannot raise any finance against said assets without permission or enter into any Leases on assets.
Worry if new buyer keeps charges outstanding as this is their best bargaining tool with Roland to get price down.
Lol you mug. Have you even got eyes?WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
Is that the England international that fucked up tatics at Bramell Lane that would have got us to the semi finals of the FA Cup. According to some he never put anything into the club but in your own admissions you have stated he has. He has lost millions, his own fault yes, as all other football chairmen, however if you look back at my point how many will return, I put it a very small percentage.MrLargo said:
Jesus Christ, what planet are you on? He's bank rolled the club because it would go into administration if he didn't continue to keep us afloat and then he'd lose everything he'd put into it.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
He never about us before he bought us, got a weekly or monthly report as all owners would from the CEO or MD. Looks at the bottom line every six months not the attendances. At least he has openly put his hands up in open forum and admitted mistakes were made, and I am sure even those who hate him the most he has bank rolled the club and has taken nothing out just kept it afloat as any owner of a football club would have done.MuttleyCAFC said:If you see an owner who you believe is destroying the club you love, it is hard to put money in his pocket. Yes, he may not lose any sleep over your money, but it does have a collective power in reminding him what a failure he is amongst other things. And this may or may not help him decide it isn't worth it in the end.
As for admitting mistakes, I've read that he acknowledges he shouldn't have got involved in football, still waiting for him to admit that emailing tactical advice to a former England international was a bad idea, as were virtually all of his signings, his choice of CEO, his chief scout, his managers, etc, etc, etc. Still waiting for the apology for damaging, perhaps irreparably, a 100 plus year old football club. Definitely wasn't aware that an "open forum" had taken place - I'd have been there like a shot of I'd known about it.
5 years of failure and destruction and there's still people excusing him, unbelievable.
What could Powell have done better at Bramell lane? Hed had the rug completely pulled from under him, his best players sold, was being pressured from above to play the network imports, the players knew what was going on, he knew it was all over and he had been told he was getting sacked if he didn't play the likes of Thuram and Koc.
I'd say he did as well as anyone could have in the circumstances.
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I was as disappointed as anyone on that sunny day in Sheffield, but to try to blame SCP for the outcome that day, with everything that was going on behind the scenes, is ludicrous and ignores the great job that he had done prior to Roland's arrival and, lately, under difficult circumstances.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
Mug? Classy, you are genuinely telling me that the starting 11 that day were worse than Sheffield United. If the fans had to get up and leave at silly o’clock that day, and he wasn’t able to tactically work with the team and motivate them to get into the semi final of the FA Cup then yea maybe I am mug. BTW how many games did Koc play for us?cantersaddick said:
Or they have no need to raise finance against the assets.Davidsmith said:
Would also indicate buyer is an idiot and is happy to pay £20-£30mn for the Club with no control of it's most valuable assets, as charges are over all assets of the Club.bobmunro said:
Which would indicate that The Valley is part of the deal and the charges rollover.Davidsmith said:
Which also means buyer cannot raise any finance against said assets without permission or enter into any Leases on assets.
Worry if new buyer keeps charges outstanding as this is their best bargaining tool with Roland to get price down.
Lol you mug. Have you even got eyes?WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
Is that the England international that fucked up tatics at Bramell Lane that would have got us to the semi finals of the FA Cup. According to some he never put anything into the club but in your own admissions you have stated he has. He has lost millions, his own fault yes, as all other football chairmen, however if you look back at my point how many will return, I put it a very small percentage.MrLargo said:
Jesus Christ, what planet are you on? He's bank rolled the club because it would go into administration if he didn't continue to keep us afloat and then he'd lose everything he'd put into it.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
He never about us before he bought us, got a weekly or monthly report as all owners would from the CEO or MD. Looks at the bottom line every six months not the attendances. At least he has openly put his hands up in open forum and admitted mistakes were made, and I am sure even those who hate him the most he has bank rolled the club and has taken nothing out just kept it afloat as any owner of a football club would have done.MuttleyCAFC said:If you see an owner who you believe is destroying the club you love, it is hard to put money in his pocket. Yes, he may not lose any sleep over your money, but it does have a collective power in reminding him what a failure he is amongst other things. And this may or may not help him decide it isn't worth it in the end.
As for admitting mistakes, I've read that he acknowledges he shouldn't have got involved in football, still waiting for him to admit that emailing tactical advice to a former England international was a bad idea, as were virtually all of his signings, his choice of CEO, his chief scout, his managers, etc, etc, etc. Still waiting for the apology for damaging, perhaps irreparably, a 100 plus year old football club. Definitely wasn't aware that an "open forum" had taken place - I'd have been there like a shot of I'd known about it.
5 years of failure and destruction and there's still people excusing him, unbelievable.
What could Powell have done better at Bramell lane? Hed had the rug completely pulled from under him, his best players sold, was being pressured from above to play the network imports, the players knew what was going on, he knew it was all over and he had been told he was getting sacked if he didn't play the likes of Thuram and Koc.
I'd say he did as well as anyone could have in the circumstances.21 - Sponsored links:
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good job they got rid of Kermorgant for Polish Pete16
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100% correct. In my opinion, an empty stadium would have got rid of him a long time ago, but that can never be proven ..superclive98 said:
For the vast majority of the nearly 50 years that I have supported Charlton we haven't had great owners. We have had plenty of bad times and some good.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
All,about opinions, no one is defending anyone, merely stating support the club and team, bad ownership will soon become apparent. If things are out of your control no point cutting your nose off spite your face. Believe you me they are worse things in life that can fuck you off so in the meantime enjoy your passion in life and not turn it into a poison.superclive98 said:
Of course he would and be making excuses for the Oystons.Airman Brown said:
Would you be going to Blackpool home matches if you were a Blackpool fan?WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
That I understand, but there has been clubs ie Newcastle hated Shepherd, who did they get Ashley, bottom line is you support the team threw thick and thin, owners are players and managers they come and go, so are shit some are great others defy believe, but more importantly you stick by the team and club.Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
There Is no defence for what he has done. As a boycotter I have no regrets about that decision, nor would I criticise anyone that continues to go, but trying to rationalise the behaviour of that cu@t ... !!??WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
He never about us before he bought us, got a weekly or monthly report as all owners would from the CEO or MD. Looks at the bottom line every six months not the attendances. At least he has openly put his hands up in open forum and admitted mistakes were made, and I am sure even those who hate him the most he has bank rolled the club and has taken nothing out just kept it afloat as any owner of a football club would have done.MuttleyCAFC said:If you see an owner who you believe is destroying the club you love, it is hard to put money in his pocket. Yes, he may not lose any sleep over your money, but it does have a collective power in reminding him what a failure he is amongst other things. And this may or may not help him decide it isn't worth it in the end.
I've supported the team through relegation to the second and third tier and not thought twice about not continuing my support. We've left The Valley and played at Shitehurst and Upton Park and I was there.
What this owner has done, however, went to another level and I could not be seen to support that by paying my ticket money and turning up every other week like I had done for so many years. The only way that I could show my displeasure (other than the protests) was to refrain from attending matches.
I honestly believe that if many more had done the same then Roland may have been looking to sell sooner (I'm sure that plenty disagree with that, but that's okay).
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A sign of things to come.oohaahmortimer said:good job they got rid of Kermorgant for Polish Pete
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Powell was always out the door from day one he knew that and as even said as much, the cup run kept him in the job, nothing unusual for a club under new ownership to bring in a new manager, mind you what would I know I’m a mugScoham said:
None, which is one of the reasons why Roland was never going to keep Powell on.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
Mug? Classy, you are genuinely telling me that the starting 11 that day were worse than Sheffield United. If the fans had to get up and leave at silly o’clock that day, and he wasn’t able to tactically work with the team and motivate them to get into the semi final of the FA Cup then yea maybe I am mug. BTW how many games did Koc play for us?cantersaddick said:
Or they have no need to raise finance against the assets.Davidsmith said:
Would also indicate buyer is an idiot and is happy to pay £20-£30mn for the Club with no control of it's most valuable assets, as charges are over all assets of the Club.bobmunro said:
Which would indicate that The Valley is part of the deal and the charges rollover.Davidsmith said:
Which also means buyer cannot raise any finance against said assets without permission or enter into any Leases on assets.
Worry if new buyer keeps charges outstanding as this is their best bargaining tool with Roland to get price down.
Lol you mug. Have you even got eyes?WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
Is that the England international that fucked up tatics at Bramell Lane that would have got us to the semi finals of the FA Cup. According to some he never put anything into the club but in your own admissions you have stated he has. He has lost millions, his own fault yes, as all other football chairmen, however if you look back at my point how many will return, I put it a very small percentage.MrLargo said:
Jesus Christ, what planet are you on? He's bank rolled the club because it would go into administration if he didn't continue to keep us afloat and then he'd lose everything he'd put into it.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
He never about us before he bought us, got a weekly or monthly report as all owners would from the CEO or MD. Looks at the bottom line every six months not the attendances. At least he has openly put his hands up in open forum and admitted mistakes were made, and I am sure even those who hate him the most he has bank rolled the club and has taken nothing out just kept it afloat as any owner of a football club would have done.MuttleyCAFC said:If you see an owner who you believe is destroying the club you love, it is hard to put money in his pocket. Yes, he may not lose any sleep over your money, but it does have a collective power in reminding him what a failure he is amongst other things. And this may or may not help him decide it isn't worth it in the end.
As for admitting mistakes, I've read that he acknowledges he shouldn't have got involved in football, still waiting for him to admit that emailing tactical advice to a former England international was a bad idea, as were virtually all of his signings, his choice of CEO, his chief scout, his managers, etc, etc, etc. Still waiting for the apology for damaging, perhaps irreparably, a 100 plus year old football club. Definitely wasn't aware that an "open forum" had taken place - I'd have been there like a shot of I'd known about it.
5 years of failure and destruction and there's still people excusing him, unbelievable.
What could Powell have done better at Bramell lane? Hed had the rug completely pulled from under him, his best players sold, was being pressured from above to play the network imports, the players knew what was going on, he knew it was all over and he had been told he was getting sacked if he didn't play the likes of Thuram and Koc.
I'd say he did as well as anyone could have in the circumstances.
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Judging by the responses (multiple) I’d suggest there are very few who agree with your thoughts.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
Mug? Classy, you are genuinely telling me that the starting 11 that day were worse than Sheffield United. If the fans had to get up and leave at silly o’clock that day, and he wasn’t able to tactically work with the team and motivate them to get into the semi final of the FA Cup then yea maybe I am mug. BTW how many games did Koc play for us?cantersaddick said:
Or they have no need to raise finance against the assets.Davidsmith said:
Would also indicate buyer is an idiot and is happy to pay £20-£30mn for the Club with no control of it's most valuable assets, as charges are over all assets of the Club.bobmunro said:
Which would indicate that The Valley is part of the deal and the charges rollover.Davidsmith said:
Which also means buyer cannot raise any finance against said assets without permission or enter into any Leases on assets.
Worry if new buyer keeps charges outstanding as this is their best bargaining tool with Roland to get price down.
Lol you mug. Have you even got eyes?WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
Is that the England international that fucked up tatics at Bramell Lane that would have got us to the semi finals of the FA Cup. According to some he never put anything into the club but in your own admissions you have stated he has. He has lost millions, his own fault yes, as all other football chairmen, however if you look back at my point how many will return, I put it a very small percentage.MrLargo said:
Jesus Christ, what planet are you on? He's bank rolled the club because it would go into administration if he didn't continue to keep us afloat and then he'd lose everything he'd put into it.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
He never about us before he bought us, got a weekly or monthly report as all owners would from the CEO or MD. Looks at the bottom line every six months not the attendances. At least he has openly put his hands up in open forum and admitted mistakes were made, and I am sure even those who hate him the most he has bank rolled the club and has taken nothing out just kept it afloat as any owner of a football club would have done.MuttleyCAFC said:If you see an owner who you believe is destroying the club you love, it is hard to put money in his pocket. Yes, he may not lose any sleep over your money, but it does have a collective power in reminding him what a failure he is amongst other things. And this may or may not help him decide it isn't worth it in the end.
As for admitting mistakes, I've read that he acknowledges he shouldn't have got involved in football, still waiting for him to admit that emailing tactical advice to a former England international was a bad idea, as were virtually all of his signings, his choice of CEO, his chief scout, his managers, etc, etc, etc. Still waiting for the apology for damaging, perhaps irreparably, a 100 plus year old football club. Definitely wasn't aware that an "open forum" had taken place - I'd have been there like a shot of I'd known about it.
5 years of failure and destruction and there's still people excusing him, unbelievable.
What could Powell have done better at Bramell lane? Hed had the rug completely pulled from under him, his best players sold, was being pressured from above to play the network imports, the players knew what was going on, he knew it was all over and he had been told he was getting sacked if he didn't play the likes of Thuram and Koc.
I'd say he did as well as anyone could have in the circumstances.
Reacting to every comment you receive is turning your passion into poison.
Once it’s done, let’s all get down the Valley, sing our songs, support the team and club whilst trying to forget what this Belgian experiment has done to our “still great club”
Fingers crossed that the deal goes through and we can start a new chapter.4 -
Anyway, how did Yann get on after he left us?superclive98 said:
A sign of things to come.oohaahmortimer said:good job they got rid of Kermorgant for Polish Pete
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He was Pony! Got Bournemouth promoted, and then Reading to the Playoffs.superclive98 said:
Anyway, how did Yann get on after he left us?superclive98 said:
A sign of things to come.oohaahmortimer said:good job they got rid of Kermorgant for Polish Pete
Truly awful 😂
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No wonder they got rid of him!!CafcSCP said:
He was Pony! Got Bournemouth promoted, and then Reading to the Playoffs.superclive98 said:
Anyway, how did Yann get on after he left us?superclive98 said:
A sign of things to come.oohaahmortimer said:good job they got rid of Kermorgant for Polish Pete
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Well yeah, the only way he'd have stayed is if he agreed to Roland's ridiculous plans and won games with a team of network and academy players. So it was never going to happen.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
Powell was always out the door from day one he knew that and as even said as much, the cup run kept him in the job, nothing unusual for a club under new ownership to bring in a new manager, mind you what would I know I’m a mugScoham said:
None, which is one of the reasons why Roland was never going to keep Powell on.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
Mug? Classy, you are genuinely telling me that the starting 11 that day were worse than Sheffield United. If the fans had to get up and leave at silly o’clock that day, and he wasn’t able to tactically work with the team and motivate them to get into the semi final of the FA Cup then yea maybe I am mug. BTW how many games did Koc play for us?cantersaddick said:
Or they have no need to raise finance against the assets.Davidsmith said:
Would also indicate buyer is an idiot and is happy to pay £20-£30mn for the Club with no control of it's most valuable assets, as charges are over all assets of the Club.bobmunro said:
Which would indicate that The Valley is part of the deal and the charges rollover.Davidsmith said:
Which also means buyer cannot raise any finance against said assets without permission or enter into any Leases on assets.
Worry if new buyer keeps charges outstanding as this is their best bargaining tool with Roland to get price down.
Lol you mug. Have you even got eyes?WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
Is that the England international that fucked up tatics at Bramell Lane that would have got us to the semi finals of the FA Cup. According to some he never put anything into the club but in your own admissions you have stated he has. He has lost millions, his own fault yes, as all other football chairmen, however if you look back at my point how many will return, I put it a very small percentage.MrLargo said:
Jesus Christ, what planet are you on? He's bank rolled the club because it would go into administration if he didn't continue to keep us afloat and then he'd lose everything he'd put into it.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
He never about us before he bought us, got a weekly or monthly report as all owners would from the CEO or MD. Looks at the bottom line every six months not the attendances. At least he has openly put his hands up in open forum and admitted mistakes were made, and I am sure even those who hate him the most he has bank rolled the club and has taken nothing out just kept it afloat as any owner of a football club would have done.MuttleyCAFC said:If you see an owner who you believe is destroying the club you love, it is hard to put money in his pocket. Yes, he may not lose any sleep over your money, but it does have a collective power in reminding him what a failure he is amongst other things. And this may or may not help him decide it isn't worth it in the end.
As for admitting mistakes, I've read that he acknowledges he shouldn't have got involved in football, still waiting for him to admit that emailing tactical advice to a former England international was a bad idea, as were virtually all of his signings, his choice of CEO, his chief scout, his managers, etc, etc, etc. Still waiting for the apology for damaging, perhaps irreparably, a 100 plus year old football club. Definitely wasn't aware that an "open forum" had taken place - I'd have been there like a shot of I'd known about it.
5 years of failure and destruction and there's still people excusing him, unbelievable.
What could Powell have done better at Bramell lane? Hed had the rug completely pulled from under him, his best players sold, was being pressured from above to play the network imports, the players knew what was going on, he knew it was all over and he had been told he was getting sacked if he didn't play the likes of Thuram and Koc.
I'd say he did as well as anyone could have in the circumstances.1
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