This is the sole reason why I didnt boycott - After five years of having something else to do I probably wouldnt so didnt want to run the risk
Never understand it and never will, you support the club through thick and thin regardless. How a billionaire will lose sleep over someone’s 250 quid escapes me.Lets be honest he dug his heels in for five years
True but they've equally stood by something they believe in and you could argue that by boycotting they've helped speed up the sale - Roland is so rich that £250 dont matter if he receives it or not but he's gotten rich by making every penny he can so will always appreciate every penny he gets!!
But can you get moments back in life by being stubborn. ? He must have done something right life to get the wealth he has,let’s be honest people were doing cartwheels when he bought us and found out his wealth.
They've not really missed any moments under Roland have they though? - Maybe getting to see a future England star in Defence
End of the day he'd still have reason to be here if he was getting good attendances; with those figures going down it highlighted his failures (like what Muttley mentions) and eventually made him realise there wasnt any reward out of owning us so decided amongst other factors to give up
I enjoyed JBG, Buyens, Tony Watt in the last few minutes when he took liberties, Jose Riga, bringing Bowyer in, back end of last season, this season has seen of the best football in years
I'd agree to that in some content... We have seen some very enjoyable football but at the same time there has been an equal amount of bad football i.e. you've got to remember the time under Karel Fraeye as being one of those where Stephen Henderson especially was forced to do that interview after the Huddersfield game when no player should have been put into that situation
Yet as Muttley said, with those good moments came a relegation, and nor did win promotion at any point so those seasons will slowly blur together as the years pass
If you see an owner who you believe is destroying the club you love, it is hard to put money in his pocket. Yes, he may not lose any sleep over your money, but it does have a collective power in reminding him what a failure he is amongst other things. And this may or may not help him decide it isn't worth it in the end.
He never about us before he bought us, got a weekly or monthly report as all owners would from the CEO or MD. Looks at the bottom line every six months not the attendances. At least he has openly put his hands up in open forum and admitted mistakes were made, and I am sure even those who hate him the most he has bank rolled the club and has taken nothing out just kept it afloat as any owner of a football club would have done.
Jesus Christ, what planet are you on? He's bank rolled the club because it would go into administration if he didn't continue to keep us afloat and then he'd lose everything he'd put into it.
As for admitting mistakes, I've read that he acknowledges he shouldn't have got involved in football, still waiting for him to admit that emailing tactical advice to a former England international was a bad idea, as were virtually all of his signings, his choice of CEO, his chief scout, his managers, etc, etc, etc. Still waiting for the apology for damaging, perhaps irreparably, a 100 plus year old football club. Definitely wasn't aware that an "open forum" had taken place - I'd have been there like a shot of I'd known about it.
5 years of failure and destruction and there's still people excusing him, unbelievable.
Is that the England international that fucked up tatics at Bramell Lane that would have got us to the semi finals of the FA Cup. According to some he never put anything into the club but in your own admissions you have stated he has. He has lost millions, his own fault yes, as all other football chairmen, however if you look back at my point how many will return, I put it a very small percentage.
This is the sole reason why I didnt boycott - After five years of having something else to do I probably wouldnt so didnt want to run the risk
Never understand it and never will, you support the club through thick and thin regardless. How a billionaire will lose sleep over someone’s 250 quid escapes me.Lets be honest he dug his heels in for five years
True but they've equally stood by something they believe in and you could argue that by boycotting they've helped speed up the sale - Roland is so rich that £250 dont matter if he receives it or not but he's gotten rich by making every penny he can so will always appreciate every penny he gets!!
But can you get moments back in life by being stubborn. ? He must have done something right life to get the wealth he has,let’s be honest people were doing cartwheels when he bought us and found out his wealth.
They've not really missed any moments under Roland have they though? - Maybe getting to see a future England star in Defence
End of the day he'd still have reason to be here if he was getting good attendances; with those figures going down it highlighted his failures (like what Muttley mentions) and eventually made him realise there wasnt any reward out of owning us so decided amongst other factors to give up
I enjoyed JBG, Buyens, Tony Watt in the last few minutes when he took liberties, Jose Riga, bringing Bowyer in, back end of last season, this season has seen of the best football in years, as well as watching a hard working spirited team, but then there are other things in life that are totally out of our control and you realise life is to short. Look at Newcastle and the arse that owns them, what do there fans do?
What happened, which eventually led to relegation was the squad was imbalanced every season under Duchatelet. He sort of did half of what he should have but didn't put the icing on the cake. Because of this, we got found out when a few injuries kicked in. In the season we got relegated, we actually started strongly. I recall Forest kicking the crap out of us in an early season away draw because we were too good for them. We picked up a few key injuries and the slide that led to relegation started.
The idiot appointed people who didn't know what they were doing like Miere and underpants guy and trusted them over people who did. I actually think Peeters was decent but he wasn't supported. Riga kept us up and was got rid of - probably because he wanted to do things his way and Powell was not willing to take the crap that Duchatelet demanded. He needed a yes man and when Luzon proved not to be that he found the worst manager in our history to do as he was told.
Then showing what a bunch of morons ran the club they decided they needed an English manager. No, what they needed was a good manager. They chose a manager who had been in the lower leagues for a long time but never got promoted, Why not appoint somebody at least who has shown they can get promoted. They did appoint somebody who had, and whilst he didn't have a glorious spell, at least I could see the reasoning. Bowyer was just the cheap option and we got lucky!
Throughout this, we had to put up with patronising comments from people who we knew were out of their depth. Duchatelet was a disaster and anybody who can't see that doesn't understand football.
This is the sole reason why I didnt boycott - After five years of having something else to do I probably wouldnt so didnt want to run the risk
Never understand it and never will, you support the club through thick and thin regardless. How a billionaire will lose sleep over someone’s 250 quid escapes me.Lets be honest he dug his heels in for five years
True but they've equally stood by something they believe in and you could argue that by boycotting they've helped speed up the sale - Roland is so rich that £250 dont matter if he receives it or not but he's gotten rich by making every penny he can so will always appreciate every penny he gets!!
But can you get moments back in life by being stubborn. ? He must have done something right life to get the wealth he has,let’s be honest people were doing cartwheels when he bought us and found out his wealth.
They've not really missed any moments under Roland have they though? - Maybe getting to see a future England star in Defence
End of the day he'd still have reason to be here if he was getting good attendances; with those figures going down it highlighted his failures (like what Muttley mentions) and eventually made him realise there wasnt any reward out of owning us so decided amongst other factors to give up
I enjoyed JBG, Buyens, Tony Watt in the last few minutes when he took liberties, Jose Riga, bringing Bowyer in, back end of last season, this season has seen of the best football in years
I'd agree to that in some content... We have seen some very enjoyable football but at the same time there has been an equal amount of bad football i.e. you've got to remember the time under Karel Fraeye as being one of those where Stephen Henderson especially was forced to do that interview after the Huddersfield game when no player should have been put into that situation
Yet as Muttley said, with those good moments came a relegation, and nor did win promotion at any point so those seasons will slowly blur together as the years pass
I give you Fraeye was a prick, Colchester in the cup still sends shivers down my spine. But watching the passion of Luzon, Peters scaring the shit out of managers, and bringing Bowyer in was a shrewd move.
Bowyer wasn't shrewd. It was cheap. The credit for what Bowyer has achieved goes 100% to Bowyer. Both Luzon and Peeters left the club feeling frustrated and let down. Add Powell and Riga to the list of decent mangers let down and you have to see the pattern. Duchatelet tried to find the football equivalent of Moneyball. The problem was, he did it with the naivity and incompetence that suggests his mental powers may have diminished over the years.
This is the sole reason why I didnt boycott - After five years of having something else to do I probably wouldnt so didnt want to run the risk
Never understand it and never will, you support the club through thick and thin regardless. How a billionaire will lose sleep over someone’s 250 quid escapes me.Lets be honest he dug his heels in for five years
True but they've equally stood by something they believe in and you could argue that by boycotting they've helped speed up the sale - Roland is so rich that £250 dont matter if he receives it or not but he's gotten rich by making every penny he can so will always appreciate every penny he gets!!
But can you get moments back in life by being stubborn. ? He must have done something right life to get the wealth he has,let’s be honest people were doing cartwheels when he bought us and found out his wealth.
They've not really missed any moments under Roland have they though? - Maybe getting to see a future England star in Defence
End of the day he'd still have reason to be here if he was getting good attendances; with those figures going down it highlighted his failures (like what Muttley mentions) and eventually made him realise there wasnt any reward out of owning us so decided amongst other factors to give up
I enjoyed JBG, Buyens, Tony Watt in the last few minutes when he took liberties, Jose Riga, bringing Bowyer in, back end of last season, this season has seen of the best football in years
I'd agree to that in some content... We have seen some very enjoyable football but at the same time there has been an equal amount of bad football i.e. you've got to remember the time under Karel Fraeye as being one of those where Stephen Henderson especially was forced to do that interview after the Huddersfield game when no player should have been put into that situation
Yet as Muttley said, with those good moments came a relegation, and nor did win promotion at any point so those seasons will slowly blur together as the years pass
I give you Fraeye was a prick, Colchester in the cup still sends shivers down my spine. But watching the passion of Luzon, Peters scaring the shit out of managers, and bringing Bowyer in was a shrewd move.
Luzon and Peeters were very similar to Robinson in that they only wanted to play their one system. They were never likely to achieve anything.
Bowyer being up to the job was luck on Roland's part rather than shrewd judgment.
I don't consider myself a boycotter more a lapsed supporter from 2014-201? I returned the club I love every year for the Upbeats walk, also once to pay my respects to PC Palmer and once to rattle a bucket for Lyle Taylor and Tracey Leaburn and their Breastcancer awareness and hopefully I will cycle London to Amsterdam with Charlton Staff, former players and supporters to raise money for prostate cancer. But never once have felt the need to question supporters of these great club for not supporting and showing some sort of loyalty to the community work the trust does everyday. To me the whole ethic of this club was destroyed by this man and his hangers on, so much so the club started rebuilding bridges by sending emails and press releases under the guise of the community trust. I went to Belgium to see not if I could make a difference but to see and meet up with those that felt as I once did, had I not gone it would have been over. From then on I started watching the team on tv every week and over time found myself leaping from the chair again when we scored. If and when this guy leaves surely the the emphasis should be on rebuilding the club and it's fan base not on who stayed away and who continued to attend.
If you see an owner who you believe is destroying the club you love, it is hard to put money in his pocket. Yes, he may not lose any sleep over your money, but it does have a collective power in reminding him what a failure he is amongst other things. And this may or may not help him decide it isn't worth it in the end.
He never about us before he bought us, got a weekly or monthly report as all owners would from the CEO or MD. Looks at the bottom line every six months not the attendances. At least he has openly put his hands up in open forum and admitted mistakes were made, and I am sure even those who hate him the most he has bank rolled the club and has taken nothing out just kept it afloat as any owner of a football club would have done.
Jesus Christ, what planet are you on? He's bank rolled the club because it would go into administration if he didn't continue to keep us afloat and then he'd lose everything he'd put into it.
As for admitting mistakes, I've read that he acknowledges he shouldn't have got involved in football, still waiting for him to admit that emailing tactical advice to a former England international was a bad idea, as were virtually all of his signings, his choice of CEO, his chief scout, his managers, etc, etc, etc. Still waiting for the apology for damaging, perhaps irreparably, a 100 plus year old football club. Definitely wasn't aware that an "open forum" had taken place - I'd have been there like a shot of I'd known about it.
5 years of failure and destruction and there's still people excusing him, unbelievable.
Is that the England international that fucked up tatics at Bramell Lane that would have got us to the semi finals of the FA Cup. According to some he never put anything into the club but in your own admissions you have stated he has. He has lost millions, his own fault yes, as all other football chairmen, however if you look back at my point how many will return, I put it a very small percentage.
It's the England international that won us League 1 with a record number of points, got is to 9th in the Championship after the previous lot ran out of cash and got is to an FA Cup quarter final. I think you'll find Roland stuck his oar into footballing affairs again for the quarter final itself, hence it went pear-shaped
If you want to give him credit for doing the business equivalent of keeping up the minimum repayments on a credit card then that's up to you.
Obviously everyone's entitled to their own opinion and you're therefore perfectly entitled to slate Chris Powell and send a thank you card to Roland. In my opinion, you need your head examining.
Yep we've just been unlucky that Palace are pissing about in the Prem beating Man City and at the same time the scum are playing in the Championship and whilst that is happening Roland has given us another opportunity to equal and unless promoted this season create a new club record for ourselves of being in the third tier of English football for 3 seasons or more since we first left it in 1929 .
To me the boycotters are the hero's , everyone who refrained from spending , that twunt would not have left if our club was not losing a large some of money regularly for him , so every bit helps. I took the easier option of brain washing my kids and still going .
It's saved me a small fortune in kids kits , matchday programmes , match sponsorship , Valley Gold etc but my Charlton moral compass is different to others .
There was no way that prick was getting dough from me whilst he fucked my club up and turned it in to a laughing stock , I mean we are so pathetic I get pity from palace fans ffs
Sooner he goes the better and I have thought that from very early on in his ownership but then I could see unlike others that this pricks experiment was only heading one way
If you see an owner who you believe is destroying the club you love, it is hard to put money in his pocket. Yes, he may not lose any sleep over your money, but it does have a collective power in reminding him what a failure he is amongst other things. And this may or may not help him decide it isn't worth it in the end.
He never about us before he bought us, got a weekly or monthly report as all owners would from the CEO or MD. Looks at the bottom line every six months not the attendances. At least he has openly put his hands up in open forum and admitted mistakes were made, and I am sure even those who hate him the most he has bank rolled the club and has taken nothing out just kept it afloat as any owner of a football club would have done.
Jesus Christ, what planet are you on? He's bank rolled the club because it would go into administration if he didn't continue to keep us afloat and then he'd lose everything he'd put into it.
As for admitting mistakes, I've read that he acknowledges he shouldn't have got involved in football, still waiting for him to admit that emailing tactical advice to a former England international was a bad idea, as were virtually all of his signings, his choice of CEO, his chief scout, his managers, etc, etc, etc. Still waiting for the apology for damaging, perhaps irreparably, a 100 plus year old football club. Definitely wasn't aware that an "open forum" had taken place - I'd have been there like a shot of I'd known about it.
5 years of failure and destruction and there's still people excusing him, unbelievable.
Is that the England international that fucked up tatics at Bramell Lane that would have got us to the semi finals of the FA Cup. According to some he never put anything into the club but in your own admissions you have stated he has. He has lost millions, his own fault yes, as all other football chairmen, however if you look back at my point how many will return, I put it a very small percentage.
It's the England international that won us League 1 with a record number of points, got is to 9th in the Championship after the previous lot ran out of cash and got is to an FA Cup quarter final. I think you'll find Roland stuck his oar into footballing affairs again for the quarter final itself, hence it went pear-shaped
If you want to give him credit for doing the business equivalent of keeping up the minimum repayments on a credit card then that's up to you.
Obviously everyone's entitled to their own opinion and you're therefore perfectly entitled to slate Chris Powell and send a thank you card to Roland. In my opinion, you need your head examining.
If you see an owner who you believe is destroying the club you love, it is hard to put money in his pocket. Yes, he may not lose any sleep over your money, but it does have a collective power in reminding him what a failure he is amongst other things. And this may or may not help him decide it isn't worth it in the end.
He never about us before he bought us, got a weekly or monthly report as all owners would from the CEO or MD. Looks at the bottom line every six months not the attendances. At least he has openly put his hands up in open forum and admitted mistakes were made, and I am sure even those who hate him the most he has bank rolled the club and has taken nothing out just kept it afloat as any owner of a football club would have done.
Jesus Christ, what planet are you on? He's bank rolled the club because it would go into administration if he didn't continue to keep us afloat and then he'd lose everything he'd put into it.
As for admitting mistakes, I've read that he acknowledges he shouldn't have got involved in football, still waiting for him to admit that emailing tactical advice to a former England international was a bad idea, as were virtually all of his signings, his choice of CEO, his chief scout, his managers, etc, etc, etc. Still waiting for the apology for damaging, perhaps irreparably, a 100 plus year old football club. Definitely wasn't aware that an "open forum" had taken place - I'd have been there like a shot of I'd known about it.
5 years of failure and destruction and there's still people excusing him, unbelievable.
Is that the England international that fucked up tatics at Bramell Lane that would have got us to the semi finals of the FA Cup. According to some he never put anything into the club but in your own admissions you have stated he has. He has lost millions, his own fault yes, as all other football chairmen, however if you look back at my point how many will return, I put it a very small percentage.
It's the England international that won us League 1 with a record number of points, got is to 9th in the Championship after the previous lot ran out of cash and got is to an FA Cup quarter final. I think you'll find Roland stuck his oar into footballing affairs again for the quarter final itself, hence it went pear-shaped
If you want to give him credit for doing the business equivalent of keeping up the minimum repayments on a credit card then that's up to you.
Obviously everyone's entitled to their own opinion and you're therefore perfectly entitled to slate Chris Powell and send a thank you card to Roland. In my opinion, you need your head examining.
Your last statement sums up the poison in what happens when someone has an opinion that you don’t agree with. What was your opening line on the post prior to that “What plant are you on”. I need say no more.
Which would indicate that The Valley is part of the deal and the charges rollover.
Would also indicate buyer is an idiot and is happy to pay £20-£30mn for the Club with no control of it's most valuable assets, as charges are over all assets of the Club. Which also means buyer cannot raise any finance against said assets without permission or enter into any Leases on assets. Worry if new buyer keeps charges outstanding as this is their best bargaining tool with Roland to get price down.
Maybe they don't need to raise finance against the assets, and are happy to let the non-interest bearing loans sit there knowing that should they get to the promised land the first £7m of the £100m+ Prem dividend is used to clear the charges.
We also don't have details of exactly how much they might have paid, and this could have been negotiated down to reflect the outstanding loans.
Which is what I said months & months ago. The ex-director loans are a drop in the ocean if/when we get to the Pram They are only paid back then. No interest due either. Could be in 3 years.....could be in 30 years.
If any owner need a to start taking loans secured on the club/ground then they are not the owner you want.
When the north end wrap around was built for £9M with a £6M bank loan, wasn't that secured against The Valley?
The north stand loan has been paid off.
I know but it was a regime borrowing against the assets.
Yep we've just been unlucky that Palace are pissing about in the Prem beating Man City and at the same time the scum are playing in the Championship and whilst that is happening Roland has given us another opportunity to equal and unless promoted this season create a new club record for ourselves of being in the third tier of English football for 3 seasons or more since we first left it in 1929 .
To me the boycotters are the hero's , everyone who refrained from spending , that twunt would not have left if our club was not losing a large some of money regularly for him , so every bit helps. I took the easier option of brain washing my kids and still going .
It's saved me a small fortune in kids kits , matchday programmes , match sponsorship , Valley Gold etc but my Charlton moral compass is different to others .
There was no way that prick was getting dough from me whilst he fucked my club up and turned it in to a laughing stock , I mean we are so pathetic I get pity from palace fans ffs
Sooner he goes the better and I have thought that from very early on in his ownership but then I could see unlike others that this pricks experiment was only heading one way
I wouldn’t worry about the last couple of years, ask them pieces of shit how many times they have won the FA Cup, they have been in our shadow most of our lives and always looked up to us over the last 113 years and not couple, I will take that.
I won’t be buying a season ticket until I know they share the same feelings as I do for Charlton Athletic.
I can answer that for you. An Australian consortium will not share the same feelings as you do for Charlton Athletic. However, there are probably few football club owners in the world, that have the same feelings for the club as the fans. If that's the football fan's measurement, then few would buy a S/T anywhere.
Yep we've just been unlucky that Palace are pissing about in the Prem beating Man City and at the same time the scum are playing in the Championship and whilst that is happening Roland has given us another opportunity to equal and unless promoted this season create a new club record for ourselves of being in the third tier of English football for 3 seasons or more since we first left it in 1929 .
To me the boycotters are the hero's , everyone who refrained from spending , that twunt would not have left if our club was not losing a large some of money regularly for him , so every bit helps. I took the easier option of brain washing my kids and still going .
It's saved me a small fortune in kids kits , matchday programmes , match sponsorship , Valley Gold etc but my Charlton moral compass is different to others .
There was no way that prick was getting dough from me whilst he fucked my club up and turned it in to a laughing stock , I mean we are so pathetic I get pity from palace fans ffs
Sooner he goes the better and I have thought that from very early on in his ownership but then I could see unlike others that this pricks experiment was only heading one way
I wouldn’t worry about the last couple of years, ask them pieces of shit how many times they have won the FA Cup, they have been in our shadow most of our lives and always looked up to us over the last 113 years and not couple, I will take that.
They respond with how many Cup Finals have you witnessed your club in and whats the highest position you've seen your club finish in ... we haven't finished above palace for 11 seasons and counting ...... In all honesty the scum being above us is the big issue for me but Roland has guaranteed that with his wank ownership
If you see an owner who you believe is destroying the club you love, it is hard to put money in his pocket. Yes, he may not lose any sleep over your money, but it does have a collective power in reminding him what a failure he is amongst other things. And this may or may not help him decide it isn't worth it in the end.
He never about us before he bought us, got a weekly or monthly report as all owners would from the CEO or MD. Looks at the bottom line every six months not the attendances. At least he has openly put his hands up in open forum and admitted mistakes were made, and I am sure even those who hate him the most he has bank rolled the club and has taken nothing out just kept it afloat as any owner of a football club would have done.
There Is no defence for what he has done. As a boycotter I have no regrets about that decision, nor would I criticise anyone that continues to go, but trying to rationalise the behaviour of that cu@t ... !!??
I won’t be buying a season ticket until I know they share the same feelings as I do for Charlton Athletic.
I can answer that for you. An Australian consortium will not share the same feelings as you do for Charlton Athletic. However, there are probably few football club owners in the world, that have the same feelings for the club as the fans. If that's the football fan's measurement, then few would buy a S/T anywhere.
Well then, what are the doing buying a third tier football club? What’s their motivation? 5 more year just like the last?
If you see an owner who you believe is destroying the club you love, it is hard to put money in his pocket. Yes, he may not lose any sleep over your money, but it does have a collective power in reminding him what a failure he is amongst other things. And this may or may not help him decide it isn't worth it in the end.
He never about us before he bought us, got a weekly or monthly report as all owners would from the CEO or MD. Looks at the bottom line every six months not the attendances. At least he has openly put his hands up in open forum and admitted mistakes were made, and I am sure even those who hate him the most he has bank rolled the club and has taken nothing out just kept it afloat as any owner of a football club would have done.
There Is no defence for what he has done. As a boycotter I have no regrets about that decision, nor would I criticise anyone that continues to go, but trying to rationalise the behaviour of that cu@t ... !!??
I agree - I think there will be no problem uniting fans going forwards. It isn't about fans who go and fans who don't. Fans that go don't go in support of Duchatelet. I think you will find it hard to find any sort of numbers amongst all fans that think Duchatelet did a good job and whilst people are entitled to their opinions, some opinions are ridiculous.
If/when it does happen I’m most looking forward to/hoping we can as a fan base put any differences we may have had over the time RD was here to one side and become one again. Don’t get me wrong, I know there has been a lot of bad blood between us over protests, Murray and a whole host of other things. Things have gotten personal and some have good reason to feel aggrieved. I just hope we can remember that the club had its best years under a stable setup and growing up very much as a child of Curbs, I felt the unity and strength of our fan base played a huge role in that.
I know we as a club have recovered from far worse, and I’ll admit I’m too young to remember the gut wrenching departure from the Valley and the hard, hard plight many of you fought so for to get us back to the Valley. I hope that that spirit comes cascading through in abundance when he’s gone and there’s no more division or animosity over those who were pro Roland, this forum, other forums, who was in the know or whatever. Just one fanbase, one club, one joy of following our boys home and away come rain or shine
You beat me to it Cabbles.
If WhenIwasLittleBoy or anyone else wants to start up all the disagreements of the past 5 years, then all they are doing is continuing the hurt and fractured fan base.
We ALL want Charlton to grow again and as a starting point I'd like our attendances to exceed Millwall's. If we are going to rise again, then no good can come of rehashing the same old discussions/disagreements.
I know I'm a fine one to talk, but let's not get suckered into it. Accept we have different points of view, but recognise that for the good of the club we love, we need to take a deep breath and start afresh.
If you see an owner who you believe is destroying the club you love, it is hard to put money in his pocket. Yes, he may not lose any sleep over your money, but it does have a collective power in reminding him what a failure he is amongst other things. And this may or may not help him decide it isn't worth it in the end.
He never about us before he bought us, got a weekly or monthly report as all owners would from the CEO or MD. Looks at the bottom line every six months not the attendances. At least he has openly put his hands up in open forum and admitted mistakes were made, and I am sure even those who hate him the most he has bank rolled the club and has taken nothing out just kept it afloat as any owner of a football club would have done.
There Is no defence for what he has done. As a boycotter I have no regrets about that decision, nor would I criticise anyone that continues to go, but trying to rationalise the behaviour of that cu@t ... !!??
That I understand, but there has been clubs ie Newcastle hated Shepherd, who did they get Ashley, bottom line is you support the team threw thick and thin, owners are players and managers they come and go, so are shit some are great others defy believe, but more importantly you stick by the team and club.
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Yet as Muttley said, with those good moments came a relegation, and nor did win promotion at any point so those seasons will slowly blur together as the years pass
The idiot appointed people who didn't know what they were doing like Miere and underpants guy and trusted them over people who did. I actually think Peeters was decent but he wasn't supported. Riga kept us up and was got rid of - probably because he wanted to do things his way and Powell was not willing to take the crap that Duchatelet demanded. He needed a yes man and when Luzon proved not to be that he found the worst manager in our history to do as he was told.
Then showing what a bunch of morons ran the club they decided they needed an English manager. No, what they needed was a good manager. They chose a manager who had been in the lower leagues for a long time but never got promoted, Why not appoint somebody at least who has shown they can get promoted. They did appoint somebody who had, and whilst he didn't have a glorious spell, at least I could see the reasoning. Bowyer was just the cheap option and we got lucky!
Throughout this, we had to put up with patronising comments from people who we knew were out of their depth. Duchatelet was a disaster and anybody who can't see that doesn't understand football.
Bowyer being up to the job was luck on Roland's part rather than shrewd judgment.
I returned the club I love every year for the Upbeats walk, also once to pay my respects to PC Palmer and once to rattle a bucket for Lyle Taylor and Tracey Leaburn and their Breastcancer awareness and hopefully I will cycle London to Amsterdam with Charlton Staff, former players and supporters to raise money for prostate cancer. But never once have felt the need to question supporters of these great club for not supporting and showing some sort of loyalty to the community work the trust does everyday. To me the whole ethic of this club was destroyed by this man and his hangers on, so much so the club started rebuilding bridges by sending emails and press releases under the guise of the community trust. I went to Belgium to see not if I could make a difference but to see and meet up with those that felt as I once did, had I not gone it would have been over. From then on I started watching the team on tv every week and over time found myself leaping from the chair again when we scored. If and when this guy leaves surely the the emphasis should be on rebuilding the club and it's fan base not on who stayed away and who continued to attend.
If you want to give him credit for doing the business equivalent of keeping up the minimum repayments on a credit card then that's up to you.
Obviously everyone's entitled to their own opinion and you're therefore perfectly entitled to slate Chris Powell and send a thank you card to Roland. In my opinion, you need your head examining.
and whilst that is happening Roland has given us another opportunity to equal and unless promoted this season create a new club record for ourselves of being in the third tier of English football for 3 seasons or more since we first left it in 1929 .
To me the boycotters are the hero's , everyone who refrained from spending , that twunt would not have left if our club was not losing a large some of money regularly for him , so every bit helps.
I took the easier option of brain washing my kids and still going .
It's saved me a small fortune in kids kits , matchday programmes , match sponsorship , Valley Gold etc but my Charlton moral compass is different to others .
There was no way that prick was getting dough from me whilst he fucked my club up and turned it in to a laughing stock , I mean we are so pathetic I get pity from palace fans ffs
Sooner he goes the better and I have thought that from very early on in his ownership but then I could see unlike others that this pricks experiment was only heading one way
An Australian consortium will not share the same feelings as you do for Charlton Athletic.
However, there are probably few football club owners in the world, that have the same feelings for the club as the fans.
If that's the football fan's measurement, then few would buy a S/T anywhere.
In all honesty the scum being above us is the big issue for me but Roland has guaranteed that with his wank ownership
What’s their motivation?
5 more year just like the last?
If WhenIwasLittleBoy or anyone else wants to start up all the disagreements of the past 5 years, then all they are doing is continuing the hurt and fractured fan base.
We ALL want Charlton to grow again and as a starting point I'd like our attendances to exceed Millwall's.
If we are going to rise again, then no good can come of rehashing the same old discussions/disagreements.
I know I'm a fine one to talk, but let's not get suckered into it.
Accept we have different points of view, but recognise that for the good of the club we love, we need to take a deep breath and start afresh.