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Jonny Williams keeps future options open

LouisMend
LouisMend Posts: 5,448
edited June 2023 in General Charlton
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  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,298
    Surely this is an April fools - I don’t think he is that great, anyone else different opinion?
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,047
    palarsehater said:
    Surely this is an April fools - I don’t think he is that great, anyone else different opinion?
    Nope, he hasn’t show enough to deserve a new deal, regardless of which division we’re in. Let’s hope he can inprove his performances in the remaining games!
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Provided he doesn't want a silly salary he is worth keeping.

    I haven't seen enough of him to think he is going to set the world on fire yet but  there have been sparks which look promising

    Remember this is probably as long a stint of regular first team games as he's had for a number of years - he needs a proper pre season.  Whether he can stay fit enough for this to materialise is another story
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,280
    He has the ability and adds something different to us we didn’t have before.

    Goals/assists have been too sparse so far but with the ability he has shown I feel that will change and think it would be very different if he had someone with speed (like Grant) in front of him.

    I would definitely be in favour of keeping him whichever division we were in.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    absolutely quality football player, way above league one, just needs to translate it into performances. I can see him becoming a frustrating player to watch in that respect.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,028
    Swisdom said:
    Provided he doesn't want a silly salary he is worth keeping.

    I haven't seen enough of him to think he is going to set the world on fire yet but  there have been sparks which look promising

    Remember this is probably as long a stint of regular first team games as he's had for a number of years - he needs a proper pre season.  Whether he can stay fit enough for this to materialise is another story
    Agreed. With a decent pre season behind him, he'd be worth keeping although i suspect if we're still in league one, he'll get better offers elsewhere.
  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,504
    To get an assist, you do need someone to convert the chance. He would've had one on Saturday if Taylor hadn't shot over an open goal. Williams is doing ok and the best may yet be to come.
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,118
    edited April 2019
    kentaddick said:
    absolutely quality football player, way above league one, just needs to translate it into performances. I can see him becoming a frustrating player to watch in that respect.
    If he's not performing at league one level, how is he way above it? 

    Above average, for sure, think he'd struggle in the champ.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    kentaddick said:
    absolutely quality football player, way above league one, just needs to translate it into performances. I can see him becoming a frustrating player to watch in that respect.
    If he's not performing at league one level, how is he way above it? 

    Above average, for sure, think he'd struggle in the champ.
    his ball control etc is far better than anyone we've got or anyone else in league one, he's just a, on another wavelength to other players, b, not match fit and c, lacking in a lot of confidence.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,028
    He's spent his entire career in a higher division than we're currently in plus has a few caps for Wales. If some people think he's not good enough for league one, then they're in for a huge shock when they see who'll be turning out for us if we're still in this division next season.
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  • Charltonparklane
    Charltonparklane Posts: 5,786
    If we haven't signed Bowyer and JJ on perm deals then I couldn't really care a less about players contracts at this stage. 
  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Posts: 7,632
    Very good player, but never looks like scoring, and rarely assists goals. Would def keep him though.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,047
    Nicholas said:
    Very good player, but never looks like scoring, and rarely assists goals. Would def keep him though.
    Why?
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,796
    se9addick said:
    Nicholas said:
    Very good player, but never looks like scoring, and rarely assists goals. Would def keep him though.
    Why?
    You could use his head as a mirror when you're shaving.
  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Posts: 7,632
    se9addick said:
    Nicholas said:
    Very good player, but never looks like scoring, and rarely assists goals. Would def keep him though.
    Why?
    Because with a bit of coaching he can add this to his game, especially in league 1. I think Bowyer needs to tell him to lay the ball off earlier sometimes rather than tying to do too much himself.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    edited April 2019
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    He's spent his entire career in a higher division than we're currently in plus has a few caps for Wales. If some people think he's not good enough for league one, then they're in for a huge shock when they see who'll be turning out for us WHEN we're still in this division next season.
    There's the realistic word.

    :sweat_smile:

  • SOTF
    SOTF Posts: 1,149
    He's very likeable and technically a really good player. Whenever he gets the ball it feels like he can make something happen, yet sadly, it never arrives.

    Hopefully that changes for when it really matters and we can all be playing at a higher level next season.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    edited April 2019
    Technically very decent, as shown with some of the passes and touches he makes. 

    Tactically, he slots into our side far less brilliantly. With a full pre season he should be able to overcome that. 
  • buckshee
    buckshee Posts: 7,867
    I think he’s more suited to playing in the championship and above, he tends to do things that you don’t get away with in league one. 
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,661
    Bit of a 'Ben Reeves' for me in that the hype led us to believe we were getting a league 1 Messi equivalent yet the end product has been largely conspicuous by its absence.
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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    LenGlover said:
    Bit of a 'Ben Reeves' for me in that the hype led us to believe we were getting a league 1 Messi equivalent yet the end product has been largely conspicuous by its absence.
    Agree with this. The media absolutely loves him. 

    Weirdly my first look at him was 2 weeks before he signed for us in this e-toro ad:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dntfk6gor8

    Hardly looks the player the media and many other sources made him out to be.
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,461
    Athletico Charlton said:
    He has the ability and adds something different to us we didn’t have before.

    Goals/assists have been too sparse so far but with the ability he has shown I feel that will change and think it would be very different if he had someone with speed (like Grant) in front of him.

    I would definitely be in favour of keeping him whichever division we were in.
    What does he add that we didn’t have before?
  • addick05
    addick05 Posts: 2,348
    Good footballer, but Fosu came on and created more in 10 minutes than Williams had done in the pervious 80.
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,118
    JaShea99 said:8
    Athletico Charlton said:
    He has the ability and adds something different to us we didn’t have before.

    Goals/assists have been too sparse so far but with the ability he has shown I feel that will change and think it would be very different if he had someone with speed (like Grant) in front of him.

    I would definitely be in favour of keeping him whichever division we were in.
    What does he add that we didn’t have before?
    An awesome beard?
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,118
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    He's spent his entire career in a higher division than we're currently in plus has a few caps for Wales. If some people think he's not good enough for league one, then they're in for a huge shock when they see who'll be turning out for us if we're still in this division next season.
    3 goals in 129 games, including 5 loans would suggest he's probably not good enough for the champ.

    I don't think anyone is saying he's not good enough for League One, just that he's not the best midfielder in the league, Imo, he's not even the best midfielder at Charlton.
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    Quality player who will only get better the more he plays and with a full pre-season behind him.

    The type of player that can get between the lines and hurt teams at Championship level, we don't have too many of them in the current squad. He also draws players out to him and that creates space for the rest of the team. He wins free kicks in dangerous areas. On Saturday there was a time when we broke away in the first half and he should've passed to Aribo, but decided to take them on and lost the ball. It is sometimes his downfall keeping hold of it for a little too long. But with a bit of guidance and coaching of when to release the ball, he will become a top player, so long as he is fit.

    Regarding his assists, the last two games played he laid one on the plate for Cullen of which Vetokele blocked on the line, and he laid one on a plate for Taylor which he blazed over the bar. It's not like he isn't getting in those positions and making chances. We just aren't clinical enough.
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,678
    A good footballer, but the fact he doesn't offer any goal threat is a massive hindrance. An attacking midfielder needs to be contributing 10+ goals a season! Obviously he signed in Jan so a return of 4/5 by the end of the season would be decent, but he hasn't even got a total of that in his career yet!
  • Oh_Yoni_Boy
    Oh_Yoni_Boy Posts: 1,762
    "Jonny Williams Keeps Future Options Open"

    Okay mate...
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,875
    Been slightly disappointed with him. He started really well in his first few games bit since then has been slightly anonymous

    Yes, I'd like to keep him as there's clearly a decent player there, if nothing else his recent performances won't exactly have had Championship clubs queuing up to sign him
  • thickandthin63
    thickandthin63 Posts: 2,957
    Cullen and Beilic are on loan and probably wont be here if we dont go up,Aribo may well not be here,we are not exactly in a position to turn him away if he wants to stay.
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