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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • superdulvertonred
    superdulvertonred Posts: 1,142
    We seem to be getting way in front of the actual situation, first lets beat Sunderland then hopefully get new owners then give new contracts to players and staff and invest in the team and then in the longer term maybe consider expanding The Valley. Although the sales for the semi and the final are impressive we need to ensure that these supporters are encouraged to stay and continue to support this wonderful club which has been a massive part of my life for over 50 years!
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,626
    Henry Irving said:
     Those  gardens are now houses.

    Knocking the west stand isn't really sensible.

    Regardless basing future league gates on one off Wembley turnouts is just silly.

    The home play off game and Wembley shows there is really a market if a prospective buyer wants to go for it.

    The existing west stand is a wasted opportunity. It could be a lot bigger if demand  ever did outgrow capacity and there is plenty of room to take it further back to accommodate more hospitality and catering on both match days and non match days.
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,626
    clb74 said:
    Blimey we were getting less than 9000 in the ground earlier in the season 12000 for the last 2 games of the season.
    We're now looking to do a ground to rival man utd 
    No. We are looking for an owner with ambition who wants a club with potential.
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    letthegoodtimesroll said:
    clb74 said:
    Blimey we were getting less than 9000 in the ground earlier in the season 12000 for the last 2 games of the season.
    We're now looking to do a ground to rival man utd 
    No. We are looking for an owner with ambition who wants a club with potential.
    Will be good to see the season ticket sales for next season whether we go up or are still in league 1
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    Airman Brown said:
    clb74 said:
    letthegoodtimesroll said:
    clb74 said:
    Blimey we were getting less than 9000 in the ground earlier in the season 12000 for the last 2 games of the season.
    We're now looking to do a ground to rival man utd 
    No. We are looking for an owner with ambition who wants a club with potential.
    Will be good to see the season ticket sales for next season whether we go up or are still in league 1
    Will be good to see the manager and the playing staff for next season first.
    I've pre booked goals down beckenham next season for the 5 a side
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,483
    letthegoodtimesroll said:
    Henry Irving said:
     Those  gardens are now houses.

    Knocking the west stand isn't really sensible.

    Regardless basing future league gates on one off Wembley turnouts is just silly.

    The home play off game and Wembley shows there is really a market if a prospective buyer wants to go for it.

    The existing west stand is a wasted opportunity. It could be a lot bigger if demand  ever did outgrow capacity and there is plenty of room to take it further back to accommodate more hospitality and catering on both match days and non match days.
    Not allowed to go any higher......plus the car park is already considered way too small for the stand to be built further into it......don’t forget you’d need considerable extra pedestrian area at the rear of the stand too.
    F’ing Mike Glikstein sold that piece of land where the row of houses were built.....a big big mistake.
    It’s already bursting at the seams as it is!
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,472
    Airman Brown said:
    clb74 said:
    letthegoodtimesroll said:
    clb74 said:
    Blimey we were getting less than 9000 in the ground earlier in the season 12000 for the last 2 games of the season.
    We're now looking to do a ground to rival man utd 
    No. We are looking for an owner with ambition who wants a club with potential.
    Will be good to see the season ticket sales for next season whether we go up or are still in league 1
    Will be good to see the manager and the playing staff for next season first.
    So much riding on this game. What will Roland do if we don't go up? I'm guessing Bowyer would leave and I think Roland would probably want to get shot of him as his stock is rising.
    Could we see Roland dipping into the bin again for another no mark Belgian Twonk manager?

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,236
    The new Royal Greenwich Stadium by the Thames Barrier will solve all the problems.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,745
    edited May 2019
    SoundAsa£ said:
    letthegoodtimesroll said:
    Henry Irving said:
     Those  gardens are now houses.

    Knocking the west stand isn't really sensible.

    Regardless basing future league gates on one off Wembley turnouts is just silly.

    The home play off game and Wembley shows there is really a market if a prospective buyer wants to go for it.

    The existing west stand is a wasted opportunity. It could be a lot bigger if demand  ever did outgrow capacity and there is plenty of room to take it further back to accommodate more hospitality and catering on both match days and non match days.
    Not allowed to go any higher......plus the car park is already considered way too small for the stand to be built further into it......don’t forget you’d need considerable extra pedestrian area at the rear of the stand too.
    F’ing Mike Glikstein sold that piece of land where the row of houses were built.....a big big mistake.
    It’s already bursting at the seams as it is!
    No, he didn't - assuming you mean Valley Grove. It was sold under Roger Alwen's chairmanship. I have never been able to substantiate it, but I was told a long while ago that the club made about £60k on it to cover wages, etc. It was bad business by 1998 when the club could sell car park spaces in the Premier League at inflated prices and would have liked to create a new entrance to avoid coaches going round the bend in Floyd Road, but the question at the time would have been "which player would you prefer us to sell as an alternative?". The land was reserved from 1992 as matchday car parking for residents, but they didn't use it so the council agreed to its development.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,483
    Airman Brown said:
    SoundAsa£ said:
    letthegoodtimesroll said:
    Henry Irving said:
     Those  gardens are now houses.

    Knocking the west stand isn't really sensible.

    Regardless basing future league gates on one off Wembley turnouts is just silly.

    The home play off game and Wembley shows there is really a market if a prospective buyer wants to go for it.

    The existing west stand is a wasted opportunity. It could be a lot bigger if demand  ever did outgrow capacity and there is plenty of room to take it further back to accommodate more hospitality and catering on both match days and non match days.
    Not allowed to go any higher......plus the car park is already considered way too small for the stand to be built further into it......don’t forget you’d need considerable extra pedestrian area at the rear of the stand too.
    F’ing Mike Glikstein sold that piece of land where the row of houses were built.....a big big mistake.
    It’s already bursting at the seams as it is!
    No, he didn't - assuming you mean Valley Grove. It was sold under Roger Alwen's chairmanship. I have never been able to substantiate it, but I was told a long while ago that the club made about £60k on it to cover wages, etc.
    Well I am sure Glikstein had something to do with that piece of land and selling it......or maybe trying to sell it and there being a huge shindig about it......can anyone clear that up.
    Bow to your better knowledge and thanks for correcting me.


  • HardyAddick
    HardyAddick Posts: 1,638
    I did have meetings with Roger Alwen about a deal on Valley Grove. The finances were dire at the time. I had Mowlems the large contractor lined up who would pay money up front and a profit share for the land - more than £60k - but then Richard Collins took over and did it his way. Bad deal but that’s life. Still have the papers somewhere.
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,199
    People are seriously having a discussion about how to expand the ground? Bloody hell. 
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,483
    Uboat said:
    People are seriously having a discussion about how to expand the ground? Bloody hell. 
    This ain’t a joke Uboat.....I am wound up like a watch spring and nervous as hell....anything and all things Charlton have consumed every waking hour since Friday night!
    I feel at home here....as daft as that sounds.
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,199
    edited May 2019
    Redrobo said:
    Driving this morning listening to Jim White and he said that there was good news coming re sale of Charlton, acknowledged that he had been there before but news was real.
    He's going to end up like those lads who are always announcing the end of the world then look stupid. 
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,157
    SoundAsa£ said:
    northstandsteve said:
    Lol at Prague calling NLA Billybigbollox
    Think it was said a bit tongue in cheek to be honest.
    Of course it was, but Steve has his own particular brand of "humour". NLA knows that I greatly admire how he built a successful business, and i dont believe he's bothered if I poke fun at his new status, any more than it bothers me if he meets me in the lounge Sunday and calls pots and kettles. 
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Uboat said:
    Redrobo said:
    Driving this morning listening to Jim White and he said that there was good news coming re sale of Charlton, acknowledged that he had been there before but news was real.
    He's going to end up like those lads who are always announcing the end of the world then look stupid. 
    I may be hoping against hope, but I actually believe something is happening this time.

    However, I am going to forget all about it until Monday.

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  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    HardyAddick said:
    I did have meetings with Roger Alwen about a deal on Valley Grove. The finances were dire at the time. I had Mowlems the large contractor lined up who would pay money up front and a profit share for the land - more than £60k - but then Richard Collins took over and did it his way. Bad deal but that’s life. Still have the papers somewhere.
    Museum alert @Henry Irving
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,236
    JamesSeed said:
    HardyAddick said:
    I did have meetings with Roger Alwen about a deal on Valley Grove. The finances were dire at the time. I had Mowlems the large contractor lined up who would pay money up front and a profit share for the land - more than £60k - but then Richard Collins took over and did it his way. Bad deal but that’s life. Still have the papers somewhere.
    Museum alert @Henry Irving
    Yep, museum item there @HardyAddick
  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469
    Uboat said:
    Redrobo said:
    Driving this morning listening to Jim White and he said that there was good news coming re sale of Charlton, acknowledged that he had been there before but news was real.
    He's going to end up like those lads who are always announcing the end of the world then look stupid. 

    They will be right one day
  • HardyAddick
    HardyAddick Posts: 1,638
    edited May 2019
    Henry Irving said:
    JamesSeed said:
    HardyAddick said:
    I did have meetings with Roger Alwen about a deal on Valley Grove. The finances were dire at the time. I had Mowlems the large contractor lined up who would pay money up front and a profit share for the land - more than £60k - but then Richard Collins took over and did it his way. Bad deal but that’s life. Still have the papers somewhere.
    Museum alert @Henry Irving
    Yep, museum item there @HardyAddick
    Will check archives to see what’s left.  Have moved company and offices since. @Henry Irving
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,236
    HardyAddick said:
    Henry Irving said:
    JamesSeed said:
    HardyAddick said:
    I did have meetings with Roger Alwen about a deal on Valley Grove. The finances were dire at the time. I had Mowlems the large contractor lined up who would pay money up front and a profit share for the land - more than £60k - but then Richard Collins took over and did it his way. Bad deal but that’s life. Still have the papers somewhere.
    Museum alert @Henry Irving
    Yep, museum item there @HardyAddick
    Will check archives to see what’s left.  Have moved company and offices since. @Henry Irving
    Thanks @HardyAddick
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,626
    edited May 2019
    Uboat said:
    People are seriously having a discussion about how to expand the ground? Bloody hell. 
    It’s all about the potential of the club for a prospective buyer. A few pages back on this thread there was a comment that somebody walked away because charlton wasn’t big enough. We’ve now proved there is a potential fan base bigger than the grounds capacity so the next question for a prospective buyer is can the grounds capacity be increased.
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,455
    letthegoodtimesroll said:
    Uboat said:
    People are seriously having a discussion about how to expand the ground? Bloody hell. 
    It’s all about the potential of the club for a prospective buyer. A few pages back on this thread there was a comment that somebody walked away because charlton wasn’t big enough. We’ve now proved there is a potential fan base bigger than the grounds capacity so the next question for a prospective buyer is can the grounds capacity be increased.
    Filling the ground for a single game isn't really proof of anything? 
  • Mametz
    Mametz Posts: 1,254
    edited May 2019
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    letthegoodtimesroll said:
    Uboat said:
    People are seriously having a discussion about how to expand the ground? Bloody hell. 
    It’s all about the potential of the club for a prospective buyer. A few pages back on this thread there was a comment that somebody walked away because charlton wasn’t big enough. We’ve now proved there is a potential fan base bigger than the grounds capacity so the next question for a prospective buyer is can the grounds capacity be increased.
    Filling the ground for a single game isn't really proof of anything? 
    If a potential buyer walked away because Charlton weren’t big enough then it meant that that buyer and/or their advisors hadn’t bothered to do even the most basic research regarding the club and its facilities before declaring any intent towards the club.The size of the ground and average attendances for years in the different divisions are readily available within a minute of gazing at the Internet. This demonstrates Roland type levels of due diligence! We dodged another bullet there.

    It is gratifying that we have sold so many tickets for this game but it is not unusual for a team to sell more tickets for a one-off final at Wembley than their current ground capacity. Newport are doing it tomorrow and most of their followers tomorrow have much further to travel than most of ours on Sunday.
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    1625, Kent & Essex suffer terrible flooding as the largest ever tidal wave comes up the Thames.
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,199
    edited May 2019
    happyvalley said:
    1625, Kent & Essex suffer terrible flooding as the largest ever tidal wave comes up the Thames.
    Charles I became king of England. He made a series of poor decisions, made a fool of himself, entirely lost the trust of the people  and ended up going to war with them, losing his head af a result. 
    Hi Roland!
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