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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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You're having a mare happy!happyvalley said:1623, the first use of a fire engine in England after a fire at London Bridge.5 -
I've never been so busy, I'll give up when it happens.Curb_It said:
You're having a mare happy!happyvalley said:1623, the first use of a fire engine in England after a fire at London Bridge.4 -
Ok. I’ve already pointed out that we outsold Sunderland.GlassHalfFull said:
I like the sound of this. Any chance you can get some feedback on what the Aussies thought of the occasion and in particular the fans' performance?JamesSeed said:
Let’s hope something’s happened in the last few weeks or months that would account for why Muir wanted, or even needed, to be there with Murphy. Gerard on his own would be encouraging, but much more so with Muir in attendance. I wouldn’t think he would have come if they were still scrabbling around for partners etc.Airman Brown said:
Absolutely certain that Muir’s interest has continued. The question has been whether there is a deal he can be part of, given he hasn’t wanted to buy it all.JamesSeed said:
I was told they were, but hospitality or Royal Box doesn't matter; the fact is they've come an awfully long way to see a football match. Muir in particular wouldn't do that unless something was afoot, you'd think.Airman Brown said:
They weren’t in the royal box. There are multiple claims they were in hospitality, including a good friend of mine who was in there and is adamant they had a table of five, Muir was present, and that Murray went and spoke to them. He might be wrong but that’s what he believes he saw.JamesSeed said:
Olly and George weren’t aware that GM and AM were in the Royal Box, and I doubt they were keeping anything under their hat (s) as of half an hour after the match. But you never know ;-)Cafc43v3r said:Based on nothing other than a hunch, I think it's a done deal. Maybe even this week.
Bowyer said something that made me think it has been, as did the tone of some of the comms from the club. It sounds like a badly kept secret.
Personally I'd now rather someone else bought the club (not Ashley), because it'd be a lot less stressful ;-)0 -
Mate, I think the consensus is that it's Roland f*ecking around. But we'll find out eventually.ShootersHillGuru said:If the Aussies are still interested then it has to happen soon. They have been sniffing for two fecking years. If they aren’t ready to rock after what happened on Sunday then I don’t see them ever being ready.1 -
How right you are.ShootersHillGuru said:If the Aussies are still interested then it has to happen soon. They have been sniffing for two fecking years. If they aren’t ready to rock after what happened on Sunday then I don’t see them ever being ready.1 -
Can I just say what a measured, intelligent chap Lyle comes across as?
The guy is class - on and off the pitch.
And he's one of our own
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Millwall set fire to Portsmouth carriage on its way to Charlton.happyvalley said:1623, the first use of a fire engine in England after a fire at London Bridge.23 -
Same old arguments then. Best I stay off this thread ;-)SoundAsa£ said:
How right you are.ShootersHillGuru said:If the Aussies are still interested then it has to happen soon. They have been sniffing for two fecking years. If they aren’t ready to rock after what happened on Sunday then I don’t see them ever being ready.0 -
You’re having a ‘mare feller....happyvalley said:1623, the first use of a fire engine in England after a fire at London Bridge.
im struggling to work out where the top of each page is these days...
Edit: dammit, we even used the same words though...2 -
We won a play off final Sunday but that's about it reallyDazzler21 said:I know it's unlikely but I have like 400 unread posts... Anything newsworthy?
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Ahh fair enough, sorry mis-read that.JamesSeed said:
If you read my post ‘I said I hope something has happened in the past few weeks or months’, not that have to wait a few months.J BLOCK said:
No, we cannot wait a "few months" we need this sorted now, we need players and manager contracts sorted now. There is literally no time to lose if we want a successful season next year.JamesSeed said:
Let’s hope something’s happened in the last few weeks or months that would account for why Muir wanted, or even needed, to be there with Murphy. Gerard on his own would be encouraging, but much more so with Muir in attendance. I wouldn’t think he would have come if they were still scrabbling around for partners etc.Airman Brown said:
Absolutely certain that Muir’s interest has continued. The question has been whether there is a deal he can be part of, given he hasn’t wanted to buy it all.JamesSeed said:
I was told they were, but hospitality or Royal Box doesn't matter; the fact is they've come an awfully long way to see a football match. Muir in particular wouldn't do that unless something was afoot, you'd think.Airman Brown said:
They weren’t in the royal box. There are multiple claims they were in hospitality, including a good friend of mine who was in there and is adamant they had a table of five, Muir was present, and that Murray went and spoke to them. He might be wrong but that’s what he believes he saw.JamesSeed said:
Olly and George weren’t aware that GM and AM were in the Royal Box, and I doubt they were keeping anything under their hat (s) as of half an hour after the match. But you never know ;-)Cafc43v3r said:Based on nothing other than a hunch, I think it's a done deal. Maybe even this week.
Bowyer said something that made me think it has been, as did the tone of some of the comms from the club. It sounds like a badly kept secret.
Personally I'd now rather someone else bought the club (not Ashley), because it'd be a lot less stressful ;-)
It needs to be done ASAP, but I don’t think Roland cares.1 -
Duchatelet needs to take a long hard look at this. He needs to act quickly and stop being a F***wit.
Fair enough he doesn’t want to spend money. But to gets loans in of any quality he 100% needs Bowyer and Jacko at the helm.
Does he think the likes of Beliek and Purrington would have signed,and above all flourished, under one of his Belgian ‘no Mark’ managers?
Clubs up and down the land will be looking to get their youngsters out to us and under the current management and coaching staffs guidance.
Roland. For once in your life. Go against the grain. Make the right decision.10 -
Who were the Arabs looking to buy a London Championship club a few weeks ago? Anyone got their number0
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I just can't see it being the aussies - I'm still not convinced they aren't an RD construct for negotiating purposes - I'm picturing Mike Ashley negotiating for our club right now and to be honest, I'd take that. It all makes sense to me whereas the Aussie thing never has. He won't be interested in languishing round in league 1 but now we are up, he will go for it and hence the trigger to offload Newcastle. He may not be everyone's cup of tea and he may not be a stinking rich arab but he's rich enough for us not to have to worry about going bankrupt, is high profile enough to want to have a real go at being successful and we are the biggest London club that he is likely to get his hands on - barring West Ham, but I can only see them going one way with that soulless bowl of theirs so no value there to be unearthed.
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The Aussies aren’t an RD invention, but I agree I’d be surprised if Murphy was involved now. Don’t rule out Muir though.DOUCHER said:I just can't see it being the aussies - I'm still not convinced they aren't an RD construct for negotiating purposes - I'm picturing Mike Ashley negotiating for our club right now and to be honest, I'd take that. It all makes sense to me whereas the Aussie thing never has. He won't be interested in languishing round in league 1 but now we are up, he will go for it and hence the trigger to offload Newcastle. He may not be everyone's cup of tea and he may not be a stinking rich arab but he's rich enough for us not to have to worry about going bankrupt, is high profile enough to want to have a real go at being successful and we are the biggest London club that he is likely to get his hands on - barring West Ham, but I can only see them going one way with that soulless bowl of theirs so no value there to be unearthed.4 -
Airman Brown said:
The Aussies aren’t an RD invention, but I agree I’d be surprised if Murphy was involved now. Don’t rule out Muir though.DOUCHER said:I just can't see it being the aussies - I'm still not convinced they aren't an RD construct for negotiating purposes - I'm picturing Mike Ashley negotiating for our club right now and to be honest, I'd take that. It all makes sense to me whereas the Aussie thing never has. He won't be interested in languishing round in league 1 but now we are up, he will go for it and hence the trigger to offload Newcastle. He may not be everyone's cup of tea and he may not be a stinking rich arab but he's rich enough for us not to have to worry about going bankrupt, is high profile enough to want to have a real go at being successful and we are the biggest London club that he is likely to get his hands on - barring West Ham, but I can only see them going one way with that soulless bowl of theirs so no value there to be unearthed.
I don't doubt they exist but as a front that will never follow through - maybe, maybe not but lets be honest Airman, you can't know for sure either.0 -
Ply him with champagne, whisky, Hurlimans lager and Jägermeister shots. Then ask him nicely before he passes out. He won’t remember telling you. You could then PM me and everything is cushty. 😀JamesSeed said:
He’s made a vow of silence re all takeover related matters. I think he got grief over spilling the beans to me all those months ago.Solidgone said:
@JamesSeed why not just give him a call and asked what’s happening. I’m sure you could invite him round for dinner or a cuppa?JamesSeed said:
Let’s hope something’s happened in the last few weeks or months that would account for why Muir wanted, or even needed, to be there with Murphy. Gerard on his own would be encouraging, but much more so with Muir in attendance. I wouldn’t think he would have come if they were still scrabbling around for partners etc.Airman Brown said:
Absolutely certain that Muir’s interest has continued. The question has been whether there is a deal he can be part of, given he hasn’t wanted to buy it all.JamesSeed said:
I was told they were, but hospitality or Royal Box doesn't matter; the fact is they've come an awfully long way to see a football match. Muir in particular wouldn't do that unless something was afoot, you'd think.Airman Brown said:
They weren’t in the royal box. There are multiple claims they were in hospitality, including a good friend of mine who was in there and is adamant they had a table of five, Muir was present, and that Murray went and spoke to them. He might be wrong but that’s what he believes he saw.JamesSeed said:
Olly and George weren’t aware that GM and AM were in the Royal Box, and I doubt they were keeping anything under their hat (s) as of half an hour after the match. But you never know ;-)Cafc43v3r said:Based on nothing other than a hunch, I think it's a done deal. Maybe even this week.
Bowyer said something that made me think it has been, as did the tone of some of the comms from the club. It sounds like a badly kept secret.
Personally I'd now rather someone else bought the club (not Ashley), because it'd be a lot less stressful ;-)2 -
Muir and who?.Dont we need a new owner or owners worth billions? Instead of say £500m.0
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You might be right. Explains why Bowyer seemed not a all worried about his contract after the win and also why the oddly professional statement by RD’s ghost writer. This is exactly what just happened at Newcastle. Benitez out of contract... no panic even though season was over.Rudders22 said:Based on nothing but a gut feeling, I have a feeling in my water that the takeover is about to go through. On Sunday there was a message that was nothing like the what the RAT comes out with in congratulating Bowyer, the team and fans etc and about being back where we belong. That was so unlike Roland and not in broken English. Who wrote that on his behalf as he hates us fans? Was that Murray's doing and Roland just asked them to get on with it.. Then Murray comes out the woodwork with "This is hopefully Roland's last game but remember he has put a lot of money in to the club to keep it going". Just before the play off semi final and final Bowyer himself said he was certain that he would sign the contract but needed things ironing out? I also wonder if Bows is being economical with the truth. He says that he spoke to Roland leading up to the final and wishing him good luck. However, now says that he has not heard from him about a contract (which he received in email form). I can't help think that with us winning promotion that is the turning point in the club and a deal can now be struck to purchase the club. This is why nothing has been done or said about any contracts, players, Manager etc is because Roland has now finished with the club. The contracts run out on 30th June? Why would Roland get involved in contracts if he is not going to be here any longer? Maybe it is a case that new owners will sit with Bows and co between now and when takeover goes through and discuss budgets for next season etc. Maybe I am being over optimistic but feel the Aussies would not have paid over the odds for a league one club but pay a for the same price (whatever) they agreed with RD over a year ago.1 -
I do know for sure that Muir is willing to put his money in but not enough to buy or fund the club on his own.DOUCHER said:Airman Brown said:
The Aussies aren’t an RD invention, but I agree I’d be surprised if Murphy was involved now. Don’t rule out Muir though.DOUCHER said:I just can't see it being the aussies - I'm still not convinced they aren't an RD construct for negotiating purposes - I'm picturing Mike Ashley negotiating for our club right now and to be honest, I'd take that. It all makes sense to me whereas the Aussie thing never has. He won't be interested in languishing round in league 1 but now we are up, he will go for it and hence the trigger to offload Newcastle. He may not be everyone's cup of tea and he may not be a stinking rich arab but he's rich enough for us not to have to worry about going bankrupt, is high profile enough to want to have a real go at being successful and we are the biggest London club that he is likely to get his hands on - barring West Ham, but I can only see them going one way with that soulless bowl of theirs so no value there to be unearthed.
I don't doubt they exist but as a front that will never follow through - maybe, maybe not but lets be honest Airman, you can't know for sure either.0 -
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Who were the two Middle Eastern gentlemen sitting with Curbs? I saw it briefly on the big screen as the camera panned around at the final whistle during the celebrations1
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I’d suggest you can’t know that for sure but let’s leave it there - got a promotion to bask inAirman Brown said:
I do know for sure that Muir is willing to put his money in but not enough to buy or fund the club on his own.DOUCHER said:Airman Brown said:
The Aussies aren’t an RD invention, but I agree I’d be surprised if Murphy was involved now. Don’t rule out Muir though.DOUCHER said:I just can't see it being the aussies - I'm still not convinced they aren't an RD construct for negotiating purposes - I'm picturing Mike Ashley negotiating for our club right now and to be honest, I'd take that. It all makes sense to me whereas the Aussie thing never has. He won't be interested in languishing round in league 1 but now we are up, he will go for it and hence the trigger to offload Newcastle. He may not be everyone's cup of tea and he may not be a stinking rich arab but he's rich enough for us not to have to worry about going bankrupt, is high profile enough to want to have a real go at being successful and we are the biggest London club that he is likely to get his hands on - barring West Ham, but I can only see them going one way with that soulless bowl of theirs so no value there to be unearthed.
I don't doubt they exist but as a front that will never follow through - maybe, maybe not but lets be honest Airman, you can't know for sure either.0 -
_MrDick said:Who were the two Middle Eastern gentlemen sitting with Curbs? I saw it briefly on the big screen as the camera panned around at the final whistle during the celebrations
Wallace and Gromit0 -
Pretty sure it’s always been Murphy behind the ‘takeover’, and I suspect it still is. He’s the one who did all the DD, and discovered the historic ownership issues etc, spending (in our terms) vast sums in the process.Airman Brown said:
The Aussies aren’t an RD invention, but I agree I’d be surprised if Murphy was involved now. Don’t rule out Muir though.DOUCHER said:I just can't see it being the aussies - I'm still not convinced they aren't an RD construct for negotiating purposes - I'm picturing Mike Ashley negotiating for our club right now and to be honest, I'd take that. It all makes sense to me whereas the Aussie thing never has. He won't be interested in languishing round in league 1 but now we are up, he will go for it and hence the trigger to offload Newcastle. He may not be everyone's cup of tea and he may not be a stinking rich arab but he's rich enough for us not to have to worry about going bankrupt, is high profile enough to want to have a real go at being successful and we are the biggest London club that he is likely to get his hands on - barring West Ham, but I can only see them going one way with that soulless bowl of theirs so no value there to be unearthed.
If Muir was at the final too, it was for a reason, I would think. Murphy may not be investing though. He’s certainly nowhere near as rich as Muir.
Also, he was going to be CEO, but when it didn’t happen he missed the window when he could have moved the family over from Oz, with housing and schooling having almost been sorted last year. Perhaps that window will open again at the end of this school year?
As I said yesterday, I just hope whoever buys the club completes the deal quickly, as I’m sure they would want to. It’s down to Roland now I suspect, and that could yet prove to be the stumbling block.7 -
Ideally. But imagine if some Qataris were watching the match on TV and thought ‘let’s buy this club’. They’d still presumably have to do DD, and deal with Roland, so can you see that happening over the next 8-10 weeks?Valley27000 said:Muir and who?.Dont we need a new owner or owners worth billions? Instead of say £500m.1 -
What message was this?Rudders22 said:Based on nothing but a gut feeling, I have a feeling in my water that the takeover is about to go through. On Sunday there was a message that was nothing like the what the RAT comes out with in congratulating Bowyer, the team and fans etc and about being back where we belong. That was so unlike Roland and not in broken English. Who wrote that on his behalf as he hates us fans? Was that Murray's doing and Roland just asked them to get on with it.. Then Murray comes out the woodwork with "This is hopefully Roland's last game but remember he has put a lot of money in to the club to keep it going". Just before the play off semi final and final Bowyer himself said he was certain that he would sign the contract but needed things ironing out? I also wonder if Bows is being economical with the truth. He says that he spoke to Roland leading up to the final and wishing him good luck. However, now says that he has not heard from him about a contract (which he received in email form). I can't help think that with us winning promotion that is the turning point in the club and a deal can now be struck to purchase the club. This is why nothing has been done or said about any contracts, players, Manager etc is because Roland has now finished with the club. The contracts run out on 30th June? Why would Roland get involved in contracts if he is not going to be here any longer? Maybe it is a case that new owners will sit with Bows and co between now and when takeover goes through and discuss budgets for next season etc. Maybe I am being over optimistic but feel the Aussies would not have paid over the odds for a league one club but pay a for the same price (whatever) they agreed with RD over a year ago.0 -
All true but don’t assume they are attached at the hip. Muir without Murphy is quite possible.JamesSeed said:
Pretty sure it’s always been Murphy behind the ‘takeover’, and I suspect it still is. He’s the one who did all the DD, and discovered the historic ownership issues etc, spending (in our terms) vast sums in the process.Airman Brown said:
The Aussies aren’t an RD invention, but I agree I’d be surprised if Murphy was involved now. Don’t rule out Muir though.DOUCHER said:I just can't see it being the aussies - I'm still not convinced they aren't an RD construct for negotiating purposes - I'm picturing Mike Ashley negotiating for our club right now and to be honest, I'd take that. It all makes sense to me whereas the Aussie thing never has. He won't be interested in languishing round in league 1 but now we are up, he will go for it and hence the trigger to offload Newcastle. He may not be everyone's cup of tea and he may not be a stinking rich arab but he's rich enough for us not to have to worry about going bankrupt, is high profile enough to want to have a real go at being successful and we are the biggest London club that he is likely to get his hands on - barring West Ham, but I can only see them going one way with that soulless bowl of theirs so no value there to be unearthed.
If Muir was at the final too, it was for a reason, I would think. Murphy may not be investing though. He’s certainly nowhere near as rich as Muir.
Also, he was going to be CEO, but when it didn’t happen he missed the window when he could have moved the family over from Oz, with housing and schooling having almost been sorted last year. Perhaps that window will open again at the end of this school year?
As I said yesterday, I just hope whoever buys the club completes the deal quickly, as I’m sure they would want to. It’s down to Roland now I suspect, and that could yet prove to be the stumbling block.0 -
Muir is mega rich by any standard. To think he’s playing games for the benefit of Roland Duchatelet or to piss a few thousand Charlton fans off is laughable. He has been and if he was at Wembley still is interested. Strange that it’s taken two years to reach god only knows what point but interested nevertheless.DOUCHER said:Airman Brown said:
The Aussies aren’t an RD invention, but I agree I’d be surprised if Murphy was involved now. Don’t rule out Muir though.DOUCHER said:I just can't see it being the aussies - I'm still not convinced they aren't an RD construct for negotiating purposes - I'm picturing Mike Ashley negotiating for our club right now and to be honest, I'd take that. It all makes sense to me whereas the Aussie thing never has. He won't be interested in languishing round in league 1 but now we are up, he will go for it and hence the trigger to offload Newcastle. He may not be everyone's cup of tea and he may not be a stinking rich arab but he's rich enough for us not to have to worry about going bankrupt, is high profile enough to want to have a real go at being successful and we are the biggest London club that he is likely to get his hands on - barring West Ham, but I can only see them going one way with that soulless bowl of theirs so no value there to be unearthed.
I don't doubt they exist but as a front that will never follow through - maybe, maybe not but lets be honest Airman, you can't know for sure either.13 -
Just hope it happens have missed going for two years started watching in 1954
but will not give you know who a penny.6 -
Ah Hurlimans, that takes me back!! I remember being plied with that one afternoon as a young 19 year old in what was The Golden Ball pub, just outside Ashford! I was trying to be Billy Big Balls after only being in the RAF for a few months at the time.
Solidgone said:
Ply him with champagne, whisky, Hurlimans lager and Jägermeister shots. Then ask him nicely before he passes out. He won’t remember telling you. You could then PM me and everything is cushty. 😀JamesSeed said:
He’s made a vow of silence re all takeover related matters. I think he got grief over spilling the beans to me all those months ago.Solidgone said:
@JamesSeed why not just give him a call and asked what’s happening. I’m sure you could invite him round for dinner or a cuppa?JamesSeed said:
Let’s hope something’s happened in the last few weeks or months that would account for why Muir wanted, or even needed, to be there with Murphy. Gerard on his own would be encouraging, but much more so with Muir in attendance. I wouldn’t think he would have come if they were still scrabbling around for partners etc.Airman Brown said:
Absolutely certain that Muir’s interest has continued. The question has been whether there is a deal he can be part of, given he hasn’t wanted to buy it all.JamesSeed said:
I was told they were, but hospitality or Royal Box doesn't matter; the fact is they've come an awfully long way to see a football match. Muir in particular wouldn't do that unless something was afoot, you'd think.Airman Brown said:
They weren’t in the royal box. There are multiple claims they were in hospitality, including a good friend of mine who was in there and is adamant they had a table of five, Muir was present, and that Murray went and spoke to them. He might be wrong but that’s what he believes he saw.JamesSeed said:
Olly and George weren’t aware that GM and AM were in the Royal Box, and I doubt they were keeping anything under their hat (s) as of half an hour after the match. But you never know ;-)Cafc43v3r said:Based on nothing other than a hunch, I think it's a done deal. Maybe even this week.
Bowyer said something that made me think it has been, as did the tone of some of the comms from the club. It sounds like a badly kept secret.
Personally I'd now rather someone else bought the club (not Ashley), because it'd be a lot less stressful ;-)
I recall falling off the bar stool and just being unable to move or get up! My brother-in-law looked down at me, simply laughed and said "what you doing down there Jonny Boy"? Never touched the stuff since!! 3
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