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Congratulations Ademola Lookman

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  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 3,864
    Cawley needs to change that tweet. CAFC doesn't get a cut. Tightfisted Roland does. In his own words on the lines of "part of the lookman deal is going to the developed sparows lane training ground". and we all know where that went. 
  • Viewfinder
    Viewfinder Posts: 4,911
    edited July 2019
    I watched all of Lookman's home games for us.  When his tricks didn't work - it was about 50/50, with the pirouette, the cute step-over - he would pass directly to the opposition.  From which they would advance - and score.

    Perhaps RB Leipzig have a better defence than ours.  Which was managed by weak men, and coached by Jackson.

    Since Duchatelet no longer invests in us, it hardly matters if we miss out on sell-on cuts or transfer fees, as with Konsa and Aribo.  Who cares?  It's his loss.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,480
    I watched all of Lookman's home games for us.  When his tricks didn't work - it was about 50/50, with the pirouette, the cute step-over - he would pass directly to the opposition.  From which they would advance - and score.

    Perhaps RB Leipzig have a better defence than ours.  Which was managed by weak men, and coached by Jackson.

    Since Duchatelet no longer invests in us, it hardly matters if we miss out on sell-on cuts or transfer fees, as with Konsa and Aribo.  Who cares?  It's his loss.
    Fishing as usual Viewfinder.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    I watched all of Lookman's home games for us.  When his tricks didn't work - it was about 50/50, with the pirouette, the cute step-over - he would pass directly to the opposition.  From which they would advance - and score.

    Perhaps RB Leipzig have a better defence than ours.  Which was managed by weak men, and coached by Jackson.

    Since Duchatelet no longer invests in us, it hardly matters if we miss out on sell-on cuts or transfer fees, as with Konsa and Aribo.  Who cares?  It's his loss.
    Did JJ shag your missus?
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,035
    se9addick said:
    So with Lookman + Konsa’s moves this summer, plus what Gomez is likely with now we are talking about three players collectively valued at around £100M, that’s pretty incredible work by our academy. 
    Our role in Lookman is pretty small really. Signed from Waterloo aged 16 then sold 3 years later for a decent fee

    By contrast the fees for Konsa and Gomez were much smaller AND we had them from a younger age, so the "expense" of developing them was much higher
    Whatever, I’m claiming him!
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,979
    Addickted said:
    I watched all of Lookman's home games for us.  When his tricks didn't work - it was about 50/50, with the pirouette, the cute step-over - he would pass directly to the opposition.  From which they would advance - and score.

    Perhaps RB Leipzig have a better defence than ours.  Which was managed by weak men, and coached by Jackson.

    Since Duchatelet no longer invests in us, it hardly matters if we miss out on sell-on cuts or transfer fees, as with Konsa and Aribo.  Who cares?  It's his loss.
    Did JJ shag your missus?
    As if he’s got a missus
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,836
    Swisdom said:
    I spoke to the delightful Ms Meire when we sold Ademola and she said she deliberately inflated the price because she knew "the owners at Everton were both very wealthy and very stupid."

    Sincerely hoping for a good sell-on too


    Christ. A touch of the "pot", "kettle" going on there.
  • thewolfboy
    thewolfboy Posts: 2,927
    Lookie is my favourite ex Charlton player (now Yann has retired). I wish him well at RBL.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    Breaking News - it’s been revealed that when Lookman joined Everton Roland agreed to a clause whereby if Everton sold him for less than 25m Charlton would make up the difference.
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  • Vincenzo
    Vincenzo Posts: 2,911
    I watched all of Lookman's home games for us.  When his tricks didn't work - it was about 50/50, with the pirouette, the cute step-over - he would pass directly to the opposition.  From which they would advance - and score.

    Perhaps RB Leipzig have a better defence than ours.  Which was managed by weak men, and coached by Jackson.

    Since Duchatelet no longer invests in us, it hardly matters if we miss out on sell-on cuts or transfer fees, as with Konsa and Aribo.  Who cares?  It's his loss.
    Weird. I remember the goals. But whatever floats your boat.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited July 2019
    I watched all of Lookman's home games for us.  When his tricks didn't work - it was about 50/50, with the pirouette, the cute step-over - he would pass directly to the opposition.  From which they would advance - and score.

    Perhaps RB Leipzig have a better defence than ours.  Which was managed by weak men, and coached by Jackson.

    Since Duchatelet no longer invests in us, it hardly matters if we miss out on sell-on cuts or transfer fees, as with Konsa and Aribo.  Who cares?  It's his loss.
    Was our defence being coached by Jackson in the seasons Lookman was here? I am pretty sure he was not. 

    I remember the 12 goals and 3 assists in 49 appearances at the age of seventeen or eighteen. 

    I also remember him going to a new league in a new country and scoring 5, assisting 4 in 11 games. 

    When he's played for Everton he has scored 4 and assisted 2 in 48 games. It's only been for them that he's seemed to struggle and that has to be either mismanagement or tougher defences in the Premier League, but he's done it in Germany, where their defences are set up similarly. Which leaves just mismanagement...
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    I watched all of Lookman's home games for us.  When his tricks didn't work - it was about 50/50, with the pirouette, the cute step-over - he would pass directly to the opposition.  From which they would advance - and score.

    Perhaps RB Leipzig have a better defence than ours.  Which was managed by weak men, and coached by Jackson.

    Since Duchatelet no longer invests in us, it hardly matters if we miss out on sell-on cuts or transfer fees, as with Konsa and Aribo.  Who cares?  It's his loss.
    Over £30m in transfer fees for a 21 year old would tend to suggest you have rocks in your head and and very wrong.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    Dazzler21 said:
    I watched all of Lookman's home games for us.  When his tricks didn't work - it was about 50/50, with the pirouette, the cute step-over - he would pass directly to the opposition.  From which they would advance - and score.

    Perhaps RB Leipzig have a better defence than ours.  Which was managed by weak men, and coached by Jackson.

    Since Duchatelet no longer invests in us, it hardly matters if we miss out on sell-on cuts or transfer fees, as with Konsa and Aribo.  Who cares?  It's his loss.
    Was our defence being coached by Jackson in the seasons Lookman was here? I am pretty sure he was not. 

    I remember the 12 goals and 3 assists in 49 appearances at the age of seventeen or eighteen. 

    I also remember him going to a new league in a new country and scoring 5, assisting 4 in 11 games. 

    When he's played for Everton he has scored 4 and assisted 2 in 48 games. It's only been for them that he's seemed to struggle and that has to be either mismanagement or tougher defences in the Premier League, but he's done it in Germany, where their defences are set up similarly. Which leaves just mismanagement...
    and in how many of those 48 games for Everton did he actually start? In total for Everton he's played about 28 hours football. No wonder he's struggled. 
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,117
    Swisdom said:
    I watched all of Lookman's home games for us.  When his tricks didn't work - it was about 50/50, with the pirouette, the cute step-over - he would pass directly to the opposition.  From which they would advance - and score.

    Perhaps RB Leipzig have a better defence than ours.  Which was managed by weak men, and coached by Jackson.

    Since Duchatelet no longer invests in us, it hardly matters if we miss out on sell-on cuts or transfer fees, as with Konsa and Aribo.  Who cares?  It's his loss.
    Over £30m in transfer fees for a 21 year old would tend to suggest you have rocks in your head and and very wrong.
    Have you ever seen a Viewfinder post that didn't suggest he has rocks in his head?
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,480
    Viewfinder still hasn’t justified his scandalous post of a week or so ago inferring that JJ grassed up Tony Watt and that was the reason he had to leave us.
    He often drops in sly bits of unsubstantiated innuendo into his posts but then doesn’t reply to anyone who questions him about it .....enjoys fishing and spreading false gossip.
    Complete waste of space as far as I’m concerned.

  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    Has Lookman actually been sold or is it just more transfer rumours. 
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,625
    Viewfinder still hasn’t justified his scandalous post of a week or so ago inferring that JJ grassed up Tony Watt and that was the reason he had to leave us.
    He often drops in sly bits of unsubstantiated innuendo into his posts but then doesn’t reply to anyone who questions him about it .....enjoys fishing and spreading false gossip.
    Complete waste of space as far as I’m concerned.

    What was Tony supposed to have done?
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    I watched all of Lookman's home games for us.  When his tricks didn't work - it was about 50/50, with the pirouette, the cute step-over - he would pass directly to the opposition.  From which they would advance - and score.

    Perhaps RB Leipzig have a better defence than ours.  Which was managed by weak men, and coached by Jackson.

    Since Duchatelet no longer invests in us, it hardly matters if we miss out on sell-on cuts or transfer fees, as with Konsa and Aribo.  Who cares?  It's his loss.
    IMG
  • Swisdom said:
    I watched all of Lookman's home games for us.  When his tricks didn't work - it was about 50/50, with the pirouette, the cute step-over - he would pass directly to the opposition.  From which they would advance - and score.

    Perhaps RB Leipzig have a better defence than ours.  Which was managed by weak men, and coached by Jackson.

    Since Duchatelet no longer invests in us, it hardly matters if we miss out on sell-on cuts or transfer fees, as with Konsa and Aribo.  Who cares?  It's his loss.
    Over £30m in transfer fees for a 21 year old would tend to suggest you have rocks in your head and and very wrong.
    Have you ever seen a Viewfinder post that didn't suggest he has rocks in his head?
    Makes him one of my fav posters, posts are always entertainment.  Keep it up @Viewfinder
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  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,480
    Viewfinder still hasn’t justified his scandalous post of a week or so ago inferring that JJ grassed up Tony Watt and that was the reason he had to leave us.
    He often drops in sly bits of unsubstantiated innuendo into his posts but then doesn’t reply to anyone who questions him about it .....enjoys fishing and spreading false gossip.
    Complete waste of space as far as I’m concerned.

    What was Tony supposed to have done?
    Ask Viewfinder, not that he’ll answer you of course.
  • Addictedoldgit
    Addictedoldgit Posts: 1,826
    Sky sports news reporting Ademola in Germany now having a medical, transfer value of £16m plus add on's reported.

    If correct, and I believe it was reported we got £8m plus add on's from Everton.

    Cafc could be in line for say 20% ? Of the £8m profit.

    £1.6m not to be sniffed at, although LB will likely see none of it. 

  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,650
    edited July 2019
    Sky sports news reporting Ademola in Germany now having a medical, transfer value of £16m plus add on's reported.

    If correct, and I believe it was reported we got £8m plus add on's from Everton.

    Cafc could be in line for say 20% ? Of the £8m profit.

    £1.6m not to be sniffed at, although LB will likely see none of it. 

    That’ll certainly pay Rolands graffiti bills.
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,135
    Standard are reporting a 15% sell-on fee. If that’s correct, it’s another dismal example of poor negotiation by Katrien/Roland
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,652
    Sky sports news reporting Ademola in Germany now having a medical, transfer value of £16m plus add on's reported.

    If correct, and I believe it was reported we got £8m plus add on's from Everton.

    Cafc could be in line for say 20% ? Of the £8m profit.

    £1.6m not to be sniffed at, although LB will likely see none of it. 

    That’ll certainly pay Rolands graffiti bills.

    Cleaning or spraying? 
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,274
    edited July 2019
    Blucher said:
    Standard are reporting a 15% sell-on fee. If that’s correct, it’s another dismal example of poor negotiation by Katrien/Roland
    Tbf £8M upfront plus 15% for a young kid with little experience and I think (but stand to be corrected) when we were in L1 was not a bad deal.  The transfer market happens to have gone absolutely nuts in the last 2 years since we sold too.  Most sales of our kids have been awful, this one I think was reasonable value at the time. 
  • ColinTat
    ColinTat Posts: 2,794
    I have to agree only transfer fee that they negotiated that was reasonable.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,985
    Blucher said:
    Standard are reporting a 15% sell-on fee. If that’s correct, it’s another dismal example of poor negotiation by Katrien/Roland
    £3.5m
    ill take that. 
    Could get Cullen for £2m and spend the rest on a striker 
  • Valley11 said:
    Blucher said:
    Standard are reporting a 15% sell-on fee. If that’s correct, it’s another dismal example of poor negotiation by Katrien/Roland
    £3.5m
    ill take that. 
    Could get Cullen for £2m and spend the rest on a striker 
    15% of Everton's profit..... so only £1.3M
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,135
    edited July 2019
    I agree that £8 million was reasonable as a basic fee but the majority of sell-on fees tend to be in the 20-25% range. Lookman was one of the most exciting young attackers available and, although we were in League 1, he had proved in our previous relegation season that he could do it on the Championship.

    Still, I suppose the sell-on fee is 15% better than that for Konsa. It also presumably dilutes of one of Duchatelet’s demands for contingency payments should he ever actually get to sell the club. Gomez isn’t going anywhere and Pope has just signed a new contract at Burnley.

    Good luck to Ademola in Germany. He certainly has a point to prove to Silva, who always preferred Walcott and Bernard, despite many inept performances.