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Roland - another statement (12/8/2019)

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  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,534
    We never threw tennis balls. Only beach balls. Another fine Roland balls-up.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,534
    Surprised he hasn't blamed CARD for the Hemed situation.
  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172
    Why doesn't he understand that whenever there was a pitch side demo we won the game.....
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    edited August 2019
    We have 5 or 6 loanee's !
    Fantastic to have them and great work by the A team of Bowyer, Gallen and JJ  to acquire their services but the Inferior wages compared to other Championship teams means we are going to be targeted every time a under 23 player has a good spell in the 1st team. 
    It's an interim measure having half your side being loanee's. (5 max)
    It should be for a few years  under contract not just until Christmas. (Cullen goes back if west ham say so in new year.)

    Love seeing Gallagher and Cullen but we need Burnley type owner/ owners to show up or Sheffield United who know how to run a football club in the modern era.
  • NorthStandUltra
    NorthStandUltra Posts: 2,540
    edited August 2019
    The man is a saint based on this
  • Just sell the club! that's all we want you fool. 
  • Sambo_1
    Sambo_1 Posts: 14
    edited August 2019
    The fact you can tell he don't want us to protest means we should. Only protest in belgium though. That won't effect Bowyer and the team.

    We shouldn't be letting him get comfortable because team is doing well. We need to turn up the heat and finish what we started.
  • This is a childish attempt to widen any divide that he thinks exists between the 98% who want him to sell, and the 2% who think he is doing an alright job.
    As others have already said, all he has to do is put the club up for sale at a realistic price, and then everybody will be happy.
  • I feel a VOTV expose is on its way :smiley:
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,886
    edited August 2019
    Nice one Douchbag. I think you'd better grab that duct tape  :s
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  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,881
    So basically it’s all Rick Everitt’s fault?

    Right-o.

    If that’s really the case and the guy really can influence so many people to do exactly what he wants then maybe he should stand for pope? Or else take part in the next Love Island? 

    Would be a dead cert for either.

    Or alternatively it’s all just another lot of complete bollocks!
  • Has it been forgotten
    - the disaster of Meire( too many insults, lies to list)
    - immediate selling of players eg Yann etc
    - useless players flustered on the club eg Thuram etc
    - inexperienced, inappropriate mangers that suited RDs situation.
    - inevitable relegation.
    - a number of years with unsuitable , players, managers in League One.
    - odd statements by RD, fans “ vinegar p....ers”, 
    - RD showing no interest in the club.

    I could go on, things are going ok at the moment. It is not RDs doing.
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,493
    Yes Roland, let's all make the club attractive on the market. What was it you said recently when asked who would want to buy a football club? Well? Huh? 
  • To_Be_Franck
    To_Be_Franck Posts: 1,095
    He has a point to be fair
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,212
    Well things were all starting to go well so we were well overdue a sprinkle of negativity.  Roll on January when he finishes off our top half finish potential and puts us on the path to league one.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,341
    Surprised he hasn't blamed CARD for the Hemed situation.
    ...yet
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,534
    And clearly believes in applying the "basic income" principle to Championship footballers.
  • jac52
    jac52 Posts: 636
    ;) jac52 said:
    Sollied said:
    jac52 said:
    Sollied said:
    Not sure if it’s already been posted but the link about the owners timeline at Charlton is also very.... interesting 
    I haven't seen it, mind posting?

    CARD continue to demand that the owner sells the club. This is interesting, since it became clear that those leading the protesters don’t care who the club is sold to. Rick Everitt wrote recently (VOTV, June 7th) that “neither (Derek) Chappell nor I were ever aware of the interested party’s identity” when he led a campaign which saw thousands of fans demand the owner sell the club. 

    From the beginning of 2016, Rick Everitt and others organised protests based on the claim that the owner had refused to meet with the intermediary (Peter Varney) who represented aforementioned buyer. Today it appears that Everitt wanted the club to get sold to somebody he didn’t know. 

    Fans, who at the time were understandably very sensitive to the bad results of the team, were convinced that any owner would be better than Roland Duchatelet. It became a witch hunt to which the club failed to respond properly. There were protests during games, throwing of tennis balls and plastic toys on the pitch to stop games to make the owner sell to anyone.  

    Posts on fan forums of that time show that some felt that those protests during games were accepted as a means to a higher objective, because even a relegation of Charlton from Championship to League One was seen by quite a few as a collateral damage to a higher objective, since it would increase the chance of driving out the owner out of the club.

    When the current owner acquired the club early January 2014, the club was in the bottom positions of the league. Yet the club avoided relegation by averaging 1.5 points per game under the newly appointed Jose Riga. Charlton finished 18th in the 2013/14 season which left most Charlton fans happy.

    In the 2014/15 season Charlton finished a very respectable 12th place.

    The 2015/16 season started well, however we ran into serious injury problems early in the season. Dissatisfaction grew but there were no protests during 2015.

    The protests started in January 2016, after two years of ownership. Varney, an ex-employee of the club, had approached the owner to talk about a prospective investor. The “investment” was not presented as a potential purchase of the club but as an undefined investment which may have been an investment in LED boarding for example - while the owner had no financial problems to finance all the needs of the club. All these confidential emails were published by Rick Everitt in VOTV on December 29th 2015. Only when an ex-director visited the owner in Belgium in February 2016, it became clear to the owner that there was a candidate buyer (and who he was). 

    Therefore, it is interesting that Everitt wrote recently (VOTV article of June 7th 2019) that “neither Chappell nor I were ever aware of the interested party’s identity”. 

    Everitt encouraged thousands of fans to demand the owner sell the club to somebody he didn’t know. 

    The owner was willing to sell the club anyway then, because the EFL Financial Fair Play rules changed allowing Championship clubs to lose £13m per year rather than £6m per year, making owning a club in the Championship much less attractive. 

    However, the Coalition Against Roland Duchatelet did exactly the opposite of what was desirable to promote the sale of the club:

    -     They urged fans not to buy season tickets to reduce income and thus increase the yearly losses of the club

    -     They got in touch with sponsors to convince them to stop sponsoring our football club with the same objective

    -     They heavily criticized measures to reduce costs

    Some individuals have started a personal war against the owner which has nothing to do anymore with the wellbeing of the club. It is a personal feeling of hatred they developed and a personal feud. It seems that their main objective is to make the owner suffer as much as possible, while Duchatelet is locked into an undesired ownership.

    Candidate owners do not only study the finances of the football club, they also have a close look at how the fans may treat them once they have bought the club. When the current owner did his due diligence, he found that Charlton had a very good, strong and vibrant fan base and a very good and strong social role in the local community. Will candidate buyers believe that the protests against the current owner are due to his incompetence? Maybe, who knows. Surely they would not like to be the victim of a similar treatment whilst pouring millions of pounds into the club every year.

    Some are surprised that the owner is totally open with regards to the negative points of ownership, which might discourage some candidate buyers. There are two reasons for this: 

    -      it is a matter of ethics 

    -      it is also good business practice in order to strongly reduce the risk of claims by the buyer after the club has been sold

    It is something the owner has done when selling three other clubs (Alcorcon, Standard Liege and St Truiden) which were not for sale as long as Charlton have been.


    https://www.cafc.co.uk/club/club-overview/ownership/ownership-timeline

    Jesus Christ of Nazareth! Only read the first bits but cannot believe that is on our club website.

    Thanks for posting. I shall now enjoy reading the rest of this deranged diatribe.
    This guy Everitt sounds like a real trouble-maker. If it wasn't for him I reckon RD would have been able to have sold the club by now!
     
    It's time for CARE to rise up against the true villain!
  • Sollied
    Sollied Posts: 144
    Is that timeline statement the first time they’ve officially acknowledged the club was for sale long before they started actively looking for buyers? 
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,483
    He has a point to be fair
    But you don’t!

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  • When the current owner did his due diligence, he found that Charlton had a very good, strong and vibrant fan base and a very good and strong social role in the local community. ”

    It didn’t take him long to sort that one out.
    As for every paragraph a three year old could counter all of the points.
  • To_Be_Franck
    To_Be_Franck Posts: 1,095
    He has a point to be fair
    But you don’t!
    I dont?! :open_mouth:
  • PeteF
    PeteF Posts: 1,698
    The wank puffin rides again.
  • Horsfield9
    Horsfield9 Posts: 3,082
    Nurse , nurse .......... NURSE !!!!!!!

    He's at it again !
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,090
    We never threw tennis balls. Only beach balls. Another fine Roland balls-up.
    Advantage Weegie.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,015
    Oh dear, poor old Roley doesn’t want anyone in Belgium 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    edited August 2019
    He could have put out a much better message not focusing on CARD, but stating he agreed budget with Bowyer, told him he did not have to sell Djiksteel and allowed him to do business to strengthen the team. He could also have said he did not put any pressure to sell Taylor and had Bowyer done so, all funds would have been invested in the team. He could have said, he wants to create the conditions for the club to do well whilst remaining financially sustainable. All of this would have gone down decently well I think. Instead, he shoots himself in the foot. The problem is, we do know he has been lucky with Bowyer who is working miracles with the lowest budget in the League. And he did his best to lose him and we only have him for a season and after that some bigger fish are going to come calling. I find myself wishing Leeds well as if they sack their manager, we all know where they will come. 

    Sell now at a reasonable price and let us have some owners who will tie Bowyer and Taylor up!


  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,176
    'Lee Bowyer and Steve Gallen have an agreed budget and have built a squad that everyone can get behind'

    Yeah, and it's a shite budget, meaning it's a miracle that Gallen and Bowyer have built a decent looking squad. Even then though it's mostly loans that we grubbed on deadline day. We'll have to do it all over again next season like we did this year because Roland won't actually invest in long term progress.
  • masicat
    masicat Posts: 5,008
    Well, now we know his weakness. The threat of a trip to Belgium has tipped him over the edge.
    However, the meltdown was caused by The Lyle Taylor situation. Events since then have thrown cold water on a very overheating fanbase. He should have the intelligence to see that.
    I would be interested to know how people would feel if he backed Bowyer in January were we to be top 10. 
    If he saw the error of his ways could he be allowed back in?