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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,043
    moutuakilla said:
    paulie8290 said:
    Bolton announced signings with their teamsheet haha






    ✍️🏻 Bolton Wanderers are delighted to announce the following signings:

    Harry Brockbank 👉🏻 https://t.co/K3LyfKkX6e
    Josh Earl 👉🏻 https://t.co/MpVyT69grh
    James Weir 👉🏻 https://t.co/SD4SJaiwMn

    Earl is already injured and out for up to 3 months (their striker, Hall, is also out for the same lengths of time). They have suspended ticket sales for this weekends game too
    The decision to suspend ticket sales is nothing to do with the Coventry game being cancelled

    It is a game going ahead
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,592
    edited August 2019
    ForeverAddickted said:
    moutuakilla said:
    paulie8290 said:
    Bolton announced signings with their teamsheet haha






    ✍️🏻 Bolton Wanderers are delighted to announce the following signings:

    Harry Brockbank 👉🏻 https://t.co/K3LyfKkX6e
    Josh Earl 👉🏻 https://t.co/MpVyT69grh
    James Weir 👉🏻 https://t.co/SD4SJaiwMn

    Earl is already injured and out for up to 3 months (their striker, Hall, is also out for the same lengths of time). They have suspended ticket sales for this weekends game too
    The decision to suspend ticket sales is nothing to do with the Coventry game being cancelled

    It is a game going ahead
    Yeah - it is a strange decision, supposed to be an announcement today about it. Didn't realise that season tickets hadn't been put on sale, although that does make sense
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,763
    NapaAddick said:
    stackitsteve said:
    Sad to hear some Bury fans have stepped up discussions on a phoenix club.

    Yes, they spent beyond their means to secure promotion last season (part blame there for both the ownership and the EFL) but the biggest victims are the only people without blame. The fans.
    Do you not think they were tickled pick when the owner"spent beyond their means" to aim for promotion? Fans moan all the time about not enough spending. I feel bad for them but don't think they are "without blame."
    you really are utterly clueless aren't you.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,043
    NapaAddick said:
    stackitsteve said:
    Sad to hear some Bury fans have stepped up discussions on a phoenix club.

    Yes, they spent beyond their means to secure promotion last season (part blame there for both the ownership and the EFL) but the biggest victims are the only people without blame. The fans.
    Do you not think they were tickled pick when the owner"spent beyond their means" to aim for promotion? Fans moan all the time about not enough spending. I feel bad for them but don't think they are "without blame."
    I had this same chat with some kid... the trouble is fans can moan about not spending but its down to the owners to spend within their means

    Most arent going to care about the accounts and if they see Gareth Bale being signed arent going to worry about where the money is coming from and will presume they can be afforded
  • snowinberlin
    snowinberlin Posts: 807
    ForeverAddickted said:
    NapaAddick said:
    stackitsteve said:
    Sad to hear some Bury fans have stepped up discussions on a phoenix club.

    Yes, they spent beyond their means to secure promotion last season (part blame there for both the ownership and the EFL) but the biggest victims are the only people without blame. The fans.
    Do you not think they were tickled pick when the owner"spent beyond their means" to aim for promotion? Fans moan all the time about not enough spending. I feel bad for them but don't think they are "without blame."
    I had this same chat with some kid... the trouble is fans can moan about not spending but its down to the owners to spend within their means

    Most arent going to care about the accounts and if they see Gareth Bale being signed arent going to worry about where the money is coming from and will presume they can be afforded
    The thing is some people can be 'rich' and buy into a club and support the club financially from their own wealth, i.e. Roman Abramovich or the Sheikhs at City, Jack Walker etc. whereas other less scrupulous owners will load the debt onto the club or treat it as a loan.

    It's not always clear if you're a fan how that will transpire as we are generally in the dark with these matters
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,043
    Bury's next game has been cancelled

    Now have 14-days to avoid being withdrawn from the League
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,818

    Bury;s game against Sheff Wed in the League cup next Tuesday has been postponed & Bury have until 23rd August to satisfy the EFL over insolvency, otherwise they will be suspended from the League altogether.


    I read that as they have 2 weeks tomorrow to get everything done otherwise they are out. Clock is well & truly ticking.

  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,127
    NapaAddick said:
    stackitsteve said:
    Sad to hear some Bury fans have stepped up discussions on a phoenix club.

    Yes, they spent beyond their means to secure promotion last season (part blame there for both the ownership and the EFL) but the biggest victims are the only people without blame. The fans.
    Do you not think they were tickled pick when the owner"spent beyond their means" to aim for promotion? Fans moan all the time about not enough spending. I feel bad for them but don't think they are "without blame."
    How on earth are Bury's fans to blame for an owner spending money he seemingly didn't have?

    It's like blaming Charlton fans for Roland loading debt onto the club and asking 60m for a club worth half that.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,043
    edited August 2019
    Bolton Wanderers takeover has been suspended!!

    Laurence Bassini has managed to get a court order to suspend the latest takeover

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49286229

    Wonder if this means we'll start to see their games being postponed
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,127
    Oztumer is stuck now.

    Magennis got out in time.

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  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,034
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Oztumer is stuck now.

    Magennis got out in time.
    Unless he was our third posssible
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    When (Oz "it's not a" Tumer) was not paid, why did he not just.... leave? I doubt anyone could have stopped him. Doesn't not paying someone for 3 months end their contract?
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,127
    NapaAddick said:
    When (Oz "it's not a" Tumer) was not paid, why did he not just.... leave? I doubt anyone could have stopped him. Doesn't not paying someone for 3 months end their contract?
    I suspect because walking out would've meant losing any rights to the 5 months wages he's owed. Let's not forget he was playing for Dulwich just 5 years ago so can probably not afford to just give up so much money.

    Magennis on the other hand has been a pro for 10 years now so was likely in a better position to walk away.
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    NapaAddick said:
    When (Oz "it's not a" Tumer) was not paid, why did he not just.... leave? I doubt anyone could have stopped him. Doesn't not paying someone for 3 months end their contract?
    I suspect because walking out would've meant losing any rights to the 5 months wages he's owed. Let's not forget he was playing for Dulwich just 5 years ago so can probably not afford to just give up so much money.
    Thanks, makes sense.
  • snowinberlin
    snowinberlin Posts: 807
    you can get around 1/2 on Coventry to beat Bolton

    May as well lump on
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,089
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    NapaAddick said:
    When (Oz "it's not a" Tumer) was not paid, why did he not just.... leave? I doubt anyone could have stopped him. Doesn't not paying someone for 3 months end their contract?
    I suspect because walking out would've meant losing any rights to the 5 months wages he's owed. Let's not forget he was playing for Dulwich just 5 years ago so can probably not afford to just give up so much money.

    Magennis on the other hand has been a pro for 10 years now so was likely in a better position to walk away.
    Surely they still owe him the money even if he leaves? Or does he no longer count as a “football creditor” and get preference on any pay out in the event of administration if he leaves? 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,043
    Interesting transfer deal thats just been completed

    Leicester have signed someone from Bury for £100k, wonder if that'll help keep them alive
  • snowinberlin
    snowinberlin Posts: 807
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Interesting transfer deal thats just been completed

    Leicester have signed someone from Bury for £100k, wonder if that'll help keep them alive
    knowing Bury they'll probably go on a big spending spree
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,327
    Oztumer and other senior Bolton players refused to play yesterday over unpaid wages.
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    Fantastic result for Bolton drawing 0-0 with Coventry and only using the youngsters. 

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  • kidbrookeaddick
    kidbrookeaddick Posts: 1,052
    mart77 said:
    Fantastic result for Bolton drawing 0-0 with Coventry and only using the youngsters. 
    And cov having 3 goals disallowed
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,043
    kidbrookeaddick said:
    mart77 said:
    Fantastic result for Bolton drawing 0-0 with Coventry and only using the youngsters. 
    And cov having 3 goals disallowed
    Should learn to stay onside...
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,038
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49308911

    Good BBC article on Bolton. I guess it would be a risk buying one if the club folded, but season tickets haven't even gone on sale...
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,245
    NapaAddick said:
    stackitsteve said:
    Sad to hear some Bury fans have stepped up discussions on a phoenix club.

    Yes, they spent beyond their means to secure promotion last season (part blame there for both the ownership and the EFL) but the biggest victims are the only people without blame. The fans.
    Do you not think they were tickled pick when the owner"spent beyond their means" to aim for promotion? Fans moan all the time about not enough spending. I feel bad for them but don't think they are "without blame."
    how are the supporters not "without blame"?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,043

  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    ForeverAddickted said:

    Bugger me, I hope @Ollywozere is reading this ;-) 
  • snowinberlin
    snowinberlin Posts: 807
    Is the bury takeover by someone fit and proper?
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,793
    edited August 2019
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    NapaAddick said:
    stackitsteve said:
    Sad to hear some Bury fans have stepped up discussions on a phoenix club.

    Yes, they spent beyond their means to secure promotion last season (part blame there for both the ownership and the EFL) but the biggest victims are the only people without blame. The fans.
    Do you not think they were tickled pick when the owner"spent beyond their means" to aim for promotion? Fans moan all the time about not enough spending. I feel bad for them but don't think they are "without blame."
    how are the supporters not "without blame"?
    Of course they are blameless. They hardly spent millions and the supporters don't have access to the accounts and are not involved in the day to day financial running of the club. They are completely blameless and it is ridiculous for Napa to suggest otherwise. 
  • Return of the SE7
    Return of the SE7 Posts: 520
    snowinberlin said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    NapaAddick said:
    stackitsteve said:
    Sad to hear some Bury fans have stepped up discussions on a phoenix club.

    Yes, they spent beyond their means to secure promotion last season (part blame there for both the ownership and the EFL) but the biggest victims are the only people without blame. The fans.
    Do you not think they were tickled pick when the owner"spent beyond their means" to aim for promotion? Fans moan all the time about not enough spending. I feel bad for them but don't think they are "without blame."
    I had this same chat with some kid... the trouble is fans can moan about not spending but its down to the owners to spend within their means

    Most arent going to care about the accounts and if they see Gareth Bale being signed arent going to worry about where the money is coming from and will presume they can be afforded
    The thing is some people can be 'rich' and buy into a club and support the club financially from their own wealth, i.e. Roman Abramovich or the Sheikhs at City, Jack Walker etc. whereas other less scrupulous owners will load the debt onto the club or treat it as a loan.

    It's not always clear if you're a fan how that will transpire as we are generally in the dark with these matters

    snowinberlin said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    NapaAddick said:
    stackitsteve said:
    Sad to hear some Bury fans have stepped up discussions on a phoenix club.

    Yes, they spent beyond their means to secure promotion last season (part blame there for both the ownership and the EFL) but the biggest victims are the only people without blame. The fans.
    Do you not think they were tickled pick when the owner"spent beyond their means" to aim for promotion? Fans moan all the time about not enough spending. I feel bad for them but don't think they are "without blame."
    I had this same chat with some kid... the trouble is fans can moan about not spending but its down to the owners to spend within their means

    Most arent going to care about the accounts and if they see Gareth Bale being signed arent going to worry about where the money is coming from and will presume they can be afforded
    The thing is some people can be 'rich' and buy into a club and support the club financially from their own wealth, i.e. Roman Abramovich or the Sheikhs at City, Jack Walker etc. whereas other less scrupulous owners will load the debt onto the club or treat it as a loan.

    It's not always clear if you're a fan how that will transpire as we are generally in the dark with these matters
    Ha ha made me laugh. Other less scrupulous owners than the City Sheikh and Abramovich. 
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,935
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    NapaAddick said:
    stackitsteve said:
    Sad to hear some Bury fans have stepped up discussions on a phoenix club.

    Yes, they spent beyond their means to secure promotion last season (part blame there for both the ownership and the EFL) but the biggest victims are the only people without blame. The fans.
    Do you not think they were tickled pick when the owner"spent beyond their means" to aim for promotion? Fans moan all the time about not enough spending. I feel bad for them but don't think they are "without blame."
    how are the supporters not "without blame"?
    Of course they are blameless. They hardly spent millions and the supporters don't have access to the accounts and are not involved in the day to day financial running of the club. They are completely blameless and it is ridiculous for Napa to suggest otherwise. 
    This is what gets me about Newcastle. Ashley has always said whatever money the club makes, they can spend. He should be applauded not attacked by the fans. 

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