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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • addick05
    addick05 Posts: 2,348
    Remind me how many football clubs are currently making a profit ? Possible in the ludicrous world of Premier a League but Championship clubs made a combined loss of more than £510 million last year. 

    Isn't this the point RD made a couple of weeks' ago?
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,477
    RedChaser said:
    I of course don’t know the full background to the clubs current valuation and there’s probably only two or three people who know how the price is arrived at any given time.......Duchatalet, like everyone else, will have just a gut feeling I assume.
    Would have thought a bid of £45,000,000 should clinch it given our current position, what do any of you guys think?
    Is that gross or net of Directors £7m loans mate?
    To be honest I hadn’t thought of that.....I am one of those who thinks (for clarities sake), that the Directors loans, although made evident from the outset, shouldn’t be included in the asking price....so the price I have suggested would not include those ‘ potential’ future debts.
    I mean to say........how can you charge someone for something that may or may not happen.....it’s a gamble and always has been for all concerned.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited October 2019
    ISoundAsa£ said:
    RedChaser said:
    I of course don’t know the full background to the clubs current valuation and there’s probably only two or three people who know how the price is arrived at any given time.......Duchatalet, like everyone else, will have just a gut feeling I assume.
    Would have thought a bid of £45,000,000 should clinch it given our current position, what do any of you guys think?
    Is that gross or net of Directors £7m loans mate?
    To be honest I hadn’t thought of that.....I am one of those who thinks (for clarities sake), that the Directors loans, although made evident from the outset, shouldn’t be included in the asking price....so the price I have suggested would not include those ‘ potential’ future debts.
    I mean to say........how can you charge someone for something that may or may not happen.....it’s a gamble and always has been for all concerned.
    Appreciated @SounfAsa£ but it all depends on the buyer(s) preference for clean title on the property which could affect the ability to borrow against those assets, lease them out or sell the business in future without a contingent liability hanging over it.

    If I was the buyer I'd want clean title and for £45m I'd want the Directors Loans cleared, so £38m net.
  • I got married in 2005... a sad year for all the women is SE London...
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    2006, a bottlenose whale is spotted in The Thames in Central London. Sadly it died the following day as volunteers tried to return it to the sea.
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,836
    2006, a bottlenose whale is spotted in The Thames in Central London. Sadly it died the following day as volunteers tried to return it to the sea.
    Its name was Pardew
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,071
    Anyone know when the Aussies will finally get this over the line? 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,979
    Anyone know when the Aussies will finally get this over the line? 
    #DoneDeal
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,207
    Anyone know when the Aussies will finally get this over the line? 
    Imminently 
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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Anyone know when the Aussies will finally get this over the line? 
    They’re just waiting to unlock the money.
  • addick05 said:
    Remind me how many football clubs are currently making a profit ? Possible in the ludicrous world of Premier a League but Championship clubs made a combined loss of more than £510 million last year. 

    Isn't this the point RD made a couple of weeks' ago?
    Indeed. So why does he think a loss making enterprise like Charlton is worth so much money?
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,333
    2006, a bottlenose whale is spotted in The Thames in Central London. Sadly it died the following day as volunteers tried to return it to the sea.
    It was a non-return bottlenose.
  • Don’t want Big Sam anywhere near our club.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    RedChaser said:
    ISoundAsa£ said:
    RedChaser said:
    I of course don’t know the full background to the clubs current valuation and there’s probably only two or three people who know how the price is arrived at any given time.......Duchatalet, like everyone else, will have just a gut feeling I assume.
    Would have thought a bid of £45,000,000 should clinch it given our current position, what do any of you guys think?
    Is that gross or net of Directors £7m loans mate?
    To be honest I hadn’t thought of that.....I am one of those who thinks (for clarities sake), that the Directors loans, although made evident from the outset, shouldn’t be included in the asking price....so the price I have suggested would not include those ‘ potential’ future debts.
    I mean to say........how can you charge someone for something that may or may not happen.....it’s a gamble and always has been for all concerned.
    Appreciated @SounfAsa£ but it all depends on the buyer(s) preference for clean title on the property which could affect the ability to borrow against those assets, lease them out or sell the business in future without a contingent liability hanging over it.

    If I was the buyer I'd want clean title and for £45m I'd want the Directors Loans cleared, so £38m net.
    If I was the buyer I would want clear title.  If I was the buyer we would have a 3000 page thread for "43v3r out" by Christmas 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,033
    Asked Alan Nixon if he thought the Dell group might look at other clubs 




    Sunderland interest came out of blue. Fitted their budget and long term aims. Don’t think there is a similar match.
  • aliwibble said:
    Aethelstan said
    With Happy Valley's extraordinary track record of accurately predicting the score of Charlton's forthcoming matches, I am sure that will not faze him in the slightest. He obviously has crystal balls.
    If his powers of prediction are that good, perhaps he should get a Euromillions ticket for Tuesday's draw. With £169million jackpot, he could buy the club himself and we could finally kill the thread.
    Happy Valley has too much integrity to accept a penny from anyone that he has not earned by the sweat of his brow.
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,290
    edited October 2019
    Well the £170m odd Euromillions jackpot was won by a single British ticketholder. Chances of them being a Charlton fan willing to blow a significant proportion of their winnings on buying the club and covering the annual losses (and just out of interest, what is the operating loss these days?) ?

    To be honest, I reckon we've got more chance of automatic promotion this season...
  • aliwibble said:
    Well the £170m odd Euromillions jackpot was won by a single British ticketholder. Chances of them being a Charlton fan willing to blow a significant proportion of their winnings on buying the club and covering the annual losses (and just out of interest, what is the operating loss these days?) ?

    To be honest, I reckon we've got more chance of automatic promotion this season...
    Fraid it wasnt me... To be honest I'd have blown about £70m buying out Roland, would then have contacted Peter Varney asking if he wanted to get a decent group together to buy the club from me for a knock down price

    Would have made a heavy loss but would still have £100m plus Roland would be out of Charlton!!
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,836
    aliwibble said:
    Well the £170m odd Euromillions jackpot was won by a single British ticketholder. Chances of them being a Charlton fan willing to blow a significant proportion of their winnings on buying the club and covering the annual losses (and just out of interest, what is the operating loss these days?) ?

    To be honest, I reckon we've got more chance of automatic promotion this season...
    I won the Euromillions last night. £5.80. RD would have to drop his asking price a fair bit.
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  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,220
    Davo55 said:
    aliwibble said:
    Well the £170m odd Euromillions jackpot was won by a single British ticketholder. Chances of them being a Charlton fan willing to blow a significant proportion of their winnings on buying the club and covering the annual losses (and just out of interest, what is the operating loss these days?) ?

    To be honest, I reckon we've got more chance of automatic promotion this season...
    I won the Euromillions last night. £5.80. RD would have to drop his asking price a fair bit.
    Also someone keeps putting pennies in to the Protest Fund by mistake.  I dont recognise the name.  I've spoken to the Bank and they said there's nothing that can be done until the person who is missing the money contacts them.  I think its up to 8.06p now. 
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195
    I of course don’t know the full background to the clubs current valuation and there’s probably only two or three people who know how the price is arrived at any given time.......Duchatalet, like everyone else, will have just a gut feeling I assume.
    Would have thought a bid of £45,000,000 should clinch it given our current position, what do any of you guys think?
      The preposterous europrat 

  • aliwibble said:
    Well the £170m odd Euromillions jackpot was won by a single British ticketholder. Chances of them being a Charlton fan willing to blow a significant proportion of their winnings on buying the club and covering the annual losses (and just out of interest, what is the operating loss these days?) ?

    To be honest, I reckon we've got more chance of automatic promotion this season...
    Fraid it wasnt me... To be honest I'd have blown about £70m buying out Roland, would then have contacted Peter Varney asking if he wanted to get a decent group together to buy the club from me for a knock down price

    Would have made a heavy loss but would still have £100m plus Roland would be out of Charlton!!
    whenever anyone asks me what the first thing i'd do if i wont the euromillions this is always my answer. One day...one day...
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,145
    aliwibble said:
    Well the £170m odd Euromillions jackpot was won by a single British ticketholder. Chances of them being a Charlton fan willing to blow a significant proportion of their winnings on buying the club and covering the annual losses (and just out of interest, what is the operating loss these days?) ?

    To be honest, I reckon we've got more chance of automatic promotion this season...
    Fraid it wasnt me... To be honest I'd have blown about £70m buying out Roland, would then have contacted Peter Varney asking if he wanted to get a decent group together to buy the club from me for a knock down price

    Would have made a heavy loss but would still have £100m plus Roland would be out of Charlton!!
    whenever anyone asks me what the first thing i'd do if i wont the euromillions this is always my answer. One day...one day...
    I wouldn't do it like that. I would do it like Kevin Cash. I'd contact @Airman Brown and tell him that I'm staying anonymous, he will be the Jiminez -type "owner" who buys out Roland, and I  will bankroll it. Think of the win-wins in that scenario...:-)
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,418
    edited October 2019
    If it had of been me, I’d financed the buy out and handed the reins to someone to run after just one day in charge. 
    Day one....... Mr Keohane please attend my office immediately and don’t worry about ordering lunch 😉
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,290
    Davo55 said:
    aliwibble said:
    Well the £170m odd Euromillions jackpot was won by a single British ticketholder. Chances of them being a Charlton fan willing to blow a significant proportion of their winnings on buying the club and covering the annual losses (and just out of interest, what is the operating loss these days?) ?

    To be honest, I reckon we've got more chance of automatic promotion this season...
    I won the Euromillions last night. £5.80. RD would have to drop his asking price a fair bit.
    Damn, you'd have outbid me! £2.90 :-)  @PragueAddick I'll have to bear that scenario in mind for my £2.50 worth of dreams of obscene wealth next time the Euromillions jackpot reaches silly levels.
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    edited October 2019
    Seems to me that a certain person who is involved in that article has been planning this thread for a long time. I can see why they called it the GOAT when in theory, this thread is about 11 years old in their mind :wink:
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    Sage said:
    Seems to me that a certain person who is involved in that article has been planning this thread for a long time. I can see why they called it the GOAT when in theory, this thread is about 13 years old in their mind :wink:
    bloody hell, that was a surprise.  : - )
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    A more realistic asking price for a Championship club?
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