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Bowyer for England

raddickle
raddickle Posts: 113
in General Charlton
OK this is probably a little far fetched but I wonder if we might be seeing a future England manager in Lee.
He is displaying tactical nous. He understands players and they get him and most importantly they want  to play for him and give him everything.
I expect he would rather be fishing though.  

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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,991
    I can’t see him getting along with the FA!
  • East_Stand_Loopy
    East_Stand_Loopy Posts: 2,205
    ValleyGary said:
    I can’t see him getting along with the FA!
    Absolutely. You're talking about someone who has failed a drug test, and has been subject to criminal charges!

    The FA wouldn't touch him if he was the last coach on earth.
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,656
    He’s too busy getting us  into the premier league, and Europe before worrying about England.
  • raddickle
    raddickle Posts: 113
    Mendonca In Asdas said:
    He’s too busy getting us  into the premier league, and Europe before worrying about England.
    Well I wasn’t thinking about tomorrow. He would clearly have to have premier league experience and much that I would love it I doubt that it will be with us.
    If he has the desire I think he could move on to bigger things.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,370
    The Rugby team?
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,873
    I'd prefer it if he just stayed with us....

    The fickle funny old game football is.

    This thread wouldn't have started up the day after we lost at home to Birmingham.

    All of a sudden, he's potentially the next England manager.

    Charlton is still his 1st managerial job.

    Charlton was also Chris Powell's 1st managerial job.

    Chill-ax and just enjoy what we are doing 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,059
    Too much baggage I would expect 
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,489
    raddickle said:
    OK this is probably a little far fetched but I wonder if we might be seeing a future England manager in Lee.
    He is displaying tactical nous. He understands players and they get him and most importantly they want  to play for him and give him everything.
    I expect he would rather be fishing though.  
    About as much chance as swimming across The English Channel in a crombie overcoat.
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    East_Stand_Loopy said:
    ValleyGary said:
    I can’t see him getting along with the FA!
    Absolutely. You're talking about someone who has failed a drug test, and has been subject to criminal charges!

    The FA wouldn't touch him if he was the last coach on earth.
    If in ten years time LB is considered to be one of the best english managers and has won trophies/qualified for europe regularly then the FA would be all over him claiming he's a true english football success story. the FA is a gaggle of bent liars and thieves.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,313
    Eddie Howe will be an England manager in the future, Bowyer won't be

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  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Lee is here to stay. 
    If he gets an owner that backs him with (not even serious) dosh, then he will be here for a long time, enough to build something in his mould - he loves Charlton.
  • mascot88
    mascot88 Posts: 9,642
    Look... He's a footballing god ... clearly ... this is the beginning... 
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,928
    Bowyer for charlton 
  • SouthLondonisRed
    SouthLondonisRed Posts: 569
    cafcdave123 said:
    East_Stand_Loopy said:
    ValleyGary said:
    I can’t see him getting along with the FA!
    Absolutely. You're talking about someone who has failed a drug test, and has been subject to criminal charges!

    The FA wouldn't touch him if he was the last coach on earth.
    If in ten years time LB is considered to be one of the best english managers and has won trophies/qualified for europe regularly then the FA would be all over him claiming he's a true english football success story. the FA is a gaggle of bent liars and thieves.
    You say that about winning trophies/qualified for Europe etc.
    But Southgate hasn't got that CV and he has the job right now.
    So think that part doesn't matter to the FA, it's just the case who is available at the time.
  • Saga Lout
    Saga Lout Posts: 6,845
    East_Stand_Loopy said:
    ValleyGary said:
    I can’t see him getting along with the FA!
    Absolutely. You're talking about someone who has failed a drug test, and has been subject to criminal charges!

    The FA wouldn't touch him if he was the last coach on earth.
    Sounds like he's well qualified to be the Prime Minister!
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,227
    East_Stand_Loopy said:
    ValleyGary said:
    I can’t see him getting along with the FA!
    Absolutely. You're talking about someone who has failed a drug test, and has been subject to criminal charges!

    The FA wouldn't touch him if he was the last coach on earth.
    I agree although how long ago was the drug test and criminal charges? All irrelevant now as far as i'm concerned, Bowyer's a different person now.
  • Siv_in_Norfolk
    Siv_in_Norfolk Posts: 4,058
    MartinCAFC said:
    East_Stand_Loopy said:
    ValleyGary said:
    I can’t see him getting along with the FA!
    Absolutely. You're talking about someone who has failed a drug test, and has been subject to criminal charges!

    The FA wouldn't touch him if he was the last coach on earth.
    I agree although how long ago was the drug test and criminal charges? All irrelevant now as far as i'm concerned, Bowyer's a different person now.
    Well, there is a view within discussions about personhood that holds we are not the same person as we were in the past. The main weakness of the view is when responsibility is introduced. If Johnny kills somebody today, is the different person that he is going to be tomorrow liable to be punished for the act? When is the cut off?
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,746
    The cut off is in people's heads. A few people I know have come up to me and said, what is it like to have a racist manager. I defend Bowyer as I can tell the man he is now isn't a racist, but he has that label, unfairly or not, and that is why he will never get the England job. If we can keep him, maybe with a new owner, that may work in our favour in a few years.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,423
    He’ll do a Brian Clough. He’ll win the Champions League with us but his face won’t fit. Instead the likes of Lampard, Gerrard and Gary Neville will get a chance and each do a mediocre job.
  • Mametz
    Mametz Posts: 1,258
    Can't see that  he will ever get near the England job because of his youthful misdemeanors. When he first re-joined Charlton a couple of years ago, there were quite few people on this forum who opined that they didn't want him anywhere near the club. 

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  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,471
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    The cut off is in people's heads. A few people I know have come up to me and said, what is it like to have a racist manager. I defend Bowyer as I can tell the man he is now isn't a racist, but he has that label, unfairly or not, and that is why he will never get the England job. If we can keep him, maybe with a new owner, that may work in our favour in a few years.
    I'm sure loads of people have said racist things in their youth and changed since then. It's pretty stupid if people aren't allowed to change.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,746
    I agree - but it is what people are like. I find it irritating when they say that beacuse it is unfair. It is clear Bowyer is a great young manager and not racist at all. But it is the society we live in. People can easily be tarred. It is a laziness but we are all to blame for not really making an effort to interrogate whether throw away accsuations like that are true or not. 

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