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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Sensible questions and one would expect questions 1-5 answered quickly, especially with the planned engagement with fan groups.Henry Irving said:1 who owns the club?
2 what is the business plan?
3 how will that plan be funded?
4 what are the plans for the training ground and academy?
5 what are the plans for the Valley?
6 what is the exit strategy?
Laugh away but think back and consider if we'd had honest answers to all of these about the Spivs and Duchatelet regimes.
They may not know the answer to question 6 themselves yet. Maybe they do know at what stage they would bale out if things went wrong though!
At this stage perhaps a five year plan would be a more reasonable at 2? This would be a reasonable expectation and in line with normal business practice.2 -
Of course we haven't but we don't have an automatic right to receive all the answers either.Henry Irving said:1 who owns the club?
2 what is the business plan?
3 how will that plan be funded?
4 what are the plans for the training ground and academy?
5 what are the plans for the Valley?
6 what is the exit strategy?
Laugh away but think back and consider if we'd had honest answers to all of these about the Spivs and Duchatelet regimes.
As fans we want to know the answers and it's not unreasonable to ask to be considered. We all know under Roland we were ignored and disrespected. But I don't think it has to go fully the other way. Not many owners come out and answer many of the above questions and I wouldn't expect them too either. As long as they respect the supporters, communicate with us and spend enough money and time on the club we should all be happy. That doesn't mean success but at least it's not rolling a dice with the club's future either.
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6, what is your exit strategy.
When Charlton fans turn up in Abu Dhabi giving me a hard time I’ll know it’s time to go!
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I mean people saying we basically have an equivalent of the Man City owners etc. It sounds like there is some uncertainty on where the money is going to come from the that's allJ BLOCK said:
It is though, Cawley has said who’s bankrolling it and he’s minted.Braziliance said:I think it's already done and dusted.
Either way even if the money isn't what people believed, we wanted Roland gone and that's that. If they stabilise us and make us a consistent mid table championship team that treats their fans, players and staff correctly then that will do me for the foreseeable future0 -
As people have said above just because they are middle eastern and "minted" does not mean the money is coming our way, lets wait and see when a statement is released.
Roland was worth over 600 million euros and look how that turned out.5 -
Thanks Dad.CharltonByBlood said:I've been over the moon since the take but it really hit home this morning and here's why:
My son has been playing semi professional football for the last 10 years even though he is in his mid 20's I still go to watch him most weeks and have done since he was 7.
When he has not had a game or been injured we go to the games when we can, home or away. Including weeknights. He's a huge chatlton fan and has band since he was 5 years old (infact this was in account a few years ago!) I'm in my 60s now and don't have many charlton friends in essex, so my son had no choice really growing up!
Over the last 2 years he has struggled terribly with injuries and struggled to get fit but when he is fit he is one of the first names on the team sheet and he lives for his football.
Over the last 2 years he has thought about packing it in full time and getting his Saturdays back but said he would never buy a season ticket under RD. He just couldn't stomach it. He would not at buy tickets from his friends or begrudgingly from the club.
Yestersay he played a game which they won 4-0 and he scored the 4th. This morning he officially quit his team. Retired as such as he feels his body can not take it anymore and when he told me he didn't seem too gutted which took my by surprise.
Then pulled out an email confirmation of 2 half season tickets in the west lower for me and him and said we need something to do on weekends now which filled me with joy.
I have never seen him this excited since he was a little boy waiting to see Harvey outside the club shop. Without sounding too cliche here (and sorry for rambling on) but blimey..
We really do have our Charlton back.
Although, it’s going to be incredibly awkward asking you for your share now.
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Anyone got any tips for getting a cork back in a half empty bottle of champagne ?16
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That's the easy one, returning those half year season tickets are going to be a bastard.grumpyaddick said:Anyone got any tips for getting a cork back in a half empty bottle of champagne ?
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No need. Put a silver tea spoon in the top and it should still be fizzy by the time the EFL clear the takeover.grumpyaddick said:Anyone got any tips for getting a cork back in a half empty bottle of champagne ?
Then go and lie down and figure why you had half left in the first place.5 -
Henry Irving said:1 who owns the club? We can’t divulge that information.
2 what is the business plan? It got left on a south eastern train, but we are working around the clock with our senior advisor Katrien Meire to draw something up.
3 how will that plan be funded? American Express.
4 what are the plans for the training ground and academy? The training ground has been given to the previous owner as a gesture of goodwill.
5 what are the plans for the Valley? We will be closing the East Stand and North Upper. DFS are delivering sofas for all 4 corners of the ground on Friday.
6 what is the exit strategy? The only exit is the one where Bowyer, Taylor and Williams will be heading very soon.
Laugh away but think back and consider if we'd had honest answers to all of these about the Spivs and Duchatelet regimes.
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I know it's all very exciting, especially after the last 6 years or so that the club has been through,to gawp at the Billions the potential new owners may have, calm down, let the EFL do their job, and let the new owners get their foot in the door. Once that happens, I am sure we will hear about the plans for the club, where they would like to see us in 5 years etc, they are Businessmen, and know what they are doing, all will come to those who wait, some posts have them in the front door and out the back door before the deal has been concluded for the club.2
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Are you really his son or is this a jokey wind up comment?Addick_8 said:
Thanks Dad.CharltonByBlood said:I've been over the moon since the take but it really hit home this morning and here's why:
My son has been playing semi professional football for the last 10 years even though he is in his mid 20's I still go to watch him most weeks and have done since he was 7.
When he has not had a game or been injured we go to the games when we can, home or away. Including weeknights. He's a huge chatlton fan and has band since he was 5 years old (infact this was in account a few years ago!) I'm in my 60s now and don't have many charlton friends in essex, so my son had no choice really growing up!
Over the last 2 years he has struggled terribly with injuries and struggled to get fit but when he is fit he is one of the first names on the team sheet and he lives for his football.
Over the last 2 years he has thought about packing it in full time and getting his Saturdays back but said he would never buy a season ticket under RD. He just couldn't stomach it. He would not at buy tickets from his friends or begrudgingly from the club.
Yestersay he played a game which they won 4-0 and he scored the 4th. This morning he officially quit his team. Retired as such as he feels his body can not take it anymore and when he told me he didn't seem too gutted which took my by surprise.
Then pulled out an email confirmation of 2 half season tickets in the west lower for me and him and said we need something to do on weekends now which filled me with joy.
I have never seen him this excited since he was a little boy waiting to see Harvey outside the club shop. Without sounding too cliche here (and sorry for rambling on) but blimey..
We really do have our Charlton back.
Although, it’s going to be incredibly awkward asking you for your share now.0 -
The period between done deal and EFL approval was always going to seem like an eternity.
Posters are basically letting Hyperbole run riot or polar opposite thoughts of crash and burn because of Murray part 2, Jimenez, Slater and the invisible Man Cash, and the daddy of them all, Roland Duchâtelet and his young muse Meire: a woman who was more Jackson Pollock than Pierre-Auguste Renoir in her abilities as a CEO.
We need to draw a line in the Sand when our new owners become the Custodians of CAFC. Duchatelet, Meire must be banished to room 101 in our memories and hope that the tenure of East Street Investments comes to fruition and isn't a mirage in the desert.4 -
They may well answer all of H’s questions. I doubt whether the answers would be entirely truthful.
For instance, Nimer oversees the running of 60 of the sheikhs companies.
You try and find out what they are! Better still try and find some financial transparency on them.
you won’t.3 -
I assume they are private companies rather than PLCs?carly burn said:They may well answer all of H’s questions. I doubt whether the answers would be entirely truthful.
For instance, Nimer oversees the running of 60 of the sheikhs companies.
You try and find out what they are! Better still try and find some financial transparency on them.
you won’t.1 -
A new Takeover thread for a new regime?0
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Henners won't be happy!soapy_jones said:A new Takeover thread for a new regime?1 -
I don't get why people are worried, it will go through fine and they have lots of money. Don't panic.9
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Don't worry about it mum.Curb_It said:
Are you really his son or is this a jokey wind up comment?Addick_8 said:
Thanks Dad.CharltonByBlood said:I've been over the moon since the take but it really hit home this morning and here's why:
My son has been playing semi professional football for the last 10 years even though he is in his mid 20's I still go to watch him most weeks and have done since he was 7.
When he has not had a game or been injured we go to the games when we can, home or away. Including weeknights. He's a huge chatlton fan and has band since he was 5 years old (infact this was in account a few years ago!) I'm in my 60s now and don't have many charlton friends in essex, so my son had no choice really growing up!
Over the last 2 years he has struggled terribly with injuries and struggled to get fit but when he is fit he is one of the first names on the team sheet and he lives for his football.
Over the last 2 years he has thought about packing it in full time and getting his Saturdays back but said he would never buy a season ticket under RD. He just couldn't stomach it. He would not at buy tickets from his friends or begrudgingly from the club.
Yestersay he played a game which they won 4-0 and he scored the 4th. This morning he officially quit his team. Retired as such as he feels his body can not take it anymore and when he told me he didn't seem too gutted which took my by surprise.
Then pulled out an email confirmation of 2 half season tickets in the west lower for me and him and said we need something to do on weekends now which filled me with joy.
I have never seen him this excited since he was a little boy waiting to see Harvey outside the club shop. Without sounding too cliche here (and sorry for rambling on) but blimey..
We really do have our Charlton back.
Although, it’s going to be incredibly awkward asking you for your share now.11 -
I'm always happy Bob.bobmunro said:
Henners won't be happy!soapy_jones said:A new Takeover thread for a new regime?
Jealous people always want this thread closed but they still read it and post on it.soapy_jones said:A new Takeover thread for a new regime?
It's seen off so many pale copies as well as the "bite-sized" thread that I had to write as well.
Long live the Greatest Thread of All Time.
If the takeover is confirmed this thread can had a rest for a few years/decades but it will always be there as the definitive historic record of the last few years.3 -
Haven’t you realised by now there are only two choices:J BLOCK said:I don't get why people are worried, it will go through fine and they have lots of money. Don't panic.
1. Panic, it’s dragged on too long, it’s Zabeel all over again, it won’t happen.
2. We’re the richest club in the world!! Ensure all Champions League match days are kept clear from births, weddings, holidays etc.8 -
Can you confirm @Henry Irving that you’ve sold the rights of this thread to amazon and it’s to be released on Kindle any day? 😉6
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Agree and agree with what Bob Munro said a page or so back. They know they are going to get approval which is why they announced it. May even be tomorrow which would be nicely symbolic.J BLOCK said:I don't get why people are worried, it will go through fine and they have lots of money. Don't panic.As for what they are going to put in, as I have mentioned on other threads, personally I don’t necessarily think it needs, nor do I want millions and millions. I have absolutely no idea about what they tend to do to make us profitable, given that we lose the money we lose. I have no idea what they would be willing to invest to get to the Prem, given this has already cost £60m (some of which I am sure will be deferred until we get into the prem). Football is a financial black hole unless you operate at the very top end of the game, and I mean the very top. Clubs like Burnley are anomalies given how prudent they have been, I would like to emulate them. All the other clubs that are in the Prem, have healthy TV money, but I would imagine are very reliant on staying there, or feeling the cold chill of heavy debt catching up with them.
I think clubs like Derby are mental. Paying Rooney whatever they’re paying him to be involved, selling their ground and splashing out millions on single players is not the future I want.I can’t second guess how galatico Nimer will want to be, but I do know that if he gives Bowyer and team long term deals, with a bit of money to spend, then we might just have as much a chance of going up as anyone, given how tight the championship is. Look at Sheff Utd last year.I’m amazed more and more clubs don’t start to try and copy that blueprint15 -
Sod Kindle, I'm over in Hollywood selling the film rights. Clint Eastwood is going to play you @T_C_ET_C_E said:Can you confirm @Henry Irving that you’ve sold the rights of this thread to amazon and it’s to be released on Kindle any day? 😉5 -
Agreed.cabbles said:
Agree and agree with what Bob Munro said a page or so back. They know they are going to get approval which is why they announced it. May even be tomorrow which would be nicely symbolic.J BLOCK said:I don't get why people are worried, it will go through fine and they have lots of money. Don't panic.As for what they are going to put in, as I have mentioned on other threads, personally I don’t necessarily think it needs, nor do I want millions and millions. I have absolutely no idea about what they tend to do to make us profitable, given that we lose the money we lose. I have no idea what they would be willing to invest to get to the Prem, given this has already cost £60m (some of which I am sure will be deferred until we get into the prem). Football is a financial black hole unless you operate at the very top end of the game, and I mean the very top. Clubs like Burnley are anomalies given how prudent they have been, I would like to emulate them. All the other clubs that are in the Prem, have healthy TV money, but I would imagine are very reliant on staying there, or feeling the cold chill of heavy debt catching up with them.
I think clubs like Derby are mental. Paying Rooney whatever they’re paying him to be involved, selling their ground and splashing out millions on single players is not the future I want.I can’t second guess how galatico Nimer will want to be, but I do know that if he gives Bowyer and team long term deals, with a bit of money to spend, then we might just have as much a chance of going up as anyone, given how tight the championship is. Look at Sheff Utd last year.I’m amazed more and more clubs don’t start to try and copy that blueprint
Actually sod that, if we haven't won the champions league by 2022 then Nimer Out! 1 -
Would be happy to see the film/book of counting down the days till he sold the club threadHenry Irving said:
Sod Kindle, I'm over in Hollywood selling the film rights. Clint Eastwood is going to play you @T_C_ET_C_E said:Can you confirm @Henry Irving that you’ve sold the rights of this thread to amazon and it’s to be released on Kindle any day? 😉 2 -
Tom Hanks playing you, Henry? He's certainly got the look!Henry Irving said:
Sod Kindle, I'm over in Hollywood selling the film rights. Clint Eastwood is going to play you @T_C_ET_C_E said:Can you confirm @Henry Irving that you’ve sold the rights of this thread to amazon and it’s to be released on Kindle any day? 😉
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I am.Curb_It said:
Are you really his son or is this a jokey wind up comment?Addick_8 said:
Thanks Dad.CharltonByBlood said:I've been over the moon since the take but it really hit home this morning and here's why:
My son has been playing semi professional football for the last 10 years even though he is in his mid 20's I still go to watch him most weeks and have done since he was 7.
When he has not had a game or been injured we go to the games when we can, home or away. Including weeknights. He's a huge chatlton fan and has band since he was 5 years old (infact this was in account a few years ago!) I'm in my 60s now and don't have many charlton friends in essex, so my son had no choice really growing up!
Over the last 2 years he has struggled terribly with injuries and struggled to get fit but when he is fit he is one of the first names on the team sheet and he lives for his football.
Over the last 2 years he has thought about packing it in full time and getting his Saturdays back but said he would never buy a season ticket under RD. He just couldn't stomach it. He would not at buy tickets from his friends or begrudgingly from the club.
Yestersay he played a game which they won 4-0 and he scored the 4th. This morning he officially quit his team. Retired as such as he feels his body can not take it anymore and when he told me he didn't seem too gutted which took my by surprise.
Then pulled out an email confirmation of 2 half season tickets in the west lower for me and him and said we need something to do on weekends now which filled me with joy.
I have never seen him this excited since he was a little boy waiting to see Harvey outside the club shop. Without sounding too cliche here (and sorry for rambling on) but blimey..
We really do have our Charlton back.
Although, it’s going to be incredibly awkward asking you for your share now.
He is on my original account I made when I was around 19/20. I won’t too post much.
I used to read frequently without an account but thought it was time to get involved
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