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Gonna sound like I’ve a massive chip on my shoulder....

AFKABartram
AFKABartram Posts: 57,840
in General Charlton
but I’ve been joking for games, if we are losing a game there’s 2-3 mins extra time, if we are winning then it’s 5-7 mins.

i swear it’s been happening

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  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,668
    Yes, spot on.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    At the moment, it doesn't matter how long extra time is, we're bound to concede.

    Payback for Bauers goal at Wembley,

    I can take that.
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,737
    that 3 minutes at luton was a bloody piss take 
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,040
    Curbs got his teams to play for 50 minutes a half.
    Is it a fitness issue?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,464
    edited December 2019
    Using the live text section from the BBC website, the following minutes have been played in each game

    Bold are those that we won, italics are the games we were already losing before injury time

    4mins: Huddersfield; Luton; Wigan; Stoke
    5mins: Middlesbrough; Sheff Wed; Millwall; Derby; Brentford
    6mins: Hull; Leeds; Reading; Nottm Forest; Barnsley
    7mins: Swansea; Blackburn
    8mins: Cardiff; West Brom; Birmingham
    9mins: Preston; Fulham
    10mins: Bristol City
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,496
    edited December 2019
    iainment said:
    Curbs got his teams to play for 50 minutes a half.
    Is it a fitness issue?
    Let's not forget we can barely rotate at the moment. No surprise if the players are more tired than usual.
  • EricBanterna
    EricBanterna Posts: 1,740
    Swings and roundabouts, how many points have we got where we didn't deserve them. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,464
    EricBanterna said:
    Swings and roundabouts, how many points have we got where we didn't deserve them. 
    Not going to sound like I've a chip on my shoulder but looking at results cant think of many occasions where that has happened

    West Brom penalty is probably the one I'd say was a bit lucky for us; whereas on the otherhand

    Fulham: Mitrovic offside (2nd goal)
    Luton: Collins (?) interferring with play (1st goal)
    Luton: Izzy Brown Handball (2nd goal)
    Nottingham Forest: Ameobi shouldnt have been on the pitch (assist for goal)
    Preston: Penalty (Referee had let that type of foul go all game)

    Wigan and Birmingham are the two real games where I feel we've deserved to be beaten
  • Rossman92
    Rossman92 Posts: 3,653
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Using the live text section from the BBC website, the following minutes have been played in each game

    Bold are those that we won, italics are the games we were already losing before injury time

    4mins: Huddersfield; Luton; Wigan; Stoke
    5mins: Middlesbrough; Sheff Wed; Millwall; Derby; Brentford
    6mins: Hull; Leeds; Reading; Nottm Forest; Barnsley
    7mins: Swansea; Blackburn
    8mins: Cardiff; West Brom; Birmingham
    9mins: Preston; Fulham
    10mins: Bristol City
    Bristol City literally makes me wanna puke 
  • EricBanterna
    EricBanterna Posts: 1,740
    ForeverAddickted said:
    EricBanterna said:
    Swings and roundabouts, how many points have we got where we didn't deserve them. 
    Not going to sound like I've a chip on my shoulder but looking at results cant think of many occasions where that has happened

    West Brom penalty is probably the one I'd say was a bit lucky for us; whereas on the otherhand

    Fulham: Mitrovic offside (2nd goal)
    Luton: Collins (?) interferring with play (1st goal)
    Luton: Izzy Brown Handball (2nd goal)
    Nottingham Forest: Ameobi shouldnt have been on the pitch (assist for goal)
    Preston: Penalty (Referee had let that type of foul go all game)

    Wigan and Birmingham are the two real games where I feel we've deserved to be beaten
    Barnsley we got a point, Leeds and Brentford 3 points. And I even say Blackburn was lucky 3 points. And I've been all those game. Maybe I'm pessimistic but we didn't deserve does points 

    Look back at many other game, Dillon Phillips has made some very good saves.

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  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,161
    @AFKABartram you've got a chip on your shoulder, I've had a bee in my bonnet for years, about the same issue. Hope it does not seem too self-regarding to re-post my comments from the match thread: 

    Five minutes of injury time were announced. They scored on 95.20. We lost to Bristol City in the 6th minute of "4 minutes" of injury time. @oohaahmortimer has mentioned events in injury time tonight that *may* have caused the ref to add on more time. But the point is, we don't know. We don't know either if the ref made similar time allowances for similar incidents throughout the game. We have a billion pound industry running on the whims of individuals, who, unlike players and managers, are not held accountable for their decisions.

    It could be different. If, as in ice hockey, the clock was controlled by another official, and the whole stadium knows he has stopped it, and when the game stops when a siren sounds wherever the puck/ball happens to be, and not because the refs want to see happens to an interesting attack, then we would know exactly where we all stand, players and fans. 

    Of course this is an issue for all clubs and fans, and the system i describe might have stopped the game just as Josh Cullen's cross arced across Wembley. But it has to be better than this amateurish, whimsical, Hackney Marshes approach to operating a professional business.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Before the board went up me and my brother said "it will probably be 5, but it should be about 7".  5 subs, 2 goals, the stoppage for their striker, a head injury, what ever it was Leko did, Taylor's knee etc.

    There is never enough time added.  

    Don't want to make this just about tonight or even our season but there needs to be more transparency about why time is or isn't added on. 

    Maybe make it 60 minutes rather than 90 but stop the clock every time play is stoped? 


  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,367
    iainment said:
    Curbs got his teams to play for 50 minutes a half.
    Is it a fitness issue?
    iainment said:
    Curbs got his teams to play for 50 minutes a half.
    Is it a fitness issue?

    more in the mind .. right at the end of games the team just panics and has a  collective brain freeze .. to state the obvious, we concede SOOOO many late goals because the players are so worried, any semblance of game management just disappears .. e.g. the  pen against Huddersfield and last night the concession of a totally unnecessary free kick right at the very end. Sort it out chaps
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,464
    EricBanterna said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    EricBanterna said:
    Swings and roundabouts, how many points have we got where we didn't deserve them. 
    Not going to sound like I've a chip on my shoulder but looking at results cant think of many occasions where that has happened

    West Brom penalty is probably the one I'd say was a bit lucky for us; whereas on the otherhand

    Fulham: Mitrovic offside (2nd goal)
    Luton: Collins (?) interferring with play (1st goal)
    Luton: Izzy Brown Handball (2nd goal)
    Nottingham Forest: Ameobi shouldnt have been on the pitch (assist for goal)
    Preston: Penalty (Referee had let that type of foul go all game)

    Wigan and Birmingham are the two real games where I feel we've deserved to be beaten
    Barnsley we got a point, Leeds and Brentford 3 points. And I even say Blackburn was lucky 3 points. And I've been all those game. Maybe I'm pessimistic but we didn't deserve does points 

    Look back at many other game, Dillon Phillips has made some very good saves.
    But there is a difference being lucky (where every block comes off or the opposing strikers are off) and the sort of luck I mention where we got shafted by the officials
  • EveshamAddick
    EveshamAddick Posts: 7,021
    ForeverAddickted said:
    EricBanterna said:
    Swings and roundabouts, how many points have we got where we didn't deserve them. 
    Not going to sound like I've a chip on my shoulder but looking at results cant think of many occasions where that has happened

    West Brom penalty is probably the one I'd say was a bit lucky for us; whereas on the otherhand

    Fulham: Mitrovic offside (2nd goal)
    Luton: Collins (?) interferring with play (1st goal)
    Luton: Izzy Brown Handball (2nd goal)
    Nottingham Forest: Ameobi shouldnt have been on the pitch (assist for goal)
    Preston: Penalty (Referee had let that type of foul go all game)

    Wigan and Birmingham are the two real games where I feel we've deserved to be beaten
    There was also the Kanu handball before his goal in the West Brom game.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,464
    EveshamAddick said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    EricBanterna said:
    Swings and roundabouts, how many points have we got where we didn't deserve them. 
    Not going to sound like I've a chip on my shoulder but looking at results cant think of many occasions where that has happened

    West Brom penalty is probably the one I'd say was a bit lucky for us; whereas on the otherhand

    Fulham: Mitrovic offside (2nd goal)
    Luton: Collins (?) interferring with play (1st goal)
    Luton: Izzy Brown Handball (2nd goal)
    Nottingham Forest: Ameobi shouldnt have been on the pitch (assist for goal)
    Preston: Penalty (Referee had let that type of foul go all game)

    Wigan and Birmingham are the two real games where I feel we've deserved to be beaten
    There was also the Kanu handball before his goal in the West Brom game.
    Yeah good point forgot that one

    Although feel it good evened out with the penalty
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,901
    It's a football cliche, but winning teams gets the good luck and losing teams the bad luck...
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,282
    The fault lies with me.  Been to 6 games this season and the record is : 

    Won 1
    Lost 4
    Drawn 1

    Of those we have let in last minute goals in 3 and been winning in 4

    Huddersfield.  Preston.  Bristol City. Hull. Stoke. Swansea. 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,687
    Athletico Charlton said:
    The fault lies with me.  Been to 6 games this season and the record is : 

    Won 1
    Lost 4
    Drawn 1

    Of those we have let in last minute goals in 3 and been winning in 4

    Huddersfield.  Preston.  Bristol City. Hull. Stoke. Swansea. 
    Do us a favour mate.
    Buy a season ticket at palarse. 
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,040
    Lincsaddick said:
    iainment said:
    Curbs got his teams to play for 50 minutes a half.
    Is it a fitness issue?
    iainment said:
    Curbs got his teams to play for 50 minutes a half.
    Is it a fitness issue?

    more in the mind .. right at the end of games the team just panics and has a  collective brain freeze .. to state the obvious, we concede SOOOO many late goals because the players are so worried, any semblance of game management just disappears .. e.g. the  pen against Huddersfield and last night the concession of a totally unnecessary free kick right at the very end. Sort it out chaps
    If you’re a fitter team though there’s less need to panic.

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  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,813
    Refs in the Premier League and Championship wear connected smart watches that could talk to a stadium clock, footballs unwillingness to do anything about it is odd 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    To be fair changing a game of football from 90 minutes to 60 minutes is a massive change. 

    I get where people are coming from but it massively changes the dynamics and I just can’t see anything like that even being considered. Of course it’s frustrating when you suffer but we can’t start blaming the injury time. 

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