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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469
    God bless Mr Grapevine
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,835
    Dazzler21 said:
    JoshAddick said:
    Moved closer but not a done deal yet according to Rich Cawley

    A typical holding comment really (from ESI not Cawley). A more eye opening comment would have been that the deal had moved further away, but they would hardly say that!

    The reality of the situation is that the deal is (a) being evaluated, (b) rejected or (c) approved, there's no % scale of EFL approval - "we're 0% approved, and expect to get another 9% tomorrow", and we shouldn't expect to be given such a detailed running commentary either.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,729
    edited December 2019
    @grapevine "Tell me how his standing, beyond his personal life in which I have no interest, differs in anyway with any CEO the club has had over the past 10yrs."

    The CEO until July 2012 was Steve Kavanagh, who is and was a qualified accountant and had worked as the club's finance director since 2001.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    Some of you really need to get out more. 
  • FAVADDICK
    FAVADDICK Posts: 584
    My god I hope some of you are going to cheer up and get a life in 2020 !!! How the hell can you judge something that hasn't even happened yet 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Airman Brown said:
    @grapevine "Tell me how his standing, beyond his personal life in which I have no interest, differs in anyway with any CEO the club has had over the past 10yrs."

    The CEO until July 2012 was Steve Kavanagh, who is and was a qualified accountant and had worked as the club's finance director since 2001.
    @Airman Brown your probably best placed to answer this.  How complex is the proper running of a football club?

    The impression I have is that it's quite a simple business?   You only really have a small range of products, 1 or 2 sites of operation. Your revenue streams are quite basic in structure, if not value.  The none football side of it is, relatively, a small business.  Even the separate business units such as ticketing, catering, hospitality and comms aren't big compared to similar industries.

    I understand how a bad CEO, chief executive, chair or what ever title is given to the person running a club, can have a negative effect but it doesn't sound to me like you need to be that qualified or experienced to be able to do a good job. 
  • Taxi_Lad
    Taxi_Lad Posts: 3,766
    Missed It said: join
    Airman Brown said:
    Missed It said:
    Seems to me that Cawley would be better keeping his yap shut than posting something as annoyingly vague and contradictory as that. 

    I really wish twitter would go away.  
    Do you not understand that this is what ESI have told him? If it’s “vague and contradictory” and that’s an issue for you then the fault lies elsewhere.
    This why twitter is so rubbish in these situations.  When we all want is clarity and some sort of explanation all we get is 140 characters.  How is that tweet helpful or revealing new info in a useful context?

    Grapevine49  doesn’t use Twitter 
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 33,991
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Airman Brown said:
    @grapevine "Tell me how his standing, beyond his personal life in which I have no interest, differs in anyway with any CEO the club has had over the past 10yrs."

    The CEO until July 2012 was Steve Kavanagh, who is and was a qualified accountant and had worked as the club's finance director since 2001.
    @Airman Brown your probably best placed to answer this.  How complex is the proper running of a football club?

    The impression I have is that it's quite a simple business?   You only really have a small range of products, 1 or 2 sites of operation. Your revenue streams are quite basic in structure, if not value.  The none football side of it is, relatively, a small business.  Even the separate business units such as ticketing, catering, hospitality and comms aren't big compared to similar industries.

    I understand how a bad CEO, chief executive, chair or what ever title is given to the person running a club, can have a negative effect but it doesn't sound to me like you need to be that qualified or experienced to be able to do a good job. 
    Good question. 
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.


  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    That's better 
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  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,893
    Missed It said:
    Airman Brown said:
    Missed It said:
    Seems to me that Cawley would be better keeping his yap shut than posting something as annoyingly vague and contradictory as that. 

    I really wish twitter would go away.  
    Do you not understand that this is what ESI have told him? If it’s “vague and contradictory” and that’s an issue for you then the fault lies elsewhere.
    This why twitter is so rubbish in these situations.  When we all want is clarity and some sort of explanation all we get is 140 characters.  How is that tweet helpful or revealing new info in a useful context?
    cawleys tweet is probably useful news to a lot of people - to some on this forum its days old info and adds nothing - this forum is blessed with posters who are at the cutting edge of the latest news and try to pass that on despite being asked not to a lot of the time - there's also a few who can't stand not being in the loop and make themselves look like complete prats - the main one was dug out beautifully earlier for that and rightly so  
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,820
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Airman Brown said:
    @grapevine "Tell me how his standing, beyond his personal life in which I have no interest, differs in anyway with any CEO the club has had over the past 10yrs."

    The CEO until July 2012 was Steve Kavanagh, who is and was a qualified accountant and had worked as the club's finance director since 2001.
    @Airman Brown your probably best placed to answer this.  How complex is the proper running of a football club?

    The impression I have is that it's quite a simple business?   You only really have a small range of products, 1 or 2 sites of operation. Your revenue streams are quite basic in structure, if not value.  The none football side of it is, relatively, a small business.  Even the separate business units such as ticketing, catering, hospitality and comms aren't big compared to similar industries.

    I understand how a bad CEO, chief executive, chair or what ever title is given to the person running a club, can have a negative effect but it doesn't sound to me like you need to be that qualified or experienced to be able to do a good job. 
    I’d say the opposite. You are running a multi-million pound business under intense public scrutiny.

    The impact on the business of things going well / badly (virtually completely driven by the success of the football component) is enormous. 
  • DPFC
    DPFC Posts: 320
    Is it about time we ALL started to email the EFL asking them to get a move on.
    if they were deluged maybe they would get their finger out and complete the process way or other
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,238
    DPFC said:
    Is it about time we ALL started to email the EFL asking them to get a move on.
    if they were deluged maybe they would get their finger out and complete the process way or other
    Wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference
  • Taxi_Lad
    Taxi_Lad Posts: 3,766
    DOUCHER said:
    Missed It said:
    Airman Brown said:
    Missed It said:
    Seems to me that Cawley would be better keeping his yap shut than posting something as annoyingly vague and contradictory as that. 

    I really wish twitter would go away.  
    Do you not understand that this is what ESI have told him? If it’s “vague and contradictory” and that’s an issue for you then the fault lies elsewhere.
    This why twitter is so rubbish in these situations.  When we all want is clarity and some sort of explanation all we get is 140 characters.  How is that tweet helpful or revealing new info in a useful context?
    cawleys tweet is probably useful news to a lot of people - to some on this forum its days old info and adds nothing - this forum is blessed with posters who are at the cutting edge of the latest news and try to pass that on despite being asked not to a lot of the time - there's also a few who can't stand not being in the loop and make themselves look like complete prats - the main one was dug out beautifully earlier for that and rightly so  
    Now Now @D@DOUCHER

    dont be bitchy


  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    AFKABartram said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Airman Brown said:
    @grapevine "Tell me how his standing, beyond his personal life in which I have no interest, differs in anyway with any CEO the club has had over the past 10yrs."

    The CEO until July 2012 was Steve Kavanagh, who is and was a qualified accountant and had worked as the club's finance director since 2001.
    @Airman Brown your probably best placed to answer this.  How complex is the proper running of a football club?

    The impression I have is that it's quite a simple business?   You only really have a small range of products, 1 or 2 sites of operation. Your revenue streams are quite basic in structure, if not value.  The none football side of it is, relatively, a small business.  Even the separate business units such as ticketing, catering, hospitality and comms aren't big compared to similar industries.

    I understand how a bad CEO, chief executive, chair or what ever title is given to the person running a club, can have a negative effect but it doesn't sound to me like you need to be that qualified or experienced to be able to do a good job. 
    I’d say the opposite. You are running a multi-million pound business under intense public scrutiny.

    The impact on the business of things going well / badly (virtually completely driven by the success of the football component) is enormous. 
    I would say its high pressure as you rightly say.  But it's pretty simplistic compared to other organisations with such a high turnover? 
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 33,991
    AFKABartram said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Airman Brown said:
    @grapevine "Tell me how his standing, beyond his personal life in which I have no interest, differs in anyway with any CEO the club has had over the past 10yrs."

    The CEO until July 2012 was Steve Kavanagh, who is and was a qualified accountant and had worked as the club's finance director since 2001.
    @Airman Brown your probably best placed to answer this.  How complex is the proper running of a football club?

    The impression I have is that it's quite a simple business?   You only really have a small range of products, 1 or 2 sites of operation. Your revenue streams are quite basic in structure, if not value.  The none football side of it is, relatively, a small business.  Even the separate business units such as ticketing, catering, hospitality and comms aren't big compared to similar industries.

    I understand how a bad CEO, chief executive, chair or what ever title is given to the person running a club, can have a negative effect but it doesn't sound to me like you need to be that qualified or experienced to be able to do a good job. 
    I’d say the opposite. You are running a multi-million pound business under intense public scrutiny.

    The impact on the business of things going well / badly (virtually completely driven by the success of the football component) is enormous. 
    It certainly appears that having no CEO is far better than having a bad one. 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,840
    AFKABartram said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Airman Brown said:
    @grapevine "Tell me how his standing, beyond his personal life in which I have no interest, differs in anyway with any CEO the club has had over the past 10yrs."

    The CEO until July 2012 was Steve Kavanagh, who is and was a qualified accountant and had worked as the club's finance director since 2001.
    @Airman Brown your probably best placed to answer this.  How complex is the proper running of a football club?

    The impression I have is that it's quite a simple business?   You only really have a small range of products, 1 or 2 sites of operation. Your revenue streams are quite basic in structure, if not value.  The none football side of it is, relatively, a small business.  Even the separate business units such as ticketing, catering, hospitality and comms aren't big compared to similar industries.

    I understand how a bad CEO, chief executive, chair or what ever title is given to the person running a club, can have a negative effect but it doesn't sound to me like you need to be that qualified or experienced to be able to do a good job. 
    I’d say the opposite. You are running a multi-million pound business under intense public scrutiny.

    The impact on the business of things going well / badly (virtually completely driven by the success of the football component) is enormous. 
    It’s not the opposite at all - a professional football club really is a very simple business to run in comparison to some others. I see both extremes of complexity - bet365 is devilishly difficult to run as it is so complex with very many moving parts - the football club is a walk in the park by comparison.

    The biggest issue, as you say, is that pretty much every medium to long-term decision is based on the consequence of a series of football results!
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,893
    Taxi_Lad said:
    DOUCHER said:
    Missed It said:
    Airman Brown said:
    Missed It said:
    Seems to me that Cawley would be better keeping his yap shut than posting something as annoyingly vague and contradictory as that. 

    I really wish twitter would go away.  
    Do you not understand that this is what ESI have told him? If it’s “vague and contradictory” and that’s an issue for you then the fault lies elsewhere.
    This why twitter is so rubbish in these situations.  When we all want is clarity and some sort of explanation all we get is 140 characters.  How is that tweet helpful or revealing new info in a useful context?
    cawleys tweet is probably useful news to a lot of people - to some on this forum its days old info and adds nothing - this forum is blessed with posters who are at the cutting edge of the latest news and try to pass that on despite being asked not to a lot of the time - there's also a few who can't stand not being in the loop and make themselves look like complete prats - the main one was dug out beautifully earlier for that and rightly so  
    Now Now @D@DOUCHER

    dont be bitchy


    sorry, you're right, i shouldn't be but where's the fun in that?   
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,614
    i_b_b_o_r_g said:
    https://youtu.be/wPnhaGWBnys
    Wont be singing that tonight. Hijacked by the Labour Party so they're welcome to it.

    Oh, and its Scottish. When they leave the Union for the EU they can whistle as well.

    Happy New year to one & all.....😃


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  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,804
    bobmunro said:
    AFKABartram said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Airman Brown said:
    @grapevine "Tell me how his standing, beyond his personal life in which I have no interest, differs in anyway with any CEO the club has had over the past 10yrs."

    The CEO until July 2012 was Steve Kavanagh, who is and was a qualified accountant and had worked as the club's finance director since 2001.
    @Airman Brown your probably best placed to answer this.  How complex is the proper running of a football club?

    The impression I have is that it's quite a simple business?   You only really have a small range of products, 1 or 2 sites of operation. Your revenue streams are quite basic in structure, if not value.  The none football side of it is, relatively, a small business.  Even the separate business units such as ticketing, catering, hospitality and comms aren't big compared to similar industries.

    I understand how a bad CEO, chief executive, chair or what ever title is given to the person running a club, can have a negative effect but it doesn't sound to me like you need to be that qualified or experienced to be able to do a good job. 
    I’d say the opposite. You are running a multi-million pound business under intense public scrutiny.

    The impact on the business of things going well / badly (virtually completely driven by the success of the football component) is enormous. 
    It’s not the opposite at all - a professional football club really is a very simple business to run in comparison to some others. I see both extremes of complexity - bet365 is devilishly difficult to run as it is so complex with very many moving parts - the football club is a walk in the park by comparison.

    The biggest issue, as you say, is that pretty much every medium to long-term decision is based on the consequence of a series of football results!
    A bit like losing your shirt at the bookies?
  • TheAddicks4Ever
    TheAddicks4Ever Posts: 437
    Tahnoon wishes a happy new year “The best is still to come” let’s hope so 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,893
    i'd say a background as an agent is probably the perfect grounding to become a football chairman - the business revolves around the main assets and buying and selling them - the players. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,238
    Does that say "ADBD, the best is yet to come"
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    DOUCHER said:
    i'd say a background as an agent is probably the perfect grounding to become a football chairman - the business revolves around the main assets and buying and selling them - the players. 
    Hmmm not so sure, a layman who thinks they know more than the people they employ to run the football side is a very dangerous thing. 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,893
    Cafc43v3r said:
    DOUCHER said:
    i'd say a background as an agent is probably the perfect grounding to become a football chairman - the business revolves around the main assets and buying and selling them - the players. 
    Hmmm not so sure, a layman who thinks they know more than the people they employ to run the football side is a very dangerous thing. 
    could be, we will have to see -  but a working knowledge of the business should be a huge asset 
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,453
    sam3110 said:
    Does that say "ADBD, the best is yet to come"
     No. You're seeing things.
    We are absolutely nothing to do with a business entity that basically looks after a member of the Abu Dhabi royal families business interests. Nothing.

    We just happen to have the CEO and chairman of said business entity on our board ( subject to EFL approval). Completely unrelated.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    DOUCHER said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    DOUCHER said:
    i'd say a background as an agent is probably the perfect grounding to become a football chairman - the business revolves around the main assets and buying and selling them - the players. 
    Hmmm not so sure, a layman who thinks they know more than the people they employ to run the football side is a very dangerous thing. 
    could be, we will have to see -  but a working knowledge of the business should be a huge asset 
    And how did the previous ex agent the club employed to over see transfers work out? 
  • Ducktapeshoerepairs
    Ducktapeshoerepairs Posts: 969
    DOUCHER said:
    i'd say a background as an agent is probably the perfect grounding to become a football chairman - the business revolves around the main assets and buying and selling them - the players. 
    Two entirely different positions. I wouldn’t trust an ex football agent to do anything. Especially one no one has ever heard of ! 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448

    The absolute clearest clue as to when the announcement will happen. 

    During the shuttle runs pre West Brom at home in the FA Cup.

    The Best Is Yet To Come

    Out of the tree of life I just picked me a plum
    You came along and everything started'in to hum
    Still it's a real good bet
    The best is yet to come

    Best is yet to come and babe won't that be fine
    You think you've seen the sun
    But you ain't seen it shine

    A wait til the warm up's under way
    Wait til our lips have met
    And wait til you see that sunshine day
    You ain't seen nothing yet

    The best is yet to come
    And babe won't it be fine
    Best is yet to come,
    Come the day you're mine

    Come the day you're mine
    I'm gonna teach you to fly
    We've only tasted the wine
    We're gonna drain the cup dry

    Wait til your charms are right for these arms, to surround
    You think you've flown before
    But baby you ain't left the ground

    Wait till you're locked in my embrace
    Wait til I draw you near
    And wait til you see that sunshine place
    Ain't nothing like it here

    The best is yet to come
    And babe won't it be fine
    The best is yet to come,
    Come the day you're mine
    Come the day you're mine
    And you're gonna be mine
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