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Tahnoon Nimer: We’ll use technology to help make Charlton Athletic stronger – we have five-year plan

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,335
    stonemuse said:
    Didn't know Nimer is Syrian.

    How is he "His Excellency" if not from the UAE.
    Not convinced he is Syrian, was sure he was born in the UAE but can’t find proof. 
     on the bio given at take over he was born in the UEA (see what I did there) but on companies house he has a slightly different name and is Syrian.

    So is it the same person and if so why the discrepancy?  If not, who is the other person?

    Not starting a conspiracy theory, just wondering.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,374
    stonemuse said:
    Didn't know Nimer is Syrian.

    How is he "His Excellency" if not from the UAE.
    Not convinced he is Syrian, was sure he was born in the UAE but can’t find proof. 
     on the bio given at take over he was born in the UEA (see what I did there) but on companies house he has a slightly different name and is Syrian.

    So is it the same person and if so why the discrepancy?  If not, who is the other person?

    Not starting a conspiracy theory, just wondering.
    Yes.  You got UAE wrong. 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,412
    All this complaining saying ESI are all talk, no action. 
     
    Roland was no talk, but action bringing in players like Parzyszek, Thuram and Koc. 

    Id rather ESI keep talking and also be smart about new signings, than bring in mediocre, borderline amateur footballers into our squad. 
    There is a massive difference in ESI coming in and signing the proven English league players than a bunch of unknowns. Not one player we have been seriously linked with is an amateur and I believe there lies the problem.

    I would rather they concentrate on the most important thing first. Less talking, more helping out the bloke who got us out of that league
  • Missed It
    Missed It Posts: 2,735
    Hex said:
    I am sure bringing in expert medical advice can only be a good thing but I didn’t know UAE was a centre of excellence for sports medicine and in particular football injuries.
    Indeed, and waiting 3 weeks to send in the UAE medics hasn't cured anybody either
  • Hex said:
    I am sure bringing in expert medical advice can only be a good thing but I didn’t know UAE was a centre of excellence for sports medicine and in particular football injuries.
    And hard to believe you can find better general expertise there than say Harley Street anyway
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,335
    Chizz said:
    stonemuse said:
    Didn't know Nimer is Syrian.

    How is he "His Excellency" if not from the UAE.
    Not convinced he is Syrian, was sure he was born in the UAE but can’t find proof. 
     on the bio given at take over he was born in the UEA (see what I did there) but on companies house he has a slightly different name and is Syrian.

    So is it the same person and if so why the discrepancy?  If not, who is the other person?

    Not starting a conspiracy theory, just wondering.
    Yes.  You got UAE wrong. 
    Whooosh

    😊
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,035
    edited January 2020
    Chizz said:
    Why does it matter whether he's Syrian?
    It doesn’t matter. It’s just normal for people to want to know more about someone. The first thing mentioned about nearly every person on a Wikipedia profile is when and where they were born. There’s nothing malicious about wanting to know what nationality someone is.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,374
    Chizz said:
    Why does it matter whether he's Syrian?
    It doesn’t matter. It’s just normal for people to want to know more about someone. The first thing mentioned about nearly every person on a Wikipedia profile is when and where they were born. There’s nothing malicious about wanting to know what nationality someone is.
    I am not suggesting there's anything malicious. I was interested to know whether it's in any way relevant: but, thank you, it's obviously not. 
  • Gillis
    Gillis Posts: 998
    edited January 2020
    stonemuse said:
    Didn't know Nimer is Syrian.

    How is he "His Excellency" if not from the UAE.
    Not convinced he is Syrian, was sure he was born in the UAE but can’t find proof. 
     on the bio given at take over he was born in the UEA (see what I did there) but on companies house he has a slightly different name and is Syrian.

    So is it the same person and if so why the discrepancy?  If not, who is the other person?

    Not starting a conspiracy theory, just wondering.
    No idea if it's the same person or not, but it's possible that he's a Syrian national who was born in the UAE.

    On the subject of the title, this is from LinkedIn (the wording is a bit muddled in places):

     "There are exceptions, but in general you can distinguish between those who are royal and those who are not in Middle eastern Royalty simply by the letter preceding their name: H.H.: His Highness - i.e. he is royal. H.E.: His excellency - i.e. he is or has been a senior government appointee (like an ambassador or government minister, though often they can also be royals)."

    Also, this story, although not directly relevant, refers to a Sheikh in Dubai conferring the title His Excellency on someone by decree:


    So it may be the case that he's received the title as a result of his work, and nationality isn't a factor. I'm sure one of our UAE-based posters will know better, and can give a more definitive explanation.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,922
    Chizz said:
    Chizz said:
    Why does it matter whether he's Syrian?
    It doesn’t matter. It’s just normal for people to want to know more about someone. The first thing mentioned about nearly every person on a Wikipedia profile is when and where they were born. There’s nothing malicious about wanting to know what nationality someone is.
    I am not suggesting there's anything malicious. I was interested to know whether it's in any way relevant: but, thank you, it's obviously not. 
    Well if your daughter was marrying a Scottish bloke called Richard Johnstone and after they married it turned out his real name was Richard O’Neill and was born in Ireland, you’d be a bit intrigued to understand more, wouldn’t you?

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  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Never mind a 5 year plan, what’s the next 5 month plan? 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Never mind a 5 year plan, what’s the next 5 month plan? 
    More to the point, how will they deal with the critical next 14 days???! 
  • Chizz said:
    Chizz said:
    Why does it matter whether he's Syrian?
    It doesn’t matter. It’s just normal for people to want to know more about someone. The first thing mentioned about nearly every person on a Wikipedia profile is when and where they were born. There’s nothing malicious about wanting to know what nationality someone is.
    I am not suggesting there's anything malicious. I was interested to know whether it's in any way relevant: but, thank you, it's obviously not. 
    Well if your daughter was marrying a Scottish bloke called Richard Johnstone and after they married it turned out his real name was Richard O’Neill and was born in Ireland, you’d be a bit intrigued to understand more, wouldn’t you?
    Do you see CAFC as your unmarried daughter?  You ok hun?

    ;) 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,374
    Chizz said:
    Chizz said:
    Why does it matter whether he's Syrian?
    It doesn’t matter. It’s just normal for people to want to know more about someone. The first thing mentioned about nearly every person on a Wikipedia profile is when and where they were born. There’s nothing malicious about wanting to know what nationality someone is.
    I am not suggesting there's anything malicious. I was interested to know whether it's in any way relevant: but, thank you, it's obviously not. 
    Well if your daughter was marrying a Scottish bloke called Richard Johnstone and after they married it turned out his real name was Richard O’Neill and was born in Ireland, you’d be a bit intrigued to understand more, wouldn’t you?
    Yes, maybe.  But I wanted to know why - or whether - it mattered.  For example, are there any reasons why a Syrian person might be restricted from doing business here, that someone from the UAE isn't; or are there trade embargoes that he's evaded by switching nationality? There are hundreds of Syrian people and dozens of Syrian organisations that are subject to financial sanctions by the UK Government. 

    I asked whether it mattered, because I don't know.  @ValleyGary has confirmed it doesn't. 
  • Gillis
    Gillis Posts: 998
    Reagarding Arabic naming conventions, this is from Wikipedia:

    "In Arabic culture, as in many parts of the world, a person's ancestry and family name are very important. An example is explained below.

    Assume a man is called Saleh ibn Tariq ibn Khalid al-Fulan.

    • Saleh is his personal name, and the one that his family and friends would call him by.
    • ibn translates as "son of", so Tariq is Saleh's father's name.
    • ibn Khalid means that Tariq is the son of Khalid, making Khalid the grandfather of Saleh.
    • al-Fulan would be Saleh's family name.

    Hence, Saleh ibn Tariq ibn Khalid al-Fulan translates as "Saleh, son of Tariq, son of Khalid; of the family al-Fulan.

    However, not all Arab countries use the name in its full length, but conventionally use two- and three-word names, and sometimes four-word names in official or legal matters. Thus the first name is the personal name, the middle name is the father's name and the last name is the family name."

    So, conceivably, 'Nimer' and 'Al Nasirat' are both parts of his full name. It may just be that the club are using one shortened version of it, and Companies House has used a different shortened version.

  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,035
    Rothko said:
    This is such a weird quiet Brexity discussion. 
    What does this even mean??
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,088
    Rothko said:
    This is such a weird quiet Brexity discussion. 
    Why?

    Technology? Race? Ownership? 
  • Never mind a 5 year plan, what’s the next 5 month plan? 
    Absolutely.

    I hope they know.
  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    Mate is the new in thing.Anything "weird" to The Woke has to be linked to Brexit.

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  • If you ha e ever had the pleasure of visiting man city training ground and understanding what they put into their set up if we go to that extreme we will be in a good place 
  • The first of, hopefully, many positive & encouraging statements from our owner.

    Shows that ESI acknowledge the huge impact that injuries have had on our season & that the issue  will be addressed sooner rather than later.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,224
    Never mind a 5 year plan, what’s the next 5 month plan? 
    This is Charlton Life we’re taking about.... what’s the next 5 minute plan?!?
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,242
    Never mind a 5 year plan, what’s the next 5 month plan? 
    Agree.
    Because if the next two weeks goes badly ?
    The 4 and a half year plan is how do we get back to the Championship. 
  • Chizz said:
    Why does it matter whether he's Syrian?
    He’s a closet WestHam fan
  • Sage said:
    This can only be good news.

    Medical team were hoping for an increase in budget when we got promoted, we all know that didn’t happen. You wouldn’t believe what they have to work with in comparison to other clubs in this league. It’s miles apart. Therefore, advancements in technology and further specialists to come in and assess the players is great news. They can run tests on them which we never would’ve been able to do before, and add that to the training ground development where I am sure they will make the medical and sports science department up to a very high standard. All of this can only be a good thing and positive for us moving forward.

    We need to find ways of developing our rehabilitation, recovery, strength, and conditioning. That’s not to say the people doing that now aren’t good enough, because they are. It’s to say the way football and sport in general is moving, it’s developing so fast that quite frankly, we have been left behind for a very long time. It’s been this way since before Roland was here and of course, all throughout it. That’s a lot to develop.

    We do need new players now but that’s extremely short-sighted. On the bigger picture of our club and the departments that run constantly through it, the development of medicine and sports science through extra specialist from the private clinics in UAE, advancements in technologies, and bringing ourselves to the front of development in this area is a huge step forward. I, for one, am very pleased to read this news today.
    I would imagine the medical facilities available at Charlton and what’s available to Premier League teams is very different. The players are the reason the club exists in the first place. Keeping players playing and in best possible condition is the key to success in every other area of the club. An upgrade to our skills in getting injured players the best recovery possible is a massively important step forward. 
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,236
    So are you saying that the sponge and the cold bucket of water plus the magic Spray is now dated?
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,830
    stonemuse said:
    Rothko said:
    This is such a weird quiet Brexity discussion. 
    Why?

    Technology? Race? Ownership? 
    The whole where’s he’s from stuff
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited January 2020
    Sage said:
    This can only be good news.

    Medical team were hoping for an increase in budget when we got promoted, we all know that didn’t happen. You wouldn’t believe what they have to work with in comparison to other clubs in this league. It’s miles apart. Therefore, advancements in technology and further specialists to come in and assess the players is great news. They can run tests on them which we never would’ve been able to do before, and add that to the training ground development where I am sure they will make the medical and sports science department up to a very high standard. All of this can only be a good thing and positive for us moving forward.

    We need to find ways of developing our rehabilitation, recovery, strength, and conditioning. That’s not to say the people doing that now aren’t good enough, because they are. It’s to say the way football and sport in general is moving, it’s developing so fast that quite frankly, we have been left behind for a very long time. It’s been this way since before Roland was here and of course, all throughout it. That’s a lot to develop.

    We do need new players now but that’s extremely short-sighted. On the bigger picture of our club and the departments that run constantly through it, the development of medicine and sports science through extra specialist from the private clinics in UAE, advancements in technologies, and bringing ourselves to the front of development in this area is a huge step forward. I, for one, am very pleased to read this news today.
    Would there also a problem regarding not doing sufficient DD with medicals?  Due to equipment/budgets are we still "cupping balls and getting them to caugh"?

    Or in the same vain signing players off as "fit to return" when they actually aren't? 
  • RaplhMilne
    RaplhMilne Posts: 4,611
    Never mind a 5 year plan, what’s the next 5 month plan? 
    Agree.
    Because if the next two weeks goes badly ?
    The 4 and a half year plan is how do we get back to the Championship. 
    So true step  1 of the 5 year plan will be getting out of league 1.