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January 2020 transfer rumours thread (Deadline Day starts Page 283)

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  • Is the game on Sky Red Button?
    I am actually going but would like to record it, however looking on Sky programs for tomorrow evening there are no Championship game listed, so I assume it’s a no, though someone on another thread said they will be watching it on Red Button. I think they are mistaken.
    I looked like you and don't think it is on Red Button. Have therefore decided to go and suffer the nightmare rush hour trip around the M25 and up the A2, but not anticipating we will get much out of this one. But, you never know  ;)
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,991
    Its definitely on the red button.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,489
    Is the game on Sky Red Button?
    I am actually going but would like to record it, however looking on Sky programs for tomorrow evening there are no Championship game listed, so I assume it’s a no, though someone on another thread said they will be watching it on Red Button. I think they are mistaken.
    Sky football channel 
    Red button 
    Ok, thanks bp72.....which means I can’t pre set my Q box to record....damn! :/
  • Is the game on Sky Red Button?
    I am actually going but would like to record it, however looking on Sky programs for tomorrow evening there are no Championship game listed, so I assume it’s a no, though someone on another thread said they will be watching it on Red Button. I think they are mistaken.
    I looked like you and don't think it is on Red Button. Have therefore decided to go and suffer the nightmare rush hour trip around the M25 and up the A2, but not anticipating we will get much out of this one. But, you never know  ;)
    Definitely on the red button

    I was the one advising it wouldnt be on the TV but seems SKY put egg on my face by making it available on the red button

    If you leave it on Sky Sports Football you'll get to "enjoy" Kilmarnock v Celtic
  • Just sign a player
    A bloody football player 
    I just dont think you understand 
    We're down to the ground
    Time to spend a pound
    I just don't think you understand 
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,489
    Is the game on Sky Red Button?
    I am actually going but would like to record it, however looking on Sky programs for tomorrow evening there are no Championship game listed, so I assume it’s a no, though someone on another thread said they will be watching it on Red Button. I think they are mistaken.
    I looked like you and don't think it is on Red Button. Have therefore decided to go and suffer the nightmare rush hour trip around the M25 and up the A2, but not anticipating we will get much out of this one. But, you never know  ;)
    It now shows on the listing as being available....although the main game is Kilmarnock V Celtic.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,378
    Not claiming to be ITK here but my friend who texted me saying Bowyer did not know about RD statement in the summer and was going to stay has just texted me and said we have bid around 1m for the Bristol Rovers striker Clarke-Harris

    Can't wait for the pelters if it does not come off.

    No, don't believe it, they're skint remember because Charlton Life said so.



    That or they don't want to overpay average players. 
    Ask yourself why we are having to target average players
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,991
    Chunes said:
    Not claiming to be ITK here but my friend who texted me saying Bowyer did not know about RD statement in the summer and was going to stay has just texted me and said we have bid around 1m for the Bristol Rovers striker Clarke-Harris

    Can't wait for the pelters if it does not come off.

    No, don't believe it, they're skint remember because Charlton Life said so.



    That or they don't want to overpay average players. 
    Ask yourself why we are having to target average players
    Because in Jan many clubs want to keep their good players or sell them for way over their value?
  • john3
    john3 Posts: 335
    Is Boris still booking Big Ben to chime on the 31st for Brexit? If not can we book it for ESI finally get out the cheque book?
  • Chunes said:
    Not claiming to be ITK here but my friend who texted me saying Bowyer did not know about RD statement in the summer and was going to stay has just texted me and said we have bid around 1m for the Bristol Rovers striker Clarke-Harris

    Can't wait for the pelters if it does not come off.

    No, don't believe it, they're skint remember because Charlton Life said so.



    That or they don't want to overpay average players. 
    Ask yourself why we are having to target average players
    Because in Jan many clubs want to keep their good players or sell them for way over their value?
    If you are a promotion chasing team, why are you going to sell your best player and potentially ruin that chance. Even if the team buying that player pay over the odds there is no guarantee you will find a suitable replacement.

    If you are in a relegation battle why are you going to sell your best player and potentially ruin any chance of survival. Even if the team buying that player pay over the odds there is no guarantee you will find a suitable replacement.

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  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,378
    edited January 2020
    Chunes said:
    Not claiming to be ITK here but my friend who texted me saying Bowyer did not know about RD statement in the summer and was going to stay has just texted me and said we have bid around 1m for the Bristol Rovers striker Clarke-Harris

    Can't wait for the pelters if it does not come off.

    No, don't believe it, they're skint remember because Charlton Life said so.



    That or they don't want to overpay average players. 
    Ask yourself why we are having to target average players
    Because in Jan many clubs want to keep their good players or sell them for way over their value?
    So we target average players? Do you really believe B&G had a conversation where they decided not to target the best they could get with the money they have, and just said let's do average then

    There's good players not playing all over the place.
  • Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    Not claiming to be ITK here but my friend who texted me saying Bowyer did not know about RD statement in the summer and was going to stay has just texted me and said we have bid around 1m for the Bristol Rovers striker Clarke-Harris

    Can't wait for the pelters if it does not come off.

    No, don't believe it, they're skint remember because Charlton Life said so.



    That or they don't want to overpay average players. 
    Ask yourself why we are having to target average players
    Because in Jan many clubs want to keep their good players or sell them for way over their value?
    So we target average players? Do you really believe B&G had a conversation where they decided not to target the best they could get with the money they have, and just said let's do average then

    There's good players not playing all over the place.
    Like who?
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,378
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    Not claiming to be ITK here but my friend who texted me saying Bowyer did not know about RD statement in the summer and was going to stay has just texted me and said we have bid around 1m for the Bristol Rovers striker Clarke-Harris

    Can't wait for the pelters if it does not come off.

    No, don't believe it, they're skint remember because Charlton Life said so.



    That or they don't want to overpay average players. 
    Ask yourself why we are having to target average players
    Because in Jan many clubs want to keep their good players or sell them for way over their value?
    So we target average players? Do you really believe B&G had a conversation where they decided not to target the best they could get with the money they have, and just said let's do average then

    There's good players not playing all over the place.
    Like who?
    Who do you think I am, Thomas Driesen? Scouting from my bedroom? It's impossible there aren't any. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,420
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    Not claiming to be ITK here but my friend who texted me saying Bowyer did not know about RD statement in the summer and was going to stay has just texted me and said we have bid around 1m for the Bristol Rovers striker Clarke-Harris

    Can't wait for the pelters if it does not come off.

    No, don't believe it, they're skint remember because Charlton Life said so.



    That or they don't want to overpay average players. 
    Ask yourself why we are having to target average players
    Because in Jan many clubs want to keep their good players or sell them for way over their value?
    So we target average players? Do you really believe B&G had a conversation where they decided not to target the best they could get with the money they have, and just said let's do average then

    There's good players not playing all over the place.
    If they're good, why aren't they playing?

    Because they're not as good as you would like us to believe.
  • Charltonparklane
    Charltonparklane Posts: 5,786
    edited January 2020
    Chunes said:
    Not claiming to be ITK here but my friend who texted me saying Bowyer did not know about RD statement in the summer and was going to stay has just texted me and said we have bid around 1m for the Bristol Rovers striker Clarke-Harris

    Can't wait for the pelters if it does not come off.

    No, don't believe it, they're skint remember because Charlton Life said so.



    That or they don't want to overpay average players. 
    Ask yourself why we are having to target average players
    Because in Jan many clubs want to keep their good players or sell them for way over their value?
    If you are a promotion chasing team, why are you going to sell your best player and potentially ruin that chance. Even if the team buying that player pay over the odds there is no guarantee you will find a suitable replacement.

    If you are in a relegation battle why are you going to sell your best player and potentially ruin any chance of survival. Even if the team buying that player pay over the odds there is no guarantee you will find a suitable replacement.
    Bit like KAG? 
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,779
    edited January 2020
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    Not claiming to be ITK here but my friend who texted me saying Bowyer did not know about RD statement in the summer and was going to stay has just texted me and said we have bid around 1m for the Bristol Rovers striker Clarke-Harris

    Can't wait for the pelters if it does not come off.

    No, don't believe it, they're skint remember because Charlton Life said so.



    That or they don't want to overpay average players. 
    Ask yourself why we are having to target average players
    Because in Jan many clubs want to keep their good players or sell them for way over their value?
    So we target average players? Do you really believe B&G had a conversation where they decided not to target the best they could get with the money they have, and just said let's do average then

    There's good players not playing all over the place.
    I think the issue with many fans is they never look at the wider context of football transfers. I believe there is lots more to consider when buying players then whether they are 'average', 'good' etc.

    When we have our full team back, and fit, I honestly struggle to see who can bring in this window who would be a guaranteed first team player for us in the long term. As an example does anyone see Armannd Gnandulliet as a long term investment for the squad, is he going to be the striker to take us to the next level? If we got him in now, would his arrival guarantee us not getting relegated. If you don't think that then all of a sudden having to pay an larger fee and an extra 1k a week for him, to potentially be a 3rd or 4th striker does not make sense. Especially when we want to bring other players in and his wage is the basis they go off.

  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,991
    edited January 2020
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    Not claiming to be ITK here but my friend who texted me saying Bowyer did not know about RD statement in the summer and was going to stay has just texted me and said we have bid around 1m for the Bristol Rovers striker Clarke-Harris

    Can't wait for the pelters if it does not come off.

    No, don't believe it, they're skint remember because Charlton Life said so.



    That or they don't want to overpay average players. 
    Ask yourself why we are having to target average players
    Because in Jan many clubs want to keep their good players or sell them for way over their value?
    So we target average players? Do you really believe B&G had a conversation where they decided not to target the best they could get with the money they have, and just said let's do average then

    There's good players not playing all over the place.
    Eh? The original comment you chose to argue was that we don't want to overpay average players. 

    We aren't JUST targeting 'average players', thats why the better ones are proving harder to get as its the January transfer window tand we are only half way through it.

    You seem to be pushing this 'I know we aren't as rich as everyone else thinks' thing and nobody is arguing with you. We aren't mega rich, but I'm sure we have the budget to buy players like the kid from Blackpool, we just don't want to be taken the piss out of.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,378
    edited January 2020
    Dazzler21 said:
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    Not claiming to be ITK here but my friend who texted me saying Bowyer did not know about RD statement in the summer and was going to stay has just texted me and said we have bid around 1m for the Bristol Rovers striker Clarke-Harris

    Can't wait for the pelters if it does not come off.

    No, don't believe it, they're skint remember because Charlton Life said so.



    That or they don't want to overpay average players. 
    Ask yourself why we are having to target average players
    Because in Jan many clubs want to keep their good players or sell them for way over their value?
    So we target average players? Do you really believe B&G had a conversation where they decided not to target the best they could get with the money they have, and just said let's do average then

    There's good players not playing all over the place.
    If they're good, why aren't they playing?

    Because they're not as good as you would like us to believe.
    Competitive squad. Not the managers type of player. Fallen out of favour. Needs a run of games. Out of form. Doesn't fit in. Family hasn't settled in the area. Fans got on their back. Not being played to their strengths. Was played out of position. Doesn't fit the managers strategy. No place in the current formation. Being kept out of side by even better player. Generally undervalued.

    Off the top of my head. 

    Where did Yann come from?
  • LTKapal
    LTKapal Posts: 1,312
    Dazzler21 said:
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    Not claiming to be ITK here but my friend who texted me saying Bowyer did not know about RD statement in the summer and was going to stay has just texted me and said we have bid around 1m for the Bristol Rovers striker Clarke-Harris

    Can't wait for the pelters if it does not come off.

    No, don't believe it, they're skint remember because Charlton Life said so.



    That or they don't want to overpay average players. 
    Ask yourself why we are having to target average players
    Because in Jan many clubs want to keep their good players or sell them for way over their value?
    So we target average players? Do you really believe B&G had a conversation where they decided not to target the best they could get with the money they have, and just said let's do average then

    There's good players not playing all over the place.
    If they're good, why aren't they playing?

    Because they're not as good as you would like us to believe.
    Not entirely true, I used to play a minor sport at International level, I won't say what because I'd prefer to keep my anonymity, anyway at one point I was the 2nd best player in the country, our team had players from all nationalities etc but I got frozen out the team because of political reasons. To put that back into a footballing perspective, some players don't suit certain styles and some fall out with their managers, it isn't always that they aren't as good. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,587
    edited January 2020
    Chunes said:
    Not claiming to be ITK here but my friend who texted me saying Bowyer did not know about RD statement in the summer and was going to stay has just texted me and said we have bid around 1m for the Bristol Rovers striker Clarke-Harris

    Can't wait for the pelters if it does not come off.

    No, don't believe it, they're skint remember because Charlton Life said so.



    That or they don't want to overpay average players. 
    Ask yourself why we are having to target average players
    Because in Jan many clubs want to keep their good players or sell them for way over their value?
    If you are a promotion chasing team, why are you going to sell your best player and potentially ruin that chance. Even if the team buying that player pay over the odds there is no guarantee you will find a suitable replacement.

    If you are in a relegation battle why are you going to sell your best player and potentially ruin any chance of survival. Even if the team buying that player pay over the odds there is no guarantee you will find a suitable replacement.
    Bit like KAG? 
    Out of Contract in the summer which is the exact sort of player we're currently after - Only the players we're after dont have Roland as an owner!!

    Take ESI and their stubborness with letting Taylor leave this month (Unless its a silly offer) and thats the sort of owners we're having to deal with

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  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,779
    edited January 2020
    LTKapal said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    Not claiming to be ITK here but my friend who texted me saying Bowyer did not know about RD statement in the summer and was going to stay has just texted me and said we have bid around 1m for the Bristol Rovers striker Clarke-Harris

    Can't wait for the pelters if it does not come off.

    No, don't believe it, they're skint remember because Charlton Life said so.



    That or they don't want to overpay average players. 
    Ask yourself why we are having to target average players
    Because in Jan many clubs want to keep their good players or sell them for way over their value?
    So we target average players? Do you really believe B&G had a conversation where they decided not to target the best they could get with the money they have, and just said let's do average then

    There's good players not playing all over the place.
    If they're good, why aren't they playing?

    Because they're not as good as you would like us to believe.
    Not entirely true, I used to play a minor sport at International level, I won't say what because I'd prefer to keep my anonymity, anyway at one point I was the 2nd best player in the country, our team had players from all nationalities etc but I got frozen out the team because of political reasons. To put that back into a footballing perspective, some players don't suit certain styles and some fall out with their managers, it isn't always that they aren't as good. 

    Chunes said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    Not claiming to be ITK here but my friend who texted me saying Bowyer did not know about RD statement in the summer and was going to stay has just texted me and said we have bid around 1m for the Bristol Rovers striker Clarke-Harris

    Can't wait for the pelters if it does not come off.

    No, don't believe it, they're skint remember because Charlton Life said so.



    That or they don't want to overpay average players. 
    Ask yourself why we are having to target average players
    Because in Jan many clubs want to keep their good players or sell them for way over their value?
    So we target average players? Do you really believe B&G had a conversation where they decided not to target the best they could get with the money they have, and just said let's do average then

    There's good players not playing all over the place.
    If they're good, why aren't they playing?

    Because they're not as good as you would like us to believe.
    Competitive squad. Not the managers type of player. Fallen out of favour. Needs a run of games. Out of form. Doesn't fit in. Family hasn't settled in the area. Fans got on their back. Not being played to their strengths. Was played out of position. Doesn't fit the managers strategy. No place in the current formation. Being kept out of side by even better player. Generally undervalued.

    Off the top of my head. 

    Where did Yann come from?
    I absolutely agree with both these points here, and this is fundamentally why, if I owned a football club at our level I would want to stick to a method and a budget. Players who do not do well at some clubs do well at others, and players who are great at some clubs move and then are poor.

    Of course there is always a risk involved in anything in life, especially football transfers, but in my opinion as player performance is hardly ever guaranteed you still need to try and be as sensible as possible with your money.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    LTKapal said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    Not claiming to be ITK here but my friend who texted me saying Bowyer did not know about RD statement in the summer and was going to stay has just texted me and said we have bid around 1m for the Bristol Rovers striker Clarke-Harris

    Can't wait for the pelters if it does not come off.

    No, don't believe it, they're skint remember because Charlton Life said so.



    That or they don't want to overpay average players. 
    Ask yourself why we are having to target average players
    Because in Jan many clubs want to keep their good players or sell them for way over their value?
    So we target average players? Do you really believe B&G had a conversation where they decided not to target the best they could get with the money they have, and just said let's do average then

    There's good players not playing all over the place.
    If they're good, why aren't they playing?

    Because they're not as good as you would like us to believe.
    Not entirely true, I used to play a minor sport at International level, I won't say what because I'd prefer to keep my anonymity, anyway at one point I was the 2nd best player in the country, our team had players from all nationalities etc but I got frozen out the team because of political reasons. To put that back into a footballing perspective, some players don't suit certain styles and some fall out with their managers, it isn't always that they aren't as good. 
    I think you have started something now, everybody will be desperate to know the sport. 

    I am going to start with Hockey?
  • LTKapal
    LTKapal Posts: 1,312
    I think you have started something now, everybody will be desperate to know the sport. 

    I am going to start with Hockey?
    Good guess but sadly not, i'll be sure to stay off the who I really am thread with all the confessions flying out 😉
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,500
    I'm going for Sumo. 
  • LTKapal said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    Not claiming to be ITK here but my friend who texted me saying Bowyer did not know about RD statement in the summer and was going to stay has just texted me and said we have bid around 1m for the Bristol Rovers striker Clarke-Harris

    Can't wait for the pelters if it does not come off.

    No, don't believe it, they're skint remember because Charlton Life said so.



    That or they don't want to overpay average players. 
    Ask yourself why we are having to target average players
    Because in Jan many clubs want to keep their good players or sell them for way over their value?
    So we target average players? Do you really believe B&G had a conversation where they decided not to target the best they could get with the money they have, and just said let's do average then

    There's good players not playing all over the place.
    If they're good, why aren't they playing?

    Because they're not as good as you would like us to believe.
    Not entirely true, I used to play a minor sport at International level, I won't say what because I'd prefer to keep my anonymity, anyway at one point I was the 2nd best player in the country, our team had players from all nationalities etc but I got frozen out the team because of political reasons. To put that back into a footballing perspective, some players don't suit certain styles and some fall out with their managers, it isn't always that they aren't as good. 
    I think you have started something now, everybody will be desperate to know the sport. 

    I am going to start with Hockey?
    Kabaddi?
  • LTKapal said:
    I think you have started something now, everybody will be desperate to know the sport. 

    I am going to start with Hockey?
    Good guess but sadly not, i'll be sure to stay off the who I really am thread with all the confessions flying out 😉
    Basketball?
  • I'm going for estate agent or fisherman. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Dazzler21 said:
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    Not claiming to be ITK here but my friend who texted me saying Bowyer did not know about RD statement in the summer and was going to stay has just texted me and said we have bid around 1m for the Bristol Rovers striker Clarke-Harris

    Can't wait for the pelters if it does not come off.

    No, don't believe it, they're skint remember because Charlton Life said so.



    That or they don't want to overpay average players. 
    Ask yourself why we are having to target average players
    Because in Jan many clubs want to keep their good players or sell them for way over their value?
    So we target average players? Do you really believe B&G had a conversation where they decided not to target the best they could get with the money they have, and just said let's do average then

    There's good players not playing all over the place.
    If they're good, why aren't they playing?

    Because they're not as good as you would like us to believe.
    Well I would guess that between the other London clubs their are 20 players with no chance of playing for their first teams this season who would get a game in our current team. 
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    LTKapal said:
    I think you have started something now, everybody will be desperate to know the sport. 

    I am going to start with Hockey?
    Good guess but sadly not, i'll be sure to stay off the who I really am thread with all the confessions flying o

    Synchronized swimming?
  • hawksmoor
    hawksmoor Posts: 2,608
    I'm going for waterpolo.