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January 2020 transfer rumours thread (Deadline Day starts Page 283)
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Wouldn't be surprised to see a Maddison move on deadline day. Can't see him choosing not to play for 4 months and just run his contract down.0
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Reckon about 10pm on Friday eveningChunes said:What is the official CL 'allowed to panic' date if we haven't signed anyone? 30th?4 -
MarcusH26 said:Wouldn't be surprised to see a Maddison move on deadline day. Can't see him choosing not to play for 4 months and just run his contract down.
I don't believe he won't play for the rest of the season if he doesn't go. Posh just want him to go now in order to get some money for him
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Out of interest who was it then? Clue on the level of player it wasSage said:
As far as I know, Maddison was not the player who asked for the extra £1,000 p/w.ForeverAddickted said:If Maddison doesnt sign for anyone else the longer it goes on Friday then I see Gallen having the following conversation with him
SG: Want to sign on those terms we offered you?
MM will then either say yes because we're the best Championship option in his eyes (In which case we get the player) or he'll say no, give me the extra 1k I asked for
If its the latter then its all depends if Gallen is prepared to then pay it - If all other avenues have been exhausted then I reckon we'll pay it, all depends on who is prepared to blink first
Of course should we get him we'll never know if we did just offer more or whether Maddison came to his senses (doubt it'll stop people moaning that we could have just paid him what he wanted making him available for Fulham)
On the other hand he may well feel he wants to be in a position where the transfer fee becomes his signing on fee in the summer (for whoever he joins) - If thats the case then I dont think it matters what anyone offers him!!0 -
Might have to be a bit earlier - Chris Parkes has to pick up Sue from the Sidcup Wetherspoons at half 9. She we be well mangled after being in there since 9am. Might take him a while to get her out the car and indoors.ForeverAddickted said:
Reckon about 10pm on Friday eveningChunes said:What is the official CL 'allowed to panic' date if we haven't signed anyone? 30th?2 -
The time line didn't match and if it was only 1K in Maddison case, and with both Gallagher and Cullen having the potential recall in January, then it would've been weird and strange to turn down a player with a proven track record in League 1 who could turn into a decent championship player.Sage said:
As far as I know, Maddison was not the player who asked for the extra £1,000 p/w.ForeverAddickted said:If Maddison doesnt sign for anyone else the longer it goes on Friday then I see Gallen having the following conversation with him
SG: Want to sign on those terms we offered you?
MM will then either say yes because we're the best Championship option in his eyes (In which case we get the player) or he'll say no, give me the extra 1k I asked for
If its the latter then its all depends if Gallen is prepared to then pay it - If all other avenues have been exhausted then I reckon we'll pay it, all depends on who is prepared to blink first
Of course should we get him we'll never know if we did just offer more or whether Maddison came to his senses (doubt it'll stop people moaning that we could have just paid him what he wanted making him available for Fulham)
On the other hand he may well feel he wants to be in a position where the transfer fee becomes his signing on fee in the summer (for whoever he joins) - If thats the case then I dont think it matters what anyone offers him!!
Bowyer and Gallen wanted this too happen,
If Gallen has said "this player isn't worth an extra 1k a week" (quote from Matt) maybe Ollie Clarke from Rovers was the recipient of this remark and not Maddison who people have questioned on his motivation but not on his football skill and his Championship class.
I don't want history to repeat itself and for the sake of a grand(don't compare this to ordinary jobs) we should be able to get players that can strengthen our team or else it all becomes pointless.
Ps. It must've been at least 2k for the deal to flounder in MM case.0 -
He'll be due a 7 figure signing bonus if he stays put and then agrees to a move in the summer. Not playing for the rest of the season might also be a positive as it makes picking up an injury less likely.MarcusH26 said:Wouldn't be surprised to see a Maddison move on deadline day. Can't see him choosing not to play for 4 months and just run his contract down.1 -
In other words Swis, you're very disappointed with the lack of activity by us so far :-)Swisdom said:There will always be a flurry of activity right at the end - it's like a merry-go-round. Like a property "chain". One club sell a player which frees funds to buy a player and means the club they bought from has the cash to sign the player they have wanted and so on. The window in general has been quieter but there will still be a fair bit of action in the last couple of days.
I'm still hopeful on Maddison. Seems Pogba is likely. I expect a couple of others too. Sadly the last 5 or 6 years have probably not helped to whip up this frenzy of activity at transfer window time. It apparently cannot be avoided.
In honesty I would have hoped to sort something over the weekend ie a signing that would have a week of training with us before the weekend game but that doesn't seem tobe the case - as we have always done in the summer window it's a lastminute.com signing or two.
For now I will remain calm and hopeful we will get some good news in the next 36 hours to lighten spirits a bit
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Dunfermline are trying to keep hold of their striker Kevin Nisbet with interest from the championship and Italy. No clubs names but sounds like a Gallen type signing. Has 17 in 22 in the Scottish championship this season and had 29 in 34 last season in their 3rd tier.0
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https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5218390/rangers-fc-news-charlton-sunderland-greg-docherty/
I know this has been mentioned a few times but The Scottish Sun has reported that Greg Docherty looks like he'll be coming to us on loan after talks with Sunderland stalled. this was reported yesterday but I don't know if it's based on new information or just being rehashed from earlier in the window. Won lots of awards at Shrewsbury last season so he could be a good addition.3 -
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Well I wouldn't think prices would be coming down if two or more clubs are after the same player.Sage said:
Also this... but we have recently learnt that prices are coming down and will continue to do so as the window comes to a close.ForeverAddickted said:
Cgrumpyaddick said:Sounds to me like we are trying hard to sign players but getting nowhere. This could be due to:
a. Our lowly league position and no-one fancies the prospect of League 1
b. Our loanees have a reputation for being driven too hard and getting knackered
c. Unacceptable financial demands are being made because of the new owners.
d. Southall is conducting negotiations instead of Gallen
e. None of the above.0 -
Mostly A with a bit of D thrown in. Players might sign for a struggling side if the wonga is right.. they certainly wont sign if they think they are getting a bum deal and could be in League 1 next season.grumpyaddick said:Sounds to me like we are trying hard to sign players but getting nowhere. This could be due to:
a. Our lowly league position and no-one fancies the prospect of League 1
b. Our loanees have a reputation for being driven too hard and getting knackered
c. Unacceptable financial demands are being made because of the new owners.
d. Southall is conducting negotiations instead of Gallen
e. None of the above.
Loans only during this window I'm afraid.....and they will be late Friday (and then wont be able to play Saturday in any case)2 -
I’m not going to claim I know who the player was, because I don’t. But genuinely as far as I know, it definitely wasn’t Maddison.Braziliance said:
Out of interest who was it then? Clue on the level of player it wasSage said:
As far as I know, Maddison was not the player who asked for the extra £1,000 p/w.ForeverAddickted said:If Maddison doesnt sign for anyone else the longer it goes on Friday then I see Gallen having the following conversation with him
SG: Want to sign on those terms we offered you?
MM will then either say yes because we're the best Championship option in his eyes (In which case we get the player) or he'll say no, give me the extra 1k I asked for
If its the latter then its all depends if Gallen is prepared to then pay it - If all other avenues have been exhausted then I reckon we'll pay it, all depends on who is prepared to blink first
Of course should we get him we'll never know if we did just offer more or whether Maddison came to his senses (doubt it'll stop people moaning that we could have just paid him what he wanted making him available for Fulham)
On the other hand he may well feel he wants to be in a position where the transfer fee becomes his signing on fee in the summer (for whoever he joins) - If thats the case then I dont think it matters what anyone offers him!!
It was a player we obviously wanted, but that effort from the player, whoever they are, was enough for us to walk away.
I think we can confidently say it was a player from League One. If it was a current Championship player, there’s no way Gallen would say the extra £1,000 is not worth it.
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By the sound of everything I've read and been told from behind the scenes, Bergwijn is more a wide player that can fill in anywhere across the top. We're supposed to be after a centre-forward too. If that comes off then there's every chance he would go on loan.ForeverAddickted said:Someone on twitter has just pointed out that with Spurs having a bid accepted for Bergwijn (PSV) it could enable Parrott to go out on loan...
Its strange that Poch said he expected him to be part of the first team squad this season and get minutes where as Mourinho has pretty much blocked him and said he needs at least another 3 years experience before he gets a chance. I've watched a fair bit of him in the youth teams and he looked more than ready for a chance. He impressed in pre-season too. Two footed, reasonably quick, very good on the ball. Very much in the Robbie Keane-mould of old. Industrious and very skillful. A loan to the Championship for some first team football would do him the world of good.5 -
Makes me feel a little bit sick that we are getting players from Scotland on loan, glorified pub league. Watched Hearts vs Rangers at the weekend, my word it was poor2
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LOL. Do you really think we would sign a player & keep it under wraps until Friday just so Barnsley might get a "surprise" on Saturday. Do me a favour !!! Some real clutching at straws going on there.Redmidland said:I've been very supportive of the new owners and have said that we should judge them on transfers on Saturday 1st Feb. However I'm also getting a little concerned that it 'appears' no-one has been signed. The one thought I've had is, could it be we have signed a couple of players, they are training with the squad, but we haven't announced them so as to try and keep the potential new team away from Barnsley until the very last minute? Clutching at straws maybe, but I would like to think that Bowyer/Gallen and of course Southall have something organised to strengthen the squad!
I think what is worrying is that LB said that their "lists" had been given to MS last week & its now down to him. With the best will in the world, he might have been a players agent but he has never done the bargaining for the other side. Should have left it to SG to sort out.
MS also said last week that there were deals "pending". Sounds like he needs to get his arse in gear & move them from the "pending" tray to the "done" tray.4 -
Aribo was shit.Pelling1993 said:Makes me feel a little bit sick that we are getting players from Scotland on loan, glorified pub league. Watched Hearts vs Rangers at the weekend, my word it was poor4 -
Sounds a bit typical Mourinho then sadly in terms of the youngstersJohnBoyUK said:
By the sound of everything I've read and been told from behind the scenes, Bergwijn is more a wide player that can fill in anywhere across the top. We're supposed to be after a centre-forward too. If that comes off then there's every chance he would go on loan.ForeverAddickted said:Someone on twitter has just pointed out that with Spurs having a bid accepted for Bergwijn (PSV) it could enable Parrott to go out on loan...
Its strange that Poch said he expected him to be part of the first team squad this season and get minutes where as Mourinho has pretty much blocked him and said he needs at least another 3 years experience before he gets a chance. I've watched a fair bit of him in the youth teams and he looked more than ready for a chance. He impressed in pre-season too. Two footed, reasonably quick, very good on the ball. Very much in the Robbie Keane-mould of old. Industrious and very skillful. A loan to the Championship for some first team football would do him the world of good.3 -
I reckopn MowattBraziliance said:
Out of interest who was it then? Clue on the level of player it wasSage said:
As far as I know, Maddison was not the player who asked for the extra £1,000 p/w.ForeverAddickted said:If Maddison doesnt sign for anyone else the longer it goes on Friday then I see Gallen having the following conversation with him
SG: Want to sign on those terms we offered you?
MM will then either say yes because we're the best Championship option in his eyes (In which case we get the player) or he'll say no, give me the extra 1k I asked for
If its the latter then its all depends if Gallen is prepared to then pay it - If all other avenues have been exhausted then I reckon we'll pay it, all depends on who is prepared to blink first
Of course should we get him we'll never know if we did just offer more or whether Maddison came to his senses (doubt it'll stop people moaning that we could have just paid him what he wanted making him available for Fulham)
On the other hand he may well feel he wants to be in a position where the transfer fee becomes his signing on fee in the summer (for whoever he joins) - If thats the case then I dont think it matters what anyone offers him!!0 -
Sage then said it was likely to a player from League One rather than the Championshipcantersaddick said:
I reckopn MowattBraziliance said:
Out of interest who was it then? Clue on the level of player it wasSage said:
As far as I know, Maddison was not the player who asked for the extra £1,000 p/w.ForeverAddickted said:If Maddison doesnt sign for anyone else the longer it goes on Friday then I see Gallen having the following conversation with him
SG: Want to sign on those terms we offered you?
MM will then either say yes because we're the best Championship option in his eyes (In which case we get the player) or he'll say no, give me the extra 1k I asked for
If its the latter then its all depends if Gallen is prepared to then pay it - If all other avenues have been exhausted then I reckon we'll pay it, all depends on who is prepared to blink first
Of course should we get him we'll never know if we did just offer more or whether Maddison came to his senses (doubt it'll stop people moaning that we could have just paid him what he wanted making him available for Fulham)
On the other hand he may well feel he wants to be in a position where the transfer fee becomes his signing on fee in the summer (for whoever he joins) - If thats the case then I dont think it matters what anyone offers him!!
Ben Close | Ronan Curtis | Scott Fraser are the other names from that level where we've been linked1 -
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I reckon we'll sign 2 or 3 before the window shuts. Personally, 2 loans in the door and Lyle staying and I think we'll have enough about us to stay up.
I'm not going to massively judge them on this window given the time frames + you can bet your bottom dollar everyone (MS / SG / LB etc) is working around the clock to try and get reinforcements in the door, they will know what's needed and there will be a 1,000 reasons why some transfers won't come off, but I bet it's not for the want of trying.
I actually believe if we signed no one else (and didn't lose anyone) and got a bit more luck with injuries in the 2nd half of the season, then we'd be fine - obviously I'd rather not rely on that.9 -
I mean I was guessing. I have no info. Just from when it came out at the time it seemed to match up with the Mowatt timeline. We will probably never know though.ForeverAddickted said:
Sage then said it was likely to a player from League One rather than the Championshipcantersaddick said:
I reckopn MowattBraziliance said:
Out of interest who was it then? Clue on the level of player it wasSage said:
As far as I know, Maddison was not the player who asked for the extra £1,000 p/w.ForeverAddickted said:If Maddison doesnt sign for anyone else the longer it goes on Friday then I see Gallen having the following conversation with him
SG: Want to sign on those terms we offered you?
MM will then either say yes because we're the best Championship option in his eyes (In which case we get the player) or he'll say no, give me the extra 1k I asked for
If its the latter then its all depends if Gallen is prepared to then pay it - If all other avenues have been exhausted then I reckon we'll pay it, all depends on who is prepared to blink first
Of course should we get him we'll never know if we did just offer more or whether Maddison came to his senses (doubt it'll stop people moaning that we could have just paid him what he wanted making him available for Fulham)
On the other hand he may well feel he wants to be in a position where the transfer fee becomes his signing on fee in the summer (for whoever he joins) - If thats the case then I dont think it matters what anyone offers him!!
Ben Close | Ronan Curtis | Scott Fraser are the other names from that level where we've been linked1 -
Oops.... Just been blocked by Nicko for joking that he managed to get Lyle's name right this time round!!Beardface said:22 -
3 in, Chirivella or equivalent, Parrott or equivalent, Pogba
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I have a feeling none of those, all would have cost a fee and it makes little sense to me to pay a fee for one of those players, all valued at around 500k, 3 million and 500k respectively. Makes little to no sense to stump up that kind of fee and then not pay up the extra 52k. Especially when they're players with quality and better than what we haveForeverAddickted said:
Sage then said it was likely to a player from League One rather than the Championshipcantersaddick said:
I reckopn MowattBraziliance said:
Out of interest who was it then? Clue on the level of player it wasSage said:
As far as I know, Maddison was not the player who asked for the extra £1,000 p/w.ForeverAddickted said:If Maddison doesnt sign for anyone else the longer it goes on Friday then I see Gallen having the following conversation with him
SG: Want to sign on those terms we offered you?
MM will then either say yes because we're the best Championship option in his eyes (In which case we get the player) or he'll say no, give me the extra 1k I asked for
If its the latter then its all depends if Gallen is prepared to then pay it - If all other avenues have been exhausted then I reckon we'll pay it, all depends on who is prepared to blink first
Of course should we get him we'll never know if we did just offer more or whether Maddison came to his senses (doubt it'll stop people moaning that we could have just paid him what he wanted making him available for Fulham)
On the other hand he may well feel he wants to be in a position where the transfer fee becomes his signing on fee in the summer (for whoever he joins) - If thats the case then I dont think it matters what anyone offers him!!
Ben Close | Ronan Curtis | Scott Fraser are the other names from that level where we've been linked
It sounds like a freebie to me but no one really knows I guess0 -
AgreedElthamaddick said:I reckon we'll sign 2 or 3 before the window shuts. Personally, 2 loans in the door and Lyle staying and I think we'll have enough about us to stay up.
I'm not going to massively judge them on this window given the time frames + you can bet your bottom dollar everyone (MS / SG / LB etc) is working around the clock to try and get reinforcements in the door, they will know what's needed and there will be a 1,000 reasons why some transfers won't come off, but I bet it's not for the want of trying.
I actually believe if we signed no one else (and didn't lose anyone) and got a bit more luck with injuries in the 2nd half of the season, then we'd be fine - obviously I'd rather not rely on that.0 -
would the player have only been signing a one year deal then?Braziliance said:
I have a feeling none of those, all would have cost a fee and it makes little sense to me to pay a fee for one of those players, all valued at around 500k, 3 million and 500k respectively. Makes little to no sense to stump up that kind of fee and then not pay up the extra 52k. Especially when they're players with quality and better than what we haveForeverAddickted said:
Sage then said it was likely to a player from League One rather than the Championshipcantersaddick said:
I reckopn MowattBraziliance said:
Out of interest who was it then? Clue on the level of player it wasSage said:
As far as I know, Maddison was not the player who asked for the extra £1,000 p/w.ForeverAddickted said:If Maddison doesnt sign for anyone else the longer it goes on Friday then I see Gallen having the following conversation with him
SG: Want to sign on those terms we offered you?
MM will then either say yes because we're the best Championship option in his eyes (In which case we get the player) or he'll say no, give me the extra 1k I asked for
If its the latter then its all depends if Gallen is prepared to then pay it - If all other avenues have been exhausted then I reckon we'll pay it, all depends on who is prepared to blink first
Of course should we get him we'll never know if we did just offer more or whether Maddison came to his senses (doubt it'll stop people moaning that we could have just paid him what he wanted making him available for Fulham)
On the other hand he may well feel he wants to be in a position where the transfer fee becomes his signing on fee in the summer (for whoever he joins) - If thats the case then I dont think it matters what anyone offers him!!
Ben Close | Ronan Curtis | Scott Fraser are the other names from that level where we've been linked
It sounds like a freebie to me but no one really knows I guess
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@ForeverAddickted he did bite and respond as well, but I won't post it here as it looks like it has your real name in it. He said "Considering I watched him for my team when you didn t even know who he was.... Yeah."ForeverAddickted said:
Oops.... Just been blocked by Nicko for joking that he managed to get Lyle's name right this time round!!Beardface said:
Sounds like a bit of a prat.9 -
Oh I dont mind people knowing my real name - I just dont use a photo on that profile what with the idiots you get on social mediaBeardface said:
@ForeverAddickted he did bite and respond as well, but I won't post it here as it looks like it has your real name in it. He said "Considering I watched him for my team when you didn t even know who he was.... Yeah."ForeverAddickted said:
Oops.... Just been blocked by Nicko for joking that he managed to get Lyle's name right this time round!!Beardface said:
Sounds like a bit of a prat.
Saw his response just before he blocked me, found it quite amusing - Guess he didnt like the thought of being challenged on his rumours, especially as some have said on here that he gets wrong a lot more than what he gets right2
