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January 2020 transfer rumours thread (Deadline Day starts Page 283)
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I bet we end up signing Alan Nixon.20
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Haha what did you do to be blocked?Talal said:Nixon just blocked me too 😢0 -
I'm getting bored with this now. After Preston when Bowyer said he wanted two in before Fulham did he still think we were playing them this Wednesday?
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I wouldn't start worrying yet, there's still 80 hours until the window slams shut!
We'll at least get a couple of decent loans and that'll do to keep us up.2 -
Tricky one isn’t it.....
Get why they don’t want to be held to ransom over players who might not be part of the next three years plan.And that the squad against Fulham is probably good enough to keep us up.
But blummin heck, you’d think the new owners would want some statement of intent.
No hints of anything doesn’t mean things are happening I guess.
Three and a bit days to go.3 -
I can see the logic in your assertion if it’s a player they don’t want to sell.Goonerhater said:Money being asked for by clubs does not go down as the window shortens.In many cases it goes UP.
If clubs get money in then when they look for replacements the selling club puts money on.
If selling clubs know your desperate then they are going to pile on the wedge.
It makes far more sense to get in early
But the price for players that clubs don’t want to sell is naturally inflated in January, regardless of what point in the window you try to buy them.
If a club is trying to offload a player but getting no bids that match their valuation, they either drop their price to a point where they can sell, get some funds and bring in their own targets or they hold and have a player they don’t want on their books for six more months.2 -
Heard from where?Addickted said:
Well someone is either making them up or is aware what has been happening in and around the agent circle.ValleyGary said:
Are you just making these up yourself?Addickted said:Next rumour - Cedric Itten, young forward for St Gallen and was in London a couple of weeks ago.
Swiss International.
Another I've heard is a loan move for a forward from a Premier League Club in London. Has played a few PL games already this season.
EDIT: May have played for two Clubs already this season, so not certain if it's viable. To be honest not heard of him previously.
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I picked up on this straight away when Matt said we are waiting for the price to go down near the end of the Window ! (Wage demand )Goonerhater said:Money being asked for by clubs does not go down as the window shortens.In many cases it goes UP.
If clubs get money in then when they look for replacements the selling club puts money on.
If selling clubs know your desperate then they are going to pile on the wedge.
It makes far more sense to get in early
it's obvious really, players in demand, the price goes up, players that only one club want, the price or wage demand goes down,
Supply and demand.
It ain't Rocket science.
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Said he was a sensitive soul. I know, I'm a nasty nasty man.ForeverAddickted said:
Haha what did you do to be blocked?Talal said:Nixon just blocked me too 😢
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The close of window will be
1) fantastic
2) erm
or
3) FFS!
What I am more worried about is the general kudos and reputation of ESI and in particular MS if we do not do any business at all, as that could well affect how their "project" takes off and I am the greatest fan of their project.
He is due all the pelters that are coming his way if we do not strengthen and are in fact weaker. MS needs to have learnt a valuable lesson if that is the case. He needs to keep his gob selectively shut. While it is refreshing that he and ESI seem the polar opposite of the Belgian turd, they perhaps need to reign in some of the promises. We are football supporters after all, impatient, knee jerk, deluded and far from impartial on ANYTHING.2 -
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The same principles don’t apply since there is a deadline for the selling club. They can’t hold their asset forever because if they miss the deadline they get 0.
Like I said if they don’t want to sell in the first place, what makes you think the price is going up late in the window?
Are we asking more for Lyle Taylor now than we were two weeks ago?1 -
Not necessarily. Not if you are trying to buy a player whose club doesn't want to sell.soapboxsam said:
I picked up on this straight away when Matt said we are waiting for the price to go down near the end of the Window ! (Wage demand )Goonerhater said:Money being asked for by clubs does not go down as the window shortens.In many cases it goes UP.
If clubs get money in then when they look for replacements the selling club puts money on.
If selling clubs know your desperate then they are going to pile on the wedge.
It makes far more sense to get in early
it's obvious really, players in demand, the price goes up, players that only one club want, the price or wage demand goes down,
Supply and demand.
It ain't Rocket science.
I agree on wage demands, and that may be the case with someone like Maddison. But I wouldn't assume it's definitely going to be easier to buy players later in the window.
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Ms was an agent , think he knows how to do a deal2
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Dave Rumour,cafcfan1990 said:
Heard from where?Addickted said:
Well someone is either making them up or is aware what has been happening in and around the agent circle.ValleyGary said:
Are you just making these up yourself?Addickted said:Next rumour - Cedric Itten, young forward for St Gallen and was in London a couple of weeks ago.
Swiss International.
Another I've heard is a loan move for a forward from a Premier League Club in London. Has played a few PL games already this season.
EDIT: May have played for two Clubs already this season, so not certain if it's viable. To be honest not heard of him previously.
15 Percent Street,
London
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In the last couple of days of the August window we brought back Cullen and signed Leko, Field, Kayal and effectively Hemed. We then signed Oztumer and Matthews as free agents
Not all came off, but amazing business really13 -
It will be last minute. It always is. Players holding out for the best offer before taking the plunge and The domino effect once players start moving allowing other deals to progress9
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HilariousAddickted said:
Dave Rumour,cafcfan1990 said:
Heard from where?Addickted said:
Well someone is either making them up or is aware what has been happening in and around the agent circle.ValleyGary said:
Are you just making these up yourself?Addickted said:Next rumour - Cedric Itten, young forward for St Gallen and was in London a couple of weeks ago.
Swiss International.
Another I've heard is a loan move for a forward from a Premier League Club in London. Has played a few PL games already this season.
EDIT: May have played for two Clubs already this season, so not certain if it's viable. To be honest not heard of him previously.
15 Percent Street,
London
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Dont forget you'll get players given permission to go out on loan again at the last minute like what we saw with Cullen in AugustTaxi_Lad said:It will be last minute. It always is. Players holding out for the best offer before taking the plunge and The domino effect once players start moving allowing other deals to progress
He was staying with West Ham right up until the last few days when they decided to let him go on loan0 -
Is it wrong for me to feel like we might have seen more activity so far in the shape of incomings this window if Roland was still in charge?
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Yesse9addick said:Is it wrong for me to feel like we might have seen more activity so far in the shape of incomings this window if Roland was still in charge?3 -
Pogba is not signing we want someone younger with bigger resale value3
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I'm hopeful we are in the mix for some quality, and that is the reason its going down to the wire.
We managed to do some unbelievable deals under the rat.
You'd have to seriously question Southall's negotiating skills if we don't at least match it.
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Veryse9addick said:Is it wrong for me to feel like we might have seen more activity so far in the shape of incomings this window if Roland was still in charge?0 -
I don't know if this is a joke or you're trying to be smart mate, seems like the latter to me and if that's the case you know exactly what I meant so what's the point in even posting about it?LargeAddick said:
would the player have only been signing a one year deal then?Braziliance said:
I have a feeling none of those, all would have cost a fee and it makes little sense to me to pay a fee for one of those players, all valued at around 500k, 3 million and 500k respectively. Makes little to no sense to stump up that kind of fee and then not pay up the extra 52k. Especially when they're players with quality and better than what we haveForeverAddickted said:
Sage then said it was likely to a player from League One rather than the Championshipcantersaddick said:
I reckopn MowattBraziliance said:
Out of interest who was it then? Clue on the level of player it wasSage said:
As far as I know, Maddison was not the player who asked for the extra £1,000 p/w.ForeverAddickted said:If Maddison doesnt sign for anyone else the longer it goes on Friday then I see Gallen having the following conversation with him
SG: Want to sign on those terms we offered you?
MM will then either say yes because we're the best Championship option in his eyes (In which case we get the player) or he'll say no, give me the extra 1k I asked for
If its the latter then its all depends if Gallen is prepared to then pay it - If all other avenues have been exhausted then I reckon we'll pay it, all depends on who is prepared to blink first
Of course should we get him we'll never know if we did just offer more or whether Maddison came to his senses (doubt it'll stop people moaning that we could have just paid him what he wanted making him available for Fulham)
On the other hand he may well feel he wants to be in a position where the transfer fee becomes his signing on fee in the summer (for whoever he joins) - If thats the case then I dont think it matters what anyone offers him!!
Ben Close | Ronan Curtis | Scott Fraser are the other names from that level where we've been linked
It sounds like a freebie to me but no one really knows I guess0 -
Relax - Saturday - HE in the House - Maddison plus top quality defender and 2x prem loans announced.Charlton win 3-0 Taylor Hat Trick
Covered End goes wild.3 -
Food for thought while I was driving about today thinking about the Maddison bid. Is it possible that we triggered the release clause to get Bowyer to have permission to speak to Maddison. Told him if he holds out till his contract expires we will offer him half the sign on fee we offered Peterborough and we have gambled that we have enough for now and he will join up in the summer, it's a bit of a tap up but I bet similar has happened before0
