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January 2020 transfer rumours thread (Deadline Day starts Page 283)
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The was something about the way Southall said, 'There will be marquee signings' that seemed to suggest that there would be in the future but not necessarily straight away. I am trying to believe that he reckons that we'll survive and then we can splash the cash in the summer. I'm having doubts though.4
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What's worrying is that there isn't really any rumours at all flying about
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I did wonder the same, with splashing out in the summer. Did make me question whether the Peterborough chairman saying that some teams want Toney but cannot until the summer due to FFP could have been us, but this is probably more blind faith at this moment in time.Uboat said:The was something about the way Southall said, 'There will be marquee signings' that seemed to suggest that there would be in the future but not necessarily straight away. I am trying to believe that he reckons that we'll survive and then we can splash the cash in the summer. I'm having doubts though.0 -
100% I've said it a few times the marquee signings thing has been massively misinterpreted and taken out of context. He was talking about offering Taylor a new contract and was talking about how some players are worth breaking the wage structure for. He mentioned Bowyer playing at Newcastle with Shearer who was clearly on a lot more money than others but it worked because of who he was. He was essentially saying there will be some players in the future we will pay more money for or break the wage structure for but they will be worth it. I believe he meant Taylor was one of them.Uboat said:The was something about the way Southall said, 'There will be marquee signings' that seemed to suggest that there would be in the future but not necessarily straight away. I am trying to believe that he reckons that we'll survive and then we can splash the cash in the summer. I'm having doubts though.
In no way did he say marquee signings in terms of this window.7 -
Just an idea, maybe the rumours aren't flowing out as the ITK people aren't as well connected to ESI as the previous regime12
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Nobody at the club would say anything about prospective signings, anyway .... not until the ink was dry on a contract.Melrose said:What's worrying is that there isn't really any rumours at all flying about
The first you'll know about it will be on the OS; a picture of a Third Division loanee with Scarfy.
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A comforting thought, but I'm past believing that we're suddenly going to have a press conference and unveil five new signings.Codfishjunior said:Just an idea, maybe the rumours aren't flowing out as the ITK people aren't as well connected to ESI as the previous regime1 -
Pope was 22/23 at the time so plenty more potential & I massively disagree re. JBG the bloke was class and easily Prem quality (see his hatrick for Iceland). Francis grantedsoapboxsam said:Pelling1993 said:I love Lyle Taylor and praying he stays, but he's nowhere near prem quality imo
The same was said about Pope, JBG and wait for it Francis.
I respect your opinion but if any Premier club have bid for Lyle he will insist the club accept it, as this has been Taylor's ambition ever since he cleaned Neil Harris' boots.0 -
Good point. Bowyer was usually the man for all that news because our CEO was non existant, now that he's taken a backseat to MS, Matt might want it a bit quietCodfishjunior said:Just an idea, maybe the rumours aren't flowing out as the ITK people aren't as well connected to ESI as the previous regime0 -
Maddison, Docherty, Clarke-Harris.Melrose said:What's worrying is that there isn't really any rumours at all flying about
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Matthews
Sollly
Pearce
Lockyer
Sarr
Purrington
Cullen
Pratley
Oztumer
Williams
Field
Green
Doughty
Morgan
Forster-Caskey
Taylor
BonneHemed
Davison
Aneke
Maddison would probably be a starter if added to the squad. If Clarke-Harris signs and is not a replacement for Taylor then he would probably move above Bonne and Hemed in the pecking order but would not start ahead of Taylor. Otherwise we are only really going to attract squad players.First game of the season we didn’t have Matthews, Oztumer or Hemed. We have lost Gallacher and Leko who we have replaced with Green. Therefore the make up of the squad is one who many, including Bowyer, we’re talking up as play off candidates. Then, of course injuries hit and we know what has happened.
Who apart from those I’ve mentioned is going to come in and improve the squad whilst also being willing to leave their current team for possible relegation?Unless we offer stupid money and stupid wages I think additions will be minimal and ESI aren’t going to do that. I think the hope of a host of signings is evaporating. But, these players are certainly good enough to keep us up.8 -
I have a theory about Gallagher and why he left.Swisdom said:
If Chelsea weren't on side with him moving he wouldn't have - but he did so they must have had some input. I also know he was pretty much in tears when he was leaving the training ground - he was happy here. I wish him well and vbelieve he is going to go on and have a great career and I place no blame whatsoever on ESI, CAFC or Conor.PragueAddick said:
I thought you were close to "the club"? If you are you'll know that Gallagher left because of his agent. Not "Chelsea", at least not Tore Andre Flo, running the rule over him at Sparrows Lane in December.Swisdom said:
Gallagher was, and is, a fantastic player. He came from nowhere and when that midfield was purring he was a big part of it. His last handful of games were a little disappointing though in honesty and maybe a 19 year old rookie isn't quite up to a dogfight at this stage of his career. Seems Chelsea thought that too. Besides we now have Doughty who, once he calms down and delivers accurately, will be a great asset to us.Lincsaddick said:
great post .. 2 things .. Gallagher the midfield mainstay back in the autumn has gone .. if Taylor scores a hat trick on Saturday and let's hope he does, that will be after 'the window' has closed and we will be left with what we have .. playing a devil's advocate role here b t w ((:>)Swisdom said:
Imagine we win on Saturday, Taylor plays and scores a goal.dajavouslagan said:Imagine the meltdown Saturday if we lose Tayler, no incomings & lose to Barnsley!Can’t understand why ESI rushed through this deal in time for the transfer window! Going to get pelters!!!!!
Glass half empty vs glass half full
Nobody has done much yet this window. We are so used to the "We need bodies" line being rolled out but the fact is the midfield is nearly back to the beginning of the season (you know - when we were playing very well) and the players should, theoretically, be less fatigued than many of our opposition.
Bonne will be fit soon, Hemed showed signs of being near to match fit last week, Aneke seems to have got fit and seemingly found some goalscoring boots whilst he was absent.
There is still 18 hours to go and I don't believe we won't sign anyone. Still very hopeful on Maddison. But the bottom line is our destiny is in our own hands. We have the players to stay up.
It's never easy being a Charlton fan, we all know that, but things ARE better than they were a couple of months ago and the future is, seemingly, bright. Just a slightly sticky patch to navigate at the moment
Saying that - Maddison is like Doughty on steroids so if we get him in too I'll be like a dog with two dicks.
No blame attaches to ESI or anyone at Charlton for this one.
Take a look at this interview with Gallagher in today's Guardian. Note that not a word, not a single word is there on why he moved from us to Swansea. Now ask yourself, isn't that a little odd? Well not if his agent arranged it or did most of the talking for him.
Agents are a necessary evil in this game and, sadly, some are more interested in themselves and not the player. An agent that puts the player first would be a cracking business model!! ;-)
In his last couple of games for us, he looked tired. He still gave his all but seemed slightly jaded.
I think Chelsea were protecting him, if they thought he needed a rest and was not given one because
he was integral to the team and covering for injured players, he might of got a serious (long term) injury.
LB said in the press conference he would be rested when other players returned, but I think Chelsea thought
that this was not happening quick enough.
He is their player and they are responsible for his well being, bearing in mind he probably will become a key
player for Chelsea and England.
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3, one of which is very unlikelyCallumcafc said:
Maddison, Docherty, Clarke-Harris.Melrose said:What's worrying is that there isn't really any rumours at all flying about
There is plenty out there
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Hull are considering a move for Jordan Jones and/or Maddison. They may not come in for MM if they can bring in Jones from Rangers.1
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Maddison will go Hull if they sell Bowen. They have a higher wage structure, just hope he does not play against us0
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That Jones is a great player - they should definitely get him - not that Posh troublemaker*Callumcafc said:Hull are considering a move for Jordan Jones and/or Maddison. They may not come in for MM if they can bring in Jones from Rangers.
*Never seen Jones, or heard of him for that matter8 -
So he went to Swansea at strait into the first team. Probably had more to do with playing with kids for 2 months and being kicked around the pitch as he was our only hope of anything happening on the pitch.muppetman said:
I have a theory about Gallagher and why he left.Swisdom said:
If Chelsea weren't on side with him moving he wouldn't have - but he did so they must have had some input. I also know he was pretty much in tears when he was leaving the training ground - he was happy here. I wish him well and vbelieve he is going to go on and have a great career and I place no blame whatsoever on ESI, CAFC or Conor.PragueAddick said:
I thought you were close to "the club"? If you are you'll know that Gallagher left because of his agent. Not "Chelsea", at least not Tore Andre Flo, running the rule over him at Sparrows Lane in December.Swisdom said:
Gallagher was, and is, a fantastic player. He came from nowhere and when that midfield was purring he was a big part of it. His last handful of games were a little disappointing though in honesty and maybe a 19 year old rookie isn't quite up to a dogfight at this stage of his career. Seems Chelsea thought that too. Besides we now have Doughty who, once he calms down and delivers accurately, will be a great asset to us.Lincsaddick said:
great post .. 2 things .. Gallagher the midfield mainstay back in the autumn has gone .. if Taylor scores a hat trick on Saturday and let's hope he does, that will be after 'the window' has closed and we will be left with what we have .. playing a devil's advocate role here b t w ((:>)Swisdom said:
Imagine we win on Saturday, Taylor plays and scores a goal.dajavouslagan said:Imagine the meltdown Saturday if we lose Tayler, no incomings & lose to Barnsley!Can’t understand why ESI rushed through this deal in time for the transfer window! Going to get pelters!!!!!
Glass half empty vs glass half full
Nobody has done much yet this window. We are so used to the "We need bodies" line being rolled out but the fact is the midfield is nearly back to the beginning of the season (you know - when we were playing very well) and the players should, theoretically, be less fatigued than many of our opposition.
Bonne will be fit soon, Hemed showed signs of being near to match fit last week, Aneke seems to have got fit and seemingly found some goalscoring boots whilst he was absent.
There is still 18 hours to go and I don't believe we won't sign anyone. Still very hopeful on Maddison. But the bottom line is our destiny is in our own hands. We have the players to stay up.
It's never easy being a Charlton fan, we all know that, but things ARE better than they were a couple of months ago and the future is, seemingly, bright. Just a slightly sticky patch to navigate at the moment
Saying that - Maddison is like Doughty on steroids so if we get him in too I'll be like a dog with two dicks.
No blame attaches to ESI or anyone at Charlton for this one.
Take a look at this interview with Gallagher in today's Guardian. Note that not a word, not a single word is there on why he moved from us to Swansea. Now ask yourself, isn't that a little odd? Well not if his agent arranged it or did most of the talking for him.
Agents are a necessary evil in this game and, sadly, some are more interested in themselves and not the player. An agent that puts the player first would be a cracking business model!! ;-)
In his last couple of games for us, he looked tired. He still gave his all but seemed slightly jaded.
I think Chelsea were protecting him, if they thought he needed a rest and was not given one because
he was integral to the team and covering for injured players, he might of got a serious (long term) injury.
LB said in the press conference he would be rested when other players returned, but I think Chelsea thought
that this was not happening quick enough.
He is their player and they are responsible for his well being, bearing in mind he probably will become a key
player for Chelsea and England.
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Were we not told it was his agent who requested the move and that Chelsea were content for him to stay before that?0
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Bowyer said at the start of the season that all we were interested in was avoiding relegation! We were never play-off candidates, despite our lofty position and the blind-exuberance of the message boards! On our day, and with lots of luck, we were able to beat Leeds and Brentford. We have battled to hold Forest, Fulham and WBA. We are not as good as any of them, even at our best!sirjohnhumphrey said:Matthews
Sollly
Pearce
Lockyer
Sarr
Purrington
Cullen
Pratley
Oztumer
Williams
Field
Green
Doughty
Morgan
Forster-Caskey
Taylor
BonneHemed
Davison
Aneke
Maddison would probably be a starter if added to the squad. If Clarke-Harris signs and is not a replacement for Taylor then he would probably move above Bonne and Hemed in the pecking order but would not start ahead of Taylor. Otherwise we are only really going to attract squad players.First game of the season we didn’t have Matthews, Oztumer or Hemed. We have lost Gallacher and Leko who we have replaced with Green. Therefore the make up of the squad is one who many, including Bowyer, we’re talking up as play off candidates. Then, of course injuries hit and we know what has happened.
Who apart from those I’ve mentioned is going to come in and improve the squad whilst also being willing to leave their current team for possible relegation?Unless we offer stupid money and stupid wages I think additions will be minimal and ESI aren’t going to do that. I think the hope of a host of signings is evaporating. But, these players are certainly good enough to keep us up.
This is going to be a big fight, and we need everyone to be onside with the club (management and owners) if we are to pull through this relegation battle whatever squad we end up with tomorrow night.6 -
Only 14 are fit enough to play a full game, including 2 kids that were on non league loans.sirjohnhumphrey said:Matthews
Sollly
Pearce
Lockyer
Sarr
Purrington
Cullen
Pratley
Oztumer
Williams
Field
Green
Doughty
Morgan
Forster-Caskey
Taylor
BonneHemed
Davison
Aneke
Maddison would probably be a starter if added to the squad. If Clarke-Harris signs and is not a replacement for Taylor then he would probably move above Bonne and Hemed in the pecking order but would not start ahead of Taylor. Otherwise we are only really going to attract squad players.First game of the season we didn’t have Matthews, Oztumer or Hemed. We have lost Gallacher and Leko who we have replaced with Green. Therefore the make up of the squad is one who many, including Bowyer, we’re talking up as play off candidates. Then, of course injuries hit and we know what has happened.
Who apart from those I’ve mentioned is going to come in and improve the squad whilst also being willing to leave their current team for possible relegation?Unless we offer stupid money and stupid wages I think additions will be minimal and ESI aren’t going to do that. I think the hope of a host of signings is evaporating. But, these players are certainly good enough to keep us up.2 -
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CHARLTON BID FOR PIRATES STRIKER
Charlton have tabled a bid of £1m for Bristol Rovers striker Jonson Clarke-Harris.
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No. That's poppycock. The Chelsea Youth manager is on record as saying he didn't want him playing with kids (due to our injury list), and that he would learn more being in the Chelski u23's if that was to be the case. Then they loaned him to Swansea...MuttleyCAFC said:Were we not told it was his agent who requested the move and that Chelsea were content for him to stay before that?0 -
Agreed, let's face it most years you get a small team promoted to the PL who have a great start, then start struggling in the autumn and either go down or stay up by the skin of their teethPedro45 said:
Bowyer said at the start of the season that all we were interested in was avoiding relegation! We were never play-off candidates, despite our lofty position and the blind-exuberance of the message boards! On our day, and with lots of luck, we were able to beat Leeds and Brentford. We have battled to hold Forest, Fulham and WBA. We are not as good as any of them, even at our best!sirjohnhumphrey said:Matthews
Sollly
Pearce
Lockyer
Sarr
Purrington
Cullen
Pratley
Oztumer
Williams
Field
Green
Doughty
Morgan
Forster-Caskey
Taylor
BonneHemed
Davison
Aneke
Maddison would probably be a starter if added to the squad. If Clarke-Harris signs and is not a replacement for Taylor then he would probably move above Bonne and Hemed in the pecking order but would not start ahead of Taylor. Otherwise we are only really going to attract squad players.First game of the season we didn’t have Matthews, Oztumer or Hemed. We have lost Gallacher and Leko who we have replaced with Green. Therefore the make up of the squad is one who many, including Bowyer, we’re talking up as play off candidates. Then, of course injuries hit and we know what has happened.
Who apart from those I’ve mentioned is going to come in and improve the squad whilst also being willing to leave their current team for possible relegation?Unless we offer stupid money and stupid wages I think additions will be minimal and ESI aren’t going to do that. I think the hope of a host of signings is evaporating. But, these players are certainly good enough to keep us up.
This is going to be a big fight, and we need everyone to be onside with the club (management and owners) if we are to pull through this relegation battle whatever squad we end up with tomorrow night.
Norwich beat Man City, how many people expect them to stay up now?0 -
Reckon we need a CH, CM, CF. If Taylor goes then 2 forwards
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Pedro45 said:
No. That's poppycock. The Chelsea Youth manager is on record as saying he didn't want him playing with kids (due to our injury list), and that he would learn more being in the Chelski u23's if that was to be the case. Then they loaned him to Swansea...MuttleyCAFC said:Were we not told it was his agent who requested the move and that Chelsea were content for him to stay before that?Pedro45 said:
No. That's poppycock. The Chelsea Youth manager is on record as saying he didn't want him playing with kids (due to our injury list), and that he would learn more being in the Chelski u23's if that was to be the case. Then they loaned him to Swansea...MuttleyCAFC said:Were we not told it was his agent who requested the move and that Chelsea were content for him to stay before that?
I've only seen that from a random chelsea fan account. Where is this on the record please?Pedro45 said:
No. That's poppycock. The Chelsea Youth manager is on record as saying he didn't want him playing with kids (due to our injury list), and that he would learn more being in the Chelski u23's if that was to be the case. Then they loaned him to Swansea...MuttleyCAFC said:Were we not told it was his agent who requested the move and that Chelsea were content for him to stay before that?1 -
Is he on record saying that? I thought that came from a non-official Chelsea fan Twitter account.Pedro45 said:
No. That's poppycock. The Chelsea Youth manager is on record as saying he didn't want him playing with kids (due to our injury list), and that he would learn more being in the Chelski u23's if that was to be the case. Then they loaned him to Swansea...MuttleyCAFC said:Were we not told it was his agent who requested the move and that Chelsea were content for him to stay before that?0 -
That is a very slow echoLoneRanger88 said:16:27CHARLTON BID FOR PIRATES STRIKER
Charlton have tabled a bid of £1m for Bristol Rovers striker Jonson Clarke-Harris.
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Take our midfield. If we speak to a player and he asks Bowyer that when/if Cullen, Pratley, Williams, Field, JFC, Oztumer, Green are all fit will he start, the likely answer is no. So why would he come?Covered End said:
Only 14 are fit enough to play a full game, including 2 kids that were on non league loans.sirjohnhumphrey said:Matthews
Sollly
Pearce
Lockyer
Sarr
Purrington
Cullen
Pratley
Oztumer
Williams
Field
Green
Doughty
Morgan
Forster-Caskey
Taylor
BonneHemed
Davison
Aneke
Maddison would probably be a starter if added to the squad. If Clarke-Harris signs and is not a replacement for Taylor then he would probably move above Bonne and Hemed in the pecking order but would not start ahead of Taylor. Otherwise we are only really going to attract squad players.First game of the season we didn’t have Matthews, Oztumer or Hemed. We have lost Gallacher and Leko who we have replaced with Green. Therefore the make up of the squad is one who many, including Bowyer, we’re talking up as play off candidates. Then, of course injuries hit and we know what has happened.
Who apart from those I’ve mentioned is going to come in and improve the squad whilst also being willing to leave their current team for possible relegation?Unless we offer stupid money and stupid wages I think additions will be minimal and ESI aren’t going to do that. I think the hope of a host of signings is evaporating. But, these players are certainly good enough to keep us up.0
