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  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,458
    edited February 2020
    Looking at the view from the photos in that Sky Sports link I can't see the changing of the shape of the seat helping. The problem isn't just the distance from the pitch, it's the crazy shallow rake on the seating that is the biggest problem and adding more seating behind the goal will just make that worse if anything. Even 20 or 30 rows back it appears you're so little elevated above the playing surface that the game must be virtually unwatchable when the action isn't on the very nearest part of the pitch.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,196
    edited February 2020
    Missed It said:
    Great. Are we all paying for that too?
    Indeed. Good question

    Thanks again for the heads'up @cafc999.

    This article indicates that it is not yet agreed, so there is time to get to the bottom of who's paying. I don't see any reason why the taxpayer should, but they've successfully palmed everything else off on us. 

    As far as the political landscape on this goes, the new CEO of E20 is easily the best it has had. Also on the London Assembly, the Boris fanboy and Stadium "legacy" protector Gareth Bacon, will presumably have to stand down now that he has been elected MP for Orpington. (heaven help Orpington). But if the Tories regain the Mayorship, I would worry that there will be new pressure to flog the Stadium off to the Dildo Bros.

    Either way, I don't think it will help the "atmosphere" much. (as @randy andy explains above) It's fundamentally not a football stadium. 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,393
    cafc999 said:
    I see that the seating is going to be reconfigured for next season. Would be interesting to see what @PragueAddick mates think of this
    remember old Wembley ? .. the terraces/seats behind the goals were a long way back
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,411
    cafc999 said:
    I see that the seating is going to be reconfigured for next season. Would be interesting to see what @PragueAddick mates think of this
    I believe that at the moment it is virtually impossible in the current configuration to get a good conga going or at least a rousing rendition of nees up muvver bran. Thankfully there has not been too much to celebrate on the pitch this season.
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,358
    Lincsaddick said:

    cafc999 said:
    I see that the seating is going to be reconfigured for next season. Would be interesting to see what @PragueAddick mates think of this
    remember old Wembley ? .. the terraces/seats behind the goals were a long way back
    Nothing compares with the away end at the old Brighton athletic track. 😩
  • Hornchurch
    Hornchurch Posts: 902
    Lincsaddick said:
    cafc999 said:
    I see that the seating is going to be reconfigured for next season. Would be interesting to see what @PragueAddick mates think of this
    remember old Wembley ? .. the terraces/seats behind the goals were a long way back
    Stamford Bridge was the same
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,172
    Travelled back to Hampshire on Saturday with a family of hammers, they are adamant with their fixtures, their going down. 
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Starinnaddick said:
    Lincsaddick said:

    cafc999 said:
    I see that the seating is going to be reconfigured for next season. Would be interesting to see what @PragueAddick mates think of this
    remember old Wembley ? .. the terraces/seats behind the goals were a long way back
    Nothing compares with the away end at the old Brighton athletic track. 😩
    I thought the Odsal Stadium was worse than that away end at Stamford Bridge.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,393
    Chippycafc said:
    Travelled back to Hampshire on Saturday with a family of hammers, they are adamant with their fixtures, their going down. 
    I'm guessing that the biggest problem , other than a daunting fixture list, is that the morale of the players is at zero, and Moyes, who should never have got the job in the first place has no idea how to buck them up ..  it is looking dire for the ammers
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,393
    Addickted said:
    Starinnaddick said:
    Lincsaddick said:

    cafc999 said:
    I see that the seating is going to be reconfigured for next season. Would be interesting to see what @PragueAddick mates think of this
    remember old Wembley ? .. the terraces/seats behind the goals were a long way back
    Nothing compares with the away end at the old Brighton athletic track. 😩
    I thought the Odsal Stadium was worse than that away end at Stamford Bridge.
    there certainly have beem some dire old shacks where we were confined to watch football

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  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,111
    You would say that home games against Villa and Watford in May will be massive, but it could be too late by then.


  • E_cafc
    E_cafc Posts: 2,617

    cafc999 said:
    I see that the seating is going to be reconfigured for next season. Would be interesting to see what @PragueAddick mates think of this
    remember old Wembley ? .. the terraces/seats behind the goals were a long way back
    Stamford Bridge was the same
    Bristol Rovers old ground Eastville was as well.  I think it was a speedway track as well. 
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,172
    Lincsaddick said:
    Chippycafc said:
    Travelled back to Hampshire on Saturday with a family of hammers, they are adamant with their fixtures, their going down. 
    I'm guessing that the biggest problem , other than a daunting fixture list, is that the morale of the players is at zero, and Moyes, who should never have got the job in the first place has no idea how to buck them up ..  it is looking dire for the ammers
    Good point... When I asked the same question about Moyes.....they just shook their heads and said no... But then they said they wanted Bowyer... 
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,172
    Re the seats... A few years ago I did a tour of the Allianz arena in munich... Its a must do for anyone visiting... The guide told me they increased the capacity of the stadium by about 6 or 8 k by moving each seat together by about 9 inches... You had a ton of room anyway, that including not being disturbed in your seat by someone wanting a pee.... 
    . 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,393
    Chippycafc said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    Chippycafc said:
    Travelled back to Hampshire on Saturday with a family of hammers, they are adamant with their fixtures, their going down. 
    I'm guessing that the biggest problem , other than a daunting fixture list, is that the morale of the players is at zero, and Moyes, who should never have got the job in the first place has no idea how to buck them up ..  it is looking dire for the ammers
    Good point... When I asked the same question about Moyes.....they just shook their heads and said no... But then they said they wanted Bowyer... 
    well .. they can't 'ave 'im
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,393
    Chippycafc said:
    Re the seats... A few years ago I did a tour of the Allianz arena in munich... Its a must do for anyone visiting... The guide told me they increased the capacity of the stadium by about 6 or 8 k by moving each seat together by about 9 inches... You had a ton of room anyway, that including not being disturbed in your seat by someone wanting a pee.... 
    . 
    one of the very best of the modern stadia as regards seating is Stadium MK
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,172
    Lincsaddick said:
    Chippycafc said:
    Re the seats... A few years ago I did a tour of the Allianz arena in munich... Its a must do for anyone visiting... The guide told me they increased the capacity of the stadium by about 6 or 8 k by moving each seat together by about 9 inches... You had a ton of room anyway, that including not being disturbed in your seat by someone wanting a pee.... 
    . 
    one of the very best of the modern stadia as regards seating is Stadium MK
    Agreed mate... Soft seats, excellent toilet facilities, access good both in and out... But OTT on parking £7 when I went to the cup game few years back. 
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Chippycafc said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    Chippycafc said:
    Re the seats... A few years ago I did a tour of the Allianz arena in munich... Its a must do for anyone visiting... The guide told me they increased the capacity of the stadium by about 6 or 8 k by moving each seat together by about 9 inches... You had a ton of room anyway, that including not being disturbed in your seat by someone wanting a pee.... 
    . 
    one of the very best of the modern stadia as regards seating is Stadium MK
    Agreed mate... Soft seats, excellent toilet facilities, access good both in and out... But OTT on parking £7 when I went to the cup game few years back. 
    You obviously haven't used a hospital car park recently.
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,172
    Addickted said:
    Chippycafc said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    Chippycafc said:
    Re the seats... A few years ago I did a tour of the Allianz arena in munich... Its a must do for anyone visiting... The guide told me they increased the capacity of the stadium by about 6 or 8 k by moving each seat together by about 9 inches... You had a ton of room anyway, that including not being disturbed in your seat by someone wanting a pee.... 
    . 
    one of the very best of the modern stadia as regards seating is Stadium MK
    Agreed mate... Soft seats, excellent toilet facilities, access good both in and out... But OTT on parking £7 when I went to the cup game few years back. 
    You obviously haven't used a hospital car park recently.
    Luckily no apart from drop off and pick up, but I have a bus that drops me outside... But at Basingstoke it's about £4 for 2 hours here. 
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,172
    Addickted said:
    Chippycafc said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    Chippycafc said:
    Re the seats... A few years ago I did a tour of the Allianz arena in munich... Its a must do for anyone visiting... The guide told me they increased the capacity of the stadium by about 6 or 8 k by moving each seat together by about 9 inches... You had a ton of room anyway, that including not being disturbed in your seat by someone wanting a pee.... 
    . 
    one of the very best of the modern stadia as regards seating is Stadium MK
    Agreed mate... Soft seats, excellent toilet facilities, access good both in and out... But OTT on parking £7 when I went to the cup game few years back. 
    You obviously haven't used a hospital car park recently.
    I may need to explain further the match day car parking on any day other than match day was free for 2/3 hours, on match day it changes an hour or two before kick off to stop people parking elsewhere around the complex. 

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  • GlassHalfFull
    GlassHalfFull Posts: 2,351

    They'd lose if they played their own reserves ....

  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Brighton & Hove Council- The Lanes parking charges.

    1 hour 2.00 
    2 hours 6.00 
    4 hours 14.00 
    9 hours 20.00 
    24 hours 32.00 
    Lost ticket 23.00 
    Weekend  - 1 hour 4.00 
    Weekend - 2 hours 8.00 
    4 hours 15.00 
    9 hours 20.00 
    Weekend - 24 hours
    Lost Ticket 25.00 
    Evenings 18.00 - 24.00 4.50 
    Night 24.00 – 11.00 5.00 
    Annual season ticket 2,500.00  
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,172
    edited February 2020
    Ffs... Please tell my Mrs those charges... Cos she always wants me to drive to Brighton rather than go by train. 
  • Raith_C_Chattonell
    Raith_C_Chattonell Posts: 5,711
    From today's Mirror.  Headline: Passion of Upton Park to a toxic, soulless bowl.  The fans were sold a dream by the Brady bunch but now it's a NIGHTMARE.

      
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,121
    Spent 214m on players in 4 seasons and they're in the relegation zone! You've got to laugh!
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,812
    edited February 2020
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Spent 214m on players in 4 seasons and they're in the relegation zone! You've got to laugh!
    When you look through their purchases in recent years there aren't many that you can say have been a roaring success.
    I wonder if Jarrod Bowen might prove to be another poor buy (I haven't really seen enough of him to be sure either way. Hasn't overly impressed me on the few occasions that I have seen him). 
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    I wonder how many West Ham 'fans' are taking advantage of our Football for a Fiver game?
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,393
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Spent 214m on players in 4 seasons and they're in the relegation zone! You've got to laugh!
    Fulham spent over £100 Million in one close season and went straight back down .. Villa spent over £100 Million last close season and they are in the relegation zone .. it ain't what you spend, it's how and on whom you spend it
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,904
    Addickted said:
    Brighton & Hove Council- The Lanes parking charges.

    1 hour 2.00 
    2 hours 6.00 
    4 hours 14.00 
    9 hours 20.00 
    24 hours 32.00 
    Lost ticket 23.00 
    Weekend  - 1 hour 4.00 
    Weekend - 2 hours 8.00 
    4 hours 15.00 
    9 hours 20.00 
    Weekend - 24 hours
    Lost Ticket 25.00 
    Evenings 18.00 - 24.00 4.50 
    Night 24.00 – 11.00 5.00 
    Annual season ticket 2,500.00  
    Such a charlton post. 
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,278
    superclive98 said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Spent 214m on players in 4 seasons and they're in the relegation zone! You've got to laugh!
    When you look through their purchases in recent years there aren't many that you can say have been a roaring success.
    I wonder if Jarrod Bowen might prove to be another poor buy (I haven't really seen enough of him to be sure either way. Hasn't overly impressed me on the few occasions that I have seen him). 
    Could end up similar to Jordan Hugill who they bought from Preston for £10m in 2018. He has played 3 games for them and been on loan at Middlesbrough and QPR the last two seasons. Premier clubs just hoovering up talent so that no one else can have them. 

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