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Cover to Cover: Love will tear us apart

Henry Irving
Henry Irving Posts: 85,222
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Shamelessly stolen from the Robert Elms show today.

It appears that a cover of this song appeared in the TV show "Normal People" and that prompted the Cover to Cover today on the Robert Elms show.

Normal rules, listen to both without prejudice and say which you prefer. No other versions considered.

First the 1980 Joy Division original

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuuObGsB0No

Then the 2007 cover used in the TV show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ_Rz49imWw
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  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,820
    JD
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,741
    In this instance I don't need to listen.........Joy Division.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,222
    SuedeAdidas said:
    In this instance I don't need to listen.........Joy Division.
    I did listen to both and thought the same as I did in 1980 ie what a terrible dirge this is and what a terrible singer.

    NP for me.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    Oh dear @Henry Irving, no accounting for taste and generally your taste in music seems pretty good but to not like Joy Division 😱. 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,728
    Both are great in my opinion, but will side with JD just as it's the original and has always been one of my favourites.
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 11,677
    Interesting cover version.

    Still, Joy Division wins by the length of Hangar Straight.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Joy Division for me. 

    At a tangent isn't 2007 about the time it became a popular football/cricket song?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    The NP cover is pleasant, but lacks emotion

    Joy Division were a great band, but I'm not a great fan of Ian Curtis's signing. Atmosphere is a great song and track for example, but I don't like Curtis's vocals
  • johnny73
    johnny73 Posts: 4,567
    Joy Division. Easy.
  • acidlee
    acidlee Posts: 49
    JD All day long love that tune.
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  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,024
    Easiest C2C ever. A truly great original version versus a woman on a piano auditioning for the next Waitrose xmas ad. The real contest should have been Joy Division versus Yat Kha, the result would have been the same, but the ride would have been more interesting.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I like the drama of the piano on the cover version, but the original is my preference.

  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,258
    Sorry Henry, no other versions considered fair enough but can I suggest people listen to the Swans versions. Red is best but black is pretty good as well. As to this thread Joy Division of course 👍
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    I heard the other version on Normal People and thought it was quite good.
    It was good enough for me to Shazam it and see who it was.
    But Love will Tear Us Apart by Joy Division is an all time classic for anyone with music taste and so it wins by a country mile.
    Strangely, I was only listening to it about an hour ago.
    RIP Ian Curtis.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    There can be only one version. Nothing else comes close. As a pp said, her version sounds like a xmas ad for Waitrose.
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    The lady has a nice voice, but her piano is void of any life. Joy Division a clear winner for me.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,222
    Unsurprising response but the new version won on Radio London which did shock me.

    Great chorus but on the original the drum sound is horrible, the singers voice is buried in the mix, not that I like his voice, and you can't hear the words.

    And the cover really isn't Waitrose Xmas.  There's more to it than that. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,222
    PS and the name Joy Division is very dodgy too.
  • Shrew
    Shrew Posts: 5,749
    JD by a country mile, I know ..no other versions considered.... but the alternative on this thread is more like a bad version of Susanna and the Magical Orchestra's cover which is quite excellent.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,002
    This is not even a contest ... Joy Division without a doubt. 
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  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,024
    Henry Irving said:
    Unsurprising response but the new version won on Radio London which did shock me.

    Great chorus but on the original the drum sound is horrible, the singers voice is buried in the mix, not that I like his voice, and you can't hear the words.

    And the cover really isn't Waitrose Xmas.  There's more to it than that. 
    Lidl?
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,258
    Henry Irving said:
    PS and the name Joy Division is very dodgy too.
    Maybe they chose that name to shock, that's what youngsters do :smile: like the ex royal bloke dressing in an SS uniform for a party. Having said that I doubt the general public had the faintest idea on Joy Division
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,716
    Joy Division 
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,087
    charltonbob said:
    Henry Irving said:
    PS and the name Joy Division is very dodgy too.
    Maybe they chose that name to shock, that's what youngsters do :smile: like the ex royal bloke dressing in an SS uniform for a party. Having said that I doubt the general public had the faintest idea on Joy Division
    They used to attract a dodgy crowd, likewise when they were called Warsaw. 

    Another vote for Joy Division, seems only the OP doesn't like them.
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,783
    Friend Or Defoe said:
    charltonbob said:
    Henry Irving said:
    PS and the name Joy Division is very dodgy too.
    Maybe they chose that name to shock, that's what youngsters do :smile: like the ex royal bloke dressing in an SS uniform for a party. Having said that I doubt the general public had the faintest idea on Joy Division
    They used to attract a dodgy crowd, likewise when they were called Warsaw. 

    Another vote for Joy Division, seems only the OP doesn't like them.
    Not Joy Division for me. I think it’s dreadful.
    Ive always found music snobs get really aggressively upset when someone says they don’t like this song. “You don’t have any taste” “You don’t know music” etc. Piss off. I have my own opinion. I’ve never seen what’s supposed to be so good about it. There’s some interesting stuff in there, but it’s overshadowed by the dreary singing and other noises. Maybe I’m not appreciating some subtle nuances, but I don’t care, I still think it’s shit. And I’m pretty sure a lot of people think it’s good because they think they ‘should’ think it’s good.

    Having said all that, if you like it - good for you.
    😎👍🏼
  • KettsJohn
    KettsJohn Posts: 1,210
    Joy Division
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,258
    edited May 2020
    lordromford said:
    Friend Or Defoe said:
    charltonbob said:
    Henry Irving said:
    PS and the name Joy Division is very dodgy too.
    Maybe they chose that name to shock, that's what youngsters do :smile: like the ex royal bloke dressing in an SS uniform for a party. Having said that I doubt the general public had the faintest idea on Joy Division
    They used to attract a dodgy crowd, likewise when they were called Warsaw. 

    Another vote for Joy Division, seems only the OP doesn't like them.
    Not Joy Division for me. I think it’s dreadful.
    Ive always found music snobs get really aggressively upset when someone says they don’t like this song. “You don’t have any taste” “You don’t know music” etc. Piss off. I have my own opinion. I’ve never seen what’s supposed to be so good about it. There’s some interesting stuff in there, but it’s overshadowed by the dreary singing and other noises. Maybe I’m not appreciating some subtle nuances, but I don’t care, I still think it’s shit. And I’m pretty sure a lot of people think it’s good because they think they ‘should’ think it’s good.

    Having said all that, if you like it - good for you.
    😎👍🏼
    Dreary singing ? Well the bloke suffered from severe epilepsy & in turn terrible depression because of his illness & managed to take his own life at the third attempt. It may go some way to explain why he wasn't the life & soul of the party & caused him to sound "dreary". Music was a get out for him until it all became too much. First time I heard LWTUA I knew nothing of this< just thought it sounded brilliant & wanted more so bought either Closer or Unknown pleasures can't remember which but bought the other one soon after. I wasn't disappointed.

    End of the day as you say if you like it good for you. We all have our own taste wouldn't life be bloody boring if we all liked the same thing :-)
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,783
    charltonbob said:
    lordromford said:
    Friend Or Defoe said:
    charltonbob said:
    Henry Irving said:
    PS and the name Joy Division is very dodgy too.
    Maybe they chose that name to shock, that's what youngsters do :smile: like the ex royal bloke dressing in an SS uniform for a party. Having said that I doubt the general public had the faintest idea on Joy Division
    They used to attract a dodgy crowd, likewise when they were called Warsaw. 

    Another vote for Joy Division, seems only the OP doesn't like them.
    Not Joy Division for me. I think it’s dreadful.
    Ive always found music snobs get really aggressively upset when someone says they don’t like this song. “You don’t have any taste” “You don’t know music” etc. Piss off. I have my own opinion. I’ve never seen what’s supposed to be so good about it. There’s some interesting stuff in there, but it’s overshadowed by the dreary singing and other noises. Maybe I’m not appreciating some subtle nuances, but I don’t care, I still think it’s shit. And I’m pretty sure a lot of people think it’s good because they think they ‘should’ think it’s good.

    Having said all that, if you like it - good for you.
    😎👍🏼
    Dreary singing ? Well the bloke suffered from severe epilepsy & in turn terrible depression because of his illness & managed to take his own life at the third attempt. It may go some way to explain why he wasn't the life & soul of the party & caused him to sound "dreary". Music was a get out for him until it all became too much. First time I heard LWTUA I knew nothing of this< just thought it sounded brilliant & wanted more so bought either Closer or Unknown pleasures can't remember which but bought the other one soon after. I wasn't disappointed.
    Yeah, dreary.
    His story is sad, no doubt. But that doesn’t make his singing better.

    In my opinion of course. You’re entitled to yours too.
  • church-lane
    church-lane Posts: 935
    Joy Division all day long. One of my top 10 favourite songs and one if my favourite bands. The NP version is incredibly dreary in my opinion but then I really do hate these cover versions that are slowed to a crawl, sung by a female singer, accompanied only by a piano or guitar.  Do something original for crying out loud.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,222
    So I think Joy Division just about edged that vote.

    Next up Led Zeppelin v Rolf Harris doing Stairway to Heaven 🤔

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